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Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
July 16 2017 07:04 GMT
#121541
I feel like BigFan misunderstood something in Monster but i also feel like elaborating or trying to ask about it might just spoil him so i'll wait.
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8715 Posts
July 16 2017 07:13 GMT
#121542
On July 16 2017 16:04 Unleashing wrote:
I feel like BigFan misunderstood something in Monster but i also feel like elaborating or trying to ask about it might just spoil him so i'll wait.


Yeah pretty much this. I wrote something but I removed it. Let's see how this continues.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-16 07:15:41
July 16 2017 07:15 GMT
#121543
Pretty much. Best solution is for him just to keep watching, he'll figure it out himself. Probably.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 16 2017 07:32 GMT
#121544
KnK 5th movie kinda was crazy. Even when I found an answer about what Touka accomplished via an exert from the ln it was pretty crazy. She is pretty cool but I am not sure if I even understand her existence hehe.
Never Knows Best.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8715 Posts
July 16 2017 07:57 GMT
#121545
Kakegurui is the next to be on the chopping block. I can't feel the stakes. Especially for the MC it seems like a random amount of money she is throwing around each time. She pretends to care so much for high stakes yet it doesn't seem like she cares about the result, which nullifies the tension set by the stakes. I also can't get behind faces and insane talk. After that, all there is left is an electronic soundtrack I'm not fond of and mediocre animation peppered with too much cgi.

On July 16 2017 16:32 Slaughter wrote:
KnK 5th movie kinda was crazy. Even when I found an answer about what Touka accomplished via an exert from the ln it was pretty crazy. She is pretty cool but I am not sure if I even understand her existence hehe.


Yeah Touko is pretty cool. I must admit though that I, despite all the love for the 5th movie, didn't really like it.

+ Show Spoiler +
For me the whole "caught in a time loop" part failed completely. At first I was annoyed because of the constantly repeated scenes. When I realised it was a time loop it didn't make things better because they cut from one scene to the next, including some only few-second-long repeats, so fast that it made my head spin. To me it felt like it wasn't even trying to walk the fine border between "creating a challenging experience for the viewer's mind" and "take the viewer with me". It felt like it was just trying to lose me as a viewer at any cost, which is just bad writing in my book.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-16 10:44:18
July 16 2017 10:41 GMT
#121546
On July 16 2017 12:13 Slaughter wrote:
I started the KnK movies. Some say its better to watch in chronological order but meh already started. I am kinda glad I watched a summary of the KnK lore beforehand because it feels like I would have missed a lot o.O

Missing out is part of the charm. It's like a mystery you slowly piece together by the end of the series. Rather sad that there's people out there that tell you to watch chronological because it completely kills this aspect.

@Miragee - If you felt lost then it did it's job. Memento did it better but well that's Nolan so it's a bit of an unfair comparison.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-16 16:02:08
July 16 2017 15:19 GMT
#121547
On July 16 2017 12:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 12:13 Slaughter wrote:
I started the KnK movies. Some say its better to watch in chronological order but meh already started. I am kinda glad I watched a summary of the KnK lore beforehand because it feels like I would have missed a lot o.O

Typically the reason why I don't like going in blind. hue

also, typical baka reptile with subtle brag zz + Show Spoiler +
plz no "ya'll", I might confuse you with Danglars. mfw. You're GER ffs

please stop calling me a reptile... I'm either an amphibian or a kind of machinery if you have to go out of your way.

Also, kind of disappointed I didn't get any kind of snark for my konoSuba loli-succubus link (still massively nsfw) from you. That's been our kind of play, hasn't it?

On July 16 2017 16:57 Miragee wrote:
Kakegurui is the next to be on the chopping block. I can't feel the stakes. Especially for the MC it seems like a random amount of money she is throwing around each time. She pretends to care so much for high stakes yet it doesn't seem like she cares about the result, which nullifies the tension set by the stakes. I also can't get behind faces and insane talk. After that, all there is left is an electronic soundtrack I'm not fond of and mediocre animation peppered with too much cgi.

Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 16:32 Slaughter wrote:
KnK 5th movie kinda was crazy. Even when I found an answer about what Touka accomplished via an exert from the ln it was pretty crazy. She is pretty cool but I am not sure if I even understand her existence hehe.


Yeah Touko is pretty cool. I must admit though that I, despite all the love for the 5th movie, didn't really like it.

