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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 13:49:59
July 30 2012 13:48 GMT
#67301
On July 30 2012 22:21 klogg wrote:
Good riddance, Hwayoung. Your efforts nipple will never be forgotten.
May your breasts stay bouncy and your nipples free.


I'm bewildered by the fact that people seem to believe that the personas idols put on in variety shows are their actual personalities.

I don't think Dystopia necessarily subscribes to the view you may or may not be ascribing to him. He was just saying that in general such a stark discrepancy from kidiols' supposed personalities across the board is obviously going to be quite shocking to a lot of people. And it's true that kidiols in general consistently seem far nicer and benign than their japanese/American etc counterparts.
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
namste
Profile Joined October 2010
Finland2292 Posts
July 30 2012 13:49 GMT
#67302
Bit sad to see Hwayoung go, she wasn't the most useless in the group. They could do some more clean up as well.
IM hwaitiing ~ IMMvp #1 | Bang Min Ah <3<3
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 15:05:43
July 30 2012 13:50 GMT
#67303
I've liked T-ara for their songs... but this incident is just kind of a culmination of all the shady and dark sides of the group. We had that big scandal with Jiyeon's self-cam clip that somehow got hushed and muddled over, there's been posts showing Hyomin as a member of organized female high school gangs / related activities, various clips showing deliberate neglect and ignorance from the group towards Hwayoung, and now here it is finally! Interestingly enough, there's been a few blog posts (some on Fomos too, haha) showing "proofs" of the members collectively ostracizing Hwayoung and sadly, I have to say that most of those look legit enough to believe.
+ Show Spoiler +
http://micon.miclub.com/board/viewArticle.do?artiNo=95651409
http://blog.naver.com/sexysonsu?Redirect=Log&logNo=80165531468


Additionally, from what I've been reading around, the main T-ara fancafe is crumbling apart and large groups are already petitioning for boycotts and whatnot. Once the fans are gone, it's over. I hope the best for Hwayoung.
[TLMS] REBOOT
KroplaBeskidu
Profile Joined June 2011
1093 Posts
July 30 2012 13:57 GMT
#67304
Seriously this time, there's only one lesson in all this, let the people in the group decide the roster.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 30 2012 14:14 GMT
#67305
Wow, like 15 pages to wake up to. This is way more drama than it really needs to be -.-

Also real funny to see all these random accounts come out of the woodwork and post on this. I guess regular KMD not exciting enough for them, or people busting out the alts to post opinions
It's your boy Guzma!
Trasko
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Sweden983 Posts
July 30 2012 14:18 GMT
#67306
Gangnam Style!
Jaedong <3
Mayd
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland251 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 14:22:43
July 30 2012 14:22 GMT
#67307
Hwayoung's Twitter account up by over 100k followers since yesterday. ^^
유리 | 티파니 | 리지
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
July 30 2012 14:25 GMT
#67308
On July 30 2012 22:21 klogg wrote:
I'm bewildered by the fact that people seem to believe that the personas idols put on in variety shows are their actual personalities.

I don't think a single person has said anything like that. (except maybe dwd lol). But you really shouldn't be. Almost every interaction you make IRL is not so far away from scripted personalities anyway.
We always base our opinions of people on, surprise, everything we know about them. In the case of idols, it's their crafted TV personas. That doesn't mean we're always so far off the mark.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
July 30 2012 14:26 GMT
#67309
On July 30 2012 23:22 Mayd wrote:
Hwayoung's Twitter account up by over 100k followers since yesterday. ^^

And T-jinyo is now up to 180k+ members. It was 20k+ 7 hours ago.

http://cafe.naver.com/taracafestory
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 14:29:19
July 30 2012 14:29 GMT
#67310
On July 30 2012 23:26 NicksonReyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 23:22 Mayd wrote:
Hwayoung's Twitter account up by over 100k followers since yesterday. ^^

And T-jinyo is now up to 180k+ members. It was 20k+ 7 hours ago.

http://cafe.naver.com/taracafestory

lol, i can't help but have this weird feeling that maybe this is all some sort of publicity stunt.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
July 30 2012 14:29 GMT
#67311
On July 30 2012 23:25 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 22:21 klogg wrote:
I'm bewildered by the fact that people seem to believe that the personas idols put on in variety shows are their actual personalities.

