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So apparently the commander is OP? I would guess he actually has the ability to fight Noise or it wouldn't make sense that they'd give him so much power but be useless against them. Seems like the ending of ep1 wasn't a complete troll after all as we see Hibiki begin to transform to dark crazy mode a bit. Maybe this is an effect of having the Kanade's artifact lodged in her body or maybe because she's using "someone else's" song. They conveniently explained complaints about Noise as they only just recently appeared frequently and only in this one area. Finally, we have some new girl using some fancy named armor. Could be good or bad guy; I get the feeling it's some more powerful version of Symphogear but a different division.
Hibiki ditching her friend multiple times is already annoying. Probably will play a role later on as she will chase Hibiki to the battlefield and die a stupid death or something like that.
Well, in the first episode, the ending is already known. She's not going to die, Hibiki is. Also, commander probably can't sing, so he doesn't have any armor and would probably die trying to kill Noise (you do have to touch them unless you have some kind of weapon like Kanade and Tsubasa did).
Oh I got them mixed up. In that case, she'll follow Hibiki to the battlefield and Hibiki will die trying to protect her. I agree regarding the commander, but it just seems silly to have him be so strong but not participate in battles eventually. I guess if there's some powerful enemy humans, then he can fight.
Makes me kind of convinced that he's going to die, to be honest. Powerful badass characters don't usually show how powerful they are and walk away from the show unscathed. :/ And given how this show is treating its characters, it wouldn't be that surprising.
On January 21 2012 04:36 Rebs wrote: Yea the root of the supposed "Karutalanguage" is still Japanese.I dont really get why you would want to call it its own langauge anyway, games like this exist in other languages and equating the logic and tactics involved in playing the game to a language by itself seems a bit strange.
Its pretty simple if you dont have a command over the language good enough to understand the Saitei styled subs thing then youd be scratching your head a tad or you might miss the point completely. Again you might not enjoy it as much but people who can pick up romanized references and enjoy them are not the only ones watching. I dropped the show but like MichaelEU I'd rather watch the Saitei (although I dont really consider myself a Weeboo, whatever that really is) but Id reccommend Crunchy.
Ok I understand this. It is subjective in the style I prefer.
This is different because the language of the game means EVERYTHING. When you translate the word, you are losing meaning instead of gaining meaning. This is objective and therefore, Saitei's subs should be prefered over everyone else's.
I sort of agree with this. I know decent enough Japanese, and I do some translation. I usually get peeved about putting too much detail in my translations, especially translator's notes.
However, in the case of Chiyafuru, I think it's great that they're putting that extra detail in. Karuta is a game that revolves around the language. In many cases, the plot (i.e. the reason why Chihaya is suckiing) develops off of her inability to hear certain syllables or whatever.
You can certainly complain they're going too far, but explaining what the heck they are actually doing since karuta isn't really a game that us foreigners can relate to is pretty important imo.
He isn't saying that they are going too far, he is saying that Saitei should be preferred above all. What everyone else is saying is that that's crazy, if every subber worked like that no one would want to watch subs.
As for Karuta itself, you are overcomplicating the game. If we were to do a game of karuta with English with starcraft unit quotes and I start off with "pow...", you don't really need to hear the rest to slap up the card. The concept works exactly the same. If you care about the Japanese itself then the romanized text is neat, if you don't, leaving it in English still makes perfect sense. Without knowing Japanese it is meaningless for people to spell it all out for you anyway.
I appreciated watching KAA subs of Crest where they did a ton of things with Baronh, the language that the Abhs use. That doesn't mean I'd recommend people to watch that (I do, because they have a cleaner and better rip than every other rips that I've seen). Not everyone watches animes to not miss every detail, some people would prefer if things made sense.
So apparently the commander is OP? I would guess he actually has the ability to fight Noise or it wouldn't make sense that they'd give him so much power but be useless against them. Seems like the ending of ep1 wasn't a complete troll after all as we see Hibiki begin to transform to dark crazy mode a bit. Maybe this is an effect of having the Kanade's artifact lodged in her body or maybe because she's using "someone else's" song. They conveniently explained complaints about Noise as they only just recently appeared frequently and only in this one area. Finally, we have some new girl using some fancy named armor. Could be good or bad guy; I get the feeling it's some more powerful version of Symphogear but a different division.
Hibiki ditching her friend multiple times is already annoying. Probably will play a role later on as she will chase Hibiki to the battlefield and die a stupid death or something like that.
Well, in the first episode, the ending is already known. She's not going to die, Hibiki is. Also, commander probably can't sing, so he doesn't have any armor and would probably die trying to kill Noise (you do have to touch them unless you have some kind of weapon like Kanade and Tsubasa did).
Oh I got them mixed up. In that case, she'll follow Hibiki to the battlefield and Hibiki will die trying to protect her. I agree regarding the commander, but it just seems silly to have him be so strong but not participate in battles eventually. I guess if there's some powerful enemy humans, then he can fight.
Makes me kind of convinced that he's going to die, to be honest. Powerful badass characters don't usually show how powerful they are and walk away from the show unscathed. :/ And given how this show is treating its characters, it wouldn't be that surprising.
