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triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
March 16 2011 04:52 GMT
#17301
On March 16 2011 13:08 Pfhor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 05:19 Ecael wrote:
Madoka delayed for sure, will be streamed on nico.


huh? That's not what it says here.

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=288544

Show nested quote +
MBS has announced that the episode 11 of Mahou Shoujo Madoka★Magica will be aired on March 17th as scheduled.

You sure it isn't cancelled? It's grayed out on their schedule: http://www.mbs.jp/pgm/timetable/#hour24
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 05:04:04
March 16 2011 04:52 GMT
#17302
On March 16 2011 10:42 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 10:14 Lucumo wrote:
On March 15 2011 15:16 evantrees wrote:
been watching infinite ryvius with my sister and am enjoying it, feels partly like
a smaller scale macross. Anyone know of any similar series.

Mugen no Ryvius has a different focus but it's still better than any Macross series.

Anyway, finished Zeta Gundam and it was disappointing. The characters and their conversations are still horrible and there is even more romantic stuff in it. Jerid loves woman A, then she dies and immediately afterwards, he loves woman B. Same with Mirai who married Bright and got two children or Kamille in the movies etc etc. Honestly, the relationships are just such a joke. Watching the shows for the Gundams is pretty much the only thing you can do.
Also, why are there two new little kids onboard the ship? What is the purpose of them, other than being annoying.

Started with ZZ right after I finished the movies but I decided, after episode 3, that I will watch another series in between which will hopefully make me somewhat happier. And so far, it did. I really liked One Outs and Akagi seems to be pretty similar. The character design is "weird", but it's fine, it's not a significant part of an anime anyway. And the end of episode 4 was soo good. Really makes me wish that more anime had such a main character.

Akagi was pretty good, but they dragged the Washizu arc out for so long that it actually got kinda boring by the end. You should also give Kaiji a try once you finish Akagi. It's from the same mangaka, and the atmosphere is very similar. I personally liked Kaiji better since it was easier to empathize with the main character, but both series are good in their own right.

Yeah, I know about that anime, watched episode 1 back in the days(when it was released). But since I heard that there will be a sequel, I have to wait until this one is done and watch them both together. For the main character...I couldn't ask for a better one. That much calculation(when he gets beaten up), that's just what I like.
Well, we will see after I finished it.

On March 16 2011 10:49 Sentenal wrote:
I think I'm just going to not comment about the Zeta Gundam stuff, other than say that I strongly disagree with your views on it. Other than those 2 kids onboard existed just to be annoying. I suppose you just have your own tastes, even if they seem crazy to me.

Also, if a godly show like Zeta Gundam disappointed you, IDK what you are going to think about ZZ Gundam... lol

As long as you don't tell me that those kinda "relationships" are normal, it's fine. And lol @Jerid, after he killed Kamille's mother. Acting like a retard and then crying after he loses some person he just got to know. And what's up with the "corrections"? Everyone gets slapped like...all the time. And everyone disobeys the "rules", moving out in their mobile suits whenever they want it. Or what's with all the eavesdropping? Can't they act normally and don't do that all the time? The Kamille<->Fa conversations are probably the most ridiculous ones, shouting at each other all the time, just like in the original Gundam.

It's probably fine when you watch it as a kid. But as a normal human being, it's not. And I'm at least not the only one who thinks that way.
The general storyline and the mobile suits are good though.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 16 2011 05:30 GMT
#17303
The Bright-Slapping was one of the best parts about Zeta, people like Kamille and Katz needed a good beat down every so often. Everyone getting slapped all the time was a result of the organization the AEUG was.

AEUG wasn't a strict military unit, so the people making up organization often wouldn't give a shit about the rules. And because of this, the people in charge had to lay the smack down on people. They essentially would recruit anyone who would be willing got fight, soldier or otherwise. Its really apparent in ZZ Gundam with Judau and his friends making a mockery of everything Kamille did (although Judau doesn't tolerate the slapping, and Bright gets a chicken on his head).

Alot of the conversations and stuff you are complaining about is mostly a result of Tomino's directing style. I've noticed that characters rarely "talk to themselves", so to speak, in shows he does. Or you know, where the character talks in their head about stuff, telling their thoughts. Because of that, nearly everything that goes on inside the character's head is a mystery to the viewer, and it has to be shown via dialogue. For better or worse. I didn't mind it. People can't hear what other people are thinking anyway, and his style just tries to capture that.

