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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 14 2017 11:20 GMT
#121501
Not really anime, but i'm waiting until they're done with it to watch it.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8033 Posts
July 14 2017 13:45 GMT
#121502
On July 14 2017 15:39 Slaughter wrote:
I'm on a Type Moon kind of train atm which is why I think I will read Tsukihime or watch the Kara no Kyoukai movies. Gota dive deeper into the Nasuverse.

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 13:16 Spazer wrote:
On July 14 2017 07:52 Slaughter wrote:
Is any of the Tsukihime media besides the original VN worth reading/watching? Seems like they did a short manga and an anime series for it.

The manga is a mashup route. For what it is, it's not half bad. The anime was garbage enough that it became a meme.

Plus Disc is alright. Kagetsu Tohya is a must. Melty is pretty good. There's also one or two okay short stories that hint at some past/future developments (despite the fact that we're never getting a sequel, let alone that remake).


What is the Melty Blood on steam? Is it like a special edition? Its called Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code.

MBAACC is a pure fighting game. Only the original game and Re-Act has the VN bits if I remember correctly.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 14 2017 13:59 GMT
#121503
On July 14 2017 15:39 Slaughter wrote:
I'm on a Type Moon kind of train atm which is why I think I will read Tsukihime or watch the Kara no Kyoukai movies. Gota dive deeper into the Nasuverse.

Show nested quote +
On July 14 2017 13:16 Spazer wrote:
On July 14 2017 07:52 Slaughter wrote:
Is any of the Tsukihime media besides the original VN worth reading/watching? Seems like they did a short manga and an anime series for it.

The manga is a mashup route. For what it is, it's not half bad. The anime was garbage enough that it became a meme.

Plus Disc is alright. Kagetsu Tohya is a must. Melty is pretty good. There's also one or two okay short stories that hint at some past/future developments (despite the fact that we're never getting a sequel, let alone that remake).


What is the Melty Blood on steam? Is it like a special edition? Its called Melty Blood Actress Again Current Code.

Yea, like Spazer said, MBAACC is the most recent version of the fighter, so as an actual fighting game, its the best, but it doesn't have the VN aspect as the original had. The original was pretty shotty, as far as fighters go, but the VN aspect was solid.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 14 2017 14:56 GMT
#121504
So steam is lying to me when it says it has rich lore XD
Never Knows Best.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8664 Posts
July 14 2017 15:15 GMT
#121505
Bleh, Kakegurui is awful. Also way too much unnecessary cgi.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 14 2017 15:19 GMT
#121506
On July 14 2017 23:56 Slaughter wrote:
So steam is lying to me when it says it has rich lore XD

Well, it has an arcade mode, but its about the same amount of story as you'd expect from any fighter! Definitely not the on the same level as the original
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 14 2017 15:25 GMT
#121507
On July 15 2017 00:15 Miragee wrote:
Bleh, Kakegurui is awful. Also way too much unnecessary cgi.

I wonder why there's this upturn of CGI lately. It still looks garbage but now people are stockholming themselves so hard. Is Japanese government funding CGI development like all those "please make babies" anime?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-14 15:37:29
July 14 2017 15:33 GMT
#121508
Isn't CGI just much faster (i.e. cheaper) to do? Especially when the studios get more experienced at it.

Also some CGI looks fairly good IMO, like from Seikaisuru Kado from last season.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 14 2017 15:38 GMT
#121509
CGI isn't cheaper/faster per se, but it can be recycled and once a model is created it can be reused and refilmed from any angle you want since it's 3D.

It costs more to produce a model with 3DCG than it does to draw it, but that only counts for a single frame, the second you begin reusing it, especially multiple times or constantly throughout a series, it becomes so much cheaper. You can even reuse it if you make another season or multiple seasons.

So yeah, in the end it speeds things up and cuts some corners cost wise.

I doubt it'd be cheaper if the CG was super high quality tho, then again super high quality 3DCG might look even more out of place than the cheap 3DCG does lol.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 14 2017 15:40 GMT
#121510
I believe it's a lot more expensive when doing it at high levels like Pixar/Disney stuff. It's just anime CGI is used more to save time and money so it's garbage dumpster fire.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8664 Posts
July 14 2017 15:41 GMT
#121511
On July 15 2017 00:33 HolydaKing wrote:
Isn't CGI just much faster (i.e. cheaper) to do? Especially when the studios get more experienced at it.

Also some CGI looks fairly good IMO, like from Seikaisuru Kado from last season.


Yes it is as long as you do it in cheap manner, which looks like ass. If they did some Blizzard Trailer or Triple A movie production stuff then it wouldn't be cheap. If their aim is to produce cheap anime that looks garbage and think it's a good marketing strategy, then ok. On top of that, 3D just looks so out of place when paired with 2D animation. It just doesn't work well.

Also please define "fairly good". As in, slightly less than terrible?
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 14 2017 15:49 GMT
#121512
With fairly good I meant that it - to me - was on par with most other animes despite being CGI. Then again, I also liked the CGI in Tales of Zestiria for the most part which I know you didn't.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 14 2017 16:15 GMT
#121513
Not all CGI is terrible. CGI in Knights of Sidonia aside from models wasn't bad at all and I personally think the mech CGI in Knights and Magic is fine too.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
July 14 2017 16:26 GMT
#121514
On July 15 2017 01:15 BigFan wrote:
Not all CGI is terrible. CGI in Knights of Sidonia aside from models wasn't bad at all and I personally think the mech CGI in Knights and Magic is fine too.

So the Stockholm begins. The CGI in Sidonia was awful. It's the poster child of anime fans delusional "CGI isn't too bad!"
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
July 14 2017 16:35 GMT
#121515
On July 15 2017 01:26 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2017 01:15 BigFan wrote:
Not all CGI is terrible. CGI in Knights of Sidonia aside from models wasn't bad at all and I personally think the mech CGI in Knights and Magic is fine too.

So the Stockholm begins. The CGI in Sidonia was awful. It's the poster child of anime fans delusional "CGI isn't too bad!"

Let's agree to disagree. I don't plan on budging on this one.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
July 14 2017 16:56 GMT
#121516
That's where I agree, the CGI in both Knights of Sidonia and Ajin (the same one here?) were really hard to watch, they felt like low FPS or something.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
July 14 2017 17:14 GMT
#121517
I thought the cgi in knights of sidonia looked awful but I don't mind it in knights and magic though
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 14 2017 18:46 GMT
#121518
The Sidonia cgi was fine whenever they werent animating a person.
Never Knows Best.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
July 14 2017 20:09 GMT
#121519
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-07-14/4th-tenchi-muyo-ryo-ohki-ova-reveals-additional-cast-designs/.118843

I will bite
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 14 2017 20:19 GMT
#121520
The only good looking CGI in anime is stuff done by Studio Orange. For instance, MJP had very high quality CGI.

Knights of Sidonia CGI looked really bad. The mecha CGI in it wasn't the absolute worst, but the CGI people...... God that was terrible.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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