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On July 05 2014 09:42 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 09:26 Ecael wrote:This is completely unrelated, but I saw a comment about GoT and growth of Sansa.
While I am not going to deny that's the case. You are dead to me.On July 05 2014 09:26 Slaughter wrote:
What about Mira Nikki for him or like Death Note.
I am continuing with Spice and Wolf nu starting S2 and I really like this show. Hop on irc so I can yell at you. I...wha?? I'm struggling to respond to this...is it because I'm dead now?Anyways... Finished Toradora...I really enjoyed it. I hate when ppl use the term "emotional roller coaster" b/c I've heard it misused a lot, but this show definitely had that feel for me. up and down and up and down...like every time a sad episode or piece of the story completed, the next is happy and funny. The comedy in this was alright, not super good but still well done, and well placed...I found myself tearing up from something and then bursting out laughing a number of times throughout the show. Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 14:25 Slaughter wrote:
I am wondering how Ryuhou)aS( will feel about Toradora's last 3-4 episodes. Basically all my criticism of my show is centered in how the author handled it. Did a similar thing in Golden Time too but not as bad. I'm curious about what your criticism on those episodes is now that i've watched them. Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 05:02 Slaughter wrote:Also don't be a Bigfan and say you will watch it but then just watch the 1st couple of episodes then keep saying "I will finish it later but I have other stuff that I want to finish 1st" as you casually add more and more stuff to watch ahead of it.  No worries, I'll at least finish it. (unless i dont like it in which case i'll drop after 1 or 2 ep and never watch again  ) So, Bakemonogatari here I come!
lol
Anyways for me the last few episodes felt somewhat underwhelming. + Show Spoiler +I don't remember much of toradora now but pretty sure the drama near the end didn't sit well with me. It felt a little forced.
On July 05 2014 09:48 Sentenal wrote:
I still don't see why people care so much about what Bigfan does or doesn't watch.
He has hilarious reviews ? no ? maybe it has something to do about him liking stuff almost everything he sees ? no ?
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Bigfan is a people pleaser. I don't see how thats hilarious, since all his views are getting filtered through his "try to make everyone happy" filter
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On July 05 2014 09:50 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:
Well, It's not that I'm a fan of Sansa, in fact she's like my least favorite character in the whole series BUT in recognizing the development of my least favorite character, it gives me an even stronger appreciation for the series as a whole, and the ingenious mind that created it.
Hmm that's a different matter I guess, though the development of Sansa is kind of like the development of your standard shit anime beta protagonist. If you start at the very bottom you pretty much have nowhere else left to go but up.
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On July 05 2014 07:34 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 05:16 XenOmega wrote:Why hate Sidonia animation? I loved it! @bigfan : Already finished? wowowow. I'm trying to find some time to watch but not enough time  yes, I loved Sidonia's animation as well after I got over how the characters were animated (felt a bit odd but ok otherwise). LOL. ya, I finished 3 days back. Terra e in under 2 days, maybe 36 hours or so. Not that much considering it's only 24 episodes lol. You just gotta make time to watch it then! :D Did help that we had Canada Day as well so I had more time :D Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 07:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 05 2014 07:21 Toadesstern wrote:
His main criticism about deathnote and SNK is that in the first one the MC just doesn't get his shit together and acts like a whiney little bitch instead of just getting over it
Oh and he liked Evangelion
??? lol yes, I was wondering about that part as well XD Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:idk man other stuff I'm hearing right now: - He hates Naruto
- OnePiece was "meh"
- he hates emotionless girls à la mikasa from SnK
- he hates completly overexcited MC's à la SnL
maybe you should just chose a random anime from the list above and just give it to them. See what his reaction is lol.
Hue
On another note :
Shirogane no Ishi: Argevollen : Was fine until the MC (?) unlocked a new robot.
Is there a mech anime where there are no op robots? Where both evil + bad guys are fairly equipped?
