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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
February 01 2010 03:17 GMT
#1581
On February 01 2010 08:55 LunarDestiny wrote:
ten year later, we will remember avatar as a bad film with the same old plot.


pretty sure it will be remembered as a revolutionary film

but we'll see in 10 years won't we
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 01 2010 03:18 GMT
#1582
On February 01 2010 12:16 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2010 08:57 jalstar wrote:
On February 01 2010 08:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:

that review's pretty awful

I think there was a logical fallacy in that every 10 seconds


avatar supporters never use logical fallacies, also avatar is the best movie ever because it made the most money


avatar critics never use logical fallacies, also avatar is a terrible movie because it is the same as dances with wolves


criticizing something for being unoriginal isn't a logical fallacy.

and redlettermedia didn't say the movie was terrible, watch all the way to the conclusion
TealLurker
Profile Joined June 2008
United States791 Posts
February 01 2010 03:19 GMT
#1583
On February 01 2010 06:59 inReacH wrote:
Might have been posted already..


Haha! That's fuckin awesome! I loved his Phantom Menace review. Can't wait for the Attack of the Clones review.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
February 01 2010 04:02 GMT
#1584
On February 01 2010 12:18 jalstar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2010 12:16 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On February 01 2010 08:57 jalstar wrote:
On February 01 2010 08:36 GGTeMpLaR wrote:

that review's pretty awful

I think there was a logical fallacy in that every 10 seconds


avatar supporters never use logical fallacies, also avatar is the best movie ever because it made the most money


avatar critics never use logical fallacies, also avatar is a terrible movie because it is the same as dances with wolves


criticizing something for being unoriginal isn't a logical fallacy.

and redlettermedia didn't say the movie was terrible, watch all the way to the conclusion


believing a movie is terrible if it isn't original is a logical fallacy

I never said it was the best movie ever because it made a lot of money, watch all the way to the conclusion.
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 01 2010 04:12 GMT
#1585
The difference is that no one is saying that Avatar is terrible solely because it's unoriginal. In fact, the reviewer kind of liked parts of Avatar.

On the other hand, I've seen plenty of "avatar is the highest-grossing movie ever so it's the best" which is a logical fallacy, argumentum ad populum.
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
February 01 2010 04:20 GMT
#1586
On February 01 2010 06:59 inReacH wrote:
Might have been posted already..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJarz7BYnHA


lol i liked that haha prety funny
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
February 01 2010 04:24 GMT
#1587
On February 01 2010 13:12 jalstar wrote:
The difference is that no one is saying that Avatar is terrible solely because it's unoriginal. In fact, the reviewer kind of liked parts of Avatar.

On the other hand, I've seen plenty of "avatar is the highest-grossing movie ever so it's the best" which is a logical fallacy, argumentum ad populum.


I want to tell you I've seen people claiming the former, but there's no way I'm going through this giant thread to dig for quotes.

There's fallacies on both sides, and there's genuine praises/criticisms on both sides as well.
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-02-01 04:35:32
February 01 2010 04:33 GMT
#1588
If you judge best as "film that the most people in our era liked", then yes highest grossing international would be a strong indicator.

Now if you want "film that you liked the best" then you might need different barometers. And just cause I know someones going to bring it up yes I said of our era. There are a huge number of factors that are different from modern filmmaking/viewing and gone with the wind flimmaking/viewing.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
StorkHwaiting
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States3465 Posts
February 01 2010 04:51 GMT
#1589
On February 01 2010 13:33 Archerofaiur wrote:
If you judge best as "film that the most people in our era liked", then yes highest grossing international would be a strong indicator.

Now if you want "film that you liked the best" then you might need different barometers. And just cause I know someones going to bring it up yes I said of our era. There are a huge number of factors that are different from modern filmmaking/viewing and gone with the wind flimmaking/viewing.


It's not the highest in sales when adjusted for inflation. It's not even in the top 10. So....
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 01 2010 04:56 GMT
#1590
On February 01 2010 13:33 Archerofaiur wrote:
If you judge best as "film that the most people in our era liked", then yes highest grossing international would be a strong indicator.

Now if you want "film that you liked the best" then you might need different barometers. And just cause I know someones going to bring it up yes I said of our era. There are a huge number of factors that are different from modern filmmaking/viewing and gone with the wind flimmaking/viewing.


how much people liked something isn't a measure of quality in the first place.

and box-office gross isn't even a measure of how much people liked it, it's not like you only pay if you liked the movie
Archerofaiur
Profile Joined August 2008
United States4101 Posts
February 01 2010 05:03 GMT
#1591
On February 01 2010 13:51 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2010 13:33 Archerofaiur wrote:
If you judge best as "film that the most people in our era liked", then yes highest grossing international would be a strong indicator.

Now if you want "film that you liked the best" then you might need different barometers. And just cause I know someones going to bring it up yes I said of our era. There are a huge number of factors that are different from modern filmmaking/viewing and gone with the wind flimmaking/viewing.


It's not the highest in sales when adjusted for inflation. It's not even in the top 10. So....


I dont think you read my post.
http://sclegacy.com/news/28-scl/250-starcraftlegacy-macro-theorycrafting-contest-winners
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 01 2010 06:16 GMT
#1592
was intense. its a movie.
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
ShcShc
Profile Joined October 2006
Canada912 Posts
February 01 2010 10:25 GMT
#1593
It hit the 2 billion $ mark.
God DAJNFBGHSfIDSHUKLFHSGUIO! -Jinro
SilverSkyLark
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Philippines8437 Posts
February 01 2010 10:28 GMT
#1594
Don't forget inflation..
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WeSt
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Portugal918 Posts
February 01 2010 10:42 GMT
#1595
Horrible movie. I want my money back! WHERE'S MY FUCKING MONEY? GIVE IT BACK!
zvz is imba
BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
February 01 2010 10:43 GMT
#1596
On February 01 2010 19:28 SilverSkyLark wrote:
Don't forget inflation..

Who cares? I sure don't.

All that matters is whether or not you enjoyed it.

+ Show Spoiler +
I did.
Sun Tzu once said, "Defiler becomes useless at the presences of a vessel."
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
February 01 2010 16:11 GMT
#1597
On February 01 2010 19:42 WeSt wrote:
Horrible movie. I want my money back! WHERE'S MY FUCKING MONEY? GIVE IT BACK!


better yet, give me all 2 billion, it'll go towards a good cause
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 18 2010 01:21 GMT
#1598

"Jim's going to write a novel himself, based on Avatar," Landau revealed to MTV, saying that Cameron's vision of the book "is a big, epic, story that fills in a lot of things that we won't have time to do in the movie; maybe even in sequels."


http://oscars.movies.yahoo.com/blog/45-cameron-penning-avatar-prequel

Move over Harry Potter?

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
March 03 2010 18:45 GMT
#1599
Bumping this due to an article that is up on Kotaku:


Avatar, the biggest grossing film ever, looks familiar, says Square Enix's Motomu Toriyama, director of Final Fantasy XIII. A little too familiar.

"The in-game universe this time around is quite fantasy based, but also futuristic at the same time," Toriyama told website Tech Digest in a recent interview. "We never really had any particular reference points for Final Fantasy XIII, in terms of places where we drew inspiration from. That said, we're a little suspicious that the world famous Avatar movie might have take inspiration from us!"


I'm sure he was joking.

http://kotaku.com/5482463/square-enix-suspicious-that-avatar-was-influenced-by-final-fantasy-xiii
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
NeSeNVi
Profile Joined August 2008
67 Posts
April 12 2010 19:38 GMT
#1600
I came,
I saw,
I fell in love.
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