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I like it fine, but not in the top 10
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On December 31 2012 01:40 BrTarolg wrote:
What happened to love for serial experiments lain :< Lain is great, don't think many actually dislike it. It's not top 5/10 material though imo, it just barely doesn't make the cut for me. I know Cheep and Shauni love it a lot more than I do though.
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On December 31 2012 01:21 Kaal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 00:40 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 23:18 solidbebe wrote:On December 30 2012 23:09 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 22:25 Kaal wrote:On December 30 2012 13:09 FireSA wrote:
Hmm heya boys and girls, so not a big anime aficionado, more something I watch just as I would watch normal TV shows, though I have recently watched Berserk, Fate Zero, Hellsing, Gantz (read it after), Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, and SOA, and am looking for other anime that might be considered slightly less known (I did not know of Steins;Gate and Madoka Magica, and those should definitely be well known) which I could watch. Preferably in the same vein as steins and magica. SOA is really just a love letter to korean mmos, and all of the other ones I recently watched were alright, but didn't blow me away. But yeah, suggestions would be welcomed! Since you dislike the STD show I will give you some honest recommendations. For the record though, we spent a lot of time on that chart at the top of the thread and you should look at it. If you liked Madoka you will probably like Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, if you liked Steins Gate you'll like Mnemosyne, if you like Gantz I'm sure you're in as much pain about the last 100 manga chapters as the rest of us, if you like Berserk try reading Claymore, and if you like Hellsing I recommend Black Lagoon or Hokuto no Ken. I also recommend you watch Bacanno!, in my opinion it's the best anime that can be recommended to anyone in the last 10 years. You can check out my MAL if you just want to poke around series, I have up to T but I've been slightly motivated to finish it in the last few days. http://myanimelist.net/animelist/KaalVeiten I don't think I can agree with the notion that Madoka and Nanoha are similar shows (or at least that you can recommend either because one liked the other.) They are certainly of the same genre and they both try something different from the norm, but while Nanoha goes more in the vein of the action shounen (which would make it more of a subversion), Madoka tries to be a deconstruction of it's genre, much like Legendary Girl Utena or Neon Genesis Evangelion. I would much rather recommend those two shows on that basis. Now the question is why would you recommend neon genesis evangelion to anyone? What a terrible anime Like it or not, it is widely regarded as a classic that has received universal acclaim from critics. It baffles me, that you would be surprised by anyone recommending it, regardless of your personal taste. (The same goes for Utena, btw.) Utena is an amazing anime, a true classic, but Evangelion is overhyped 2deep4u garbage.
If you want to have a discussion on the merits of Evangelion, you'll have to better than /a/-rethoric and non-arguments. Try again.
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On December 31 2012 02:02 thekaas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 01:21 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 00:40 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 23:18 solidbebe wrote:On December 30 2012 23:09 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 22:25 Kaal wrote:On December 30 2012 13:09 FireSA wrote:
Hmm heya boys and girls, so not a big anime aficionado, more something I watch just as I would watch normal TV shows, though I have recently watched Berserk, Fate Zero, Hellsing, Gantz (read it after), Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, and SOA, and am looking for other anime that might be considered slightly less known (I did not know of Steins;Gate and Madoka Magica, and those should definitely be well known) which I could watch. Preferably in the same vein as steins and magica. SOA is really just a love letter to korean mmos, and all of the other ones I recently watched were alright, but didn't blow me away. But yeah, suggestions would be welcomed! Since you dislike the STD show I will give you some honest recommendations. For the record though, we spent a lot of time on that chart at the top of the thread and you should look at it. If you liked Madoka you will probably like Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, if you liked Steins Gate you'll like Mnemosyne, if you like Gantz I'm sure you're in as much pain about the last 100 manga chapters as the rest of us, if you like Berserk try reading Claymore, and if you like Hellsing I recommend Black Lagoon or Hokuto no Ken. I also recommend you watch Bacanno!, in my opinion it's the best anime that can be recommended to anyone in the last 10 years. You can check out my MAL if you just want to poke around series, I have up to T but I've been slightly motivated to finish it in the last few days. http://myanimelist.net/animelist/KaalVeiten I don't think I can agree with the notion that Madoka and Nanoha are similar shows (or at least that you can recommend either because one liked the other.) They are certainly of the same genre and they both try something different from the norm, but while Nanoha goes more in the vein of the action shounen (which would make it more of a subversion), Madoka tries to be a deconstruction of it's genre, much like Legendary Girl Utena or Neon Genesis Evangelion. I would much rather recommend those two shows on that basis. Now the question is why would you recommend neon genesis evangelion to anyone? What a terrible anime Like it or not, it is widely regarded as a classic that has received universal acclaim from critics. It baffles me, that you would be surprised by anyone recommending it, regardless of your personal taste. (The same goes for Utena, btw.) Utena is an amazing anime, a true classic, but Evangelion is overhyped 2deep4u garbage. If you want to have a discussion on the merits of Evangelion, you'll have to better than /a/-rethoric and non-arguments. Try again.