I don't remember anything sticking out about eavesdropping, but you have to remember, the ships aren't THAT big, and most of the ships are the Mobile Suit Hangars.

It's probably fine when you watch it as a kid. But as a normal human being, it's not. And I'm at least not the only one who thinks that way.

I don't know what you mean by this, but I can assure you that Zeta Gundam is one of the most celebrated Gundam shows of all time, and people love it to this day. Giving benefit of the doubt right now, that you mean that the different relationships are fine for a kid, but not "normal human beings", rather than the show overall not being okay for normal people.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
March 16 2011 05:43 GMT
#17304
Madoka delayed.



http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=288544&show=0
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 06:12:39
March 16 2011 06:09 GMT
#17305
You mean when Wong literally beat Kamille up? Like...kicking him when he was on the ground? I'm sure such things help a lot. Emma got slapped as well, Katz got slapped but he did the same stuff in later episodes(moving out without any order). And sometimes the reason behind it was just ridiculous, like: "I can easily control the Zeta Gundam even though I don't know anything about it, I will just do it even though it belongs to Kamille". Why would anyone do such a thing? Especially when there is a battle of life and death out there. I also refuse to believe that such a slap helps in "correcting" them. Katz proved so and it's the same in real life. You just can't beat someone who is 14-20 and hope to change him/her. You do that either when the person is pretty young, or you don't do it at all.

Well, I will see how ZZ goes, will continue tomorrow or something, after I finished Kanagi.

Still, why do people act that way then? You normally don't shout/get angry at each other after 1-2 lines of text. And all the child/adult stuff made no sense. "They are adults, so blablabla". Same with Reccoa and her womanhood. Already transferred it to my HDD(so I can't look it up), but she said something that she was insulted by the people for not recognizing her as a woman. Because of that she proceeded to go to the "bad guy" and act as a tool for him but she thinks that he sees her as a woman, lol. Honestly, wasn't there any better reason to do that? Like...he is interesting or something which seems more reasonable.

Hm? No, I mean...you come across two people talking and hide behind a corner/outside, next to the door/inside the elevator. Well, you could just walk up to them, or would those people bite you? It's not like they were talking about something important/really concerning the character most of the time. And why do they run away this often? It makes no sense.

When you are a kid, you won't really understand the anime, as in, you don't pay attention to such things. Someone wrote that he watched the series when he was a kid, he loved it and re-watched it recently again and it was somehow worse and "ruined" his memories as a child. So he really loved the anime but when he was able to understand everything(recognize all the mistakes/flaws), it greatly disappointed him. That's what I mean. And the more anime you watched, the better you can compare anime and put them into perspective.
And as I said, the shows seem to be liked because of the mobile suits in the first place...and I think so even more after I read about the original Gundam(the part where it became known after Bandai started selling the models). I can certainly understand that, I love the games myself and want to play Gundam Musou so badly(aside from SRT), but I'm not a fan of the latest generation of consoles(because of the online functions and the need to regularly update it).


/edit:
Almost forgot. Fa's mobile suit gets completely destroyed but somehow, in the next episode, it is fine again, for whatever reason. That makes no sense to me.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 07:00:06
March 16 2011 06:34 GMT
#17306
On March 16 2011 14:43 triangle wrote:
Madoka delayed.



http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=288544&show=0

Yep, it's confirmed.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-03-16/this-week-madoka-magica-not-aired-in-self-restraint
http://www.madoka-magica.com/news/index.html#n215409

Also, lol
http://www.ggkthx.org/2011/03/15/recruiting-an-editor-who-is-a-business-major-and-baseball-fan/
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TimeOut
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1277 Posts
March 16 2011 09:48 GMT
#17307
On March 16 2011 15:34 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 14:43 triangle wrote:
Madoka delayed.



http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=288544&show=0

Yep, it's confirmed.
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-03-16/this-week-madoka-magica-not-aired-in-self-restraint
http://www.madoka-magica.com/news/index.html#n215409

Also, lol
http://www.ggkthx.org/2011/03/15/recruiting-an-editor-who-is-a-business-major-and-baseball-fan/


I sincerely hope that an useful group will pick up Moshidora and that we are not stuck with gg subs again.

Too bad about Madoka, but I expected that they would delay the show.

