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goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
August 24 2015 10:51 GMT
#104241
On August 24 2015 19:48 Numy wrote:
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On August 24 2015 19:46 goody153 wrote:
i would draw a lot of Haruhi Suzumiya, Cat, Bat, Crab, Snake and maybe some other Waifu of the months from romcom's we love


That's why I started drawing. To praise the greatest waifu around but alas that may take another 20 years before I'm not garbage. At least Kizu should be out by then

20 years from now there'd be wayyy too many waifu's to adore .. since we have to include the older ones if we don't we are disrespecting them

kizu in 20 yrs HEHE great jokes numy realll funny
this is a quote
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 24 2015 10:58 GMT
#104242
I don't just add randoms to the waifu pool just because. I think I've only added one in like 5 years which isn't even from anime but a LN(Shinjou you so good just cuddle me pls). Dam goody do you have no conviction! Stick to your waifus.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
August 24 2015 11:01 GMT
#104243
I'll never leave them Numy (as a result Haruhi still my #1) but we may never know how many toptier waifu's will show themselves in years to come !
this is a quote
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 13:25:09
August 24 2015 13:23 GMT
#104244
I don't see many surpassing the Crab,Shiki,Vamp,Cyborg barrier though. I guess I could start having shit taste which would change things.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 24 2015 13:52 GMT
#104245
You like crab and shiki but not tosaka?
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 14:17:43
August 24 2015 14:12 GMT
#104246
Rin is in love with a complete moron. Can't forgive that. At least Araragi is just a perv. I also don't particularly like tsunderes.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 14:32:57
August 24 2015 14:32 GMT
#104247
Araragi is way more idealistic, and more moronic. I mean, he is the one who goes "I don't make friends because friends make your character weak", and most monogatari arcs are direct result of him doing something incredibly dumb.

Also, Rin never acted like tsundere in UBW. Went directly skeptical > tease > love, basically same thing as crab.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8629 Posts
August 24 2015 14:46 GMT
#104248
On August 24 2015 23:32 ragz_gt wrote:
Araragi is way more idealistic, and more moronic. I mean, he is the one who goes "I don't make friends because friends make your character weak", and most monogatari arcs are direct result of him doing something incredibly dumb.

Also, Rin never acted like tsundere in UBW. Went directly skeptical > tease > love, basically same thing as crab.


Uhm, even when they were basically together she still was like "no we can't do this, we can't do that" over little things that are normal for couples.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 14:49:34
August 24 2015 14:48 GMT
#104249
Comparing Araragi to Shirou is like comparing morons. They both just dumb. Crab just happens to be worlds ahead of Rin though. Well any tsundere would be better not being a tsundere in my books so if you remove the object of tsundereness then they become way better.. Rin could be really good if she wasn't a secondary character in a story with Shirou. Fuck that guy geez. He's almost as shit a character as Touma.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 15:13:46
August 24 2015 15:10 GMT
#104250
On August 24 2015 23:46 Miragee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 23:32 ragz_gt wrote:
Araragi is way more idealistic, and more moronic. I mean, he is the one who goes "I don't make friends because friends make your character weak", and most monogatari arcs are direct result of him doing something incredibly dumb.

Also, Rin never acted like tsundere in UBW. Went directly skeptical > tease > love, basically same thing as crab.


Uhm, even when they were basically together she still was like "no we can't do this, we can't do that" over little things that are normal for couples.


Um... they are 16... of course they are acting different from couples that are 26

On August 24 2015 23:48 Numy wrote:
Comparing Araragi to Shirou is like comparing morons. They both just dumb. Crab just happens to be worlds ahead of Rin though. Well any tsundere would be better not being a tsundere in my books so if you remove the object of tsundereness then they become way better.. Rin could be really good if she wasn't a secondary character in a story with Shirou. Fuck that guy geez. He's almost as shit a character as Touma.


Outside of Fate route (and original anime), Shirou doesn't even register on shit character scale. Funny thing with your hate for tsundere, Shiki is like the most tsundere tsundere there has been for some time.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8629 Posts
August 24 2015 15:12 GMT
#104251
On August 25 2015 00:10 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2015 23:46 Miragee wrote:
On August 24 2015 23:32 ragz_gt wrote:
Araragi is way more idealistic, and more moronic. I mean, he is the one who goes "I don't make friends because friends make your character weak", and most monogatari arcs are direct result of him doing something incredibly dumb.

Also, Rin never acted like tsundere in UBW. Went directly skeptical > tease > love, basically same thing as crab.


Uhm, even when they were basically together she still was like "no we can't do this, we can't do that" over little things that are normal for couples.


Um... they are 16... of course they are acting different from couples that are 26


What. Shirou is acting completely different. It's mostly him suggesting things or someone else mentioning something that turns into Tohsaka flipping out.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 24 2015 15:14 GMT
#104252
Wait what??! That sentence made no sense to me
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
August 24 2015 15:26 GMT
#104253
How is Shiki a tsundere? Are you talking about Ryougi Shiki? If so I feel there is a massive gulf of disconnect between what you think a tsundere is and what I think a tsundere is. Then calling her the most tsundere tsundere there has been just makes my brain explode. You must be talking about someone else.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 24 2015 15:32 GMT
#104254
Yes, Ryougi Shiki. I don't think you are understanding tsundere correctly.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 15:34:39
August 24 2015 15:33 GMT
#104255
Then grace us with your correct definition of a tsundere. The world where Shiki is the most tsundere tsundere in the past 8 years and Rin is not a tsundere.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 15:40:00
August 24 2015 15:39 GMT
#104256
Someone who is conflicted and have trouble accept / display affection in a straightforward way, which Rin never really shown in UBW but Shiki shows all the time. Rin knows exactly what she likes and doesn't like and act accordingly. On the other hand, satsujin kousatsu part 1 is basically "tsundere 101"
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8629 Posts
August 24 2015 15:40 GMT
#104257
On August 25 2015 00:14 ragz_gt wrote:
Wait what??! That sentence made no sense to me


Yeah, it was worded pretty badly by me. What I meant was that Tohsaka was acting tsundere-like/flipping out over a) things Shirou suggested and b) over things other characters said while Shirou was acting in a "normal" way.
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
August 24 2015 15:41 GMT
#104258
Flipping out has nothing to do with tsundere though, she get mad at Luvia for bugging Shirou is the opposite of tsundere.
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-24 15:46:22
August 24 2015 15:45 GMT
#104259
On August 25 2015 00:39 ragz_gt wrote:
Someone who is conflicted and have trouble accept / display affection in a straightforward way, which Rin never really shown in UBW but Shiki shows all the time. Rin knows exactly what she likes and doesn't like and act accordingly. On the other hand, satsujin kousatsu part 1 is basically "tsundere 101"


That definition is so broad it covers almost every trope. You also can't take the very first movie(Chronologically) as your reasoning but then discard the other routes and merely say she's not tsundere in UBW.

Tsundere to me requires the character to attack or take out her inability to deal with her own emotions on the person she likes. That only ever really happens at the earliest point due to the complications with SHIKI and Shiki. She becomes more kuu than tsun. Tsundere has to do the whole "hot/cold" thing with there person. That's the core defining feature.

Really your definition of tsundere seems to be so vague and unlike any other definition of tsundere.
Miragee
Profile Joined December 2009
8629 Posts
August 24 2015 16:03 GMT
#104260
On August 25 2015 00:41 ragz_gt wrote:
Flipping out has nothing to do with tsundere though, she get mad at Luvia for bugging Shirou is the opposite of tsundere.


That wasn't what I was talking about though...
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