EPTOn November 05 2013 08:14 ragz_gt wrote:
Kyousougiga
KaK
Golden Time prob best of the SoL bunch
Kyousougiga
KaK
Golden Time prob best of the SoL bunch
Best of SoL is nyanpasu, easily.
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
Best of SoL is nyanpasu, easily. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
Both valued honor and look where that got them! :S | ||
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Ecael
United States6703 Posts
On November 05 2013 08:28 XenOmega wrote: Wow, I've never thought of this, but Saber / Ned Stark :O Both valued honor and look where that got them! :S Not the most original type of characters, plenty of those floating around, guess the particular pair is just a new one for you to associate. Sent and I just happen to have already wasted hours on these two. He likes them and finds meaning in what they do, I don't. Pretty much what it boils down to. | ||
Spazer
Canada8035 Posts
On November 05 2013 05:45 maru~ wrote: It's pretty funny that Kiritsugu actually "won" with a servant like her. Imagine if he had something like Assassin. The real funny part is how badly the Einzberns always manage to screw themselves over. On November 05 2013 05:16 XenOmega wrote: What would you have her do though? I'm not sure I understand what you mean by 'she did nothing' She fought whoever wanted to fight her She killed when ordered to kill From my understanding, as a servant, her freedom is limited. Her goal was to change the past so that the destruction of her country would not occur. To do so, she needed the Grail, and she fought with that in mind. + Show Spoiler [F/Z] + Masters have no real control over their servants outside the threat of the command seals. For the most part, Saber acted as she pleased. If Kiritsugu were really interested in limiting her freedom, he could have forced her to abandon all semblance of honor. But he wants nothing to do with her anyways, so he didn't. The part that gets really me about F/Z saber is how she spends all this time espousing the virtues of honor and whatnot. And then she still kills Lancelot despite how she wronged him (in her mind), and in a dishonorable fashion to boot. In the end, she tries to justify this using Kiritsugu style logic, which she has been hating on for the entirety of the work. And then come F/SN, she's the exact same as before! You would think she'd have thought this stuff through after spending all that time dying after Camlann. In fairness though, the existence of the prequel does muddy the waters somewhat. | ||
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XenOmega
Canada2822 Posts
Gj everyone! | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
On November 05 2013 08:31 Ecael wrote: Not the most original type of characters, plenty of those floating around, guess the particular pair is just a new one for you to associate. Sent and I just happen to have already wasted hours on these two. He likes them and finds meaning in what they do, I don't. Pretty much what it boils down to. I don't even remember seeing you guys talking about Ned Stark. o_O | ||
BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=captain obvious? lol. You asked for it  | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On November 05 2013 08:39 Spazer wrote: The real funny part is how badly the Einzberns always manage to screw themselves over. + Show Spoiler [F/Z] + Masters have no real control over their servants outside the threat of the command seals. For the most part, Saber acted as she pleased. If Kiritsugu were really interested in limiting her freedom, he could have forced her to abandon all semblance of honor. But he wants nothing to do with her anyways, so he didn't. The part that gets really me about F/Z saber is how she spends all this time espousing the virtues of honor and whatnot. And then she still kills Lancelot despite how she wronged him (in her mind), and in a dishonorable fashion to boot. In the end, she tries to justify this using Kiritsugu style logic, which she has been hating on for the entirety of the work. And then come F/SN, she's the exact same as before! You would think she'd have thought this stuff through after spending all that time dying after Camlann. In fairness though, the existence of the prequel does muddy the waters somewhat. F/Z I think kinda clashed with what they presented in SN when it comes to her personality. You bring up Lancelot but he WANTED her to kill him and how was the method she killed him dishonorable? He attacked her and they fought straight up while she was in emotional turmoil because his presence brought up everything Rider was talking about. I agree though that she seemed somewhat UP for what she was hyped to be, but then again her master had an entirely independent and different method of fighting so she devoted much of her time to helping and protecting Iri because she believed in what they fed her "for the greater good" bullshit that they kept going on about. Once she saw his true nature she was pissed (though I agree when that happened IE how he killed Kayneth she probably should of had a stronger reaction). In the end she couldn't do anything because she was forced by command seals. She would have probably been a lot stronger if they didn't take her sheath for themselves since it has OP healing powers. She played a very conservative game and didn't push hard enough for one of her supposedly strong convictions but then again she ended up questioning her ideology for most of the show. | ||
Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + can't wait for mini takao's | ||
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Ushio
Canada868 Posts
On November 05 2013 08:14 ragz_gt wrote: Kyousougiga KaK Golden Time prob best of the SoL bunch Whats KaK? | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