Tokyo Ghoul : I loved the manga. I'm loving the anime so far! So bloodyyyyyy
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On July 05 2014 09:56 XenOmega wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 07:34 BigFan wrote:On July 05 2014 05:16 XenOmega wrote:Why hate Sidonia animation? I loved it! @bigfan : Already finished? wowowow. I'm trying to find some time to watch but not enough time yes, I loved Sidonia's animation as well after I got over how the characters were animated (felt a bit odd but ok otherwise). LOL. ya, I finished 3 days back. Terra e in under 2 days, maybe 36 hours or so. Not that much considering it's only 24 episodes lol. You just gotta make time to watch it then! :D Did help that we had Canada Day as well so I had more time :D On July 05 2014 07:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 05 2014 07:21 Toadesstern wrote:
His main criticism about deathnote and SNK is that in the first one the MC just doesn't get his shit together and acts like a whiney little bitch instead of just getting over it
Oh and he liked Evangelion
??? lol yes, I was wondering about that part as well XD On July 05 2014 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:idk man other stuff I'm hearing right now: - He hates Naruto
- OnePiece was "meh"
- he hates emotionless girls à la mikasa from SnK
- he hates completly overexcited MC's à la SnL
maybe you should just chose a random anime from the list above and just give it to them. See what his reaction is lol. Hue On another note : Shirogane no Ishi: Argevollen : Was fine until the MC (?) unlocked a new robot. Is there a mech anime where there are no op robots? Where both evil + bad guys are fairly equipped?Tokyo Ghoul : I loved the manga. I'm loving the anime so far! So bloodyyyyyy
Uhh, yes? Tons of them.
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The op-ness in Argvollen isn't going to last anyways. As per the usual mecha opening, they must first display how op it is, then introduce a skilled villain with an op suit who can beat/match the mc. The real question is how long it'll take them to do that.
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Ecael why are you going to yell at me
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On July 05 2014 10:44 Slaughter wrote:Ecael why are you going to yell at me
My first thought to seeing anyone who likes spicy wolf is to yell at them.
Though I think the author has realized by this point that all he can actually write is furry moe.
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On July 05 2014 07:44 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 07:34 BigFan wrote:[...] On July 05 2014 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:idk man other stuff I'm hearing right now: - He hates Naruto
- OnePiece was "meh"
- he hates emotionless girls à la mikasa from SnK
- he hates completly overexcited MC's à la SnL
maybe you should just chose a random anime from the list above and just give it to them. See what his reaction is lol. That's pretty much my approach and the reason for saying I'll try out Steins;Gate on him. I'm pretty certain he won't like Madoka, he doesn't like Naruto/One Piece, he probably won't like Fairy Tail. I don't think he's made for sports anime with that "no overexcited kid pls" statement and I can't really recommend TTGL with the other stuff he said but want to stay in the casual area. So Steins;Gate by process of elimination so far
sounds like a plan. Hope you keep us informed! :D
On July 05 2014 09:42 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 09:26 Ecael wrote:This is completely unrelated, but I saw a comment about GoT and growth of Sansa.
While I am not going to deny that's the case. You are dead to me.On July 05 2014 09:26 Slaughter wrote:
What about Mira Nikki for him or like Death Note.
I am continuing with Spice and Wolf nu starting S2 and I really like this show. Hop on irc so I can yell at you. I...wha?? I'm struggling to respond to this...is it because I'm dead now? Anyways... Finished Toradora...I really enjoyed it. I hate when ppl use the term "emotional roller coaster" b/c I've heard it misused a lot, but this show definitely had that feel for me. up and down and up and down...like every time a sad episode or piece of the story completed, the next is happy and funny. The comedy in this was alright, not super good but still well done, and well placed...I found myself tearing up from something and then bursting out laughing a number of times throughout the show. Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 14:25 Slaughter wrote:
I am wondering how Ryuhou)aS( will feel about Toradora's last 3-4 episodes. Basically all my criticism of my show is centered in how the author handled it. Did a similar thing in Golden Time too but not as bad. I'm curious about what your criticism on those episodes is now that i've watched them. Show nested quote +On July 04 2014 05:02 Slaughter wrote:Also don't be a Bigfan and say you will watch it but then just watch the 1st couple of episodes then keep saying "I will finish it later but I have other stuff that I want to finish 1st" as you casually add more and more stuff to watch ahead of it. No worries, I'll at least finish it. (unless i dont like it in which case i'll drop after 1 or 2 ep and never watch again ) So, Bakemonogatari here I come!