Happy Birthday Southlight. :D
Bakkendepao
Profile Joined February 2011
Netherlands185 Posts
March 16 2011 10:52 GMT
#17308
Does this mean there is coming a squel to Highschool of the Dead?
It was effin awesome =)
[1:11:58] محمد بن راشد آل مكتوم: >having a signature [1:11:58] محمد بن راشد آل مكتوم: what are you
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 13:46:45
March 16 2011 13:37 GMT
#17309
You mean when Wong literally beat Kamille up? Like...kicking him when he was on the ground? I'm sure such things help a lot. Emma got slapped as well, Katz got slapped but he did the same stuff in later episodes(moving out without any order). And sometimes the reason behind it was just ridiculous, like: "I can easily control the Zeta Gundam even though I don't know anything about it, I will just do it even though it belongs to Kamille". Why would anyone do such a thing? Especially when there is a battle of life and death out there. I also refuse to believe that such a slap helps in "correcting" them. Katz proved so and it's the same in real life. You just can't beat someone who is 14-20 and hope to change him/her. You do that either when the person is pretty young, or you don't do it at all.

Katz is really young. And I think its hilarious you don't believe that slapping is a good form of discipline when people constantly screw up. I guess harsh words would work better lol

Well, I will see how ZZ goes, will continue tomorrow or something, after I finished Kanagi.
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Still, why do people act that way then? You normally don't shout/get angry at each other after 1-2 lines of text. And all the child/adult stuff made no sense. "They are adults, so blablabla". Same with Reccoa and her womanhood. Already transferred it to my HDD(so I can't look it up), but she said something that she was insulted by the people for not recognizing her as a woman. Because of that she proceeded to go to the "bad guy" and act as a tool for him but she thinks that he sees her as a woman, lol. Honestly, wasn't there any better reason to do that? Like...he is interesting or something which seems more reasonable.
IDK what you are even talking about, but in real life, people do shout and get angry at each other, and even more so when tensions and stress is high.

Reccoa was a stupid bitch.
Hm? No, I mean...you come across two people talking and hide behind a corner/outside, next to the door/inside the elevator. Well, you could just walk up to them, or would those people bite you? It's not like they were talking about something important/really concerning the character most of the time. And why do they run away this often? It makes no sense.
Don't remember this to be an issue.
When you are a kid, you won't really understand the anime, as in, you don't pay attention to such things. Someone wrote that he watched the series when he was a kid, he loved it and re-watched it recently again and it was somehow worse and "ruined" his memories as a child. So he really loved the anime but when he was able to understand everything(recognize all the mistakes/flaws), it greatly disappointed him. That's what I mean. And the more anime you watched, the better you can compare anime and put them into perspective.
And as I said, the shows seem to be liked because of the mobile suits in the first place...and I think so even more after I read about the original Gundam(the part where it became known after Bandai started selling the models). I can certainly understand that, I love the games myself and want to play Gundam Musou so badly(aside from SRT), but I'm not a fan of the latest generation of consoles(because of the online functions and the need to regularly update it).
Go by /m/ sometime, and see all the fapping over Zeta Gundam. The show is liked so much because of its plot, and that its the first Tomino-kill-em-all. People in the West didn't grow up with Zeta Gundam. They grew up with Shounen Gundam. I didn't watch Zeta until like last year or something, which put me at 23-24 years old when I watched it, and I certainly don't understand these complaints you are making. The mechs were nice in Zeta, but if cool mechs is all it takes for a show to be popular, then Victory would be the most popular UC Gundam.

Almost forgot. Fa's mobile suit gets completely destroyed but somehow, in the next episode, it is fine again, for whatever reason. That makes no sense to me.
Thats because the Messus or w/e she was in was an incredibly cheap and easy to produce unit. That was really the only thing that piece of shit mech had going for it. Plus, whats his name, the engineer guy, was a pretty godly engineer.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
OskO
Profile Joined February 2011
Argentina369 Posts
March 16 2011 13:52 GMT
#17310
On March 16 2011 01:54 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2011 01:41 Spazer wrote:
On March 16 2011 01:01 Ferrose wrote:
On March 16 2011 00:16 Spazer wrote:
I liked HF better than the other routes because despite Sakura's suckage, I felt that the story of HF was a lot better. Mostly this is due to the darker nature of the route, but HF also kinda acts as the overarching route for F/SN in that it's able to use all the information you've learned from Fate and UBW to weave what I think is the most complete story.