I'm confused.
What merits?
Imagine that, an international board of anime fans almost universally dislikes Evangelion.
Gee, I wonder why.
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Almost done with Gantz
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Overall, I feel the anime is pretty good. The story is also very interesting.
Being able to listen to the thoughts of multiple POV is also satisfying for the viewer. I'm thinking about the first episode, reading the thoughts of all the characters that are watching the homeless fall into the train rails really set up the mood for this show. Cruel world, yet it somehow depicts our own. Just think about everyday accident ; most people will stand and watch, take out their cameras to take picture, not many will dare risking their lives going to help those in need.
HOWEVER, Gantz feels like "stretched". It is REALLY annoying that we keep seeing the same scenes over and over again (I guess this is fine for the viewer that watch 1 episode per week, but for the person that watches it all, its really really repetitive. IMO, Gantz could probably fit into half its current size.). I'm thinking something like Madoka-short (12 episodes). For me, Gantz would probably be more enjoyable if it was shorter and less repetitive (straight to the point)
Also, I hate how all the characters are always so hesitant. For the first time, sure, that realistic. But they've been through that world several times and still hesitate over the same reasons. Oh noes, Aliens, we should shoot! (but they don't).
Too many spectators too... instead of doing something, they just stand and watch.
Funny how they always get surprised. After 1-2 trip to that world, they should realize that Gantz like to troll them. Thought you killed all the bosses? Nope!
As for the characters, I have little to no attachment to them. Just like the story feels repetitive, the characters don't seem to evolve alot (up to the episodes I've watched).
Katou is annoying. They say he can't shoot, but they haven't given me any reasons yet. I think he does start shooting in episode 19 against the statues
Kishimo (or whatever her name is), beside being the big breast girl and part of the love triangle, she doesn't seem to have a big role.
Kei : supposed to be "cool", but yea... We see a lot of his thoughts (and fantasies over Kishimo), which is refreshing. But when facing the aliens too hesitant. One would expect them to be more decisive after going through gantz 1-2 time. Against the statues though, Kei seems to have gotten his shit together and started acting like a hero.
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On December 31 2012 02:08 Kaal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 02:02 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 01:21 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 00:40 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 23:18 solidbebe wrote:On December 30 2012 23:09 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 22:25 Kaal wrote:On December 30 2012 13:09 FireSA wrote:
Hmm heya boys and girls, so not a big anime aficionado, more something I watch just as I would watch normal TV shows, though I have recently watched Berserk, Fate Zero, Hellsing, Gantz (read it after), Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, and SOA, and am looking for other anime that might be considered slightly less known (I did not know of Steins;Gate and Madoka Magica, and those should definitely be well known) which I could watch. Preferably in the same vein as steins and magica. SOA is really just a love letter to korean mmos, and all of the other ones I recently watched were alright, but didn't blow me away. But yeah, suggestions would be welcomed! Since you dislike the STD show I will give you some honest recommendations. For the record though, we spent a lot of time on that chart at the top of the thread and you should look at it. If you liked Madoka you will probably like Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, if you liked Steins Gate you'll like Mnemosyne, if you like Gantz I'm sure you're in as much pain about the last 100 manga chapters as the rest of us, if you like Berserk try reading Claymore, and if you like Hellsing I recommend Black Lagoon or Hokuto no Ken. I also recommend you watch Bacanno!, in my opinion it's the best anime that can be recommended to anyone in the last 10 years. You can check out my MAL if you just want to poke around series, I have up to T but I've been slightly motivated to finish it in the last few days. http://myanimelist.net/animelist/KaalVeiten I don't think I can agree with the notion that Madoka and Nanoha are similar shows (or at least that you can recommend either because one liked the other.) They are certainly of the same genre and they both try something different from the norm, but while Nanoha goes more in the vein of the action shounen (which would make it more of a subversion), Madoka tries to be a deconstruction of it's genre, much like Legendary Girl Utena or Neon Genesis Evangelion. I would much rather recommend those two shows on that basis. Now the question is why would you recommend neon genesis evangelion to anyone? What a terrible anime Like it or not, it is widely regarded as a classic that has received universal acclaim from critics. It baffles me, that you would be surprised by anyone recommending it, regardless of your personal taste. (The same goes for Utena, btw.) Utena is an amazing anime, a true classic, but Evangelion is overhyped 2deep4u garbage. If you want to have a discussion on the merits of Evangelion, you'll have to better than /a/-rethoric and non-arguments. Try again. I'm confused. What merits? Imagine that, an international board of anime fans almost universally dislikes Evangelion. Gee, I wonder why.
