Anime Discussion Thread - Page 5054

Seems like the board of education is way too quick with exterminations. I mean, mamarou is average overall yet they wanted to kill him? For what? Just cause he may become a fiend (looking at his personality etc...). There was no way he should be marked for killing because of an 'if'. It's pretty much kill a few to save many but the last fiend incident was 245 years ago and the people in charge have no freaking clue about it other than what is found in books (not much). Fear breeds immoral actions? I would say its immoral what they are doing.

The whole hypnotizing thing as well. Talk about a society that is controlled way too much. No such thing as true freedom imo if you can't remember what they don't want you to remember, can't venture outside certain barriers etc... education wasn't enough I guess. The whole fear aspect of that society is terrible. I'm still waiting to find out what happened to Saki's sister. Having no regard for human life pisses me off. Why not find alternative methods to prevent people from becoming fiends or karma demons? Besides, it's all due to cantus. Why not just seal it for everyone except for the few elite and have them with the death triggers? Heck, seal it for everyone and live like, you know, normal people?

Thought this will be like the village but its much more complex than that. The other thing that bothers me is those copycats. With cantus, they can be killed. We saw Saki kill one of them easily (she was caught offguard when it first attacked her), so, are they really that fearsome? It feels to me like its their reputation and stories that make them more of a concern except for weaker cantus users or being caught off guard. I really hope we don't see anyone else die but my gut feeling tells me that only Saki will remain alive after all of this (or at least, with Satoru).

They will explain a lot more about why things the way they are in the later episodes. The society is definitely very Dystopian disguised as Utopian, quite the irony. It's hard for us to agree with a lot of their actions because their situation is quite different from us. I think it's best people find their methodology disturbing but there is a real degree of pragmatism to it. They live in a very dangerous world and people will do strange things to maintain their vision of safety and order in the world.

yes, I look forward to finding out more details about society and how things are done etc... Yes, of course, I agree with your point, however, is it really that different? You can find examples that mimic their fears in current society if you look at how things are going. It's not even a bit disturbing, rather, it's very very disturbing to me. I value human life greatly and feel that killing someone just because they aren't great at cantus or *may* have a chance at being a fiend or karma demon is not right or fair to the individual.

As mentioned, those who make these decisions (though ethical committee can also do it) haven't even been exposed to either type of fear, it's just the possibility that scares them. What makes it worse is how tight lipped they are about the whole situation. Probably want to avoid scaring the kids since it seems that parents know about how things are done. Yes, safety is pretty important but as I mentioned above, you can technically seal the cantus for everyone to fix the problem. It's just that people have become so reliant on it that they can't seem to do stuff without it. Anyways, without watching more, can't say much else and I feel that I'm still missing quite a bit of information and I just rehased most of my previous points lol.

Funny how both handling food shortage at the point I'm watching.^^

Well, if you take a closer look at our society you can see similar things but in a way less oppressive way. Controlling society behind the curtains of politics, causing fear/fearing themselves etc. has been part of our society for a long time now. SSY depicts those things extreme and exaggerated manner. But at it's core it just takes the natural will of the human race to protect themselves (from anyone, including themselves) a few steps further in an extreme situation. The cantus problem kinda reminded me of the atomic bomb problem/cold war (I don't remember if it wasn't even referenced in the episode where they met the walking library or if my thoughts are getting mixed up with my memories). Both have the potential to erase the human race from the world in the blink of an eye. Yet the cantus is probably a lot more dangerous because a lot of people have it. It's not an item that can be controlled by a few in order to assure safety. It's also pretty apparent that the dystopian society in SSY handles themselves pretty similar in this regard - as if they were items.
I think the human race would go very far to protect themselves, depending on the situation they are in. That's what's so scary about SSY: While it is extreme and very abstract it certainly seems possible for humanity to go that far (doesn't mean in the same way) if put into a similar situation. Not everyone values a single human life as much as you do, that much is clear from human action all around the world, be it terrorists, ploticians or simple men.

As for the comitee: Yes they haven't been exposed to it directly. Yet history told them so and their society is build on that foundation for a thousand years. A thousand years is a long time. A lot can change but a lot can also stuck with society. Traditions are often kept even if historical knowledge is lost over time.

I could say a lot more but I think the show should give you some thoughts first.

As for the committee, there are some very real reasons for certain actions they take even if they themselves don't really know the reasons. That becomes more apparent later on in the show.

I understand everything you are saying. It's extreme but seems to have helped. Cantus can't be easily controlled and showed be reserved for only the elite. The value of a human life is a bit subjective in the anime and that fear due to history can cause prophylactic actions to be taken. I can't write more without seeing what else they have in store for me lol