I don't think a single person has said anything like that. (except maybe dwd lol). But you really shouldn't be. Almost every interaction you make IRL is not so far away from scripted personalities anyway.
We always base our opinions of people on, surprise, everything we know about them. In the case of idols, it's their crafted TV personas. That doesn't mean we're always so far off the mark.

I think there are some that are pretty close to what you see on the reality/variety shows. Sure, they cut out cussing or lambasting about strong opinions, but I'm sure there are at least a couple idols that are genuinely what they appear to be. Not many, but some.
It's your boy Guzma!
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 30 2012 14:31 GMT
#67312
On July 30 2012 23:29 Cubu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 23:26 NicksonReyes wrote:
On July 30 2012 23:22 Mayd wrote:
Hwayoung's Twitter account up by over 100k followers since yesterday. ^^

And T-jinyo is now up to 180k+ members. It was 20k+ 7 hours ago.

http://cafe.naver.com/taracafestory

lol, i can't help but have this weird feeling that maybe this is all some sort of publicity stunt.

all of a sudden they'll announce that this was all a troll to make people turn their eyes away from Dani
NicksonReyes
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Philippines4431 Posts
July 30 2012 14:34 GMT
#67313
On July 30 2012 23:31 HaXXspetten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 23:29 Cubu wrote:
On July 30 2012 23:26 NicksonReyes wrote:
On July 30 2012 23:22 Mayd wrote:
Hwayoung's Twitter account up by over 100k followers since yesterday. ^^

And T-jinyo is now up to 180k+ members. It was 20k+ 7 hours ago.

http://cafe.naver.com/taracafestory

lol, i can't help but have this weird feeling that maybe this is all some sort of publicity stunt.

all of a sudden they'll announce that this was all a troll to make people turn their eyes away from Dani

I thought Dani's only purpose was to make people turn their eyes away from Ahreum. Distraction-ception.
"Start yo" -FlaSh
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 14:42:42
July 30 2012 14:39 GMT
#67314
On July 30 2012 23:29 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 23:25 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On July 30 2012 22:21 klogg wrote:
I'm bewildered by the fact that people seem to believe that the personas idols put on in variety shows are their actual personalities.

I don't think a single person has said anything like that. (except maybe dwd lol). But you really shouldn't be. Almost every interaction you make IRL is not so far away from scripted personalities anyway.
We always base our opinions of people on, surprise, everything we know about them. In the case of idols, it's their crafted TV personas. That doesn't mean we're always so far off the mark.

I think there are some that are pretty close to what you see on the reality/variety shows. Sure, they cut out cussing or lambasting about strong opinions, but I'm sure there are at least a couple idols that are genuinely what they appear to be. Not many, but some.

I'm not saying any of them are genuine, but no one is 100% genuine anyway. I'm just so sick of the
"Oh wow, you actually believe anything about how the idol acts on TV? So naive condescend*condescend*condescend."
The fact that we are able to make personal judgement calls on seeing through these personas is the single most important driving force behind the concept of biases.
I mean, stuff like this
On July 30 2012 20:53 DwD wrote:
Bah I feel so conflicted. Soyeon my #1 easy. I wanna support her still but fucking CCM and KKS >< I honestly think after all I've seen with Soyeon how she acts and behaves etc that she is above all this shit. There is no way in my mind that Soyeon is a spiteful bitch that would go out of her way to bully a member of her own group, especially since she is now the leader of T-ara. I can def see Boram and Jiyeon being at the forefront of the hate towards Hwayoung. Boram getting even less spotlight(not like she had much in the first place but still) and Jiyeon having to fight for the cute maeknae role.

is borderline, yea. Even I admit that I could possibly see Taeyeon being a bitch to some other people/members. But that's to be expected really, we've all been hateful at one point or another.
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
Sh1bby
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany711 Posts
July 30 2012 14:39 GMT
#67315
I was really curious, who's the #1 poster in KMD...Congrats Dystopia. Wasn't even close.

