EPTAnime Discussion Thread - Page 6009
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Lackbleeder
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abuse
Latvia1945 Posts
On May 03 2017 19:54 Lackbleeder wrote: The industry wouldn't have to rely on extorting it's fans with their 30$/episode bullshit if it had a proper global distributor with fair prices (CR is ass). It's the only reason why I pirate anime but not VN's. you can use a proxy to get past that tho. I have the same issue until I just press 1 button. | ||
Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
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ihatevideogames
570 Posts
On May 03 2017 22:04 Nagisama wrote: magnet links via HS still viable. just harder to get not currently airing stuff. Someone had a 1-month old backup. Magnets work, as long as you use DHT. I'm not sure if it's allowed to post a link here though. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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IceHism
United States1903 Posts
On May 03 2017 19:39 ihatevideogames wrote: The industry has no real reason to make a good way to pay for anime. In fact, anime being easy to watch for free is perect for them, since most of the revenue is from figures and BD sales. Anyway, there's an 8 month old backup up already, so it's only a matter of time before someone else makes a more permanent replacement. But I doubt it's gonne be as good as nyaa. Hopefully though, this will teach the community not to put all their eggs into 1 basket. Fuck Daiz and his cartel. No, streaming and broadcasting rights in foreign countries make more than merchandise and bds since 2016. Majority of that revenue comes from US and China though so they really only care for those two places. http://aja.gr.jp/?wpdmdl=1005 | ||
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ihatevideogames
570 Posts
On May 04 2017 00:14 IceHism wrote: No, streaming and broadcasting rights in foreign countries make more than merchandise and bds since 2016. Majority of that revenue comes from US and China though so they really only care for those two places. http://aja.gr.jp/?wpdmdl=1005 China, I assume. The more hardcore fans in the west that are more likely to spend on figures are probably extremely snobby of CR and with good reason. Anyway, this whole thing will blow over and we'll get a new nyaa in no time. Just hoping they manage to save most of sukebei. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On May 04 2017 00:14 IceHism wrote: No, streaming and broadcasting rights in foreign countries make more than merchandise and bds since 2016. Majority of that revenue comes from US and China though so they really only care for those two places. http://aja.gr.jp/?wpdmdl=1005 Well to be fair if you ignore most parts of Europe and don't offer any kind of legal streaming because your "global" streaming in reality is nothing but US + UK + Australia + Canada (idk, am I forgetting something here?) you're not going to get a lot of people who are willing to pay for CR etc if you aren't able to see half of the stuff on CR in your country. There was a screenshot like that a bit earlier to showcase it (yes you can proxy but come on, at that point you might as well pirate). Now it obviously depends on which country we're talking about and I have to admit I haven't checked back on it ever since 2nd season of Railgun aired, which is years ago, but I'd assume it has gotten a bit better for the bigger countries like Germany and probably France (France has shittons of weebs per capita iirc). But it's also a shitty situation to be in for them. With the US and China it's fairly easy to get something going. You have one big nation that has a large population so getting one deal for that is pretty #worth. You even have english subs at that point that you can use for other countries like the UK etc. Whereas other european countries I'd assume just have to be a mess. You probably have to negotioate with a different company for every country and Denmark with its population of ~5.5million just (assumption on my part) isn't worth the effort at that point. Especially if the people in charge are some 50year olds that don't realize that we're fine with english subtitles and everyone thinks they need subtitles in german, in french and in every other language to stream it in the EU. That being said, if they realize that we're fine with english subtitles in the EU, even outside of the UK, and would just get some kind of EU-wide deal I could certainly see more money comming from people over here. Not sure if that's possible though. | ||
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IceHism
United States1903 Posts
On May 04 2017 00:55 Toadesstern wrote: Well to be fair if you ignore most parts of Europe and don't offer any kind of legal streaming because your "global" streaming in reality is nothing but US + UK + Australia + Canada (idk, am I forgetting something here?) you're not going to get a lot of people who are willing to pay for CR etc if you aren't able to see half of the stuff on CR in your country. There was a screenshot like that a bit earlier to showcase it (yes you can proxy but come on, at that point you might as well pirate). Now it obviously depends on which country we're talking about and I have to admit I haven't checked back on it ever since 2nd season of Railgun aired, which is years ago, but I'd assume it has gotten a bit better for the bigger countries like Germany and probably France (France has shittons of weebs per capita iirc). But it's also a shitty situation to be in for them. With the US and China it's fairly easy to get something going. You have one big nation that has a large population so getting one deal for that is pretty #worth. You even have english subs at that point that you can use for other countries like the UK etc. Whereas other european countries I'd assume just have to be a mess. You probably have to negotioate with a different company for every country and Denmark with its population of ~5.5million just (assumption on my part) isn't worth the effort at that point. Especially if the people in charge are some 50year olds that don't realize that we're fine with english subtitles and everyone thinks they need subtitles in german, in french and in every other language to stream it in the EU. That being said, if they realize that we're fine with english subtitles in the EU, even outside of the UK, and would just get some kind of EU-wide deal I could certainly see more money comming from people over here. Not sure if that's possible though. yea definitely depends on who gets the rights for each individual country. Why do old EU people believe they need their own country subs when English works fine for the weebs they are targeting. | ||
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Unleashing
Denmark14978 Posts
Also not every country in the europe is like the nordic countries/netherlands in regards to english proficiency. | ||
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ihatevideogames
570 Posts
