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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
September 03 2014 20:10 GMT
#82601
Wait. How does saying that a character is one of the better ones make any sense when you are excluding another 11?
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 20:45:56
September 03 2014 20:10 GMT
#82602
On September 04 2014 03:28 V0ren wrote:
How is Relena in any possible way even close to being a decent character. She is one of the worst fucking characters ever created, shit in every possible way, all she really does is complain and whine about peace.

Yeah I get it, you just hate the stereotype.

She has the personality of a dead fish

Those words have literally zero value untill you tell me the object you are comparing Relena with.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
ragz_gt
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
9172 Posts
September 03 2014 20:11 GMT
#82603
On September 04 2014 04:53 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 03:43 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2014 01:49 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
>second best-main girl after Chris, Turn A / GBF excluded
>less likeable or/and developed than + Show Spoiler +
Sayla/Mirai/Fa/Beltorchicka/Tiffa/Aina/Cecily/Shakti/Nina/Lacus/Quess/...

Casual taste status confirmed.

You are kidding, right? Sure, some people here are exaggerating how bad she is, but still.

People can't read, right? Unless anyone names 3 (for starters, because everyone here sound like Relena is complete unsalvagable trash) better main love interests that haven't been mentioned in previous post, I don't get the complaints.

@ragz_qt, don't spread the Lacus cancer, please.


3 better love interest than Relena? Toaster, potato, ran over bento box
I'm not an otaku, I'm a specialist.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
September 03 2014 20:15 GMT
#82604
On September 04 2014 05:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:

Show nested quote +
She has the personality of a dead fish

Those words have literally zero value untill you tell me the object you are comparing Relena with.


he did tell you the object he is comparing relena with

[image loading]
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 20:20:06
September 03 2014 20:16 GMT
#82605
On September 04 2014 05:11 ragz_gt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 04:53 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
On September 04 2014 03:43 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2014 01:49 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
>second best-main girl after Chris, Turn A / GBF excluded
>less likeable or/and developed than + Show Spoiler +
Sayla/Mirai/Fa/Beltorchicka/Tiffa/Aina/Cecily/Shakti/Nina/Lacus/Quess/...

Casual taste status confirmed.

You are kidding, right? Sure, some people here are exaggerating how bad she is, but still.

People can't read, right? Unless anyone names 3 (for starters, because everyone here sound like Relena is complete unsalvagable trash) better main love interests that haven't been mentioned in previous post, I don't get the complaints.

@ragz_qt, don't spread the Lacus cancer, please.


3 better love interest than Relena? Toaster, potato, ran over bento box

Sorry bro, I am trying to have a discussion right here.

On September 04 2014 05:15 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 05:10 ForTehDarkseid wrote:

She has the personality of a dead fish

Those words have literally zero value untill you tell me the object you are comparing Relena with.


he did tell you the object he is comparing relena with

[image loading]

I guess smart guys expect others to like them when they throw bland explanations "It's shit because I said so" without actual analysis and comparing pattern.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
September 03 2014 20:22 GMT
#82606
I'm not really sure how goody and I joking around caused this shitshow but I am rather impressed. Continue.
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
September 03 2014 20:24 GMT
#82607
I am still baffled at the logic of calling someone second best but less developed than 11 other characters.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 20:36:59
September 03 2014 20:30 GMT
#82608
On September 04 2014 05:24 Ecael wrote:
I am still baffled at the logic of calling someone second best but less developed than 11 other characters.

That's the joke. Most of mentioned characters are boring obnoxious trash with zero character development happened through entire series and nothing more than plot devices in general.

I think better of people who are arguing with me, so I don't ask them to try and prove why any of them should be considered better character than Relena, but ragz already tried it, lol, so I'll just wait for Sent's and V0ren's response.


I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
September 03 2014 20:35 GMT
#82609
Yamada really peddling that yaoi demographic.
It's your boy Guzma!
Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
September 03 2014 20:35 GMT
#82610
Haa...all I am learning is that /m has some pretty warped perspective on things, not that Sent was not already a walking example.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 20:46:38
September 03 2014 20:41 GMT
#82611
On September 04 2014 05:35 Ecael wrote:
Haa...all I am learning is that /m has some pretty warped perspective on things, not that Sent was not already a walking example.

People at /m are damn well used to elaborate their opinions and yeah we really hate some things like every imageboard in existence does.

As for most main female characters being bad, well that's Gundam's thing. There are still great/likeable ones, and most of them are enemies or secondary supports in case you are interested.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Kaal
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Djibouti2570 Posts
September 03 2014 20:58 GMT
#82612
Wow are you serious?

Relena Peacecraft aka Oh my god you turn me on with your robotic eyes heero pls kill me aka I want to fuck my brother in the ass aka I become a sex slave to my butch eyebrows cousin aka Heeeeeeroooooooooooo.

She's such an annoying character. She doesn't do anything fun or dramatic just bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch the whole show. And she's your favorite?
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 21:14:27
September 03 2014 21:05 GMT
#82613
>she's your favorite?
No, she isn't.

>She's such an annoying character.
Was based on Sayla after all, what else do you expect.