No, it doens't. If you didn't notice, Evangelion 3.0, a movie with no release available for foreigners legal or otherwise, managed to have 200+ threads over the course of a few weeks after its release in Japan. You also failed to understand what I meant with /a/-rethoric. It has nothing to do with Eva in particular, but rather that you dismiss it simply because "it's garbage". You provide nothing to back it up and it simply comes off as an "I don't like it, so it's terrible"-argument.
The merits of Evangelion would be it's influence, the praise and awards it has received, and the popularity it has gained and still maintains.
EDIT: I didn't see Kipsate's post before I had posted this. My apologies.
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Anyone have an idea of what the best (or at least not terrible) subbers should be for Hellsing Ultimate and Nekomonogatari Kuro, respectively?
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On December 31 2012 02:39 thekaas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 02:08 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:02 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 01:21 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 00:40 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 23:18 solidbebe wrote:On December 30 2012 23:09 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 22:25 Kaal wrote:On December 30 2012 13:09 FireSA wrote:
Hmm heya boys and girls, so not a big anime aficionado, more something I watch just as I would watch normal TV shows, though I have recently watched Berserk, Fate Zero, Hellsing, Gantz (read it after), Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, and SOA, and am looking for other anime that might be considered slightly less known (I did not know of Steins;Gate and Madoka Magica, and those should definitely be well known) which I could watch. Preferably in the same vein as steins and magica. SOA is really just a love letter to korean mmos, and all of the other ones I recently watched were alright, but didn't blow me away. But yeah, suggestions would be welcomed! Since you dislike the STD show I will give you some honest recommendations. For the record though, we spent a lot of time on that chart at the top of the thread and you should look at it. If you liked Madoka you will probably like Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, if you liked Steins Gate you'll like Mnemosyne, if you like Gantz I'm sure you're in as much pain about the last 100 manga chapters as the rest of us, if you like Berserk try reading Claymore, and if you like Hellsing I recommend Black Lagoon or Hokuto no Ken. I also recommend you watch Bacanno!, in my opinion it's the best anime that can be recommended to anyone in the last 10 years. You can check out my MAL if you just want to poke around series, I have up to T but I've been slightly motivated to finish it in the last few days. http://myanimelist.net/animelist/KaalVeiten I don't think I can agree with the notion that Madoka and Nanoha are similar shows (or at least that you can recommend either because one liked the other.) They are certainly of the same genre and they both try something different from the norm, but while Nanoha goes more in the vein of the action shounen (which would make it more of a subversion), Madoka tries to be a deconstruction of it's genre, much like Legendary Girl Utena or Neon Genesis Evangelion. I would much rather recommend those two shows on that basis. Now the question is why would you recommend neon genesis evangelion to anyone? What a terrible anime Like it or not, it is widely regarded as a classic that has received universal acclaim from critics. It baffles me, that you would be surprised by anyone recommending it, regardless of your personal taste. (The same goes for Utena, btw.) Utena is an amazing anime, a true classic, but Evangelion is overhyped 2deep4u garbage. If you want to have a discussion on the merits of Evangelion, you'll have to better than /a/-rethoric and non-arguments. Try again. I'm confused. What merits? Imagine that, an international board of anime fans almost universally dislikes Evangelion. Gee, I wonder why. The merits of Evangelion would be it's influence, the praise and awards it has received, and the popularity it has gained and still maintains.
Hmm so what you're saying is the actual content of show is not a part of its merits. Interesting.
