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Oh well not like I'm sentenal and care enough to debate with strangers over the internet any more  . Romance shoujo's are a whole different thing imo and they don't really exist any more, none of the newer "romance/drama" shows I watched come close to being like Kare Kano or Hana even if Hana is fucking weird. Now days it's just comedies with some romance added to them like Toradora. I guess White Album 2 is the best example of a good romance but that's based off a hentai novel so idk how that works.
Just finished Lovely Complex, it actually ended before I knew it, I thought I had more episodes left and turned out I watched them all lol :|. The ending didn't suck as much as I thought it would but still not that great, would rate it above Tora but almost anything would get that rating really lol. Decent if you like your comedies to have some romance sparkled here and there.
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You're using stuff that aren't even shoujo to discredit shoujo. You cite Toradora, a romcom, when romcoms are supposed to be exactly what you are complaining "newer romance/drama" are like and cite White Album, which is not a romcom but a drama, as proof of a good romance/drama. Things are called romcom or drama for a reason. If people are allowed to change definitions and classifications to suit their arguments, why bother discussing anything. Ironically, you'd probably find stuff you like more if you learned how labels work.
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On December 11 2013 16:13 TanKLoveR wrote:Oh well not like I'm sentenal and care enough to debate with strangers over the internet any more . Romance shoujo's are a whole different thing imo and they don't really exist any more, none of the newer "romance/drama" shows I watched come close to being like Kare Kano or Hana even if Hana is fucking weird. Now days it's just comedies with some romance added to them like Toradora. I guess White Album 2 is the best example of a good romance but that's based off a hentai novel so idk how that works.
This isn't even a debate. It's a straight up word that you're using incorrectly.
And Toradora/White Album aren't shoujo.
So please stop using certain words until you actually know what works are even ascribed to them. Like I wouldn't say this if you weren't using them in a discussion that could potentially be misleading to people and you yourself could probably benefit from learning the term to better search out things you like. Saying something like "Lovely Complex" isn't shoujo is just wrong. It's considered shoujo because that's the target audience.
It also doesn't help that your assertion that the only "true" shoujo is heavy in the romance department, which most people who read shoujo manga will tell you....that's just empirically false. There's a great deal of things that aren't "70% romance" or whatever.
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No idea why people are even arguing about this. Shoujo/shounen/seinen/whatever the other was are words to describe the target audiance. Rom/Com/Drama/Action/whatever-you-want-to-put-here are words to describe the genre. Neither are they related (except for coincidental cases) nor are they supposed to.
It's like talking about vehicles and you say you like cars (read: shoujo) more than bikes because cars are more likely to be red (read: romance) just because you saw a bunch of ferraris and really liked them.
That being said, it might even be true that there're more red cars than red bikes, who knows, but if you go to a buy a car it'd be better to tell the guy you want something red instead of telling him that you like cars and hope it'll turn out red.
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On December 11 2013 07:05 Ecael wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 06:43 Dark_Chill wrote:Madoka Magica movie was kind of confusing in the end. + Show Spoiler +I don't get how Homura pulled apart a law with, not a wish like Madoka used to become a law, but... love? And I have no idea if Madoka is a God or a law, because those are pretty different. Still, found it to be a good movie. iirc she is a god made by the law, or something to that extent. Madoka only gets more confusing if you try to think about it anyway, just take everything at their face value and don't think and it might preserve a certain level of sense.
If I understand correctly, Madoka becomes basically a god and decides to reconstruct the world such that magical girls disappear at the end of their lives rather than becoming witches. Since nobody in this world besides Homura remembers Madoka, this unexplained phenomenon of disappearing magical girls is referred to everyone else as the Law of Cycle.
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On December 12 2013 02:27 iaeuy wrote:Show nested quote +On December 11 2013 07:05 Ecael wrote:On December 11 2013 06:43 Dark_Chill wrote:Madoka Magica movie was kind of confusing in the end. + Show Spoiler +I don't get how Homura pulled apart a law with, not a wish like Madoka used to become a law, but... love? And I have no idea if Madoka is a God or a law, because those are pretty different. Still, found it to be a good movie. iirc she is a god made by the law, or something to that extent. Madoka only gets more confusing if you try to think about it anyway, just take everything at their face value and don't think and it might preserve a certain level of sense. If I understand correctly, Madoka becomes basically a god and decides to reconstruct the world such that magical girls disappear at the end of their lives rather than becoming witches. Since nobody in this world besides Homura remembers Madoka, this unexplained phenomenon of disappearing magical girls is referred to everyone else as the Law of Cycle.
Well, she created the system of rescuing mahou shoujo and became kind of the...manifestation? I guess? of the said system. Which hosts the conglomerate of Madoka and all the magical girls that the system rescued. The movie made it even messier though, thus my point of just abandoning actually thinking about it.
