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Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 20:49:20
July 11 2012 20:46 GMT
#63081
So someone asked for more Miss A...
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“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
Sableyeah
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands2119 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 20:50:11
July 11 2012 20:46 GMT
#63082
On July 12 2012 01:36 ShmeeZZy wrote:
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Need some KMD help. My clan's website got wiped a few weeks ago and we are in the process of recreating the forum from scratch. This means that a nice, nowhere near as nice as KMD, kpop thread got destroyed. I am trying to create a new one from scratch. My next planned post is for Miss A. I am looking for a nice group picture and maybe a gif or two to add to it. I was also unsure as to what song I should use as their intro into the thread song. I have it narrowed down to 4 songs.
Poll: What Miss A song should I use?

Bad Girl Good Girl (22)
 
54%

Love Alone (11)
 
27%

Breathe (5)
 
12%

Touch (3)
 
7%

41 total votes

Your vote: What Miss A song should I use?

(Vote): Breathe
(Vote): Love Alone
(Vote): Bad Girl Good Girl
(Vote): Touch



My personal bias is to go with Love Alone but it's in English so idk if that would be a good idea for an intro.

My clan's kpop thread
If you guys are looking for a clan, we are always recruiting for a variety of games. Could also use some help with the thread =)


Lips imo

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BoA | Sunny | HyunA | ChoA | Hyemi // Preoccupied with a single leaf, you won't see the tree. Preoccupied with a single tree and you will miss the entire f0rest - Takuan Soho
TunaBarrett
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden1045 Posts
July 11 2012 20:48 GMT
#63083
On July 12 2012 04:34 firehand101 wrote:
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On July 11 2012 23:09 GTR wrote:
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i really love this graph so much, It shows the progression of the korean wave and how much effort korea is putting into the industry today...so when all the pessimists keep on saying 'bla bla they are never going to make it in the west bla bla' I know the statistics are there to show times are only improving.......so suck !


I think its more interesting that its completely stagnant for the last year, probably doesnt mean anything but still..

Also, any of those miss a songs works, all gewd. And go ahead and dare take some that they didnt promote, lots of good stuff there too!
ShmeeZZy
Profile Joined January 2012
United States254 Posts
July 11 2012 20:50 GMT
#63084
I like Lips and pretty much everything Miss A has put out. I wanted to go with something more popular for the intial post. Thanks for the help guys!
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 20:56:33
July 11 2012 20:52 GMT
#63085
Why are IU fans reposting the same content every day?

Actually I just saw the Miss A thing. Why are we reposting everything every day? Honestly half of those pics come up on the first page of a google search anyway, it's fucking annoying. Too bad the "no reposting without reason" rule isn't being enforced anymore.

On July 12 2012 00:53 sc2superfan101 wrote:
3) that means the thread will be ~8,664 pages by july 12, 2013, with ~173,280 posts

considering the fact that the thread started july 19, 2009 (hmm epic coincidence), that means it grew at a rate of about 1,000 pages per year, 20,000 posts per year. that means this thread will have experienced a 500% increase in posting volume. (i think, don't flame me, i'm fucking exhausted).

That growth means nothing and isn't sustainable though because most of it came at the release of SC2 when most of us here found TL. That same thing ain't gonna happen again until SC3 which as we all know is more than a decade out. When I joined in late 2010 we were around or just under (I forget) the 1000 page mark, and somewhere around a year and a half later it's grown by 2000 pages. It'll likely continue at this rate (but not increase) for awhile, then SC2 will start to die out and some of you motherfuckers will start leaving.


On July 12 2012 02:16 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
So I'm curious

What would you do IF you were walking down the street and coincidentally, you saw a group of people start to freak out and spazz like the above video. You go over to see wtf is going and your favorite idol is walking out of whatever building. Clearly not dressed for an official broadcast. Would you take this once in a lifetime opportunity and run alongside them like the above girls?