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On December 31 2012 02:39 thekaas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 02:08 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:02 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 01:21 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 00:40 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 23:18 solidbebe wrote:On December 30 2012 23:09 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 22:25 Kaal wrote:On December 30 2012 13:09 FireSA wrote:
Hmm heya boys and girls, so not a big anime aficionado, more something I watch just as I would watch normal TV shows, though I have recently watched Berserk, Fate Zero, Hellsing, Gantz (read it after), Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, and SOA, and am looking for other anime that might be considered slightly less known (I did not know of Steins;Gate and Madoka Magica, and those should definitely be well known) which I could watch. Preferably in the same vein as steins and magica. SOA is really just a love letter to korean mmos, and all of the other ones I recently watched were alright, but didn't blow me away. But yeah, suggestions would be welcomed! Since you dislike the STD show I will give you some honest recommendations. For the record though, we spent a lot of time on that chart at the top of the thread and you should look at it. If you liked Madoka you will probably like Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, if you liked Steins Gate you'll like Mnemosyne, if you like Gantz I'm sure you're in as much pain about the last 100 manga chapters as the rest of us, if you like Berserk try reading Claymore, and if you like Hellsing I recommend Black Lagoon or Hokuto no Ken. I also recommend you watch Bacanno!, in my opinion it's the best anime that can be recommended to anyone in the last 10 years. You can check out my MAL if you just want to poke around series, I have up to T but I've been slightly motivated to finish it in the last few days. http://myanimelist.net/animelist/KaalVeiten I don't think I can agree with the notion that Madoka and Nanoha are similar shows (or at least that you can recommend either because one liked the other.) They are certainly of the same genre and they both try something different from the norm, but while Nanoha goes more in the vein of the action shounen (which would make it more of a subversion), Madoka tries to be a deconstruction of it's genre, much like Legendary Girl Utena or Neon Genesis Evangelion. I would much rather recommend those two shows on that basis. Now the question is why would you recommend neon genesis evangelion to anyone? What a terrible anime Like it or not, it is widely regarded as a classic that has received universal acclaim from critics. It baffles me, that you would be surprised by anyone recommending it, regardless of your personal taste. (The same goes for Utena, btw.) Utena is an amazing anime, a true classic, but Evangelion is overhyped 2deep4u garbage. If you want to have a discussion on the merits of Evangelion, you'll have to better than /a/-rethoric and non-arguments. Try again. I'm confused. What merits? Imagine that, an international board of anime fans almost universally dislikes Evangelion. Gee, I wonder why. No, it doens't. If you didn't notice, Evangelion 3.0, a movie with no release available for foreigners legal or otherwise, managed to have 200+ threads over the course of a few weeks after its release in Japan. You also failed to understand what I meant with /a/-rethoric. It has nothing to do with Eva in particular, but rather that you dismiss it simply because "it's garbage". You provide nothing to back it up and it simply comes off as an "I don't like it, so it's terrible"-argument. The merits of Evangelion would be it's influence, the praise and awards it has received, and the popularity it has gained and still maintains. EDIT: I didn't see Kipsate's post before I had posted this. My apologies.
So the merits of Evangelion are that it's successful but there's nothing good in the show?
Glad we can agree on something.
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On December 31 2012 03:01 Kaal wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 02:39 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 02:08 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:02 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 01:21 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 00:40 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 23:18 solidbebe wrote:On December 30 2012 23:09 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 22:25 Kaal wrote:On December 30 2012 13:09 FireSA wrote:
Hmm heya boys and girls, so not a big anime aficionado, more something I watch just as I would watch normal TV shows, though I have recently watched Berserk, Fate Zero, Hellsing, Gantz (read it after), Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, and SOA, and am looking for other anime that might be considered slightly less known (I did not know of Steins;Gate and Madoka Magica, and those should definitely be well known) which I could watch. Preferably in the same vein as steins and magica. SOA is really just a love letter to korean mmos, and all of the other ones I recently watched were alright, but didn't blow me away. But yeah, suggestions would be welcomed! Since you dislike the STD show I will give you some honest recommendations. For the record though, we spent a lot of time on that chart at the top of the thread and you should look at it. If you liked Madoka you will probably like Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, if you liked Steins Gate you'll like Mnemosyne, if you like Gantz I'm sure you're in as much pain about the last 100 manga chapters as the rest of us, if you like Berserk try reading Claymore, and if you like Hellsing I recommend Black Lagoon or Hokuto no Ken. I also recommend you watch Bacanno!, in my opinion it's the best anime that can be recommended to anyone in the last 10 years. You can check out my MAL if you just want to poke around