+ Show Spoiler +
For me the whole "caught in a time loop" part failed completely. At first I was annoyed because of the constantly repeated scenes. When I realised it was a time loop it didn't make things better because they cut from one scene to the next, including some only few-second-long repeats, so fast that it made my head spin. To me it felt like it wasn't even trying to walk the fine border between "creating a challenging experience for the viewer's mind" and "take the viewer with me". It felt like it was just trying to lose me as a viewer at any cost, which is just bad writing in my book.

kinda weird. Kakegurui is probably one of the more hyped ones this season. I can see that it's nothing for me so I never went ahead and checked it out myself but whenever I heard the name I generally have heard nothing but good stuff about the manga from multiple people.
Is that a thing with the adaptation or are you the only one not liking it in here? Again, I don't watch it, just asking out of curiosity.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8715 Posts
July 16 2017 16:12 GMT
#121548
On July 17 2017 00:19 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 16:57 Miragee wrote:
Kakegurui is the next to be on the chopping block. I can't feel the stakes. Especially for the MC it seems like a random amount of money she is throwing around each time. She pretends to care so much for high stakes yet it doesn't seem like she cares about the result, which nullifies the tension set by the stakes. I also can't get behind faces and insane talk. After that, all there is left is an electronic soundtrack I'm not fond of and mediocre animation peppered with too much cgi.

On July 16 2017 16:32 Slaughter wrote:
KnK 5th movie kinda was crazy. Even when I found an answer about what Touka accomplished via an exert from the ln it was pretty crazy. She is pretty cool but I am not sure if I even understand her existence hehe.


Yeah Touko is pretty cool. I must admit though that I, despite all the love for the 5th movie, didn't really like it.

+ Show Spoiler +
For me the whole "caught in a time loop" part failed completely. At first I was annoyed because of the constantly repeated scenes. When I realised it was a time loop it didn't make things better because they cut from one scene to the next, including some only few-second-long repeats, so fast that it made my head spin. To me it felt like it wasn't even trying to walk the fine border between "creating a challenging experience for the viewer's mind" and "take the viewer with me". It felt like it was just trying to lose me as a viewer at any cost, which is just bad writing in my book.

kinda weird. Kakegurui is probably one of the more hyped ones this season. I can see that it's nothing for me so I never went ahead and checked it out myself but whenever I heard the name I generally have heard nothing but good stuff about the manga from multiple people.
Is that a thing with the adaptation or are you the only one not liking it in here? Again, I don't watch it, just asking out of curiosity.


Uhm, I can see why this is being hyped because Kakegurui ticks most boxes for a hype-show these days. However, most of these boxes are things I really don't like, so yeah, it doesn't surprise me at all that this is apparently being hyped while I don't like it. I suppose people who think similar regarding this in this thread haven't tried it yet or never will. I think Spazer was the only one who mentioned he wasn't impressed with ep1 and thought the stakes were weak.
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-16 16:49:19
July 16 2017 16:49 GMT
#121549
I still haven't watched it and i'm having a hard time motivating myself to watch ep 1
Haven't really heard anything good about it from people i talk to
From the Ghastly Eyrie I can see to the ends of the world, and from this vantage point I declare with utter certainty that this one is in the bag!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 16 2017 19:07 GMT
#121550
On July 17 2017 00:19 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 16 2017 12:16 NeoIllusions wrote:
On July 16 2017 12:13 Slaughter wrote:
I started the KnK movies. Some say its better to watch in chronological order but meh already started. I am kinda glad I watched a summary of the KnK lore beforehand because it feels like I would have missed a lot o.O

Typically the reason why I don't like going in blind. hue

also, typical baka reptile with subtle brag zz + Show Spoiler +
plz no "ya'll", I might confuse you with Danglars. mfw. You're GER ffs

please stop calling me a reptile... I'm either an amphibian or a kind of machinery if you have to go out of your way.

Also, kind of disappointed I didn't get any kind of snark for my konoSuba loli-succubus link (still massively nsfw) from you. That's been our kind of play, hasn't it?

Must call you reptile even more now. What kind of machinery?

That was such an easy lob that I just passed on it. Also, it wasn't that bad. Since starting FGO, there's plenty of lolis and traps in that game, smh.
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
July 16 2017 20:07 GMT
#121551
I've seen three eps of Kakegurui, and I think that's enough for me. It really just comes off a worse version of Akagi/Kaiji.

There are several aspects you can focus on in gambling: the stakes, the game, and the characters. There is plenty of play in how important each aspect is, but overall, you have to do something well.

Kaiji manages to do all three - lives and other things are gambled with (more importantly, it actually follows through when needed), the mechanics of the game are explored and exploited, and there's plenty of sympathetic characters to go around (a lot is also made of "true" personalities being revealed in high stress situations and all that).