Because realistically, you will never ever get the chance to be that close to them or be able to speak to them off-air. Since those other fans are already spazzing out, would you say "fuck it" and join? I assume in that situation you don't have the option of formally greeting them and acting in a calm and orderly fashion. I mean you could but you wouldn't get close nor would you get noticed.

No I might join in long enough enough to get a picture and leave, but unless there's a chance that I could say hi or get an autograph or something there's no point in staying and watching an idol walk down the street or shop or whatever.

On July 12 2012 04:34 firehand101 wrote:
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On July 11 2012 23:09 GTR wrote:
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i really love this graph so much, It shows the progression of the korean wave and how much effort korea is putting into the industry today...so when all the pessimists keep on saying 'bla bla they are never going to make it in the west bla bla' I know the statistics are there to show times are only improving.......so suck !

So having 60 groups that no one will ever hear about instead of 5 somehow means that the industry is growing? More like there are a bunch of opportunists smelling money and failing dismally to grab any of it. There's honestly no change in the amount of actually popular/successful idols since the past, think about the past 1-2 years, how many groups have come out that people actually remember? Off the top of my head I can think of A Pink, Dal Shabet, Chi Chi, Hello Venus, and that's it. 4 groups (I know I'm missing some) from 2011 on that are actually notable/have done something. I'll be generous and add Ailee there even though she's not even in a group. So make that 5 acts that have made it big in the past year and a half.

That doesn't mean the industry is being successful, it means that it's just more bloated than before.

Also whoever asked about the 2000 trainees or something it's actually still much smaller than that, since most companies outside the big 3 have half or more of their members as former trainees (rejects or left or whatever) of a big 3 company. So it's not like there's more talent, just that trainees cut from the big 3 are finding 2nd chances in smaller companies.

Also went to page 1000 and conveniently found this gem on the top:


On December 26 2010 01:05 Craton wrote:
Christmas-Themed Page 1000 Topper
SHINee + Kara
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Kara
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2PM - Last Christmas
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WG + SUJU + SNSD + Big Bang
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Big Bang + SUJU
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SNSD
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Maya & V.A. - Miracle Of Christmas
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Miscellaenous
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T-ara - Bo Peep
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T-ara - Yayaya
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4Minute (Feat. Mario & Amen) - Jingle Jingle
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After School - Love Love Love
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Girl's Day - All I Want For Christmas Is You
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IU + Davichi + Lyn + Jisun + J-Lim - All I Want For Christmas Is You
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IU - Merry Christmas In Advance
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IU + Jeoungyup - God Bless Christmas
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This is some good shit Cratonz, much appreciated. Now watching Christmas vids in the middle of July.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
July 11 2012 20:53 GMT
#63086
Okay guys.......okay okay.....

I need to ask a question....does anyone follow kpop for the quality of music (alone) ?

Because throughout the whole world, there is definitely better sounding music. Kpop is about the stars that create the music and their personalities....that is the main focus of Kpop.

That is how I view it anyway, is there anyone here for the music alone, regardless of group?
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Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
July 11 2012 20:55 GMT
#63087
On July 12 2012 05:53 firehand101 wrote:
Okay guys.......okay okay.....

I need to ask a question....does anyone follow kpop for the quality of music (alone) ?

Because throughout the whole world, there is definitely better sounding music. Kpop is about the stars that create the music and their personalities....that is the main focus of Kpop.

That is how I view it anyway, is there anyone here for the music alone, regardless of group?

I enjoy the music more then anything, the idols are just a bonus.
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 21:09:28
July 11 2012 20:56 GMT
#63088
Warning: people not interested in reading my answer to the previous questions regarding me (the ones I quoted below) should skip this post entirely. Have a nice day.

On July 11 2012 19:10 Kuja wrote:
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On July 11 2012 19:03 HaXXspetten wrote:
On July 11 2012 19:00 Surrealistic wrote:
On July 11 2012 18:46 Zocat wrote:
On July 11 2012 18:02 HaXXspetten wrote:
@TuElite you should try writing romance novels with a heroine based on you-know-who, I'm sure you'd do great


Mary Sue characters normally dont make for a good / interesting story.
And you-know-who would definitely be one when TuElite's the writer.

