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^why did you ever follow her in the first place then?
On July 30 2012 20:53 DwD wrote: Bah I feel so conflicted. Soyeon my #1 easy. I wanna support her still but fucking CCM and KKS >< I honestly think after all I've seen with Soyeon how she acts and behaves etc that she is above all this shit. There is no way in my mind that Soyeon is a spiteful bitch that would go out of her way to bully a member of her own group, especially since she is now the leader of T-ara. I can def see Boram and Jiyeon being at the forefront of the hate towards Hwayoung. Boram getting even less spotlight(not like she had much in the first place but still) and Jiyeon having to fight for the cute maeknae role. That's the bias talking.
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On July 30 2012 20:59 DystopiaX wrote:^why did you ever follow her in the first place then? Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 20:53 DwD wrote: Bah I feel so conflicted. Soyeon my #1 easy. I wanna support her still but fucking CCM and KKS >< I honestly think after all I've seen with Soyeon how she acts and behaves etc that she is above all this shit. There is no way in my mind that Soyeon is a spiteful bitch that would go out of her way to bully a member of her own group, especially since she is now the leader of T-ara. I can def see Boram and Jiyeon being at the forefront of the hate towards Hwayoung. Boram getting even less spotlight(not like she had much in the first place but still) and Jiyeon having to fight for the cute maeknae role. That's the bias talking. On the off chance that she posted selca with a member I actually cared about.
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I don't follow kidols on twitter so the few times I checked out her page it was either food or just her, meh.
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That's all she posted really. Looking back I can see why now huehue
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Drama <3 They really fucked this up. I kind of wanna know all the ins and outs now though.
And as some people already said, this stuff makes really curious as to how groups relationships actually are off camera. Seems to be really tough to be an outcast, you're basicly with eachother 24/7. Especially when they act really friendly on camera and you're just being ignored/bullied off camera. Would be pretty bad if there's a lot more of this stuff going on. Though I don't really see it happening that easily except for when members get added to an already established group, which was the case here.
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On the global image of Korea; I know that many people don't even know that Samsung is Korean, and as a little kid of 10 or 11, watching the Australian Open Tennis Finals, the VP of the Hyundai Motor Car Company came out at the trophy presentation and I remember being surprised that he was Korean, because before then, Hyundai was just some dodgy foreign car manufacturer, whereas Sony was obviously Japanese and Nike and McDonald's were American.
tl;dr I do agree that large Korean companies, either by choice or chance, are not identified as Korean, rather just as 'asian' or 'foreign' in the Western World
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Whoa, it really moved fast today. Anyone have a summary of the 412 posts I missed? :O
Just looked up T-ara, and Hwayoung left is that the only big event that happened?
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On July 30 2012 21:15 Aerisky wrote:Whoa, it really moved fast today. Anyone have a summary of the 412 posts I missed? :O Just looked up T-ara, and Hwayoung left ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) is that the only big event that happened? yeah. That's the source of all the posts.
Kimoleon posted another GsD podcast transcript that you may wanna check out, it was recently relinked.
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not even Asian, everything is Chinese.
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On July 30 2012 21:16 Kipsate wrote: not even Asian, everything is Chinese. People know japanese shit though, so the electronics and shit are all thought to be Japanese companies.
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On July 30 2012 21:16 DystopiaX wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 21:15 Aerisky wrote:Whoa, it really moved fast today. Anyone have a summary of the 412 posts I missed? :O Just looked up T-ara, and Hwayoung left ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) is that the only big event that happened? yeah. That's the source of all the posts. Kimoleon posted another GsD podcast transcript that you may wanna check out, it was recently relinked. Oh, thanks >.<
I'm a bit sad to see her go but at least T-ara is now fewer a member and maybe later Dani will leave.
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Ok now I'm finally caught up on everything I think. Wow. It all has snowballed so fast, it takes my breath away. Who knows what the real truth is but it sounds like things were pretty ugly. Can't help but feel sorry for Hwayoung if half of this stuff is true. Gotta take a lot of the gloss off t-ara too. I know I for one while I'll always love their music won't be able to not think about this drama when listening to them in future.
Wow.
