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Deleted User 173346
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
16169 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-13 08:10:28
April 13 2017 07:45 GMT
#119781
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
April 13 2017 14:16 GMT
#119782
On April 13 2017 14:02 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 09:59 Sentenal wrote:
On April 13 2017 07:33 BurningSera wrote:
On April 12 2017 12:09 Sentenal wrote:
I forced myself to suffer through all of Cross Ange, but I finished it. But, on the plus side, that means I'm ready for this now:

[image loading]

Hopefully SRW will redeem Crange, since in the past, this series has managed to redeem crap like GSD.


nice, so nice!!! i need to get it as well but not before my brother's exams lol. it has chinese translation, superb.

The version I have is in english!

The Yamato in this game is pretty insane. Of all the SRW games I've played, I've never had my Battleship be my Top Ace lol


Idk why but it feels like they removed a lot of series when I checked the series included. No voltron, brain powered, zeorymer, laynzer, code geass, etc. Seems to have only got the classics with all Gundam up to unicorn, FMP, evangelion, mazenger, shingetter and nadesico. I guess they added Yamato and cross Ange but lmao.

The size of the roster is pretty normal for a SRW. Compared to something like Z3.2, or even Alpha 3, its smaller, but thats more because Z3.2 was the 5th game in that series, and Alpha 3 was the 4th.

Most of the ones you mentioned as missing aren't really regulars in SRW as it is. Only Code Geass was in there for Z3.2. The big new ones with SRW V are Yamato, Crange, Might Gaine, Crossbone (been absent a while), Hathway's Flash, Great Mazinger (Shin Great!!), and Mazinger Zero. Half the new stuff isn't drawn from anime, which is pretty rare for a SRW
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 13 2017 15:55 GMT
#119783
yo miragee i saw you finished xam'd

thoughts?
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8716 Posts
April 13 2017 17:36 GMT
#119784
On April 14 2017 00:55 Zergneedsfood wrote:
yo miragee i saw you finished xam'd

thoughts?


+ Show Spoiler +
I actually liked it quite a bit. The sci-fi was actually very well done, especially in the first half. The characters were mostly likable. The story was very gripping - I never got the feeling anything story-wise should have been disposed of. Animation and sound were top notch, I really enjoyed myself regarding those two!
However, I think it could have used a few more episodes. By the last third I felt like they tried to stuff in "too much" story relatively to how much time they had left. I think all the story-bits were needed but the world-building suffered from that. With a few more episodes they could have added more in-depth explanations to how human-forms work, the development of anti-human-form weapons, more backround to the Tessiks, their Xam'd cycle and the Xam'd "overlord, etc.pp. They could have used a bit more time for the story as well to soften the edges. It felt pretty rough at times because the pace was so damn high near the end. It also had a little bit too much of "hey, let's give every character an important role in the finale even if we have never talked about it before" for my taste.
Regarding the ending, I think they chose a really impactful ending but messed it up a little bit. To me it felt like they cut it during the most important point when Akiyuki gave away his self without showing any reactions. It was kind of a "that's it?"-moment. Then they swapped into the future and by the end of the episode Haru and Akiyuki just met again because reasons (because someone called his name or so yadayada). I might have missed something but that took a lot of the impact away for me. I think the stronger ending would have been without a time-skip but instead having an inner monolouge of Haru stating how she will wait for Akiyuki or something similar at the very end. Just leave it in the air whether they meet again or not. It also kind of took away from Nakiyami's sacrifice. I was much more attached to Nakiami than I was to Akiyuki, yet they decided to give more importance to Akiyuki's sacrifice.