Oh, he who must not be named?

If Nicole turned out to be a he, we'd read about a tragic suicide in Quebec in the morning newspaper.

Or about a crazy quebec man who changed gender.


Interesting. I like the way you think.

On July 11 2012 19:14 Kuja wrote:
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On July 11 2012 19:12 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Don't need anything so drastic, I don't think he'd hesitate to go gay

Going gay for nikiori? even if she was a he if she kept that body ... hell I'd be gay.


My answers will be assuming that she keeps the same body maybe with the addition of a penis but no other physical changes. Though the possibilities of further changes might also be explored in a way...

On July 11 2012 19:15 HaXXspetten wrote:

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On July 11 2012 19:12 Xenocide_Knight wrote:
Don't need anything so drastic, I don't think he'd hesitate to go gay

Gonna need some questioning first hand on this one


Well this is both quite disturbing and interesting at the same time.

As a background to this question, I am obviously hetero-sexual. I have never once questioned my sexuality nor ever considered anything out of it.

Now In order to answer said question, I think I must first take some time to examine my current situation/feelings towards Nicole as I know her to be. Female...

The other day, I met a fellow KPop enthusiast on Last.FM, upon seeing the 4 GIFs of Nicole on my profile page as well as KARA ranked being second as my all time most played artists he asked me if I liked Nicole (we have a detective on our hands). I said yes that I quite liked her. Her asked why did I like her ? I proceeded to give a brief yet accurate description of why and he came back to me telling me that that sounded more like lust than actual love.

Since then, I've been questioning wether what I feel for her is lust or love. I don't know. Maybe it's because I don't master the English language and don't have much experience with the word lust and it's signification (there's really nothing like it in french). But I do not know.

I naturally brought up the Wikipedia definition of both lust and love.

Lust:
Lust is an emotion or feeling of intense desire in the body. The lust can take any form such as the lust for knowledge, the lust for sex or the lust for power. It can take such mundane forms as the lust for food as distinct from the need for food. Lust is a powerful psychic force producing intense wanting for an object, or circumstance fulfilling the emotion.[


Ok so yes, I strongly desire her body, that's pretty much a given. I also seem to "lust for knowledge" because I'd really like to get to know her on a personal level and in a way that's knowledge. An intense want is pretty accurate.

Before reading that description of lust I always pictured that word and emotion as purely sexual/physical. What I feel for Nicole is more than that and therefore I did not consider it lust before. Now I'm unsure.

Love:
Love is an emotion of a strong affection and personal attachment.


Ok, well... I do have a strong affection and personal attachment....

As previously stated, I used to think lust was a purely sexual thing and therefore, something that would be impossible for me to feel with someone of the same sex. (Or at least something that I have not yet experienced in my life.)

So for now, I guess I'll go with love to describe this one way relationship.

Now I believe that if someone was to love someone (feel for that person in ways more than just sexual and physical) of what's believed to be the opposite sex to later find out that the person is of the same sex that the love would remain. The lust pr physical attraction might deteriorate but the love for the person and that person's personality or character will remain.

Therefore is Nicole was somehow to be a man, based on what I just said, I think my opinion of her wouldn't change at all, I'd still love her and desire her.

Would I actually have a sex change in order to fulfill her (or his?) fictional requirements in that case ? I don't know, that would depend on the situation. I'm not a doctor so first up I'd have to know if a sex change is something that can be undone or done again in order to go back to the original sex and everything that it implies physically. The context would also be very important, for example, if I was to be in a relationship with Nicole, as a regular couple and one day she'd tell me that she'd like me to change sex to appeal to her more and be more pleasurable to her I would consider it a lot more seriously than just doing that operation just to have a shot with her. You know. The answer to the "just to have a shot" scenario would probably be no.

Not that I mind a sex change I mean why not, could be fun, could be a cool experience (especially if I'm able to go back after). But the consequences of it, I'm still heterosexual (outside of if Nicole turns out to be a man... Wait a second, that no longer makes me heterosexual does it ? hhhmmmm)... But if I don't score Nicole than finding a nice lesbian that'd be interested in the now hybrid that I would be would be quite the challenge. Note that however, it could allow me to score a reality TV deal or something and make some money the easy way, lol.