+ Show Spoiler [Top100 from page 1 to 3364] +
[image loading]

Complete list: https://rapidshare.com/files/3067343723/KMD_Posts.xls
"People should not ruminate about the past. Just do your best here and now." [Aya Kito]
Xenocide_Knight
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Korea (South)2625 Posts
July 30 2012 14:45 GMT
#67316
On July 30 2012 23:39 Sh1bby wrote:
I was really curious, who's the #1 poster in KMD...Congrats Dystopia. Wasn't even close.

+ Show Spoiler [Top100 from page 1 to 3364] +
[image loading]

Complete list: https://rapidshare.com/files/3067343723/KMD_Posts.xls

Wow, how did you do that? You should do one from page 1 to around 1700 and one from 1700 to now. To see the evolution of posters. Or maybe in quarters?
Shine[Kal] #1 fan
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 14:47:48
July 30 2012 14:45 GMT
#67317
On July 30 2012 23:39 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 23:29 Requizen wrote:
On July 30 2012 23:25 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
On July 30 2012 22:21 klogg wrote:
I'm bewildered by the fact that people seem to believe that the personas idols put on in variety shows are their actual personalities.

I don't think a single person has said anything like that. (except maybe dwd lol). But you really shouldn't be. Almost every interaction you make IRL is not so far away from scripted personalities anyway.
We always base our opinions of people on, surprise, everything we know about them. In the case of idols, it's their crafted TV personas. That doesn't mean we're always so far off the mark.

I think there are some that are pretty close to what you see on the reality/variety shows. Sure, they cut out cussing or lambasting about strong opinions, but I'm sure there are at least a couple idols that are genuinely what they appear to be. Not many, but some.

I'm not saying any of them are genuine, but no one is 100% genuine anyway. I'm just so sick of the
"Oh wow, you actually believe anything about how the idol acts on TV? So naive condescend*condescend*condescend."
The fact that we are able to make personal judgement calls on seeing through these personas is the single most important driving force behind the concept of biases.

I agree. It might show a bit of naivete on my part, but one of the reasons Tiffany is my personal bias is less about her presence and time on camera (though those are great as well), but I like reading up on some of her background stories, which seem pretty damn genuine. I'm sure she's changed quite a bit since being in the limelight for so long, but those stories are at least nice in their own way.

Edit: as I'm pretty new in posting here, I'm surprised I even rank on that list. Probably speaks badly about how much time I spend on this website.
It's your boy Guzma!
Purpl3
Profile Joined January 2011
United States1067 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-30 14:52:39
July 30 2012 14:48 GMT
#67318
@Sh1bby How the hell did you find that out? Top 20. I'll take it.
HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
July 30 2012 14:50 GMT
#67319
On July 30 2012 23:45 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 30 2012 23:39 Sh1bby wrote:
I was really curious, who's the #1 poster in KMD...Congrats Dystopia. Wasn't even close.

+ Show Spoiler [Top100 from page 1 to 3364] +
[image loading]

Complete list: https://rapidshare.com/files/3067343723/KMD_Posts.xls

Wow, how did you do that? You should do one from page 1 to around 1700 and one from 1700 to now. To see the evolution of posters. Or maybe in quarters?

Dystopia u crazy


I wanna see an average post count per day since his/her first post in the thread
Kaiwa
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Netherlands2209 Posts
July 30 2012 14:52 GMT
#67320
I assume it's just a little script that downloaded every single page and did some xpath / regex matching extracting the usernames and adding some numbers together. Not that hard to do.

Fun list. Top #22 baby!
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