What are yours?
Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
April 13 2017 19:09 GMT
#119785
Re-read OMK recently, still just as good as I remembered it to be aside from the translation quality. I didn't think my standards used to be that low when I first read OMK because the first dozen-ish chapters had such poor grammar that I had to re-read panels multiple times before I made sense of what was being said. I'm surprised how little it bothered old me but I guess that explains why it took me half a day to read it the first time (not that I'm a fast reader and I took a bunch of breaks but still)

There's also another thing that bothered me the first time around too but had completely forgotten about:
+ Show Spoiler [ OMK] +
Why did nobody ever ask Kurosawa why he masturbated over the girls stuff ? I know middleschoolers would usually rather talk shit behind people's back instead of finding out the truth but I figured at least Magister and Sugawa would've wanted to know. Maybe the LN epilogue has some answers about that (which I really should get around to reading)


Also read Molester Man since it's so frequently recommended along with OMK. I liked it and it was more fun that OMK but not as memorable imo. + Show Spoiler [ Molester Man] +
This manga is one of the funniest and most genuine things i've ever read (in terms of the MC's thought process atleast) so why did the second half have to be like some cliché love-triangle movie. I just wanted Molester and Kansai to hook up immediately after they had a chat at the restaurant and skip all the drama.
The most annoying thing is that I like all the characters and I don't hate anything about the second half of the story, my brain just refuses to believe something that cliché could happen IRL (especially not after the unique start it had).

Also I hope that the rumor of IRL Kansai cheating on IRL Molester is false and that they're married with 2 kids or I'm gonna kill myself.

Somebody once told me za warudo is gonna roll me
IceHism
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1903 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-13 19:57:24
April 13 2017 19:56 GMT
#119786
On April 13 2017 23:16 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 14:02 IceHism wrote:
On April 13 2017 09:59 Sentenal wrote:
On April 13 2017 07:33 BurningSera wrote:
On April 12 2017 12:09 Sentenal wrote:
I forced myself to suffer through all of Cross Ange, but I finished it. But, on the plus side, that means I'm ready for this now:

[image loading]

Hopefully SRW will redeem Crange, since in the past, this series has managed to redeem crap like GSD.


nice, so nice!!! i need to get it as well but not before my brother's exams lol. it has chinese translation, superb.

The version I have is in english!

The Yamato in this game is pretty insane. Of all the SRW games I've played, I've never had my Battleship be my Top Ace lol


Idk why but it feels like they removed a lot of series when I checked the series included. No voltron, brain powered, zeorymer, laynzer, code geass, etc. Seems to have only got the classics with all Gundam up to unicorn, FMP, evangelion, mazenger, shingetter and nadesico. I guess they added Yamato and cross Ange but lmao.

The size of the roster is pretty normal for a SRW. Compared to something like Z3.2, or even Alpha 3, its smaller, but thats more because Z3.2 was the 5th game in that series, and Alpha 3 was the 4th.

Most of the ones you mentioned as missing aren't really regulars in SRW as it is. Only Code Geass was in there for Z3.2. The big new ones with SRW V are Yamato, Crange, Might Gaine, Crossbone (been absent a while), Hathway's Flash, Great Mazinger (Shin Great!!), and Mazinger Zero. Half the new stuff isn't drawn from anime, which is pretty rare for a SRW


Huh, I have fond memories of alpha 3 so I guess that's why it felt underwhelming. Either way, I want a super long SRW with the rosters of every series that has appeared so far. That'd be fun imo. Banpresto needs to get on that. I just thought id expect more for a 25th annivarsary.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-13 20:09:51
April 13 2017 20:07 GMT
#119787
On April 14 2017 04:56 IceHism wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2017 23:16 Sentenal wrote:
On April 13 2017 14:02 IceHism wrote:
On April 13 2017 09:59 Sentenal wrote:
On April 13 2017 07:33 BurningSera wrote:
On April 12 2017 12:09 Sentenal wrote:
I forced myself to suffer through all of Cross Ange, but I finished it. But, on the plus side, that means I'm ready for this now:

[image loading]

Hopefully SRW will redeem Crange, since in the past, this series has managed to redeem crap like GSD.


nice, so nice!!! i need to get it as well but not before my brother's exams lol. it has chinese translation, superb.

The version I have is in english!

The Yamato in this game is pretty insane. Of all the SRW games I've played, I've never had my Battleship be my Top Ace lol


Idk why but it feels like they removed a lot of series when I checked the series included. No voltron, brain powered, zeorymer, laynzer, code geass, etc. Seems to have only got the classics with all Gundam up to unicorn, FMP, evangelion, mazenger, shingetter and nadesico. I guess they added Yamato and cross Ange but lmao.