On the other hand, One Outs has money as the stakes. It's basically a non-factor. What it really does well is the game - it takes the esteemed sport of baseball and turns it into a ridiculous, entertaining farce.

In three episodes, Kakegurui really hasn't shown anything. The stakes are nonexistent because it's just money, and all the characters just piss it away. Becoming a "pet" is the other thing that's at stake, but that's also fairly meaningless. + Show Spoiler +
At least, the female MC sure doesn't care.
The games so far have all been very simple. That's fine. However, they've also come at a pace of 1 per episode. That's not so good. Half the fun of these games lie in the back and forth, which you simply can't have in such a short timeframe. In essence, they've spent nearly a quarter of the season on throwaway introductory games. Character-wise, there's nothing to write home about about. There's a beta MC who's just an observer (not unusual for for gambling shows) and a crazy gambler. Very typical.

Thus, The only claims to fame this show has so far are mild service and meme faces. Maybe they'll have a more substantial game down the line, but it's a pretty awful start for a 1-cour show.
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Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8715 Posts
July 16 2017 20:35 GMT
#121552
Yeah, Spazer worded that way better than I did, I fully concur.

Unrelated: I finished Usagi Drop. The last episode was sooo good, I think I laughed more than during the other 10 episodes combined. In general the show felt incredibly genuine. That was a good watch!
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
July 16 2017 20:54 GMT
#121553
lul, but that Usagi Drop source...
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Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
July 17 2017 00:12 GMT
#121554
Made in Abyss has the strongest hook this season. Like it's not even close. I'm very interested to see what direction they take with this.

Dive ep 1 sucked. Ep 2 was a lot better. Pretty average sports anime.

I thought Ballroom e Youkoso wouldn't be able to showcase the same level of elegance, power, and grace that the manga is so good at portraying. And sure enough, they didn't. But frankly, that's an impossibly high bar. I don't see myself dropping this unless they screw something up horribly.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9070 Posts
July 17 2017 02:03 GMT
#121555
Fate and Knights and Magic were pretty good this week. Knights and Magic might get cut if MC doesn't stop orgasming every time he sees a mech.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 17 2017 02:13 GMT
#121556
I dunno, orgasming every time you see a robot seems like the acceptable response. Whats wrong with that?

Fate/Apocrypha is really suffering from too-many-characters syndrome, IMO.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9070 Posts
July 17 2017 02:16 GMT
#121557
On July 17 2017 11:13 Sentenal wrote:
I dunno, orgasming every time you see a robot seems like the acceptable response. Whats wrong with that?

Fate/Apocrypha is really suffering from too-many-characters syndrome, IMO.

It's cringe inducing to my ears?

Fate is fine at the moment. It'll get really crazy when they actually get to the fighting. If they try to introduce every servant and master, it'll be a headache for sure. But it was 14 characters before. Now it's 28.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
July 17 2017 02:21 GMT
#121558
As long as we get more of those sweet sweet Mordred with her master scenes Fate is golden. Also Jeanne and Fran XD I dunno why reddit seems to be losing its mind over the trap character.
Never Knows Best.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
July 17 2017 02:43 GMT
#121559
On July 17 2017 11:16 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 17 2017 11:13 Sentenal wrote:
I dunno, orgasming every time you see a robot seems like the acceptable response. Whats wrong with that?

Fate/Apocrypha is really suffering from too-many-characters syndrome, IMO.

It's cringe inducing to my ears?

Fate is fine at the moment. It'll get really crazy when they actually get to the fighting. If they try to introduce every servant and master, it'll be a headache for sure. But it was 14 characters before. Now it's 28.

Sounds like its a personal problem, then. His reaction to mecha is only natural, if he was reacting any other way it would just make him a failure as a Gundam fan.

As for Fate, they've already started doing that. Almost the whole Black side, and like half of the Red Side. The first two episodes were fine, since they pretty much focused on Mordred and her Master, but this past episode they barely even showed up. I dunno how they expect the viewer to care about anything with so many different characters competing for screentime.

On July 17 2017 11:21 Slaughter wrote:
As long as we get more of those sweet sweet Mordred with her master scenes Fate is golden. Also Jeanne and Fran XD I dunno why reddit seems to be losing its mind over the trap character.

People have a weird fascination over traps, for whatever reason :/
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-07-17 02:54:06
July 17 2017 02:49 GMT
#121560
There isn't really main character in apoc, while there are half dozen of character who can compete for that title, everyone have pretty extensive storyline. This works better in the novel form than anime, but they are doing a fairly good job of it imo.

1 thing they royally screwed up was that having both Karna and Seig say their name... like WTF,??! Did no 1 working on the script know anything about fate?
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