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On July 30 2012 21:30 Aerisky wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 21:16 DystopiaX wrote:On July 30 2012 21:15 Aerisky wrote:Whoa, it really moved fast today. Anyone have a summary of the 412 posts I missed? :O Just looked up T-ara, and Hwayoung left ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) is that the only big event that happened? yeah. That's the source of all the posts. Kimoleon posted another GsD podcast transcript that you may wanna check out, it was recently relinked. Oh, thanks >.< I'm a bit sad to see her go but at least T-ara is now fewer a member and maybe later Dani will leave. I am sure Dani will leave, Just two years of bullying are needed for that to happen.
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On July 30 2012 21:42 Sh1bby wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 21:30 Aerisky wrote:On July 30 2012 21:16 DystopiaX wrote:On July 30 2012 21:15 Aerisky wrote:Whoa, it really moved fast today. Anyone have a summary of the 412 posts I missed? :O Just looked up T-ara, and Hwayoung left ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) is that the only big event that happened? yeah. That's the source of all the posts. Kimoleon posted another GsD podcast transcript that you may wanna check out, it was recently relinked. Oh, thanks >.< I'm a bit sad to see her go but at least T-ara is now fewer a member and maybe later Dani will leave. I am sure Dani will leave, Just two years of bullying are needed for that to happen. She doesn't even know Korean, it would take longer than that.
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On July 30 2012 22:04 gullberg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 30 2012 21:42 Sh1bby wrote:On July 30 2012 21:30 Aerisky wrote:On July 30 2012 21:16 DystopiaX wrote:On July 30 2012 21:15 Aerisky wrote:Whoa, it really moved fast today. Anyone have a summary of the 412 posts I missed? :O Just looked up T-ara, and Hwayoung left ![](/mirror/smilies/frown.gif) is that the only big event that happened? yeah. That's the source of all the posts. Kimoleon posted another GsD podcast transcript that you may wanna check out, it was recently relinked. Oh, thanks >.< I'm a bit sad to see her go but at least T-ara is now fewer a member and maybe later Dani will leave. I am sure Dani will leave, Just two years of bullying are needed for that to happen. She doesn't even know Korean, it would take longer than that. LOL that potshot :D
If there somehow is actual bullying going on, I'm honestly surprised Dani isn't getting bullied...must be sort of hard for her not even understanding Korean, and I doubt the other members have particularly good English.
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Hey guys,
Just wanted to share a gem from long ago.
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Also, anyone know any good sources for this style of music?
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I am surprised people are bewildered over the T-ara drama. Music industry in general has always been a cut throat industry. The Korean music industry probably hardest industries to survive in. An idol's prime is much like an athletes, they will do everything they can to survive or gain one up over potential rivals. I would consider this an ocupational hazard especially if you are content in being placed in an idol group. Theres probably darker, dirtier drama material but rarely they'll be publicsized because under confucian societies whistle blowing is of rare occurance.
Reminds me of the korean actor who suicided in an attempt to convict high ranking entertainment officials that was sexually profiting from trainees.
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On July 30 2012 22:16 essencez wrote: I am surprised people are bewildered over the T-ara drama. Music industry in general has always been a cut throat industry. The Korean music industry probably hardest industries to survive in. An idol's prime is much like an athletes, they will do everything they can to survive or gain one up over potential rivals. I would consider this an ocupational hazard especially if you are content in being placed in an idol group. Theres probably darker, dirtier drama material but rarely they'll be publicsized because under confucian societies whistle blowing is of rare occurance.
Reminds me of the korean actor who suicided in an attempt to convict high ranking entertainment officials that was sexually profiting from trainees. The surprise comes from the fact that the Kidols, more than maybe almost any other artist, portray themselves as generally nice and innocent. Even "sexy" groups and performers like HyunA are extremely tame compared to Jidols or American pop artists, and things that anyone wouldn't get offended at IRL are huge slights if done by a kidol. So seeing a group allegedly do something as cruel as bullying and isolating a fellow member shatters that whole image.
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Good riddance, Hwayoung. Your efforts nipple will never be forgotten. May your breasts stay bouncy and your nipples free.
I'm bewildered by the fact that people seem to believe that the personas idols put on in variety shows are their actual personalities.
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so, tl;dr the one that got her tits out is gone? Fascinating
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