great to see you have enjoyed Toradora. I believe the criticism was: + Show Spoiler +as I recall, after things seemed to be falling apart and such, Ryuji and Taiga decided to just run away and get married and a lot of people felt it was way too sudden and childish. Then after that, Taiga just left out of the blue though I can understand her wanting to fix things with her family first and get their blessings before they actually got married. That happened also rather fast but I think it was the whole marriage thing that people criticized. I chucked it down to them being young, inexperienced and irrational when they were put in such a situation. Thoughts?
On July 05 2014 09:55 Sentenal wrote:
Bigfan is a people pleaser. I don't see how thats hilarious, since all his views are getting filtered through his "try to make everyone happy" filter
nope, not true lol. I merely watch anime that I feel I might like and somehow end up finding something I like in most of them whether it's a specific character, the story, mech, the drama etc... If I was a people pleaser, I would've watched bake in a day or two and wrote an essay about how it's the best ever lol. Would've also said that I loved FMP to death
On July 05 2014 09:56 XenOmega wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 07:34 BigFan wrote:On July 05 2014 05:16 XenOmega wrote:Why hate Sidonia animation? I loved it! @bigfan : Already finished? wowowow. I'm trying to find some time to watch but not enough time yes, I loved Sidonia's animation as well after I got over how the characters were animated (felt a bit odd but ok otherwise). LOL. ya, I finished 3 days back. Terra e in under 2 days, maybe 36 hours or so. Not that much considering it's only 24 episodes lol. You just gotta make time to watch it then! :D Did help that we had Canada Day as well so I had more time :D On July 05 2014 07:26 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:On July 05 2014 07:21 Toadesstern wrote:
His main criticism about deathnote and SNK is that in the first one the MC just doesn't get his shit together and acts like a whiney little bitch instead of just getting over it
Oh and he liked Evangelion
??? lol yes, I was wondering about that part as well XD On July 05 2014 07:32 Toadesstern wrote:idk man other stuff I'm hearing right now: - He hates Naruto
- OnePiece was "meh"
- he hates emotionless girls à la mikasa from SnK
- he hates completly overexcited MC's à la SnL
maybe you should just chose a random anime from the list above and just give it to them. See what his reaction is lol. Hue On another note : Shirogane no Ishi: Argevollen : Was fine until the MC (?) unlocked a new robot. Is there a mech anime where there are no op robots? Where both evil + bad guys are fairly equipped? Tokyo Ghoul : I loved the manga. I'm loving the anime so far! So bloodyyyyyy
lol I didn't mean it that way
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On July 05 2014 09:32 Zergneedsfood wrote:
I agree with Sent. If you don't know what you like...you honestly shouldn't complain when people rec you things. >.>
Especially when it sounds like the person will just reject everything recommended based on a limited amount of knowledge (i.e., read synopsis and watch first episode and reject it). Rejection at an early stage is fine, but I'm not sure he's familiar enough with most of the tropes to get an accurate feel at this point.
Also, most of those reasons listed for not liking a show easily applies to the shows he does like. If he's not going to be consistent with his claimed tastes and stick to ad hoc justification, then there's little point in doing so much work for nothing.
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On July 05 2014 08:48 Zergneedsfood wrote:
You're going to rec him Steins;Gate when there's Mayuri in it?
Toad pls
TU TU RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
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TLADT24920 Posts
Could've missed it but anyone here watched Locodol?