KLK lol... sry Arpeggio is fun but it's not as good as manga, weird personality change and random change to story | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
Probably meant Kill la Kill On November 05 2013 09:02 Zergneedsfood wrote: I don't even remember seeing you guys talking about Ned Stark. o_O Tis an ancient and fun argument that we have repeated, word-for-word, several times now. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
On November 05 2013 08:39 Spazer wrote: The real funny part is how badly the Einzberns always manage to screw themselves over. + Show Spoiler [F/Z] + Masters have no real control over their servants outside the threat of the command seals. For the most part, Saber acted as she pleased. If Kiritsugu were really interested in limiting her freedom, he could have forced her to abandon all semblance of honor. But he wants nothing to do with her anyways, so he didn't. The part that gets really me about F/Z saber is how she spends all this time espousing the virtues of honor and whatnot. And then she still kills Lancelot despite how she wronged him (in her mind), and in a dishonorable fashion to boot. In the end, she tries to justify this using Kiritsugu style logic, which she has been hating on for the entirety of the work. And then come F/SN, she's the exact same as before! You would think she'd have thought this stuff through after spending all that time dying after Camlann. In fairness though, the existence of the prequel does muddy the waters somewhat. I think you kinda missed the story behind Berserker. + Show Spoiler + Lancelot's whole deal is that he had an affair with Guinevere, but never received an "honourable punishment" from Arthur, all because of Saber's hangups about being a terrible King, a fake "husband", etc. The whole reason he went "berserk" is because he was denied an honourable death for his crimes. If anything, the encounters with Rider and Lancelot just further enforced Saber's belief that knightly honour was important, and that she was a terrible King. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On November 05 2013 09:48 Kipsate wrote: Arpeggio is fun, I would watch that if you have the time + Show Spoiler + can't wait for mini takao's This. So much this. I can't put enough emphasis on how much this has to be stressed, especially the part in the spoiler-tag. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
On November 05 2013 10:41 WolfintheSheep wrote: I think you kinda missed the story behind Berserker. + Show Spoiler + Lancelot's whole deal is that he had an affair with Guinevere, but never received an "honourable punishment" from Arthur, all because of Saber's hangups about being a terrible King, a fake "husband", etc. The whole reason he went "berserk" is because he was denied an honourable death for his crimes. If anything, the encounters with Rider and Lancelot just further enforced Saber's belief that knightly honour was important, and that she was a terrible King. I know the backstory, I don't believe it changes what I said though. She messed up but thats part of the King Arthur legends, trying to be "perfect" and all that but failing because of human nature. I don't think she killed him in a dishonorable way, and infact gave him what he wanted except too late to save his sanity. She was blind to some things because of the burden of her ideology, which she was starting to realize during F/Z. Even before she was questioning things which is why she entered the contest to begin with. | ||
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Elem
Sweden4717 Posts
On November 05 2013 08:10 Ushio wrote: What are the shows to look out for this season? Only watching Gundam build fighters,monogatari S2,ippo, kuroko, and valvrave S2 atm. Some of the shows kinda look intriguing to me but I dont wanna waste time watching them just to find out they're bad. Non Non Biyori, Daiya no Ace, Miss Monochrome and Gingitsune. Teekyuu s3 is airing too, so if you haven't seen the previous seasons you should try it (it's 5 min shorts, but really good ones) Ragz already mentioned Golden Time, too. I don't think I can rec much else from this season with good conscience. Edit: Forgot Log Horizon, it's pretty nice and gives big nostalgia feels if you've played MMOs extensively in the past. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20255 Posts
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Kipsate
Netherlands45349 Posts
On November 05 2013 10:54 Toadesstern wrote: This. So much this. I can't put enough emphasis on how much this has to be stressed, especially the part in the spoiler-tag. Arpeggio 5 + Show Spoiler + Iona is being undersold, Haruna potentially oversold even though she is quite awesome, Inc more Haruna awesomeness next ep at the mansion too. Mini-Takao's should appear next episode I think?maybe ep 7. | ||
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BigFan
TLADT24920 Posts
On November 05 2013 09:07 Zergneedsfood wrote: Stop shitposting guys. It's not right. I can only hope this is a joke lol On November 05 2013 11:14 Elem wrote: Non Non Biyori, Daiya no Ace, Miss Monochrome and Gingitsune. Teekyuu s3 is airing too, so if you haven't seen the previous seasons you should try it (it's 5 min shorts, but really good ones) Ragz already mentioned Golden Time, too. I don't think I can rec much else from this season with good conscience. Edit: Forgot Log Horizon, it's pretty nice and gives big nostalgia feels if you've played MMOs extensively in the past. To add on: - Nagi no Asukara - White Album 2 Both great shows and art is very well done. Characters are fleshed out as well and unique personalities. | ||
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