>just bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch the whole show.
That's rather misogynistic or/and bloodthirsty point of view. But the whole point was that people denied her having personality and character development, therefore called her out being "one of most shittest characters in franchise", not being rather uncomfortable to watch/agree with one.
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
September 03 2014 21:11 GMT
#82614
This whole argument is pointless because the entire Gundam Wing show is best kept locked in the basement of the Gundam family mansion.
Never Knows Best.
ForTehDarkseid
Profile Joined April 2013
8139 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 21:16:57
September 03 2014 21:16 GMT
#82615
On September 04 2014 06:11 Slaughter wrote:
This whole argument is pointless because the entire Gundam Wing show is best kept locked in the basement of the Gundam family mansion.

Are you UC-only elitist type of fan?
I think their strategy is to dumpster bad Western teams (c) uriel
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 21:22:22
September 03 2014 21:20 GMT
#82616
^ He's saying its best discussed among shows that are similar (from what I understand) or just ignored all together lol.

entertaining discussion though I enjoyed Relena's presence. She tried to strive for peace trying whatever way she can even though she can be a bit annoying at times. Having said that, I don't plan to compare her to anyone else ^^
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 21:23:00
September 03 2014 21:22 GMT
#82617
On September 04 2014 04:53 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 04 2014 03:43 Sentenal wrote:
On September 04 2014 01:49 ForTehDarkseid wrote:
>second best-main girl after Chris, Turn A / GBF excluded
>less likeable or/and developed than + Show Spoiler +
Sayla/Mirai/Fa/Beltorchicka/Tiffa/Aina/Cecily/Shakti/Nina/Lacus/Quess/...

Casual taste status confirmed.

You are kidding, right? Sure, some people here are exaggerating how bad she is, but still.

People can't read, right? Unless anyone names 3 (for starters, because everyone here sound like Relena is complete unsalvagable trash) better main love interests that haven't been mentioned in previous post, I don't get the complaints.

@ragz_qt, don't spread the Lacus cancer, please.

First off, why does it have to be a "love interest"? Best girl doesn't have to be confined to "best main love interest of the MC". But if you simply want that, rather than Gundam girls in general (in which I could give you many upon which I think are better), then. Of those you mentioned, Relena is probaby better than like... Beltorchika and Quess. If you just want main love interests of the MC who I think are better, that you didn't name, Raine, Roux, and Mineva.

Ragz had it about right, that Relena has all of Lacus' worst traits, and none of her good ones. I don't think shes anywhere close to "the worst girl ever", or even "worst girl in gundam" (since that would go to people like Nina Purpleton or Reccoa), but she definitely is pretty far from 2nd best girl.

On September 04 2014 06:20 BigFan wrote:
entertaining discussion though I enjoyed Relena's presence. She tried to strive for peace trying whatever way she can even though she can be a bit annoying at times. Having said that, I don't plan to compare her to anyone else ^^

See, even more proof that Relena sucks.

BTW BigFan, which Gundam anime do you think Relena came from?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
AwayFromLife
Profile Joined August 2011
United States441 Posts
September 03 2014 21:22 GMT
#82618
The anime community seems to have this sort of mindset that I don't see in many other circles. It's like some sort of pseudo-hipsterism, where once something is old/well known enough, it can't be enjoyable.

Is Wing the best show ever? It's not even the best Gundam. But it's not as shitty as people are making it out to be. Most anime fans are just so sick of hearing about popular/nostalgic shows that they just end up looking at their flaws and bitching about them any time they are brought up, even if they are enjoyable in other ways or were even once beloved by the very people that hate it now.

But it's not really hipsterism, because past a certain point pretty much the entire anime community takes that mindset against whatever show it is and suddenly the show that got so much praise and acceptance when it first came out can only be enjoyed by people watching it for the first time, and any "long time" anime fan immediately scoffs at the mention of it.

Internet.
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
September 03 2014 21:23 GMT
#82619
On September 04 2014 06:22 AwayFromLife wrote:
The anime community seems to have this sort of mindset that I don't see in many other circles. It's like some sort of pseudo-hipsterism, where once something is old/well known enough, it can't be enjoyable.

Is Wing the best show ever? It's not even the best Gundam. But it's not as shitty as people are making it out to be. Most anime fans are just so sick of hearing about popular/nostalgic shows that they just end up looking at their flaws and bitching about them any time they are brought up, even if they are enjoyable in other ways or were even once beloved by the very people that hate it now.

But it's not really hipsterism, because past a certain point pretty much the entire anime community takes that mindset against whatever show it is and suddenly the show that got so much praise and acceptance when it first came out can only be enjoyed by people watching it for the first time, and any "long time" anime fan immediately scoffs at the mention of it.

Internet.


....what
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-09-03 21:25:51
September 03 2014 21:25 GMT
#82620
On September 04 2014 06:22 AwayFromLife wrote:
The anime community seems to have this sort of mindset that I don't see in many other circles. It's like some sort of pseudo-hipsterism, where once something is old/well known enough, it can't be enjoyable.

Is Wing the best show ever? It's not even the best Gundam. But it's not as shitty as people are making it out to be. Most anime fans are just so sick of hearing about popular/nostalgic shows that they just end up looking at their flaws and bitching about them any time they are brought up, even if they are enjoyable in other ways or were even once beloved by the very people that hate it now.

But it's not really hipsterism, because past a certain point pretty much the entire anime community takes that mindset against whatever show it is and suddenly the show that got so much praise and acceptance when it first came out can only be enjoyed by people watching it for the first time, and any "long time" anime fan immediately scoffs at the mention of it.

Internet.

I kinda see what you mean not that I fully agree with the idea that everything old gets scoffed off For what it's worth, I liked Wing and watched it more than any other anime atm even Toradora so ya lol
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
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