series, I have up to T but I've been slightly motivated to finish it in the last few days. http://myanimelist.net/animelist/KaalVeiten I don't think I can agree with the notion that Madoka and Nanoha are similar shows (or at least that you can recommend either because one liked the other.) They are certainly of the same genre and they both try something different from the norm, but while Nanoha goes more in the vein of the action shounen (which would make it more of a subversion), Madoka tries to be a deconstruction of it's genre, much like Legendary Girl Utena or Neon Genesis Evangelion. I would much rather recommend those two shows on that basis. Now the question is why would you recommend neon genesis evangelion to anyone? What a terrible anime Like it or not, it is widely regarded as a classic that has received universal acclaim from critics. It baffles me, that you would be surprised by anyone recommending it, regardless of your personal taste. (The same goes for Utena, btw.) Utena is an amazing anime, a true classic, but Evangelion is overhyped 2deep4u garbage. If you want to have a discussion on the merits of Evangelion, you'll have to better than /a/-rethoric and non-arguments. Try again. I'm confused. What merits? Imagine that, an international board of anime fans almost universally dislikes Evangelion. Gee, I wonder why. No, it doens't. If you didn't notice, Evangelion 3.0, a movie with no release available for foreigners legal or otherwise, managed to have 200+ threads over the course of a few weeks after its release in Japan. You also failed to understand what I meant with /a/-rethoric. It has nothing to do with Eva in particular, but rather that you dismiss it simply because "it's garbage". You provide nothing to back it up and it simply comes off as an "I don't like it, so it's terrible"-argument. The merits of Evangelion would be it's influence, the praise and awards it has received, and the popularity it has gained and still maintains. EDIT: I didn't see Kipsate's post before I had posted this. My apologies. So the merits of Evangelion are that it's successful but there's nothing good in the show? Glad we can agree on something.
Your logical fallacy is: A strawman!
Congratulations, you are a bad troll.
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On December 31 2012 03:13 thekaas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 03:01 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:39 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 02:08 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:02 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 01:21 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 00:40 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 23:18 solidbebe wrote:On December 30 2012 23:09 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 22:25 Kaal wrote:[quote] Since you dislike the STD show I will give you some honest recommendations. For the record though, we spent a lot of time on that chart at the top of the thread and you should look at it. If you liked Madoka you will probably like Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, if you liked Steins Gate you'll like Mnemosyne, if you like Gantz I'm sure you're in as much pain about the last 100 manga chapters as the rest of us, if you like Berserk try reading Claymore, and if you like Hellsing I recommend Black Lagoon or Hokuto no Ken. I also recommend you watch Bacanno!, in my opinion it's the best anime that can be recommended to anyone in the last 10 years. You can check out my MAL if you just want to poke around series, I have up to T but I've been slightly motivated to finish it in the last few days. http://myanimelist.net/animelist/KaalVeiten I don't think I can agree with the notion that Madoka and Nanoha are similar shows (or at least that you can recommend either because one liked the other.) They are certainly of the same genre and they both try something different from the norm, but while Nanoha goes more in the vein of the action shounen (which would make it more of a subversion), Madoka tries to be a deconstruction of it's genre, much like Legendary Girl Utena or Neon Genesis Evangelion. I would much rather recommend those two shows on that basis. Now the question is why would you recommend neon genesis evangelion to anyone? What a terrible anime Like it or not, it is widely regarded as a classic that has received universal acclaim from critics. It baffles me, that you would be surprised by anyone recommending it, regardless of your personal taste. (The same goes for Utena, btw.) Utena is an amazing anime, a true classic, but Evangelion is overhyped 2deep4u garbage. If you want to have a discussion on the merits of Evangelion, you'll have to better than /a/-rethoric and non-arguments. Try again. I'm confused. What merits? Imagine that, an international board of anime fans almost universally dislikes Evangelion. Gee, I wonder why. No, it doens't. If you didn't notice, Evangelion 3.0, a movie with no release available for foreigners legal or otherwise, managed to have 200+ threads over the course of a few weeks after its release in Japan. You also failed to understand what I meant with /a/-rethoric. It has nothing to do with Eva in particular, but rather that you dismiss it simply because "it's garbage". You provide nothing to back it up and it simply comes off as an "I don't like it, so it's terrible"-argument. The merits of Evangelion would be it's influence, the praise and awards it has received, and the popularity it has gained and still maintains. EDIT: I didn't see Kipsate's post before I had posted this. My apologies. So the merits of Evangelion are that it's successful but there's nothing good in the show? Glad we can agree on something. Your logical fallacy is: A strawman!Congratulations, you are a bad troll.
So you weren't saying that because it's popular is good? Because I could swear that's all you've said about the show.
Y'know Justin Bieber is pretty popular. I'm pretty sure he's sold more albums than Evangelion DVDs. Do you think Justin Bieber is better than Evangelion?