The size of the roster is pretty normal for a SRW. Compared to something like Z3.2, or even Alpha 3, its smaller, but thats more because Z3.2 was the 5th game in that series, and Alpha 3 was the 4th.

Most of the ones you mentioned as missing aren't really regulars in SRW as it is. Only Code Geass was in there for Z3.2. The big new ones with SRW V are Yamato, Crange, Might Gaine, Crossbone (been absent a while), Hathway's Flash, Great Mazinger (Shin Great!!), and Mazinger Zero. Half the new stuff isn't drawn from anime, which is pretty rare for a SRW


Huh, I have fond memories of alpha 3 so I guess that's why it felt underwhelming. Either way, I want a super long SRW with the rosters of every series that has appeared so far. That'd be fun imo. Banpresto needs to get on that. I just thought id expect more for a 25th annivarsary.

I'm not incredibly far so far, but I'm enjoying it a lot. In terms of looks and gameplay, its a step up from Z3, and with it being in english, I can actually understand what everyone was saying! A bigger cast could feel overwhelming at this point, so I'm fine with the normal size.

Also Yamato is the hypest thing ever in this game. Its funny, Yamato can blast enemies off the map with its weakest gun, and then someone like Setsuna comes in hot in the 00 Qan[T], does his strongest TRANS AM AHHHHHHHHHHHH I AM GUNDAM atttack, does less damage than Yamato's AA guns lol
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 13 2017 21:19 GMT
#119788
On April 14 2017 02:36 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2017 00:55 Zergneedsfood wrote:
yo miragee i saw you finished xam'd

thoughts?


+ Show Spoiler +
I actually liked it quite a bit. The sci-fi was actually very well done, especially in the first half. The characters were mostly likable. The story was very gripping - I never got the feeling anything story-wise should have been disposed of. Animation and sound were top notch, I really enjoyed myself regarding those two!
However, I think it could have used a few more episodes. By the last third I felt like they tried to stuff in "too much" story relatively to how much time they had left. I think all the story-bits were needed but the world-building suffered from that. With a few more episodes they could have added more in-depth explanations to how human-forms work, the development of anti-human-form weapons, more backround to the Tessiks, their Xam'd cycle and the Xam'd "overlord, etc.pp. They could have used a bit more time for the story as well to soften the edges. It felt pretty rough at times because the pace was so damn high near the end. It also had a little bit too much of "hey, let's give every character an important role in the finale even if we have never talked about it before" for my taste.
Regarding the ending, I think they chose a really impactful ending but messed it up a little bit. To me it felt like they cut it during the most important point when Akiyuki gave away his self without showing any reactions. It was kind of a "that's it?"-moment. Then they swapped into the future and by the end of the episode Haru and Akiyuki just met again because reasons (because someone called his name or so yadayada). I might have missed something but that took a lot of the impact away for me. I think the stronger ending would have been without a time-skip but instead having an inner monolouge of Haru stating how she will wait for Akiyuki or something similar at the very end. Just leave it in the air whether they meet again or not. It also kind of took away from Nakiyami's sacrifice. I was much more attached to Nakiami than I was to Akiyuki, yet they decided to give more importance to Akiyuki's sacrifice.


What are yours?
+ Show Spoiler +
Very similar. I was definitely a lot more invested in Nakiami, and I think I put Akiyuki out of my mind for the last episode just because of how much I hadn't gotten over Nakiami's sacrifice. When Benikawa started crying, really felt bad since that relationship was probably one of my favorites in the show.

I think there's some merit in saying it had pretty meh pacing, but I think the reveals at the end were sparse enough not to matter. Like I don't think they ever had a moment where they dropped a fifteen minute knowledge bomb that explained everything, and I think whatever ambiguity remains is sort of "might've been nice to know, but not necessary."

Overall, I think the show's fantasy elements are really good, and I really like the pervasive theme on the topic of mothers and the relationship between child/parent (specifically mother) that sort of escalates and reveals itself through the series. I think it's something unique and we don't see it very often, but I think it was one of the instances where the theme really helps to inform and strengthen the drama so that it feels real and genuine. I never got the thought that a character was just some archetype of some form devoted to a very standardized purpose. There were your usual characters yes, but they all felt very visceral in terms of how they showed off their emotions and inhibitions.

