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On August 24 2015 19:48 Numy wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2015 19:46 goody153 wrote: i would draw a lot of Haruhi Suzumiya, Cat, Bat, Crab, Snake and maybe some other Waifu of the months from romcom's we love That's why I started drawing. To praise the greatest waifu around but alas that may take another 20 years before I'm not garbage. At least Kizu should be out by then 20 years from now there'd be wayyy too many waifu's to adore .. since we have to include the older ones if we don't we are disrespecting them
kizu in 20 yrs HEHE great jokes numy realll funny
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I don't just add randoms to the waifu pool just because. I think I've only added one in like 5 years which isn't even from anime but a LN(Shinjou you so good just cuddle me pls). Dam goody do you have no conviction! Stick to your waifus.
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I'll never leave them Numy (as a result Haruhi still my #1) but we may never know how many toptier waifu's will show themselves in years to come !
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I don't see many surpassing the Crab,Shiki,Vamp,Cyborg barrier though. I guess I could start having shit taste which would change things.
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You like crab and shiki but not tosaka?
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Rin is in love with a complete moron. Can't forgive that. At least Araragi is just a perv. I also don't particularly like tsunderes.
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Araragi is way more idealistic, and more moronic. I mean, he is the one who goes "I don't make friends because friends make your character weak", and most monogatari arcs are direct result of him doing something incredibly dumb.
Also, Rin never acted like tsundere in UBW. Went directly skeptical > tease > love, basically same thing as crab.
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On August 24 2015 23:32 ragz_gt wrote: Araragi is way more idealistic, and more moronic. I mean, he is the one who goes "I don't make friends because friends make your character weak", and most monogatari arcs are direct result of him doing something incredibly dumb.
Also, Rin never acted like tsundere in UBW. Went directly skeptical > tease > love, basically same thing as crab.
Uhm, even when they were basically together she still was like "no we can't do this, we can't do that" over little things that are normal for couples.
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Comparing Araragi to Shirou is like comparing morons. They both just dumb. Crab just happens to be worlds ahead of Rin though. Well any tsundere would be better not being a tsundere in my books so if you remove the object of tsundereness then they become way better.. Rin could be really good if she wasn't a secondary character in a story with Shirou. Fuck that guy geez. He's almost as shit a character as Touma.
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On August 24 2015 23:46 Miragee wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2015 23:32 ragz_gt wrote: Araragi is way more idealistic, and more moronic. I mean, he is the one who goes "I don't make friends because friends make your character weak", and most monogatari arcs are direct result of him doing something incredibly dumb.
Also, Rin never acted like tsundere in UBW. Went directly skeptical > tease > love, basically same thing as crab. Uhm, even when they were basically together she still was like "no we can't do this, we can't do that" over little things that are normal for couples.
Um... they are 16... of course they are acting different from couples that are 26
On August 24 2015 23:48 Numy wrote: Comparing Araragi to Shirou is like comparing morons. They both just dumb. Crab just happens to be worlds ahead of Rin though. Well any tsundere would be better not being a tsundere in my books so if you remove the object of tsundereness then they become way better.. Rin could be really good if she wasn't a secondary character in a story with Shirou. Fuck that guy geez. He's almost as shit a character as Touma.
Outside of Fate route (and original anime), Shirou doesn't even register on shit character scale. Funny thing with your hate for tsundere, Shiki is like the most tsundere tsundere there has been for some time.
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On August 25 2015 00:10 ragz_gt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 24 2015 23:46 Miragee wrote:On August 24 2015 23:32 ragz_gt wrote: Araragi is way more idealistic, and more moronic. I mean, he is the one who goes "I don't make friends because friends make your character weak", and most monogatari arcs are direct result of him doing something incredibly dumb.
Also, Rin never acted like tsundere in UBW. Went directly skeptical > tease > love, basically same thing as crab. Uhm, even when they were basically together she still was like "no we can't do this, we can't do that" over little things that are normal for couples. Um... they are 16... of course they are acting different from couples that are 26
What. Shirou is acting completely different. It's mostly him suggesting things or someone else mentioning something that turns into Tohsaka flipping out.
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Wait what??! That sentence made no sense to me
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How is Shiki a tsundere? Are you talking about Ryougi Shiki? If so I feel there is a massive gulf of disconnect between what you think a tsundere is and what I think a tsundere is. Then calling her the most tsundere tsundere there has been just makes my brain explode. You must be talking about someone else.
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Yes, Ryougi Shiki. I don't think you are understanding tsundere correctly.
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Then grace us with your correct definition of a tsundere. The world where Shiki is the most tsundere tsundere in the past 8 years and Rin is not a tsundere.
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Someone who is conflicted and have trouble accept / display affection in a straightforward way, which Rin never really shown in UBW but Shiki shows all the time. Rin knows exactly what she likes and doesn't like and act accordingly. On the other hand, satsujin kousatsu part 1 is basically "tsundere 101"
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On August 25 2015 00:14 ragz_gt wrote: Wait what??! That sentence made no sense to me
Yeah, it was worded pretty badly by me. What I meant was that Tohsaka was acting tsundere-like/flipping out over a) things Shirou suggested and b) over things other characters said while Shirou was acting in a "normal" way.
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Flipping out has nothing to do with tsundere though, she get mad at Luvia for bugging Shirou is the opposite of tsundere.
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On August 25 2015 00:39 ragz_gt wrote: Someone who is conflicted and have trouble accept / display affection in a straightforward way, which Rin never really shown in UBW but Shiki shows all the time. Rin knows exactly what she likes and doesn't like and act accordingly. On the other hand, satsujin kousatsu part 1 is basically "tsundere 101"
That definition is so broad it covers almost every trope. You also can't take the very first movie(Chronologically) as your reasoning but then discard the other routes and merely say she's not tsundere in UBW.
Tsundere to me requires the character to attack or take out her inability to deal with her own emotions on the person she likes. That only ever really happens at the earliest point due to the complications with SHIKI and Shiki. She becomes more kuu than tsun. Tsundere has to do the whole "hot/cold" thing with there person. That's the core defining feature.
Really your definition of tsundere seems to be so vague and unlike any other definition of tsundere.
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On August 25 2015 00:41 ragz_gt wrote: Flipping out has nothing to do with tsundere though, she get mad at Luvia for bugging Shirou is the opposite of tsundere.
That wasn't what I was talking about though...
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