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Good episode of NNB. I guess we finally realize why she's called Candy Lady rofl. Seeing those flashbacks was great for explaining Ren's magical powers of persuasion :D
On December 11 2013 03:12 Ecael wrote:
What's with people wanting more Arpeggio when it is going down the overdone machine wanting to become human route with the anime, and not even doing it particularly well at that.
I can't answer it specifically but I'm enjoying the story so far. Good pace, love the music and seeing the boats gain more humanity (slowly or fast in some cases) is interesting. You almost forget that they are boats sometimes XD The animation is not that bad either. There was a scene or two that could use work but one of the better ones imo. Story could be more complex like I hear the manga is but just decent all around 
On December 10 2013 21:06 BurningSera wrote:WTF is the Arpeggio team up to D: at this stage i cant tell if the show is good or not with all these anime original stuffs, but i dont like what i am seeing at all. Poor Kongo and + Show Spoiler +if they really killed off Takao then they are retarded. The series will only have 12 episodes so probably it was just a way to throw in some story before that (that dying scene feels forceful), the show should end with they are heading to americaland etc. + Show Spoiler +Takao should be fine -_- Maybe even better, now that we have IonaXTakao, physically lol. Gunpla so blood pumping T_T so good. is like a TransAm2.0 lol.
+ Show Spoiler +doubt they'll kill her or rather I hope they didn't. No Takao is bad for this anime >.> I mean, ok, there's 2 episodes left I think(hoping for 2nd season!!!!!) but I'm sure they must've seen the manga and decided to maintain some things. I'm not familiar with the manga but far as I know, at least so far, she hasn't died yet(captured or something). I think they know she's a draw and will find a way to bring her back. Who knows, maybe Kongo will bring her back and stick to just being a core now that everything has been taken away from her(losing her ship or control(not sure which one lol) and Maya).
On December 10 2013 23:57 elt wrote:+ Show Spoiler [Arpeggio 10] +Did Arpeggio get enough pre-sales to guarantee a second season or reboot from this 'bad end' or something? I mean I know we went complete anime original, but they're in the middle of the sea, nowhere near America and being hounded by 400 and 402. That said I would laugh so freaking hard if the near death experience makes Gunzo re-live Facility 4 in ep11 and then ep12 ends the season with + Show Spoiler [minor manga?] + turning up. I mean... Someone has to turn up to take responsibility of 400 and 402 right?
+ Show Spoiler +I have no clue if they did. I think the manga is doing ok but speculation on my part. ya, it doesn't make sense to make it to the US and finish in two episodes at all but who knows. Maybe they are planning on a second cour? I want more! lol.
Not sure what facility 4 is but if it's from the manga, I'll wait to find out(from anime if or manga). Well, I don't know much about who takes responsibility(aside from some name I heard, yamato) but I think it should be in there for sure. It doesn't make sense to me that 400 and 402 which are just submarines (can only guess bottom class of ships) gave orders and stripped Kongo of her flagship position(and ship?). I would hope they have someone/something take responsibility.
If they plan on 12 episodes only, they will likely stick to just having Iona beat 400 and 402 then get to America and end it with some future that everything is working out. On the other hand, with another cour, I can see them having Iona beat 400 and 402 only to have this yamato fellow/ship/whatever reveal himself in the final episode of the first cour. Maybe he captures or there's a battle ongoing and it stops and we have to wait for next season. I dunno how they would make another 12 episodes if they fight yamato in that episode though(maybe they escape or get captured then escaped later etc...)
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They are probably just going to do some random bullshit sub combat because there hasn't been sub hunting subs yet. Then end at some random place that's loosely similar to the state of things in manga. Basically, shit.
400/402 thing only makes sense in manga, too bad they just cut out everything related to Yamato...then randomly throws those two at viewers anyway. Man the anime just gets on my nerves.
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If they manage to achieve parity with the manga without causing any ulcers, I'll be very impressed.
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On December 12 2013 04:24 Spazer wrote:
If they manage to achieve parity with the manga without causing any ulcers, I'll be very impressed.
Well they can put most of the pieces at around where manga has things, just that none of the developments necessary for that to happen will make any sense.
Meh show is already giving ulcers, what's another at this point.
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On December 12 2013 04:22 Ecael wrote:
They are probably just going to do some random bullshit sub combat because there hasn't been sub hunting subs yet. Then end at some random place that's loosely similar to the state of things in manga. Basically, shit.
400/402 thing only makes sense in manga, too bad they just cut out everything related to Yamato...then randomly throws those two at viewers anyway. Man the anime just gets on my nerves.