On May 04 2017 00:55 Toadesstern wrote: Well to be fair if you ignore most parts of Europe and don't offer any kind of legal streaming because your "global" streaming in reality is nothing but US + UK + Australia + Canada (idk, am I forgetting something here?) you're not going to get a lot of people who are willing to pay for CR etc if you aren't able to see half of the stuff on CR in your country. There was a screenshot like that a bit earlier to showcase it (yes you can proxy but come on, at that point you might as well pirate). Now it obviously depends on which country we're talking about and I have to admit I haven't checked back on it ever since 2nd season of Railgun aired, which is years ago, but I'd assume it has gotten a bit better for the bigger countries like Germany and probably France (France has shittons of weebs per capita iirc). But it's also a shitty situation to be in for them. With the US and China it's fairly easy to get something going. You have one big nation that has a large population so getting one deal for that is pretty #worth. You even have english subs at that point that you can use for other countries like the UK etc. Whereas other european countries I'd assume just have to be a mess. You probably have to negotioate with a different company for every country and Denmark with its population of ~5.5million just (assumption on my part) isn't worth the effort at that point. Especially if the people in charge are some 50year olds that don't realize that we're fine with english subtitles and everyone thinks they need subtitles in german, in french and in every other language to stream it in the EU. That being said, if they realize that we're fine with english subtitles in the EU, even outside of the UK, and would just get some kind of EU-wide deal I could certainly see more money comming from people over here. Not sure if that's possible though. I think it's for different reasons. Anime is a bit more mainstream in those countries than in others. The mainstream crowds tend to stream because it's easier for them or because they don't know better. Any more dedicated fans will usually download their stuff. Countries that don't have huge anime communities are more likely get more dedicated fans in my experience and at that point, good luck getting people to pay for something that they used to get for free. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On May 04 2017 02:58 ihatevideogames wrote: I think it's for different reasons. Anime is a bit more mainstream in those countries than in others. The mainstream crowds tend to stream because it's easier for them or because they don't know better. Any more dedicated fans will usually download their stuff. Countries that don't have huge anime communities are more likely get more dedicated fans in my experience and at that point, good luck getting people to pay for something that they used to get for free. Dedicated fans are often the first to hop onto pay channels. Look at stuff like steam. | ||
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Lackbleeder
741 Posts
btw for people struggling to find alternatives to Nyaa try Shanaproject and Animetorrents.me, those two should cover most of what Nyaa had. On May 04 2017 03:12 Numy wrote: I actually think its just a money thing. The people that are involved in the dubbing lose a lot of money if suddenly people are fine with watching subs. Wonder how much push there is from that industry. I don't think so, Dubs are profitable because there's a shitton of people that don't like reading subtitles. It's just that said audience usually doesn't participate in online discussion (aside from facebook and streaming service's forums I guess) so they don't seem as numerous. On May 04 2017 03:12 Numy wrote: Dedicated fans are often the first to hop onto pay channels. Look at stuff like steam. And the ultra dedicated only accept physical. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
Just as an example. And I would assume that in that case Bakemonogatari isn't available on CR for Germany because someone else holds the rights. On May 04 2017 03:12 Numy wrote: I actually think its just a money thing. The people that are involved in the dubbing lose a lot of money if suddenly people are fine with watching subs. Wonder how much push there is from that industry. Dedicated fans are often the first to hop onto pay channels. Look at stuff like steam. I mean sure, that's probably also a thing. The people doing german dubs/subs won't be happy if people in Japan figure out that most people who watch anime in Germany are able to watch it with english subs and thus german dubbing/subbing stops aside from super popular kids stuff. It's just that I personally don't think such a patchwork solution with different companies for every country in the EU is good for JP itself and that if for example CR had a monopoly, or at least a catalogue similar to the US, a lot more people in the EU would be willing to pay for it. | ||
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ihatevideogames
570 Posts
Maybe if they put anime on steam... | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
it's still streaming and all but I don't really get the hate for streaming myself. It's not like netflix is a lot different if you compare it to CR while Steam is more like buying a series rather than buying a time-limited pass for everything in the catalogue but either way, netflix is crazy popular as well I personally dl all my anime but it's more a thing of convenience than disliking streaming for me. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
Visuals : great Music : great Story : We thought it was a nice story. | ||
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IceHism
United States1903 Posts
On May 04 2017 03:15 Lackbleeder wrote: btw for people struggling to find alternatives to Nyaa try Shanaproject and Animetorrents.me, those two should cover most of what Nyaa had. And the ultra dedicated only accept physical. I'm trying to find raw scans of novels and new official VN releases. Haven't found anything to replace nyaa yet for that... | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On May 04 2017 07:56 ihatevideogames wrote: And yet the most dedicated community I know is completely adamantly against streaming and therefore against CR. Maybe if they put anime on steam... doesn't matter, wouldn't use it. Personally, I think Steam is a lot more terrible than people think it is but w/e, don't want to open that conversation here. On a side note, latest SukaSuka episode was fantastic. Felt like SoL in a way but was also really emotional, loved it. I really hope we get more information on the past and the beasts etc... Akashic Records of Bastard Magic Instructor: really fun episode. My bet is + Show Spoiler + on that girl at the end attacking some of the soldiers chasing them or something. No way she's attacking him seeing as they worked together in the past and well, if she did, he probably just dodged and they "talked" quickly or something as is usual. | ||
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