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Braavos36400 Posts
yes its cliched, predictable, etc, but still enjoyable. movie made you really feel for the characters, and thats difficult when they are fully animated trying to look real (different than like a disney character that doesnt intend to be real). visuals, very good, story, not very original, but overall experience was well worth it | ||
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
Let me try to put it this way - There are dozens of people I've spoken to who would rather live on Pandora than Earth. They just mention this in the first 5 minutes of talking about the movie. You might be like, "Of course they do, it's different." Do you know how hard it is to create something that feels sustainable, alive, and more important - REAL? This movie sucks you in hardcore to the world. The story was just a commentary on society, but you can tell Cameron wrote this story thinking of how people "should be" versus how they are. It's like he was screaming - "STOP - look at the world around you.. you don't understand it.. stop destroying it." The unobtainium was obviously on purpose. Cameron commenting on how we're always striving for something we can't have and also making parallels to every war ever. I agree that the characters were cliche, but come on - if that is the worst thing you can say about a movie then you're stretching to find faults. I was smiling when good things happened to Jake and it didn't make be burst into tears when the tree died, but I was pretty sad about it. I cheered when Tsu'tek sliced the fuck out of the guys on the giant star destroyer chopper. Edit: I gotta say I thought this movie could have been 20-30 minutes longer. It felt like there was much more background to explore with the Nav'i and the final fight seemed a little rushed with all the stories to close up. I'm hoping the trilogy doesn't take 10 years to come out. This was a 10/10 movie for me, people need to let go and just enjoy it.. you gotta skate. | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
On December 21 2009 22:34 Fzero wrote: I agree that the characters were cliche, but come on - if that is the worst thing you can say about a movie then you're stretching to find faults. How is it stretching to find faults? Isnt predicatabiliy, cliche characters and shit dialogue enough? Its like saying some1 who doesnt like a car because the engine sucks is "stretching to find faults". Not a whole lot of stretching was required. And again, I still think the movie is worth watching, I'm just a bit puzzled how people can overlook the faults, altho in the end all the more power to them because if it makes them enjoy the movie more then there's nothing wrong with it. | ||
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aseq
Netherlands4000 Posts
Also, can hype influence your rating of a movie? Technically, you should just rate the movie quality by itself, but I know it matters a great deal. If a movie promises everything (and I believe it) and delivers barely that, it still feels like a 7/10. It's like watching Pavarotti vs. Paul Potts, the latter caused much more of a stir.. | ||
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Fzero
United States1503 Posts
On December 21 2009 22:48 Promises wrote: How is it stretching to find faults? Isnt predicatabiliy, cliche characters and shit dialogue enough? Its like saying some1 who doesnt like a car because the engine sucks is "stretching to find faults". Not a whole lot of stretching was required. And again, I still think the movie is worth watching, I'm just a bit puzzled how people can overlook the faults, altho in the end all the more power to them because if it makes them enjoy the movie more then there's nothing wrong with it. Why do you HAVE to be thrown for a loop? If every story you ever read is only good based on surprise, then isn't surprise no longer a surprise? If you're watching a horror film, are you really scared when some shit jumps into frame? It's supposed to "surprise" you but you know its coming from the visual cues, the melodrama, the audio track. Sometimes you can just accept the story for being a platform to deliver something beautiful. As for shit dialogue, I didn't really cringe much at all in this movie. I thought the general dude was a direct play off Apocolypse Now's "I love the smell of napalm in the morning". They explained the "I see you" stuff in the movie - it fits with the theme of the Nav'i. If you don't like it because you wouldn't say it.. well, I don't know what to say to that. I'm not saying there was NOTHING wrong with the movie, but 7/10? Honestly, I can't think of more than 5 other movies that I enjoyed more than this one for the sheer scale, beauty, and setting of the film. If you're comparing the movie to Dune - shit, Dune is in my top 5 fantasy series. I'll take that. | ||
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Promises
Netherlands1821 Posts
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On December 21 2009 15:07 yesplz wrote: I need to watch this movie high. I feel like it would change my life lol it crossed my mind too, we probably end up thinking we are oversized blue smurfs, smurfing away inside a console virtual world | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
On December 21 2009 09:22 SuperJongMan wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i35.tinypic.com/sor6sj.jpg) + REAL 3D = AVATAR yup, no joking aside this movie reminds me in a odd way of Tarantino who rips a little bit off from everyone in all his movies. I was an avid sci fi reader for many years and this movie takes themes and ideas from too many sci-fi authors to go into detail - and I know many sci-fi readers will recognize them instantly too - it worked for me though, it just kept reminding of the many good books and stories I had read before, leaving me with a warm fuzzy feeling in my stomach I didn't really stay for the credits but I hope he credited those whom stories or themes were taken from, cause if they weren't I know there will be many authors frowning. | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32139 Posts
On December 21 2009 23:43 Physician wrote: yup, no joking aside this movie reminds me in a odd way of Tarantino who rips a little bit off from everyone in all his movies. I was an avid sci fi reader for many years and this movie takes themes and ideas from too many sci-fi authors to go into detail - and I know many sci-fi readers will recognize them instantly too - it worked for me though, it just kept reminding of the many good books and stories I had read before, leaving me with a warm fuzzy feeling in my stomach I didn't really stay for the credits but I hope he credited those whom stories or themes were taken from, cause if they weren't I know there will be many authors frowning. You do realize that pretty much every single author in every single genre borrows elements from pretty much every other author/director before them? In almost every single novel or movie, the basic story framework is probably the same one you've seen a million times but with some variable changes | ||
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
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BeefyEnchilada
United States50 Posts
On December 21 2009 23:32 Physician wrote: lol it crossed my mind too, we probably end up thinking we are oversized blue smurfs, smurfing away inside a console virtual world DO IT. I had 3 large bowls of pineapple express RIGHT before going to see it, literally one of the most beautiful experiences of my life. I was slackjawed throughout, very nearly weeping at the beauty a few times. Honestly, I'm not sure I can watch normal movies anymore. It was so pretty, and the 3d had me actually feeling the plants and stuff. Normal movies seem so.... bland, now. | ||
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Burned Toast
Canada2040 Posts
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snowbird
Germany2044 Posts
Unfortunately everything else about the movie totally sucked. But it was still worth the experience. 6/10 That Duke Nukem guy was hilarious :D | ||
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BanZu
United States3329 Posts
Or just high expectations, I don't know. -_- | ||
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3 Lions
United States3705 Posts
On December 22 2009 06:49 Burned Toast wrote: Am I the only one that was hoping those Naa'vi flying crap would stack and attack like mutas till the end? + Show Spoiler + I was kinda pissed the Na'vi didn't flank. I mean how do you stop a Terran push without flanking. Went and braved the snow yesterday to see it w/ friends and I definitely thought it was worth it. You HAVE TO see it in 3D though. HAVE TO. One of the best movies I've ever seen. | ||
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fAnTaCy
United States893 Posts
On December 22 2009 00:20 Hawk wrote: You do realize that pretty much every single author in every single genre borrows elements from pretty much every other author/director before them? In almost every single novel or movie, the basic story framework is probably the same one you've seen a million times but with some variable changes Hawk speaks truth. I actually hate people who criticize for the story line saying "oh it's been done before". Every idea in every movie we've seen has been done before many times. There are no original ideas anymore, and people just need to accept that fact and enjoy the movie for what it is...it'll be that much better if you do. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
This movie was balls to the wall incredible. I'm going to see it like 3 times before its out of theaters. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
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fAnTaCy
United States893 Posts
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