EPTAnime Discussion Thread - Page 2547
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On December 30 2012 23:09 thekaas wrote: I don't think I can agree with the notion that Madoka and Nanoha are similar shows (or at least that you can recommend either because one liked the other.) They are certainly of the same genre and they both try something different from the norm, but while Nanoha goes more in the vein of the action shounen (which would make it more of a subversion), Madoka tries to be a deconstruction of it's genre, much like Legendary Girl Utena or Neon Genesis Evangelion. I would much rather recommend those two shows on that basis. Question: How exactly is Neon Genesis Evengelion a deconstruction? What did that show do that had not already been done by something in the genre? Please cite specific examples. Otherwise please refrain from using your /a/-rhetoric to talk about the show. On December 31 2012 02:39 thekaas wrote: The merits of Evangelion would be it's influence, the praise and awards it has received, and the popularity it has gained and still maintains. I don't think "being popular" counts as a merit about what makes a show good or not. Reasons as to why myself and other people don't like Evangelion have been stated ad nauseam in this very thread, and that Evangelion thread. If you want to see why people think its bad, its been stated time and time again, look it up. Still looking for why YOU as an individual think it is GOOD. As in, not trying to get you to defend it from other people, but rather to get you to state your own personal views as to why you like it. If someone asked me why I like Legend of the Galactic Heroes or One Piece, I could do it easily. | ||
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ragz_gt
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Just to form own opinion and know what everyone talk about Code Geass R2 is still in the top 10 in MAL list >.<V | ||
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thekaas
Denmark235 Posts
On December 31 2012 07:18 Sentenal wrote: I don't think "being popular" counts as a merit about what makes a show good or not. Reasons as to why myself and other people don't like Evangelion have been stated ad nauseam in this very thread, and that Evangelion thread. If you want to see why people think its bad, its been stated time and time again, look it up. Still looking for why YOU as an individual think it is GOOD. As in, not trying to get you to defend it from other people, but rather to get you to state your own personal views as to why you like it. If someone asked me why I like Legend of the Galactic Heroes or One Piece, I could do it easily. It would seem that I have misunderstood the definition of merit (yay, language!). I never tried to argue that the show itself was good or bad. Nevertheless, I'll bite. I like it mostly because of the characters. I think they are incredibly well-written almost all across the board. Asuka in particular does a great job in picking apart the anime tsundere. Now, the last two episodes of the TV-series SHOULD have left me hating the series completely. It feels disconnected from the rest of the narrative and it throws "show, don't tell" out of the window. And yet I actually like them more than most parts of the series. Somehow, it was actually emotionally engaging to watch Shinji's existensial crisis in such a disjointed form, though the movie conveyed it in a much better way, imo. If I should fault it for anything it would be that it can get overly pretentious at times, and that its narrative is quite weak during the middle. EDIT I think you've misunderstood the term 'deconstruction'. The word you're looking for is 'subversion'. Most people use it as defined by TV-Tropes: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Deconstruction I personally avoid calling it a deconstruction from the simple fact that I simply haven't seen that many other mecha-shows (the only one that comes to mind is Gurren Lagann). | ||
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EtherealDeath
United States8366 Posts
On December 31 2012 06:38 Zeke50100 wrote: Only if it's as good as Molester Man. Fuck dude you going to make me choke on a drink. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On December 31 2012 09:52 thekaas wrote: It would seem that I have misunderstood the definition of merit (yay, language!). I never tried to argue that the show itself was good or bad. Nevertheless, I'll bite. I like it mostly because of the characters. I think they are incredibly well-written almost all across the board. Asuka in particular does a great job in picking apart the anime tsundere. Now, the last two episodes of the TV-series SHOULD have left me hating the series completely. It feels disconnected from the rest of the narrative and it throws "show, don't tell" out of the window. And yet I actually like them more than most parts of the series. Somehow, it was actually emotionally engaging to watch Shinji's existensial crisis in such a disjointed form, though the movie conveyed it in a much better way, imo. If I should fault it for anything it would be that it can get overly pretentious at times, and that its narrative is quite weak during the middle. EDIT I think you've misunderstood the term 'deconstruction'. The word you're looking for is 'subversion'. Most people use it as defined by TV-Tropes: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Deconstruction Now we get some reasons. I happen to strongly disagree, as I hated every single character in the show, and found a good deal of them (such as Asuka) almost unbearable, but opinions are opinions. I'm not talking about the definition of what a deconstruction is. I was asking how it deconstructed anything, and examples of it. As an aside, Tvtropes makes me laugh with the garbage they put on their site, like calling GaoGaiGar a "direct, deliberate reaction to Neon Genesis Evangelion" as a "Reconstruction". edit: I personally avoid calling it a deconstruction from the simple fact that I simply haven't seen that many other mecha-shows (the only one that comes to mind is Gurren Lagann). I see. Well, in that case, I suppose I won't push the issue. Regardless, I'm of the opinion that "Evangelion is a deconstruction!" is a myth. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
With that said, I'm going to rewatch it. My question is, should I watch all the endless 8 episodes, and should I watch s1 then s2 or just combine all the episodes to watch it in chronological order? | ||
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Emnjay808
United States10665 Posts
On December 31 2012 10:17 OutlaW- wrote: I think I've seen haruhi (the series) a long time ago because I really don't remember anything. With that said, I'm going to rewatch it. My question is, should I watch all the endless 8 episodes, and should I watch s1 then s2 or just combine all the episodes to watch it in chronological order? Skip it all and just watch the movie o/ | ||
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solidbebe
Netherlands4921 Posts