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On December 31 2012 03:13 thekaas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 03:01 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:39 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 02:08 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:02 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 01:21 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 00:40 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 23:18 solidbebe wrote:On December 30 2012 23:09 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 22:25 Kaal wrote:[quote] Since you dislike the STD show I will give you some honest recommendations. For the record though, we spent a lot of time on that chart at the top of the thread and you should look at it. If you liked Madoka you will probably like Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, if you liked Steins Gate you'll like Mnemosyne, if you like Gantz I'm sure you're in as much pain about the last 100 manga chapters as the rest of us, if you like Berserk try reading Claymore, and if you like Hellsing I recommend Black Lagoon or Hokuto no Ken. I also recommend you watch Bacanno!, in my opinion it's the best anime that can be recommended to anyone in the last 10 years. You can check out my MAL if you just want to poke around series, I have up to T but I've been slightly motivated to finish it in the last few days. http://myanimelist.net/animelist/KaalVeiten I don't think I can agree with the notion that Madoka and Nanoha are similar shows (or at least that you can recommend either because one liked the other.) They are certainly of the same genre and they both try something different from the norm, but while Nanoha goes more in the vein of the action shounen (which would make it more of a subversion), Madoka tries to be a deconstruction of it's genre, much like Legendary Girl Utena or Neon Genesis Evangelion. I would much rather recommend those two shows on that basis. Now the question is why would you recommend neon genesis evangelion to anyone? What a terrible anime Like it or not, it is widely regarded as a classic that has received universal acclaim from critics. It baffles me, that you would be surprised by anyone recommending it, regardless of your personal taste. (The same goes for Utena, btw.) Utena is an amazing anime, a true classic, but Evangelion is overhyped 2deep4u garbage. If you want to have a discussion on the merits of Evangelion, you'll have to better than /a/-rethoric and non-arguments. Try again. I'm confused. What merits? Imagine that, an international board of anime fans almost universally dislikes Evangelion. Gee, I wonder why. No, it doens't. If you didn't notice, Evangelion 3.0, a movie with no release available for foreigners legal or otherwise, managed to have 200+ threads over the course of a few weeks after its release in Japan. You also failed to understand what I meant with /a/-rethoric. It has nothing to do with Eva in particular, but rather that you dismiss it simply because "it's garbage". You provide nothing to back it up and it simply comes off as an "I don't like it, so it's terrible"-argument. The merits of Evangelion would be it's influence, the praise and awards it has received, and the popularity it has gained and still maintains. EDIT: I didn't see Kipsate's post before I had posted this. My apologies. So the merits of Evangelion are that it's successful but there's nothing good in the show? Glad we can agree on something. Your logical fallacy is: A strawman!Congratulations, you are a bad troll.
There's no point in arguing with them. They'll just band together in the end and annoy you. You should just stop now.
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On December 31 2012 03:23 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 03:13 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 03:01 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:39 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 02:08 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:02 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 01:21 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 00:40 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 23:18 solidbebe wrote:On December 30 2012 23:09 thekaas wrote:
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I don't think I can agree with the notion that Madoka and Nanoha are similar shows (or at least that you can recommend either because one liked the other.) They are certainly of the same genre and they both try something different from the norm, but while Nanoha goes more in the vein of the action shounen (which would make it more of a subversion), Madoka tries to be a deconstruction of it's genre, much like Legendary Girl Utena or Neon Genesis Evangelion. I would much rather recommend those two shows on that basis. Now the question is why would you recommend neon genesis evangelion to anyone? What a terrible anime Like it or not, it is widely regarded as a classic that has received universal acclaim from critics. It baffles me, that you would be surprised by anyone recommending it, regardless of your personal taste. (The same goes for Utena, btw.) Utena is an amazing anime, a true classic, but Evangelion is overhyped 2deep4u garbage. If you want to have a discussion on the merits of Evangelion, you'll have to better than /a/-rethoric and non-arguments. Try again. I'm confused. What merits? Imagine that, an international board of anime fans almost universally dislikes Evangelion. Gee, I wonder why. No, it doens't. If you didn't notice, Evangelion 3.0, a movie with no release available for foreigners legal or otherwise, managed to have 200+ threads over the course of a few weeks after its release in Japan. You also failed to understand what I meant with /a/-rethoric. It has nothing to do with Eva in particular, but rather that you dismiss it simply because "it's garbage". You provide nothing to back it up and it simply comes off as an "I don't like it, so it's terrible"-argument. The merits of Evangelion would be it's influence, the praise and awards it has received, and the popularity it has gained and still maintains. EDIT: I didn't see Kipsate's post before I had posted this. My apologies. So the merits of Evangelion are that it's successful but there's nothing good in the show? Glad we can agree on something. Your logical fallacy is: A strawman!Congratulations, you are a bad troll. There's no point in arguing with them. They'll just band together in the end and annoy you. You should just stop now.