I didn't like Saber. I wrote about it in a Fate/Zero spoiler a couple pages back.
+ Show Spoiler [Fate/Zero] +
Saber... I didn't really like her in FSN, and Fate/Zero didn't really help. Just like in FSN, her goal is to get the grail so that she can correct the actions in her past life since as the perfect king, she basically had to ignore the feelings and desires of many people for the good of the kingdom. And to this end, she kills Berserker despite how she's wronged him before just because he stands between her and the grail. In general, I've always felt that her wish is kind of a cop out, as if she's just trying to avoid taking responsibility for her actions in the past.

Happy birthday btw.


Saber was the best what are you talking about ;_;

Edit @ Sentenal: Why does Lancer get so screwed in the F/SN anime? Is the VN like that? I wanted more Gae Bolg

Edit @ Latham: I can't wait for all the Madoka figures. I'll be sure to get one(s) of Madoka and Homura. Hehehe

Lancer always gets screwed regardless of adaptation. It's like a recurring theme. =/ Maybe Nasu just hates the Irish or something.

There's already a Madoka nendoroid I think.
On March 16 2011 01:35 Ferrose wrote:
Hmm. Moshidora was supposed to air this early? Maybe that means it'll be 24 eps.

Moshidora's 10 episodes. The release schedule was kinda weird though - I think it was supposed to air in 10 consecutive days or something like that.

Well the plot did screw him over in like every adaptation, but at least in the VN version of UBW, Lancer gets to be a complete badass several times before the plot screws him over.


Lancer is Fate's Kenny.
Really liked it tho, pretty badass.
Though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light.
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8031 Posts
March 16 2011 14:00 GMT
#17311
On March 16 2011 19:52 Bakkendepao wrote:
Does this mean there is coming a squel to Highschool of the Dead?
It was effin awesome =)

The OVAs will probably cover the mall arc. Not gonna lie though, I thought this part was pretty lackluster in the manga, one scene notwithstanding. Heck, everything after the mansion has been pretty meh thus far. And the plot is crawling along at a snail's pace. Obviously they're going to end up at the airport and meet up with the spec ops woman at some point, but it's gonna take them ages... And the whole thing with the crazy teacher hasn't even been resolved yet.

Bah.
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Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 16 2011 14:11 GMT
#17312
On March 16 2011 15:34 Spazer wrote:
Also, lol
http://www.ggkthx.org/2011/03/15/recruiting-an-editor-who-is-a-business-major-and-baseball-fan/


Ahh, beaten to it

I wonder how long everything will be delayed. My guess is that unless the situation improves dramatically, everything may be delayed next week as well.
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 15:08:46
March 16 2011 15:01 GMT
#17313
On March 16 2011 22:37 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
You mean when Wong literally beat Kamille up? Like...kicking him when he was on the ground? I'm sure such things help a lot. Emma got slapped as well, Katz got slapped but he did the same stuff in later episodes(moving out without any order). And sometimes the reason behind it was just ridiculous, like: "I can easily control the Zeta Gundam even though I don't know anything about it, I will just do it even though it belongs to Kamille". Why would anyone do such a thing? Especially when there is a battle of life and death out there. I also refuse to believe that such a slap helps in "correcting" them. Katz proved so and it's the same in real life. You just can't beat someone who is 14-20 and hope to change him/her. You do that either when the person is pretty young, or you don't do it at all.

Katz is really young. And I think its hilarious you don't believe that slapping is a good form of discipline when people constantly screw up. I guess harsh words would work better lol

I never wrote that because I agree that it can work when you are young(as in <14 but best would be <10). Once someone enters puberty, such things won't work(95% of the time). On the contrary, it will make him/her even more rebellious. Katz is 15 years old and even in the series, it didn't work.
And what I wrote is based off general knowledge(Pedagogy) and own experience.
(Why did you only mention Katz and not Emma/Kamille? Or can't you justify how Wong beat Kamille up? )

On March 16 2011 22:37 Sentenal wrote:
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Still, why do people act that way then? You normally don't shout/get angry at each other after 1-2 lines of text. And all the child/adult stuff made no sense. "They are adults, so blablabla". Same with Reccoa and her womanhood. Already transferred it to my HDD(so I can't look it up), but she said something that she was insulted by the people for not recognizing her as a woman. Because of that she proceeded to go to the "bad guy" and act as a tool for him but she thinks that he sees her as a woman, lol. Honestly, wasn't there any better reason to do that? Like...he is interesting or something which seems more reasonable.
IDK what you are even talking about, but in real life, people do shout and get angry at each other, and even more so when tensions and stress is high.