Finally, I think the worldbuilding is really well done. For how much they devoted to characterization and drama, what else they did with the show was really cool.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-14 01:33:45
April 14 2017 01:33 GMT
#119789
On April 12 2017 12:09 Sentenal wrote:
I forced myself to suffer through all of Cross Ange, but I finished it. But, on the plus side, that means I'm ready for this now:

You didn't watch Cross Ange when it aired? Must've liked the mech at least

On April 13 2017 00:02 Nagisama wrote:
SaeKano: Katou-god with a ponytail this time!

SukaSuka: cause the actual title is way too long to type out. She's got long blue hair, a robe and wizard hat and a giant sword~! \o/.

SaeKano: You like cardboard-kun? lol.

SukaSuka: I think this is a potential AOTS depending on they approach it. Loved the first episode. Tiny drops of information, unknown world, mystery, likable characters and the kids were so cute lol. Really looking forward to the next episode!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-14 04:28:21
April 14 2017 04:26 GMT
#119790
On April 14 2017 10:33 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2017 12:09 Sentenal wrote:
I forced myself to suffer through all of Cross Ange, but I finished it. But, on the plus side, that means I'm ready for this now:

You didn't watch Cross Ange when it aired? Must've liked the mech at least

I dropped Cross Ange while it was airing, due to terribleness. SRW compelled me to finish. The Mecha action in that show was unimpressive, with a large dose of ugly CGI mecha, and lots annoying stock/reused footage. The Paramails themselves all had like just one single design with no variation other than color to them, and even then they were just painted to invoke memories from Gundam SEED and SEED Destiny (along with a million other references and cameos from SEED). Outside of character design and voice actors, there is very little good about that show.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Spazer
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada8036 Posts
April 14 2017 08:01 GMT
#119791
On April 14 2017 06:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2017 02:36 Miragee wrote:
On April 14 2017 00:55 Zergneedsfood wrote:
yo miragee i saw you finished xam'd

thoughts?


+ Show Spoiler +
I actually liked it quite a bit. The sci-fi was actually very well done, especially in the first half. The characters were mostly likable. The story was very gripping - I never got the feeling anything story-wise should have been disposed of. Animation and sound were top notch, I really enjoyed myself regarding those two!
However, I think it could have used a few more episodes. By the last third I felt like they tried to stuff in "too much" story relatively to how much time they had left. I think all the story-bits were needed but the world-building suffered from that. With a few more episodes they could have added more in-depth explanations to how human-forms work, the development of anti-human-form weapons, more backround to the Tessiks, their Xam'd cycle and the Xam'd "overlord, etc.pp. They could have used a bit more time for the story as well to soften the edges. It felt pretty rough at times because the pace was so damn high near the end. It also had a little bit too much of "hey, let's give every character an important role in the finale even if we have never talked about it before" for my taste.
Regarding the ending, I think they chose a really impactful ending but messed it up a little bit. To me it felt like they cut it during the most important point when Akiyuki gave away his self without showing any reactions. It was kind of a "that's it?"-moment. Then they swapped into the future and by the end of the episode Haru and Akiyuki just met again because reasons (because someone called his name or so yadayada). I might have missed something but that took a lot of the impact away for me. I think the stronger ending would have been without a time-skip but instead having an inner monolouge of Haru stating how she will wait for Akiyuki or something similar at the very end. Just leave it in the air whether they meet again or not. It also kind of took away from Nakiyami's sacrifice. I was much more attached to Nakiami than I was to Akiyuki, yet they decided to give more importance to Akiyuki's sacrifice.


What are yours?
+ Show Spoiler +
Very similar. I was definitely a lot more invested in Nakiami, and I think I put Akiyuki out of my mind for the last episode just because of how much I hadn't gotten over Nakiami's sacrifice. When Benikawa started crying, really felt bad since that relationship was probably one of my favorites in the show.