And the "if I already was with Nicole scenario" would 100% be an immediate yes if I can later on go back and have the operation undone or done again. If I can't go back to being a male, I think I'd still might do it for her but it would require a lot more thoughts and discussions with her so it would probably go down to 70% chance possibility of happening.

I hope I've given you a satisfactory answer.

On July 12 2012 00:29 dbg wrote:
i see some tuelite in her tbh


Nope, I'm very introspective somewhat anti-social individual, I would never actually "scream" at her or any KARA members nor would I follow them as previously stated during a previous discussion on this matter.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 21:00:49
July 11 2012 21:00 GMT
#63089
On July 12 2012 05:55 Kuja wrote:
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On July 12 2012 05:53 firehand101 wrote:
Okay guys.......okay okay.....

I need to ask a question....does anyone follow kpop for the quality of music (alone) ?

Because throughout the whole world, there is definitely better sounding music. Kpop is about the stars that create the music and their personalities....that is the main focus of Kpop.

That is how I view it anyway, is there anyone here for the music alone, regardless of group?

I enjoy the music more then anything, the idols are just a bonus.


Okay, that is a bit wierd....i think i might start a poll

Poll: What is the main reason you follow Kpop?

Quality of Music (42)
 
70%

Artists and their personalities (17)
 
28%

The Community aspect of Kpop (1)
 
2%

60 total votes

Your vote: What is the main reason you follow Kpop?

(Vote): Quality of Music
(Vote): Artists and their personalities
(Vote): The Community aspect of Kpop


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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 11 2012 21:00 GMT
#63090
On July 12 2012 05:53 firehand101 wrote:
Okay guys.......okay okay.....

I need to ask a question....does anyone follow kpop for the quality of music (alone) ?

Because throughout the whole world, there is definitely better sounding music. Kpop is about the stars that create the music and their personalities....that is the main focus of Kpop.

That is how I view it anyway, is there anyone here for the music alone, regardless of group?

Music first, hot girls second.

Otherwise I'd just start the race queens thread and post pics of hot girls in skimpy outfits all day.
TuElite
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada2123 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 21:04:57
July 11 2012 21:04 GMT
#63091
I got in due to Nicole so (artists and their personalities).
I later on at some point learned to appreciate the music and enjoyed it. (So it became both for the artists and music almost equally.)
Right now I'm kind of in a down KPop phase, I'm not really feeling it these days, I don't really listen to much KPop at all so I'd say i definitely went back to only being in it for the artists and their personalities.
I suspect this might change again multiple times according to current moods and whatnot.
Always Smile - Jung Nicole - Follow Nicole on Twitter @_911007 and me @TuElite
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
July 11 2012 21:05 GMT
#63092
On July 12 2012 06:04 TuElite wrote:
I got in due to Nicole so (artists and their personalities).
I later on at some point learned to appreciate the music and enjoyed it. (So it became both for the artists and music almost equally.)
Right now I'm kind of in a down KPop phase, I'm not really feeling it these days, I don't really listen to much KPop at all so I'd say i definitely went back to only being in it for the artists and their personalities.
I suspect this might change again multiple times according to current moods and whatnot.


you have it perfect man. Kpop is about the people first, music second. Everyone please bear with me while i try to find a vid to support it
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Mayd
Profile Joined August 2011
Finland251 Posts
July 11 2012 21:08 GMT
#63093
Korean girls.... are just too perfect. I can't stand it anymore. I have to fly to Seoul immediately. ASAFAD
유리 | 티파니 | 리지
Vorgrim
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (North)1601 Posts
July 11 2012 21:09 GMT
#63094
I just like the sound of the Korean language. Doesn't even have to be singing or accompanied by music.
hyszlan
Profile Joined September 2011
Sweden100 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 21:12:14
July 11 2012 21:10 GMT
#63095
Definitely the music, but I have to admit that I got into it for other reasons at start.