But not after one-two lines of text and that is my problem. Just compare Gundam and Mugen no Ryvius, such a difference(or maybe not but I remember it being that way).

On March 16 2011 22:37 Sentenal wrote:
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Hm? No, I mean...you come across two people talking and hide behind a corner/outside, next to the door/inside the elevator. Well, you could just walk up to them, or would those people bite you? It's not like they were talking about something important/really concerning the character most of the time. And why do they run away this often? It makes no sense.
Don't remember this to be an issue.

You have to rewatch it then, honestly. It happened like...all the time -_-

On March 16 2011 22:37 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
When you are a kid, you won't really understand the anime, as in, you don't pay attention to such things. Someone wrote that he watched the series when he was a kid, he loved it and re-watched it recently again and it was somehow worse and "ruined" his memories as a child. So he really loved the anime but when he was able to understand everything(recognize all the mistakes/flaws), it greatly disappointed him. That's what I mean. And the more anime you watched, the better you can compare anime and put them into perspective.
And as I said, the shows seem to be liked because of the mobile suits in the first place...and I think so even more after I read about the original Gundam(the part where it became known after Bandai started selling the models). I can certainly understand that, I love the games myself and want to play Gundam Musou so badly(aside from SRT), but I'm not a fan of the latest generation of consoles(because of the online functions and the need to regularly update it).
Go by /m/ sometime, and see all the fapping over Zeta Gundam. The show is liked so much because of its plot, and that its the first Tomino-kill-em-all. People in the West didn't grow up with Zeta Gundam. They grew up with Shounen Gundam. I didn't watch Zeta until like last year or something, which put me at 23-24 years old when I watched it, and I certainly don't understand these complaints you are making. The mechs were nice in Zeta, but if cool mechs is all it takes for a show to be popular, then Victory would be the most popular UC Gundam.

I will never go to such an unholy place(again), it's the a-hole of the internet. Was there for maybe three days and checked things out but it's horrible. Shounen Gundam?
Hm, weird. How many anime have you watched so far? Are those comparable to the Gundam series? Maybe it's because of my background, but I don't really think so and I'm not the only one who thinks that way, so hmm. I don't know, the things I mentioned immediately caught my eye, it's pretty much impossible not to notice them(in my opinion).

On March 16 2011 22:37 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
Almost forgot. Fa's mobile suit gets completely destroyed but somehow, in the next episode, it is fine again, for whatever reason. That makes no sense to me.
Thats because the Messus or w/e she was in was an incredibly cheap and easy to produce unit. That was really the only thing that piece of shit mech had going for it. Plus, whats his name, the engineer guy, was a pretty godly engineer.

Do you think they can fix a completely destroyed mobile suit that easily and that fast? I wonder...
Another thing: Wasn't Fa supposed not to be a pilot anymore? When she wrecked the mobile suit, she said it was the last time(and Bright didn't want her to go either) but afterwards she went fighting again(several times).

Well, I'm better off with Akagi, gonna continue with it now. Only need to watch Gundam for the characters and their relationships anyway, so that I can fully understand the games. So the price to pay is still fine.


/edit:
The episode 4 scene, so good.
+ Show Spoiler +
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He only shoots him in the legs afterwards though.
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 15:55:19
March 16 2011 15:53 GMT
#17314
My sensors are tingling.

On March 15 2011 23:50 Sentenal wrote:
...And Ciel sucks.....


=(

About right now, Ciel would be the one consoling me. Kohaku would be laughing, Hisui would be staring blankly at me, Arc would probably just smile at me, and Akiha would just say something insulting but is actually being tsundere.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
March 16 2011 15:56 GMT
#17315
I'm, I'm not saying that because I care about her, you know!
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-03-16 17:08:05
March 16 2011 15:58 GMT
#17316
I never wrote that because I agree that it can work when you are young(as in <14 but best would be <10). Once someone enters puberty, such things won't work(95% of the time). On the contrary, it will make him/her even more rebellious. Katz is 15 years old and even in the series, it didn't work.
And what I wrote is based off general knowledge(Pedagogy) and own experience.
(Why did you only mention Katz and not Emma/Kamille? Or can't you justify how Wong beat Kamille up? )

Ema and Kamille got set straight from slapping, Amuro got set straight from slapping. Kamille deserved Wong beating his ass. Anyway, I mentioned Kamille earlier, so I'm not dodging the subject or anything.