I think there's some merit in saying it had pretty meh pacing, but I think the reveals at the end were sparse enough not to matter. Like I don't think they ever had a moment where they dropped a fifteen minute knowledge bomb that explained everything, and I think whatever ambiguity remains is sort of "might've been nice to know, but not necessary."

Overall, I think the show's fantasy elements are really good, and I really like the pervasive theme on the topic of mothers and the relationship between child/parent (specifically mother) that sort of escalates and reveals itself through the series. I think it's something unique and we don't see it very often, but I think it was one of the instances where the theme really helps to inform and strengthen the drama so that it feels real and genuine. I never got the thought that a character was just some archetype of some form devoted to a very standardized purpose. There were your usual characters yes, but they all felt very visceral in terms of how they showed off their emotions and inhibitions.

Finally, I think the worldbuilding is really well done. For how much they devoted to characterization and drama, what else they did with the show was really cool.


+ Show Spoiler +
The highlight of the show is definitely the worldbuilding and maybe 1/4 of the cast. The actual plot was pretty meh by the end. It's a shame too, because the start was really strong.

I think it's really telling that Nakiami outshines Akiyuki so much despite Akiyuki's importance to the plot. The start was interesting because of how his desire to go home coupled with his Hiruko issues. The problem is, they never really followed up on that. Once he gets home, amnesia hits and he has to rediscover himself. Only... he doesn't. Haru just calls his name and he magically gets better. After that, he learns about people wanting to die, then he goes to fight the Emperor. Syncronizing with the Hiruko was all about self-acceptance, having a purpose and all that. What did Akiyuki learn about himself? That he wants to save people? That he wants to be with Haru? I'm just left scratching my head about his development. Akiyuki giving his name to the Emperor was pretty clever at least.

Furuichi was almost well done. His insecurities made sense. Problem is, his hatred was so intense it became comical. I do like how they ended his arc though - him committing suicide makes a lot of sense considering how he's basically lost everything.

Haru was confusing. Overall, it felt like she had no place in the plot whatsoever. At the start, she was developed nicely. However, once she joined the military, it kinda all fell apart. She joins to find Akiyuki, but then becomes a serious soldier, then becomes defiant, then escapes to actually find him. It was an awful lot of meandering for not much gain. I also hated the way the Midori sideplot got developed. It felt like an unnecessary addition.

The postal ship crew got forgotten. Raigyo and Isshu's fun time was pointless because neither of them were sufficiently developed for me to actually care. Isshu surviving was also rather contrived, and it was ultimately a rather pointless detail.

Nakiami is the best character because she is at once strong, lost, and she has an actual character arc. At the beginning she's just doing her thing on the postal ship. After meeting Akiyuki and doing various things, she finally makes up her mind to return to her village to face her past. Along the way, she picks up Yango, who just like her, is outwardly strong and inwardly weak. She helps him come to terms with his insecurities and he helps her with her own demons. Their relationship is by far the best one in the entire series, which is kinda funny considering they only had half the season to pull it off. Eventually, Nakiami realizes what she wants to do and pulls it off. A nice, clear arc.

Akiyuki's parents have a similarly good arc. They start the show estranged because of communication problems and misunderstandings. Despite loving each other, they have trouble opening up to one another, and it's not until they have to face the loss of their son that they finally start to reconcile. It's a minor subplot in the grand scheme of things, but it was honestly my favorite.

To me, it feels like they just didn't know what to do with a bunch of the characters, so they half-assed a resolution and called it a day. I don't think having more episodes would've helped them here.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-14 10:21:44
April 14 2017 10:19 GMT
#119792
On April 14 2017 17:01 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2017 06:19 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On April 14 2017 02:36 Miragee wrote:
On April 14 2017 00:55 Zergneedsfood wrote:
yo miragee i saw you finished xam'd

thoughts?