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Spice and Wolf is fun. Things can be fun even if there iisn't much there. Plus Holo.
Will probably pick up the novels too.
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On July 05 2014 12:18 Slaughter wrote:
Spice and Wolf is fun. Things can be fun even if there iisn't much there. Plus Holo.
Will probably pick up the novels too.
If you are just looking for character interaction, sure, except there are better stuff out there anyway. Then there is the technical aspect of it that's kind of rage inducing in how bad it is, so author stops bothering with it at some point according to ragz.
There are definitely things where the process and the character interaction carries the day and makes the whole thing good, spicy wolf isn't one of those. If all you want is moe furry flirting with Fukujun though, then you can watch basically where Koshimizu and Fukujun have roles that interact and get pretty much the same thing. At which point I suggest you just learn JP and listen to radio shows, because that's a lot better talking there and no need to try to fit in some subpar plot. All with nothing happening.
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Tokyo ghoul #1 looks really promising, very nice! I can see that they will go very close with the original manga artstyle which is awesome. That ED gives me a strong PP vibe lol damn singer.
Kaneki is so 'cute' back then, knowing that he has been struggling since the very beginning and + Show Spoiler +became strong as fuck later
+ Show Spoiler [big spoiler] +the girl is not dead. dont feel bad if you think she is dead because the writer tried very hard on persuading us dead and i dont think we will see her again in season1 anyway or unless this season is huge
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The first season of Spice and Wolf was fine, anyway. I didn't watch the second because as a general rule of thumb I don't like studio changes (and it's a rule I'm breaking since Sengoku BASARA's third season is a different studio but screw the rules I love me some gay color coordinated samurai action) but there was nothing wrong with the anime from what I saw. Maybe in the LNs it drags or goes nowhere, but the character interaction in the first season was charming.
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Well, S1 covered iirc...2 vols? Ended with the shepherd right. By S2 it was pretty suspect to say the least and the vols right after it killed me. The source did magically drag out to 15 vols so yeah.
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On July 05 2014 11:53 BigFan wrote:great to see you have enjoyed Toradora. I believe the criticism was: + Show Spoiler +as I recall, after things seemed to be falling apart and such, Ryuji and Taiga decided to just run away and get married and a lot of people felt it was way too sudden and childish. Then after that, Taiga just left out of the blue though I can understand her wanting to fix things with her family first and get their blessings before they actually got married. That happened also rather fast but I think it was the whole marriage thing that people criticized. I chucked it down to them being young, inexperienced and irrational when they were put in such a situation. Thoughts?
+ Show Spoiler [toradora] + Well that was kind of the point to me. They wanted to show that these two that finally found their love for each other wanted to be together so badly that they would drop everything to run away and get married even though it was really childish to run away like that. Then it goes on to show that their not that naive and childish, i think it was hinting at Ryujii figuring it out that they didn't need to run away together, and they could just finish school and move on with their lives together and that would be the adult thing to do. THEN with his mother running away it reiterated that even adults act childish and selfish (like Taiga's father did earlier in the show and like her mother did with the voicemails she left taiga when they ran away together.)
One of the biggest themes of this show to me was "you can't run away from your problems you gotta face them head on, even if it'll hurt" and they're just reinforcing it over and over again at the end. And i think that they both got over their fears in numerous areas by the end to face their problems (Ryujii with his mother wanting him to go to college, and learning that his father left his mother when she was pregnant, his Mother finally admitting to him that his father wasn't really that great and through meeting up with her parents again after she ran away so long ago, and Taiga with giving her mother another chance, and both of them with finally admitting their love for each other)
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On July 05 2014 12:36 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 12:18 Slaughter wrote:
Spice and Wolf is fun. Things can be fun even if there iisn't much there. Plus Holo.