Generally, when people get slapped by authority figures, they tend to not want to get slapped anymore, and so correct themselves. Would you rather Char just yell at them like a drill instructor the entire time, or maybe execute Katz for breaking military law? I take that back, since I would rather Katz have been executed.

But not after one-two lines of text and that is my problem. Just compare Gundam and Mugen no Ryvius, such a difference(or maybe not but I remember it being that way).

So, you don't think that civilians who are fighting a war against people who regularly commit genocide, and have the odds constantly stacked against themselves, wouldn't be highly stressed or irritable? People are prone to outbursts when they are just stressed from everyday stuff like work, so is it too hard to accept that they would be even more so when they are fighting/killing/dying in a war? lol

I will never go to such an unholy place(again), it's the a-hole of the internet. Was there for maybe three days and checked things out but it's horrible. Shounen Gundam?

Shounen Gundam is Gundam Wing. Also, /m/ is full of trolls constantly preying on each other, but it can at least give you an idea of what is/is not popular.

Hm, weird. How many anime have you watched so far? Are those comparable to the Gundam series? Maybe it's because of my background, but I don't really think so and I'm not the only one who thinks that way, so hmm. I don't know, the things I mentioned immediately caught my eye, it's pretty much impossible not to notice them(in my opinion).

According to MAL, I've completed 133 animes, currently watching 12, with (apparently) 101 days of my life that I will never get back wasted on anime. So i've watched alot. I've seen every main Gundam show, alot major mecha shows, from things dating back to Votoms, all the way to SRW in the present. I've watched lots of non-Mecha shows, although I tend to try and avoid slice of life shows, and romance dramas. It isn't a question of noticing the stuff you are complaining about, its a question of how much they bother you. You seem to be really bother by things that (IMO) are silly. All I can do is assure you that Zeta Gundam is practically the Holy Grail of Gundam shows, and while you might not be the only one to have your opinions on it, you are definitely in a minority. Similarly to how I'm in the minority on my views of Evangelion.

Do you think they can fix a completely destroyed mobile suit that easily and that fast? I wonder...
Another thing: Wasn't Fa supposed not to be a pilot anymore? When she wrecked the mobile suit, she said it was the last time(and Bright didn't want her to go either) but afterwards she went fighting again(several times).

http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/msa-005.htm
Trash mobile suit, but fortunately very easy to repair. Also you have to keep in mind, the sense of time in these things aren't always portrayed like they should be. Fa herself wasn't supposed to be a pilot, but circumstances would often dictate otherwise.


The only good thing to come out of watching ZZ Gundam, Roux is decent enough, and it lets you understand more stuff about Gundam Unicorn. Other than that, you have Judau and his gang making a mockery of stuff, putting a Zaku head on the Zeta, Bright getting a chicken on his head, and battling space Aztecs in some space colony. I predict we will actually agree on the quality of ZZ when you finish it lol
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11767 Posts
March 16 2011 17:07 GMT
#17317
[1:02:34 PM] ウル: happy birthday?
[1:04:43 PM] nightseternal: yeah
[1:04:45 PM] nightseternal: and you just got owned
[1:04:47 PM] nightseternal: on my birthday
[1:04:48 PM] nightseternal: lol
[1:04:49 PM] nightseternal: like
[1:04:50 PM] nightseternal: owned
[1:04:57 PM] nightseternal: ownnnnnnnnnnnzd
[1:05:00 PM] ウル: o_O
[1:05:08 PM] nightseternal: aiyoku no eustia coming out 4/28
[1:05:17 PM] ウル: EH (゜ロ゜; )エェッ!?
[1:05:20 PM] ウル: DELAYED?!
[1:05:22 PM] nightseternal: yeah
[1:05:32 PM] ウル: FFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

On the bright side it wasn't looking like I'll be very free end of march and on till mid-late April (lots of projects) so that's a good thing for me LOL

On the down side Aiyoku and Alchemy are both coming out on the same month now bleh.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
March 16 2011 17:18 GMT
#17318
On March 17 2011 00:53 bearbuddy wrote:
My sensors are tingling.

Show nested quote +
On March 15 2011 23:50 Sentenal wrote:
...And Ciel sucks.....


=(

About right now, Ciel would be the one consoling me. Kohaku would be laughing, Hisui would be staring blankly at me, Arc would probably just smile at me, and Akiha would just say something insulting but is actually being tsundere.