+ Show Spoiler +
I actually liked it quite a bit. The sci-fi was actually very well done, especially in the first half. The characters were mostly likable. The story was very gripping - I never got the feeling anything story-wise should have been disposed of. Animation and sound were top notch, I really enjoyed myself regarding those two!
However, I think it could have used a few more episodes. By the last third I felt like they tried to stuff in "too much" story relatively to how much time they had left. I think all the story-bits were needed but the world-building suffered from that. With a few more episodes they could have added more in-depth explanations to how human-forms work, the development of anti-human-form weapons, more backround to the Tessiks, their Xam'd cycle and the Xam'd "overlord, etc.pp. They could have used a bit more time for the story as well to soften the edges. It felt pretty rough at times because the pace was so damn high near the end. It also had a little bit too much of "hey, let's give every character an important role in the finale even if we have never talked about it before" for my taste.
Regarding the ending, I think they chose a really impactful ending but messed it up a little bit. To me it felt like they cut it during the most important point when Akiyuki gave away his self without showing any reactions. It was kind of a "that's it?"-moment. Then they swapped into the future and by the end of the episode Haru and Akiyuki just met again because reasons (because someone called his name or so yadayada). I might have missed something but that took a lot of the impact away for me. I think the stronger ending would have been without a time-skip but instead having an inner monolouge of Haru stating how she will wait for Akiyuki or something similar at the very end. Just leave it in the air whether they meet again or not. It also kind of took away from Nakiyami's sacrifice. I was much more attached to Nakiami than I was to Akiyuki, yet they decided to give more importance to Akiyuki's sacrifice.


What are yours?
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Very similar. I was definitely a lot more invested in Nakiami, and I think I put Akiyuki out of my mind for the last episode just because of how much I hadn't gotten over Nakiami's sacrifice. When Benikawa started crying, really felt bad since that relationship was probably one of my favorites in the show.

I think there's some merit in saying it had pretty meh pacing, but I think the reveals at the end were sparse enough not to matter. Like I don't think they ever had a moment where they dropped a fifteen minute knowledge bomb that explained everything, and I think whatever ambiguity remains is sort of "might've been nice to know, but not necessary."

Overall, I think the show's fantasy elements are really good, and I really like the pervasive theme on the topic of mothers and the relationship between child/parent (specifically mother) that sort of escalates and reveals itself through the series. I think it's something unique and we don't see it very often, but I think it was one of the instances where the theme really helps to inform and strengthen the drama so that it feels real and genuine. I never got the thought that a character was just some archetype of some form devoted to a very standardized purpose. There were your usual characters yes, but they all felt very visceral in terms of how they showed off their emotions and inhibitions.

Finally, I think the worldbuilding is really well done. For how much they devoted to characterization and drama, what else they did with the show was really cool.


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The highlight of the show is definitely the worldbuilding and maybe 1/4 of the cast. The actual plot was pretty meh by the end. It's a shame too, because the start was really strong.

I think it's really telling that Nakiami outshines Akiyuki so much despite Akiyuki's importance to the plot. The start was interesting because of how his desire to go home coupled with his Hiruko issues. The problem is, they never really followed up on that. Once he gets home, amnesia hits and he has to rediscover himself. Only... he doesn't. Haru just calls his name and he magically gets better. After that, he learns about people wanting to die, then he goes to fight the Emperor. Syncronizing with the Hiruko was all about self-acceptance, having a purpose and all that. What did Akiyuki learn about himself? That he wants to save people? That he wants to be with Haru? I'm just left scratching my head about his development. Akiyuki giving his name to the Emperor was pretty clever at least.

Furuichi was almost well done. His insecurities made sense. Problem is, his hatred was so intense it became comical. I do like how they ended his arc though - him committing suicide makes a lot of sense considering how he's basically lost everything.

Haru was confusing. Overall, it felt like she had no place in the plot whatsoever. At the start, she was developed nicely. However, once she joined the military, it kinda all fell apart. She joins to find Akiyuki, but then becomes a serious soldier, then becomes defiant, then escapes to actually find him. It was an awful lot of meandering for not much gain. I also hated the way the Midori sideplot got developed. It felt like an unnecessary addition.

The postal ship crew got forgotten. Raigyo and Isshu's fun time was pointless because neither of them were sufficiently developed for me to actually care. Isshu surviving was also rather contrived, and it was ultimately a rather pointless detail.