Yeah, I should have considered that option earlier. Thank you for your advice.
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On December 31 2012 01:47 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 01:40 BrTarolg wrote:
What happened to love for serial experiments lain :< Lain is great, don't think many actually dislike it. It's not top 5/10 material though imo, it just barely doesn't make the cut for me. I know Cheep and Shauni love it a lot more than I do though.
Sheep didn't like Lain at least to the extent that Shauni and you did.
On December 31 2012 02:39 thekaas wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 02:08 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:02 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 01:21 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 00:40 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 23:18 solidbebe wrote:On December 30 2012 23:09 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 22:25 Kaal wrote:On December 30 2012 13:09 FireSA wrote:
Hmm heya boys and girls, so not a big anime aficionado, more something I watch just as I would watch normal TV shows, though I have recently watched Berserk, Fate Zero, Hellsing, Gantz (read it after), Madoka Magica, Steins Gate, and SOA, and am looking for other anime that might be considered slightly less known (I did not know of Steins;Gate and Madoka Magica, and those should definitely be well known) which I could watch. Preferably in the same vein as steins and magica. SOA is really just a love letter to korean mmos, and all of the other ones I recently watched were alright, but didn't blow me away. But yeah, suggestions would be welcomed! Since you dislike the STD show I will give you some honest recommendations. For the record though, we spent a lot of time on that chart at the top of the thread and you should look at it. If you liked Madoka you will probably like Mahou Shoujo Lyrical Nanoha, if you liked Steins Gate you'll like Mnemosyne, if you like Gantz I'm sure you're in as much pain about the last 100 manga chapters as the rest of us, if you like Berserk try reading Claymore, and if you like Hellsing I recommend Black Lagoon or Hokuto no Ken. I also recommend you watch Bacanno!, in my opinion it's the best anime that can be recommended to anyone in the last 10 years. You can check out my MAL if you just want to poke around series, I have up to T but I've been slightly motivated to finish it in the last few days. http://myanimelist.net/animelist/KaalVeiten I don't think I can agree with the notion that Madoka and Nanoha are similar shows (or at least that you can recommend either because one liked the other.) They are certainly of the same genre and they both try something different from the norm, but while Nanoha goes more in the vein of the action shounen (which would make it more of a subversion), Madoka tries to be a deconstruction of it's genre, much like Legendary Girl Utena or Neon Genesis Evangelion. I would much rather recommend those two shows on that basis. Now the question is why would you recommend neon genesis evangelion to anyone? What a terrible anime Like it or not, it is widely regarded as a classic that has received universal acclaim from critics. It baffles me, that you would be surprised by anyone recommending it, regardless of your personal taste. (The same goes for Utena, btw.) Utena is an amazing anime, a true classic, but Evangelion is overhyped 2deep4u garbage. If you want to have a discussion on the merits of Evangelion, you'll have to better than /a/-rethoric and non-arguments. Try again. I'm confused. What merits? Imagine that, an international board of anime fans almost universally dislikes Evangelion. Gee, I wonder why. No, it doens't. If you didn't notice, Evangelion 3.0, a movie with no release available for foreigners legal or otherwise, managed to have 200+ threads over the course of a few weeks after its release in Japan. You also failed to understand what I meant with /a/-rethoric. It has nothing to do with Eva in particular, but rather that you dismiss it simply because "it's garbage". You provide nothing to back it up and it simply comes off as an "I don't like it, so it's terrible"-argument. The merits of Evangelion would be it's influence, the praise and awards it has received, and the popularity it has gained and still maintains. EDIT: I didn't see Kipsate's post before I had posted this. My apologies.
I don't understand why you got frustrated when they just recited exactly what you wrote in this post. o_O
You quoted the merits of Evangelion to be its "influence" (whatever the hell that means), the "praise", the "awards", and its "popularity", which can all be summed up into one word: "popularity".
If all you can cite for a show's success is its ability to enthrall the masses, then why would you get upset when you get called out on it?