I am waiting to hear about yamato in the anime. If not, I'll just figure there's some code(maybe some exception within the admiralty code) that they can are able to use which is why they were able to do what they did the last episode(400 and 402). I don't think they'll completely ignore yamato though because they need to have that but I wouldn't expect them to explore that side in much details with the amount of episodes left(if not 2 cour).
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The fact that they reference the code at all is stupid, because it's fucking lost.
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On December 12 2013 04:40 Spazer wrote:
The fact that they reference the code at all is stupid, because it's fucking lost.
they did explain the code but way back at the start and I think it needed to be explained a lot more. What I meant is that I'll just figure that there's some exception in the code that allowed them to do it. This is one of those things that I probably won't look much into or think about lol.
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On December 12 2013 04:44 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 04:40 Spazer wrote:
The fact that they reference the code at all is stupid, because it's fucking lost. they did explain the code but way back at the start and I think it needed to be explained a lot more. What I meant is that I'll just figure that there's some exception in the code that allowed them to do it. This is one of those things that I probably won't look much into or think about lol.
No they didn't. Nobody knows what the code even is. Except for some reason, 400 and 402 saw fit to spew a bunch of stuff about the code which didn't make any sense.
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On December 12 2013 04:48 Spazer wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 04:44 BigFan wrote:On December 12 2013 04:40 Spazer wrote:
The fact that they reference the code at all is stupid, because it's fucking lost. they did explain the code but way back at the start and I think it needed to be explained a lot more. What I meant is that I'll just figure that there's some exception in the code that allowed them to do it. This is one of those things that I probably won't look much into or think about lol. No they didn't. Nobody knows what the code even is. Except for some reason, 400 and 402 saw fit to spew a bunch of stuff about the code which didn't make any sense.
when I said they explained it, I meant when they said the whole collateral damage and such stuff at the beginning. I agree that it needs to be explained a lot more because I'm still unsure of their purpose or just what the code dictates and such aside from those several mentions.
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What's the anime/manga you guys have been going on about for the last 5 or so posts?
On an unrelated note, watched the third Madoka movie, and was more of the same, which I enjoyed. I mean I watched Madoka a while after it first came out, and didn't have any hype to go on, and I am in the loser boat of people that hails it as the eva/anti-eva of the last decade. But yeah. Animation, music, plot all pretty much standard madoka, good stuff.
On the anime front, been watching Tiger and Bunny, my god, good stuff. Very enjoyable, even if it takes an episode or two to get used to it. Had it not been for Samurai Flamenco, I probably would not have found Tiger and Bunny. And the first op and ed songs are really good imo.
Now to patiently wait for the week's Log Horizon, KLK, SF. Not sure what to watch after. Still need to find and see the last 3 eps of yamato 2199, I guess. But after that....who knows.
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On December 12 2013 10:04 FireSA wrote:
What's the anime/manga you guys have been going on about for the last 5 or so posts?
On an unrelated note, watched the third Madoka movie, and was more of the same, which I enjoyed. I mean I watched Madoka a while after it first came out, and didn't have any hype to go on, and I am in the loser boat of people that hails it as the eva/anti-eva of the last decade. But yeah. Animation, music, plot all pretty much standard madoka, good stuff.
On the anime front, been watching Tiger and Bunny, my god, good stuff. Very enjoyable, even if it takes an episode or two to get used to it. Had it not been for Samurai Flamenco, I probably would not have found Tiger and Bunny. And the first op and ed songs are really good imo.
Now to patiently wait for the week's Log Horizon, KLK, SF. Not sure what to watch after. Still need to find and see the last 3 eps of yamato 2199, I guess. But after that....who knows.
You can find all of Yamato 2199 on Nyaa. I think Nubles or w/e is the group/person that did the releases.
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On December 12 2013 04:51 BigFan wrote:Show nested quote +On December 12 2013 04:48 Spazer wrote:On December 12 2013 04:44 BigFan wrote:On December 12 2013 04:40 Spazer wrote:
The fact that they reference the code at all is stupid, because it's fucking lost. they did explain the code but way back at the start and I think it needed to be explained a lot more. What I meant is that I'll just figure that there's some exception in the code that allowed them to do it. This is one of those things that I probably won't look much into or think about lol. No they didn't. Nobody knows what the code even is. Except for some reason, 400 and 402 saw fit to spew a bunch of stuff about the code which didn't make any sense. when I said they explained it, I meant when they said the whole collateral damage and such stuff at the beginning. I agree that it needs to be explained a lot more because I'm still unsure of their purpose or just what the code dictates and such aside from those several mentions.
They butchered the whole thing to the point of which it just doesn't worth discussion.
+ Show Spoiler +In the manga whenever a boat runs away, everyone just goes "Oh well, good lucky, hopefully she / they can figure out WTF this code thing is cause we sure ain't", and all boats are trolls pretty much.
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