On December 31 2012 10:17 OutlaW- wrote: I think I've seen haruhi (the series) a long time ago because I really don't remember anything. With that said, I'm going to rewatch it. My question is, should I watch all the endless 8 episodes, and should I watch s1 then s2 or just combine all the episodes to watch it in chronological order? I watched s1 then s2, was fine imo. Try to watch endless eight at least for a few episodes because it really does try to make a point. In the end it will improve the experience to which it all builds up: the movie, Imo the best thing about it all. | ||
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ragz_gt
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Chronological order makes more sense, but aired order plays more to the emotion, with initial shock, introduction, and climax at end. If you watch it chronologically, the latter part of S1 gets pretty dull. I love Rie and all her expy, don't like Asuka even though I generally like tsundere though | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On December 31 2012 10:17 OutlaW- wrote: I think I've seen haruhi (the series) a long time ago because I really don't remember anything. With that said, I'm going to rewatch it. My question is, should I watch all the endless 8 episodes, and should I watch s1 then s2 or just combine all the episodes to watch it in chronological order? Season 2 combined all the episodes (including the new ones) into chronological order, but I feel the pacing and structure Season 1 had, despite its disjoint chronological order, was fairly good and preferable to the alternative (the show climaxs in the middle, and then ZZZzz's through the rest). Its up to you, I guess. As for Endless 8, they literally reaired the same fucking episode 8 times in a row. There are extremely minor ignorable differences, like different camera angles, or they are wearing something different, but its the same fucking episode lol. I'd suggest watching the first episode of Endless Eight, and then just skipping to the last part of the last episode of it, and pretend you suffered through the whole thing. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
On December 31 2012 10:24 solidbebe wrote: I watched s1 then s2, was fine imo. Try to watch endless eight at least for a few episodes because it really does try to make a point. In the end it will improve the experience to which it all builds up: the movie, Imo the best thing about it all. I really liked this series, but the movie really did make it. The endless 8was pretty brutal though. I think I watched 3 of them before I started skipping. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
On December 31 2012 10:26 Sentenal wrote: Season 2 combined all the episodes (including the new ones) into chronological order, but I feel the pacing and structure Season 1 had, despite its disjoint chronological order, was fairly good and preferable to the alternative (the show climaxs in the middle, and then ZZZzz's through the rest). Its up to you, I guess. As for Endless 8, they literally reaired the same fucking episode 8 times in a row. There are extremely minor ignorable differences, like different camera angles, or they are wearing something different, but its the same fucking episode lol. I'd suggest watching the first episode of Endless Eight, and then just skipping to the last part of the last episode of it, and pretend you suffered through the whole thing. That's what I will probably end up doing, but I read somewhere that they actually animated every episode separately, and I kinda want to feel the same thing everyone else did when they watched it as it aired. That's only what I'm saying now, though; if it'll be too much of a pain I'll probably just watch the first and the last. Thanks for the answers. | ||
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ragz_gt
9172 Posts
On December 31 2012 10:32 OutlaW- wrote: That's what I will probably end up doing, but I read somewhere that they actually animated every episode separately, and I kinda want to feel the same thing everyone else did when they watched it as it aired. That's only what I'm saying now, though; if it'll be too much of a pain I'll probably just watch the first and the last. Thanks for the answers. They did, it's kinda funny when you try to spot all the different things (not like you have anything else to do) | ||
Nagisama
Canada4481 Posts
On December 31 2012 10:32 OutlaW- wrote: That's what I will probably end up doing, but I read somewhere that they actually animated every episode separately, and I kinda want to feel the same thing everyone else did when they watched it as it aired. That's only what I'm saying now, though; if it'll be too much of a pain I'll probably just watch the first and the last. Thanks for the answers. It's not worth ~3 hours of your life to go through every single episode of endless 8 just to pick out differences. Watch the first season in the airing order, and then watch Bamboo Leaf Rhapsody, 1st and last episode of endless 8, and the Sigh arc. Finally, watch the movie. I feel if you watched it in chronological order, the pacing will feel a little weird, because that's just not how it was aired when they first made it. Don't be like emnjay and watch the movie only. That's just stupid. edit: you can also skip the "Some day in the rain" episode too, that was just pointless filler. | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On December 31 2012 09:57 EtherealDeath wrote: Fuck dude you going to make me choke on a drink. Because of the title or because it's not good? I think it's one of the better manga series I've been reading lately. | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On December 31 2012 11:05 Zeke50100 wrote: Because of the title or because it's not good? I think it's one of the better manga series I've been reading lately. I've never read that manga, and I probably never will, but I saw one page of it (at least I think its the same manga) where the dude's cell phone goes off, and the song it plays is: | ||
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Zeke50100
United States2220 Posts
On December 31 2012 11:09 Sentenal wrote: I've never read that manga, and I probably never will, but I saw one page of it (at least I think its the same manga) where the dude's cell phone goes off, and the song it plays is: + Show Spoiler + http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1pYduET6PwI That opening and Evangelion's opening share the same chordal progression for the first 30 seconds. Freeeeaaaaky. You should read it. Maybe. It's not mecha. Actually, I just realized that there are more chapters up, so I'll be reading those now. I originally thought it was going to be a short read (18 chapters, and the average page length was ~20 pages), but there's more text than anything. The story is realistic enough (a bit harem-ish, but not everybody is fawning over the main character);. | ||
Spazer
Canada8033 Posts
On December 31 2012 11:40 Zeke50100 wrote: That opening and Evangelion's opening share the same chordal progression for the first 30 seconds. Freeeeaaaaky. You should read it. Maybe. It's not mecha. Actually, I just realized that there are more chapters up, so I'll be reading those now. I originally thought it was going to be a short read (18 chapters, and the average page length was ~20 pages), but there's more text than anything. The story is realistic enough (a bit harem-ish, but not everybody is fawning over the main character);. I can tell you right now that it's not his kind of story at all. I also wouldn't call it harem-ish. | ||
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