Also the Rebuild movies aren't the same thing as NGE. I would know. I got scolded for it. >_>;
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On December 31 2012 03:23 killa_robot wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 03:13 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 03:01 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:39 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 02:08 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:02 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 01:21 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 00:40 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 23:18 solidbebe wrote:On December 30 2012 23:09 thekaas wrote:
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I don't think I can agree with the notion that Madoka and Nanoha are similar shows (or at least that you can recommend either because one liked the other.) They are certainly of the same genre and they both try something different from the norm, but while Nanoha goes more in the vein of the action shounen (which would make it more of a subversion), Madoka tries to be a deconstruction of it's genre, much like Legendary Girl Utena or Neon Genesis Evangelion. I would much rather recommend those two shows on that basis. Now the question is why would you recommend neon genesis evangelion to anyone? What a terrible anime Like it or not, it is widely regarded as a classic that has received universal acclaim from critics. It baffles me, that you would be surprised by anyone recommending it, regardless of your personal taste. (The same goes for Utena, btw.) Utena is an amazing anime, a true classic, but Evangelion is overhyped 2deep4u garbage. If you want to have a discussion on the merits of Evangelion, you'll have to better than /a/-rethoric and non-arguments. Try again. I'm confused. What merits? Imagine that, an international board of anime fans almost universally dislikes Evangelion. Gee, I wonder why. No, it doens't. If you didn't notice, Evangelion 3.0, a movie with no release available for foreigners legal or otherwise, managed to have 200+ threads over the course of a few weeks after its release in Japan. You also failed to understand what I meant with /a/-rethoric. It has nothing to do with Eva in particular, but rather that you dismiss it simply because "it's garbage". You provide nothing to back it up and it simply comes off as an "I don't like it, so it's terrible"-argument. The merits of Evangelion would be it's influence, the praise and awards it has received, and the popularity it has gained and still maintains. EDIT: I didn't see Kipsate's post before I had posted this. My apologies. So the merits of Evangelion are that it's successful but there's nothing good in the show? Glad we can agree on something. Your logical fallacy is: A strawman!Congratulations, you are a bad troll. There's no point in arguing with them. They'll just band together in the end and annoy you. You should just stop now. All they're asking for is for him to provide an actual argument. Even if they have their own special ways of doing so. Doesn't change that no real argument has been put up.
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On December 31 2012 03:42 Elem wrote:Show nested quote +On December 31 2012 03:23 killa_robot wrote:On December 31 2012 03:13 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 03:01 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:39 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 02:08 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 02:02 thekaas wrote:On December 31 2012 01:21 Kaal wrote:On December 31 2012 00:40 thekaas wrote:On December 30 2012 23:18 solidbebe wrote:
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Now the question is why would you recommend neon genesis evangelion to anyone? What a terrible anime Like it or not, it is widely regarded as a classic that has received universal acclaim from critics. It baffles me, that you would be surprised by anyone recommending it, regardless of your personal taste. (The same goes for Utena, btw.) Utena is an amazing anime, a true classic, but Evangelion is overhyped 2deep4u garbage. If you want to have a discussion on the merits of Evangelion, you'll have to better than /a/-rethoric and non-arguments. Try again. I'm confused. What merits? Imagine that, an international board of anime fans almost universally dislikes Evangelion. Gee, I wonder why. No, it doens't. If you didn't notice, Evangelion 3.0, a movie with no release available for foreigners legal or otherwise, managed to have 200+ threads over the course of a few weeks after its release in Japan. You also failed to understand what I meant with /a/-rethoric. It has nothing to do with Eva in particular, but rather that you dismiss it simply because "it's garbage". You provide nothing to back it up and it simply comes off as an "I don't like it, so it's terrible"-argument. The merits of Evangelion would be it's influence, the praise and awards it has received, and the popularity it has gained and still maintains. EDIT: I didn't see Kipsate's post before I had posted this. My apologies. So the merits of Evangelion are that it's successful but there's nothing good in the show? Glad we can agree on something. Your logical fallacy is: A strawman!Congratulations, you are a bad troll. There's no point in arguing with them. They'll just band together in the end and annoy you. You should just stop now. All they're asking for is for him to provide an actual argument. Even if they have their own special ways of doing so. Doesn't change that no real argument has been put up.
Not really. All they've been saying is that it's bad, and he's been saying they need to give a reason as to why, to which they just respond that it's bad. So, it's bad because it's bad, and he needs to prove them wrong? Doesn't make sense.
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"It's good because it's popular", and "It's bad because it's bad" are both equally compelling arguments, imo.
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Now I'm on episode 10 of K... Yea I don't understand why it's so highly rated.
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On December 31 2012 04:16 Artifice wrote:
"It's good because it's popular", and "It's bad because it's bad" are both equally compelling arguments, imo.
That's a fantastic opinion lol.
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