But then when it comes to make it in the "western world" as u mentioned along with ur graph, I think we all know that its not only the music that makes it happening. You have the image, personalities, looks, talent, promotions, passion?! and more that makes a kpop group what it is today. With that in mind I personally don't think that many of the recent debuts have pulled it of so far, but don't get me wrong, I would love to be proven otherwise.
소녀시대♥ / taeyeon & fany nr1 / master z @hyszlan.460 ~
{ToT}ColmA
Profile Joined November 2007
Japan3260 Posts
July 11 2012 21:14 GMT
#63096
thanks for the miss a pics, currently one of my favourite kpop to listen to while being infront the pc, dont even know their names, mostly listening to the music
The only virgins in kpop left are the fans
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 11 2012 21:14 GMT
#63097
On July 12 2012 06:05 firehand101 wrote:
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On July 12 2012 06:04 TuElite wrote:
I got in due to Nicole so (artists and their personalities).
I later on at some point learned to appreciate the music and enjoyed it. (So it became both for the artists and music almost equally.)
Right now I'm kind of in a down KPop phase, I'm not really feeling it these days, I don't really listen to much KPop at all so I'd say i definitely went back to only being in it for the artists and their personalities.
I suspect this might change again multiple times according to current moods and whatnot.


you have it perfect man. Kpop is about the people first, music second. Everyone please bear with me while i try to find a vid to support it

The reason I won't ever get into it because of personality is because their personality is 100% crafted anyway. You're not ever gonna see what the idols are really like so there's no point.
firehand101
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3152 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-07-11 21:22:42
July 11 2012 21:18 GMT
#63098
Found it!



Some documentary on a random kpop star, no biggie+ Show Spoiler +
OMG RAIIIIIIIN
I do recommend watching the whole series if you have time, but that's for another day....This is part 5, and I would love if everyone could watch between 1 minute to 3:05....where it ends with JYP's quote:

'the product is not the music, it's the human being...we're creating stars, not music'

This perfectly encapsulates what I view Kpop as, and what the people at the top think also. After the music collapse of the digital generation, Kpop has exploded because they have learnt to market the stars...the track can hardly even matter. So, to all you 2NE1 haters or any big group hater, if you are still bewildered at how many views they get and records they break, it is because Kpop is not about music first, it is about the star

PS: that is why I value Kpop over any other music to this present day: while every other country is butt hurt and crying on the floor, Korea has found a way to use the digital revolution to their advantage, and flourish in what others see as a shrinking industry

TLDR: so to all you fans who are in it purely for the music...there is nothing wrong with that at all! The tracks coming out of Korea are quite catchy All I'm trying to say is that Kpop as a whole puts the star first...because this is how they have survived the digital generation
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DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
July 11 2012 21:21 GMT
#63099
On July 12 2012 06:18 firehand101 wrote:
After the music collapse of the digital generation, Kpop has exploded because they have learnt to market the stars...the track can hardly even matter.

PS: that is why I value Kpop over any other music to this present day: while every other country is butt hurt and crying on the floor, Korea has found a way to use the digital revolution to their advantage, and flourish in what others see as a shrinking industry

This is actually all false. Perpetuated by the media and sometimes by record companies (hoping to win anti-piracy victories). Apparently the sales of music have all been increasing and steadily increasing.

And stop using the popularity=music is good argument. You've used it for the past 2 days but it doesn't mean shit.
Waywatcher
Profile Joined April 2012
Netherlands205 Posts
July 11 2012 21:21 GMT
#63100
On July 12 2012 06:09 Vorgrim wrote:
I just like the sound of the Korean language. Doesn't even have to be singing or accompanied by music.


That is a bit the same for me to, I like korean music like epik high, younha leessang etc because of the music and the sound of the korean language. I listen to Kpop mainly because of the artists. Doesnt listen to much kpop only watch the video´s and sometimes while gaming or studying, because it keeps me energetic. I listen more to european/american music, but not much pop.
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