Kohaku would probably be secretly poisoning you behind the scenes, actually.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
March 16 2011 17:25 GMT
#17319
On March 17 2011 00:58 Sentenal wrote:
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I never wrote that because I agree that it can work when you are young(as in <14 but best would be <10). Once someone enters puberty, such things won't work(95% of the time). On the contrary, it will make him/her even more rebellious. Katz is 15 years old and even in the series, it didn't work.
And what I wrote is based off general knowledge(Pedagogy) and own experience.
(Why did you only mention Katz and not Emma/Kamille? Or can't you justify how Wong beat Kamille up? )

Ema and Kamille got set straight from slapping, Amuro got set straight from slapping. Kamille deserved Wong beating his ass. Anyway, I mentioned Kamille earlier, so I'm not dodging the subject or anything.

Generally, when people get slapped by authority figures, they tend to not want to get slapped anymore, and so correct themselves. Would you rather Char just yell at them like a drill instructor the entire time, or maybe execute Katz for breaking military law? I take that back, since I would rather Katz have been executed.

Emma didn't need any slaps because she was adequate to begin with. She knew how to behave, she was member of the Titans after all. When you know that you are doing something "wrong", slaps don't matter at all because when you don't have to do something like this again, you won't and if you have to, you will. So, she wasn't set straight. Amuro's slapping was ridiculous, the whole thing was messed up. "You are selfish because you don't offer yourself to the ship and give your freedom away"(it's a Japanese thing, but still). Or when he said that they only made it so far because of him and then they said he shouldn't get conceited and then they said it's true and blabla, it was full of inconsistencies. About Kamille, I wonder why he got slapped, would need to rewatch the reasons for that. I think it was once because he was being stupid and the other times just for the fun of it. And there is no indication that he gained anything from that experience. Just because it doesn't happen again, it doesn't mean anything. If the opportunities would have been there, I guess he would have done something "slap-worthy" again(in Bright's or whatever person's view). Wait, didn't he actually do that? I mean, he didn't kill the enemy(Four) and meddled in the other's business(stopping them when they were attacking), but no one punished him for that. That makes no sense in my opinion. Also, you approve of something like kicking a person who is already lying on the ground? Wow, what kinda person are you? oO
Ah, the slaps Char received were ridiculous as well

When you are young(puberty), "authority figures" won't matter at all. They are especially the ones which you rebel against(just like your parents, teachers etc). And Kamille was just such a person, looking at his relationship to his parents. I just remembered something, Bright saw himself as a father figure of Kamille, lol. Honestly...lol. And there was either Reccoa or Emma who said that Kamille has an affection towards her which was weird as well since there was absolutely no indication of it.
There is a reason why kids aren't in the army and that is the one. You either discipline them earlier or you don't rely on them. You could also change your stance towards them and give them a hellish schedule and everything(that doesn't mean that this will certainly help, but it can...or there will be the opposite reaction), but you certainly can't slap him one time and act all friendly the other time you meet him.

On March 17 2011 00:58 Sentenal wrote:
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But not after one-two lines of text and that is my problem. Just compare Gundam and Mugen no Ryvius, such a difference(or maybe not but I remember it being that way).

So, you don't think that civilians who are fighting a war against people who regularly commit genocide, and have the odds constantly stacked against themselves, wouldn't be highly stressed or irritable? People are prone to outbursts when they are just stressed from everyday stuff like work, so is it too hard to accept that they would be even more so when they are fighting/killing/dying in a war? lol

No, it is certainly not. But you need a reason for that, just something. There is no way, one person would get angry when someone says: "Hi, how are you?". They would get angry when someone makes a more...negative, dubious(?) comment. It's like, everything is fine and suddenly person A starts attacking person B for no reason whatsoever. That's why I referenced Mugen no Ryvius because it is somehow similar but the behaviour makes a lot more sense(in my opinion)...(except for the yandere, I think -.-).

On March 17 2011 00:58 Sentenal wrote:
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I will never go to such an unholy place(again), it's the a-hole of the internet. Was there for maybe three days and checked things out but it's horrible. Shounen Gundam?

Shounen Gundam is Gundam Wing. Also, /m/ is full of trolls constantly preying on each other, but it can at least give you an idea of what is/is not popular.

Ah, weird name. I have no idea what kinda people are lurking there, so I can't comment on them anyway. Maybe the age average is 14, maybe it is 24, that makes a huge difference imo. And there are a lot of different kinds of anime fans anyway.