Will probably pick up the novels too. If you are just looking for character interaction, sure, except there are better stuff out there anyway. Then there is the technical aspect of it that's kind of rage inducing in how bad it is, so author stops bothering with it at some point according to ragz. There are definitely things where the process and the character interaction carries the day and makes the whole thing good, spicy wolf isn't one of those. If all you want is moe furry flirting with Fukujun though, then you can watch basically where Koshimizu and Fukujun have roles that interact and get pretty much the same thing. At which point I suggest you just learn JP and listen to radio shows, because that's a lot better talking there and no need to try to fit in some subpar plot. All with nothing happening.
Well I didn't even watch it in Japanese though I watched it in English.
On July 05 2014 13:32 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 11:53 BigFan wrote:great to see you have enjoyed Toradora. I believe the criticism was: + Show Spoiler +as I recall, after things seemed to be falling apart and such, Ryuji and Taiga decided to just run away and get married and a lot of people felt it was way too sudden and childish. Then after that, Taiga just left out of the blue though I can understand her wanting to fix things with her family first and get their blessings before they actually got married. That happened also rather fast but I think it was the whole marriage thing that people criticized. I chucked it down to them being young, inexperienced and irrational when they were put in such a situation. Thoughts? + Show Spoiler [toradora] + Well that was kind of the point to me. They wanted to show that these two that finally found their love for each other wanted to be together so badly that they would drop everything to run away and get married even though it was really childish to run away like that. Then it goes on to show that their not that naive and childish, i think it was hinting at Ryujii figuring it out that they didn't need to run away together, and they could just finish school and move on with their lives together and that would be the adult thing to do. THEN with his mother running away it reiterated that even adults act childish and selfish (like Taiga's father did earlier in the show and like her mother did with the voicemails she left taiga when they ran away together.)
One of the biggest themes of this show to me was "you can't run away from your problems you gotta face them head on, even if it'll hurt" and they're just reinforcing it over and over again at the end. And i think that they both got over their fears in numerous areas by the end to face their problems (Ryujii with his mother wanting him to go to college, and learning that his father left his mother when she was pregnant, his Mother finally admitting to him that his father wasn't really that great and through meeting up with her parents again after she ran away so long ago, and Taiga with giving her mother another chance, and both of them with finally admitting their love for each other)
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My main problem with Toradora was the complete and utter way the show zapped all the side characters agency to have them become people who ship the main couple, even though none of them actually wanted to. But nope even when it was up in the air everyone just gave up their personal wishes to say "YOU GO GUYS! MAKE BAD DECISIONS and BE TOGETHER. Also the running away thing was forced drama that just came off as silly. That author has a habit of saying "fuck you" to side characters in her stories and Toradora is one of the strongest examples of that.
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Argevollen: + Show Spoiler +seems ok so far, nothing amazing. I think I watched some mech anime that had a similar function: think what you want to do to get it done.
On July 05 2014 13:32 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 11:53 BigFan wrote:great to see you have enjoyed Toradora. I believe the criticism was: + Show Spoiler +as I recall, after things seemed to be falling apart and such, Ryuji and Taiga decided to just run away and get married and a lot of people felt it was way too sudden and childish. Then after that, Taiga just left out of the blue though I can understand her wanting to fix things with her family first and get their blessings before they actually got married. That happened also rather fast but I think it was the whole marriage thing that people criticized. I chucked it down to them being young, inexperienced and irrational when they were put in such a situation. Thoughts? + Show Spoiler [toradora] + Well that was kind of the point to me. They wanted to show that these two that finally found their love for each other wanted to be together so badly that they would drop everything to run away and get married even though it was really childish to run away like that. Then it goes on to show that their not that naive and childish, i think it was hinting at Ryujii figuring it out that they didn't need to run away together, and they could just finish school and move on with their lives together and that would be the adult thing to do. THEN with his mother running away it reiterated that even adults act childish and selfish (like Taiga's father did earlier in the show and like her mother did with the voicemails she left taiga when they ran away together.)