Nakiami is the best character because she is at once strong, lost, and she has an actual character arc. At the beginning she's just doing her thing on the postal ship. After meeting Akiyuki and doing various things, she finally makes up her mind to return to her village to face her past. Along the way, she picks up Yango, who just like her, is outwardly strong and inwardly weak. She helps him come to terms with his insecurities and he helps her with her own demons. Their relationship is by far the best one in the entire series, which is kinda funny considering they only had half the season to pull it off. Eventually, Nakiami realizes what she wants to do and pulls it off. A nice, clear arc.

Akiyuki's parents have a similarly good arc. They start the show estranged because of communication problems and misunderstandings. Despite loving each other, they have trouble opening up to one another, and it's not until they have to face the loss of their son that they finally start to reconcile. It's a minor subplot in the grand scheme of things, but it was honestly my favorite.

To me, it feels like they just didn't know what to do with a bunch of the characters, so they half-assed a resolution and called it a day. I don't think having more episodes would've helped them here.
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Yea, I think if they had minimized the cast, or at least given less attention to some of the characters, it would've helped. Like I feel like giving less screen time to the guy who crushes on Nakiami, the guy Isshu keeps calling fat, and a couple of other people would help to ensure that people knew these were just side/static characters that are there just to be there. For the most part, I think they did that well, but they had a serious case of E7 when they try to focus on people like Nakiami's sister and try to give her a part. I think her design was cool and I think it served a purpose, but it had its fair share of problems because there just wasn't time to give her an actual story.

Yea Akiyuki's parents were great. Definitely my favorite part of the story apart from Nakiami/Isshu and how their relationship is just tragically understated because that's kind of the point (feelsbad). For his parents, I love their interactions together and they felt like real parents. Maybe it's because we don't really see parents a lot in anime. A lot of times they're either dead or just MIA, so we don't get the opportunity to see how an anime really portrays two parents who are just seriously worried about their kid and their marriage.

For Haru....I really hated her the first time I saw her. I think she kind of grew on me the second time around. I can't really explain why, but I think she slotted in more nicely to how I thought the story was trying to tell everything rather than being pointlessly abrasive to the plot and just all around boring. Maybe I thought her emotions were more genuine this time around.
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Last Edited: 2017-04-14 10:34:45
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#119793
Should change the anichart link on top to anichart.net instead of anichart.net/winter since anichart.net defaults to the current season.
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
April 14 2017 11:46 GMT
#119794
I love you ils
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Korea (South)17743 Posts
April 14 2017 11:50 GMT
#119795
<3
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 14 2017 19:27 GMT
#119796
On April 14 2017 13:26 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 14 2017 10:33 BigFan wrote:
On April 12 2017 12:09 Sentenal wrote:
I forced myself to suffer through all of Cross Ange, but I finished it. But, on the plus side, that means I'm ready for this now:

You didn't watch Cross Ange when it aired? Must've liked the mech at least

I dropped Cross Ange while it was airing, due to terribleness. SRW compelled me to finish. The Mecha action in that show was unimpressive, with a large dose of ugly CGI mecha, and lots annoying stock/reused footage. The Paramails themselves all had like just one single design with no variation other than color to them, and even then they were just painted to invoke memories from Gundam SEED and SEED Destiny (along with a million other references and cameos from SEED). Outside of character design and voice actors, there is very little good about that show.

SRW? Well, ya, it was a single mech with different colors lol. Surprising that you still put up with it if you dropped it the first time.
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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-04-14 19:40:24
April 14 2017 19:39 GMT
#119797
SRW V is the game I was talking about in the post you quoted. And I've watched worse lol. *shudders*
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
April 14 2017 20:11 GMT
#119798
Anyone know where I can read Quan Zhi Gao Shou?

On April 15 2017 04:39 Sentenal wrote:
SRW V is the game I was talking about in the post you quoted. And I've watched worse lol. *shudders*

ah I see. Let me guess, valvrave?

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Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
April 14 2017 20:23 GMT
#119799
Sure, but there is even more bottom of the barrel stuff that that.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Unleashing
Profile Joined March 2011
Denmark14978 Posts
April 14 2017 20:23 GMT
#119800
Valvrave might legit be the worst mecha show i have watched, not entirely sure but i don't think it's far off.
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