On March 17 2011 00:58 Sentenal wrote:
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Hm, weird. How many anime have you watched so far? Are those comparable to the Gundam series? Maybe it's because of my background, but I don't really think so and I'm not the only one who thinks that way, so hmm. I don't know, the things I mentioned immediately caught my eye, it's pretty much impossible not to notice them(in my opinion).

According to MAL, I've completed 133 animes, currently watching 12, with (apparently) 101 days of my life wasted on anime. So i've watched alot. I've seen every main Gundam show, alot major mecha shows, from things dating back to Votoms, all the way to SRW in the present. I've watched lots of non-Mecha shows, although I tend to try and avoid slice of life shows, and romance dramas. It isn't a question of noticing the stuff you are complaining about, its a question of how much they bother you. You seem to be really bother by things that (IMO) are silly. All I can do is assure you that Zeta Gundam is practically the Holy Grail of Gundam shows, and while you might not be the only one to have your opinions on it, you are definitely in a minority. Similarly to how I'm in the minority on my views of Evangelion.

Hm, I wouldn't say it's "a lot" but it's certainly more than the average(I think...or rather hope). I watched roughly 3x more anime than you did(ok, some are hentai, so more like 2.5x) and my time spent watching is...completely outdated. Hm, I don't think Mecha shows matter because we are more talking about the characters(in a war setting, somehow and in general). But even then, I'm with you but I haven't watched this many old ones(I intend to though, at some point...but there is often a lack of fansubs). It's, in my opinion, the exactly same thing. I would call it "awareness". You lack it when you are younger but you gain it as you become older. But "what you are aware of" always depends on something, like what you do in real life...or what is bothering you(what you mentioned). As I said, when you study history, for example, you are more aware of those facts in anime(that applies to me) but when you don't like your own nose(^^) you will be as aware of other noses(in real life and anime(ok, not so likely, it's more about things like personality, behaviour etc)). I do think the latter one applies to me as well but certainly not as much as the former one.
Anyway, it somehow drifted a bit away, lol, but it's always so hard to understand each other.

And yeah, do watch Mugen no Ryvius The Gespenst is part of this series btw.

On March 17 2011 00:58 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
Do you think they can fix a completely destroyed mobile suit that easily and that fast? I wonder...
Another thing: Wasn't Fa supposed not to be a pilot anymore? When she wrecked the mobile suit, she said it was the last time(and Bright didn't want her to go either) but afterwards she went fighting again(several times).

http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/z/msa-005.htm
Trash mobile suit, but fortunately very easy to repair. Also you have to keep in mind, the sense of time in these things aren't always portrayed like they should be. Fa herself wasn't supposed to be a pilot, but circumstances would often dictate otherwise.


The only good thing to come out of watching ZZ Gundam, Roux is decent enough, and it lets you understand more stuff about Gundam Unicorn. Other than that, you have Judau and his gang making a mockery of stuff, putting a Zaku head on the Zeta, Bright getting a chicken on his head, and battling space Aztecs in some space colony. I predict we will actually agree on the quality of ZZ when you finish it lol

Still, it's a small ship and to have all the spare parts to build the same mobile suit from scratch again? I mean, if it was only the arms or maybe even the legs as well but it was completely destroyed. It just seems too good to me(that they did it so fast and easily) but it doesn't really matter because it's only an insignificant part of the series. Yeah, that was something which bothered me a bit as well, the pacing. Not sure, but I don't think they really required her except for the very end. Even without Reccoa they should have had enough pilots. And if they let her pilot the mobile suit later anyway, what is the point of arguing about it earlier in the series? All that talk and time were essentially wasted after that.

Are you sure? You rated it a 7...ok, it always depends what a 7 is for you. I have so many anime in relation to each other that I can accurately place them(I still need to re-evalute several anime though) but I would like to have 0.5s as well because I really need those. So...hm, I guess a 7 for you could very well be a 6 for me. Ah well, the different rating systems...
I'm not a fan of war-setting+comedy(same with drama+comedy etc), at all. That's the main reason why I disliked Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. You are almost dying and any second it could be too late but you insist on connecting "properly". That was one of the most retarted scenes I have ever seen but a lot of people like it and think it is manly. Well, I'm a rather rational person, so...yeah.

Uff, I just hope I didn't make too many typos. I was supposed to happily watch my series but somehow, we write this much :/
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
March 16 2011 17:26 GMT
#17320
Infinite moneyz to anyone who can name all these without the notes:

http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/816844/2d_dating-4chan-absurdres-aegis-aisaka_taiga-aizaw

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