One of the biggest themes of this show to me was "you can't run away from your problems you gotta face them head on, even if it'll hurt" and they're just reinforcing it over and over again at the end. And i think that they both got over their fears in numerous areas by the end to face their problems (Ryujii with his mother wanting him to go to college, and learning that his father left his mother when she was pregnant, his Mother finally admitting to him that his father wasn't really that great and through meeting up with her parents again after she ran away so long ago, and Taiga with giving her mother another chance, and both of them with finally admitting their love for each other)
+ Show Spoiler +see, that's the thing. Upfront, it seemed odd and I can understand why people criticized them for it but to me, I felt like they didn't want to lose each other (love each other a lot) but also wanted to fix their problems first (Taiga at min though Ryuji did eventually face his mom as well) which is why I didn't really see it as much of a problem in the show. They thought things through, decided on what was best to do and picked things back up (I hear) right after graduation was finished so they learned responsibility as well as a host of other things. What I'm saying is, yes, I agree with you 100% lol. Only thing I would've liked the anime to do is just go further into their life, after graduation, what happens to them. I guess something similar to Itazura na Kiss where they showed their future careers, raising a family etc... I guess also similar to Clannad's approach and ending. Apart from that, maybe more details on Taiga leaving and that whole gap until she came back but ya, still one of the better romcoms I've seen 
On July 05 2014 13:43 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On July 05 2014 13:32 Ryuhou)aS( wrote:On July 05 2014 11:53 BigFan wrote:great to see you have enjoyed Toradora. I believe the criticism was: + Show Spoiler +as I recall, after things seemed to be falling apart and such, Ryuji and Taiga decided to just run away and get married and a lot of people felt it was way too sudden and childish. Then after that, Taiga just left out of the blue though I can understand her wanting to fix things with her family first and get their blessings before they actually got married. That happened also rather fast but I think it was the whole marriage thing that people criticized. I chucked it down to them being young, inexperienced and irrational when they were put in such a situation. Thoughts? + Show Spoiler [toradora] + Well that was kind of the point to me. They wanted to show that these two that finally found their love for each other wanted to be together so badly that they would drop everything to run away and get married even though it was really childish to run away like that. Then it goes on to show that their not that naive and childish, i think it was hinting at Ryujii figuring it out that they didn't need to run away together, and they could just finish school and move on with their lives together and that would be the adult thing to do. THEN with his mother running away it reiterated that even adults act childish and selfish (like Taiga's father did earlier in the show and like her mother did with the voicemails she left taiga when they ran away together.)
One of the biggest themes of this show to me was "you can't run away from your problems you gotta face them head on, even if it'll hurt" and they're just reinforcing it over and over again at the end. And i think that they both got over their fears in numerous areas by the end to face their problems (Ryujii with his mother wanting him to go to college, and learning that his father left his mother when she was pregnant, his Mother finally admitting to him that his father wasn't really that great and through meeting up with her parents again after she ran away so long ago, and Taiga with giving her mother another chance, and both of them with finally admitting their love for each other) + Show Spoiler +
My main problem with Toradora was the complete and utter way the show zapped all the side characters agency to have them become people who ship the main couple, even though none of them actually wanted to. But nope even when it was up in the air everyone just gave up their personal wishes to say "YOU GO GUYS! MAKE BAD DECISIONS and BE TOGETHER. Also the running away thing was forced drama that just came off as silly. That author has a habit of saying "fuck you" to side characters in her stories and Toradora is one of the strongest examples of that.
+ Show Spoiler [Toradora] +hmm well, yes, some of the side characters got shafted but in Minori's case, she saw her best friend heartbroken in the middle of the night and such. Can't really blame her for wanting Taiga to get with Ryuji after that. You can say that the author purposely did that and it's kinda obvious lol but that's part of the story.
Ami never really stood a chance even though she had a change of heart because he just wasn't interested in her and wasn't looking in her direction even though she tried for a bit to get his attention. Considering that Ami wasn't going to get with him, is it really that farfetched to think that she would help Taiga instead? They were friends by that point so not surprising to me.
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