So apparently the commander is OP? I would guess he actually has the ability to fight Noise or it wouldn't make sense that they'd give him so much power but be useless against them. Seems like the ending of ep1 wasn't a complete troll after all as we see Hibiki begin to transform to dark crazy mode a bit. Maybe this is an effect of having the Kanade's artifact lodged in her body or maybe because she's using "someone else's" song. They conveniently explained complaints about Noise as they only just recently appeared frequently and only in this one area. Finally, we have some new girl using some fancy named armor. Could be good or bad guy; I get the feeling it's some more powerful version of Symphogear but a different division.
Hibiki ditching her friend multiple times is already annoying. Probably will play a role later on as she will chase Hibiki to the battlefield and die a stupid death or something like that.
Well, in the first episode, the ending is already known. She's not going to die, Hibiki is. Also, commander probably can't sing, so he doesn't have any armor and would probably die trying to kill Noise (you do have to touch them unless you have some kind of weapon like Kanade and Tsubasa did).
Oh I got them mixed up. In that case, she'll follow Hibiki to the battlefield and Hibiki will die trying to protect her. I agree regarding the commander, but it just seems silly to have him be so strong but not participate in battles eventually. I guess if there's some powerful enemy humans, then he can fight.
Makes me kind of convinced that he's going to die, to be honest. Powerful badass characters don't usually show how powerful they are and walk away from the show unscathed. :/ And given how this show is treating its characters, it wouldn't be that surprising.
So apparently the commander is OP? I would guess he actually has the ability to fight Noise or it wouldn't make sense that they'd give him so much power but be useless against them. Seems like the ending of ep1 wasn't a complete troll after all as we see Hibiki begin to transform to dark crazy mode a bit. Maybe this is an effect of having the Kanade's artifact lodged in her body or maybe because she's using "someone else's" song. They conveniently explained complaints about Noise as they only just recently appeared frequently and only in this one area. Finally, we have some new girl using some fancy named armor. Could be good or bad guy; I get the feeling it's some more powerful version of Symphogear but a different division.
Hibiki ditching her friend multiple times is already annoying. Probably will play a role later on as she will chase Hibiki to the battlefield and die a stupid death or something like that.
Well, in the first episode, the ending is already known. She's not going to die, Hibiki is. Also, commander probably can't sing, so he doesn't have any armor and would probably die trying to kill Noise (you do have to touch them unless you have some kind of weapon like Kanade and Tsubasa did).
Oh I got them mixed up. In that case, she'll follow Hibiki to the battlefield and Hibiki will die trying to protect her. I agree regarding the commander, but it just seems silly to have him be so strong but not participate in battles eventually. I guess if there's some powerful enemy humans, then he can fight.
Makes me kind of convinced that he's going to die, to be honest. Powerful badass characters don't usually show how powerful they are and walk away from the show unscathed. :/ And given how this show is treating its characters, it wouldn't be that surprising.
So apparently the commander is OP? I would guess he actually has the ability to fight Noise or it wouldn't make sense that they'd give him so much power but be useless against them. Seems like the ending of ep1 wasn't a complete troll after all as we see Hibiki begin to transform to dark crazy mode a bit. Maybe this is an effect of having the Kanade's artifact lodged in her body or maybe because she's using "someone else's" song. They conveniently explained complaints about Noise as they only just recently appeared frequently and only in this one area. Finally, we have some new girl using some fancy named armor. Could be good or bad guy; I get the feeling it's some more powerful version of Symphogear but a different division.
Hibiki ditching her friend multiple times is already annoying. Probably will play a role later on as she will chase Hibiki to the battlefield and die a stupid death or something like that.
Well, in the first episode, the ending is already known. She's not going to die, Hibiki is. Also, commander probably can't sing, so he doesn't have any armor and would probably die trying to kill Noise (you do have to touch them unless you have some kind of weapon like Kanade and Tsubasa did).
Oh I got them mixed up. In that case, she'll follow Hibiki to the battlefield and Hibiki will die trying to protect her. I agree regarding the commander, but it just seems silly to have him be so strong but not participate in battles eventually. I guess if there's some powerful enemy humans, then he can fight.
Makes me kind of convinced that he's going to die, to be honest. Powerful badass characters don't usually show how powerful they are and walk away from the show unscathed. :/ And given how this show is treating its characters, it wouldn't be that surprising.
Dammit I wish what you said isn't true but I can't deny the feeling that he's gonna die.....Why do all the badass have such fates?
I've actually never heard of this show. o.O I'm missing out on a lot of the newer ones. How is it so far?
Another comrade from Japan?
It's popular because it features M7. And somehow the opening single was released at the same time as the show aired. Completely unheard of.
Actually happens every so often, though more so with games than animes. Shimotsukin's song for that Innocent Grey thing was out so long before actual release iirc.
On January 21 2012 12:14 Necrophantasia wrote: It's popular because it features M7. And somehow the opening single was released at the same time as the show aired. Completely unheard of.
So apparently the commander is OP? I would guess he actually has the ability to fight Noise or it wouldn't make sense that they'd give him so much power but be useless against them. Seems like the ending of ep1 wasn't a complete troll after all as we see Hibiki begin to transform to dark crazy mode a bit. Maybe this is an effect of having the Kanade's artifact lodged in her body or maybe because she's using "someone else's" song. They conveniently explained complaints about Noise as they only just recently appeared frequently and only in this one area. Finally, we have some new girl using some fancy named armor. Could be good or bad guy; I get the feeling it's some more powerful version of Symphogear but a different division.
Hibiki ditching her friend multiple times is already annoying. Probably will play a role later on as she will chase Hibiki to the battlefield and die a stupid death or something like that.
Well, in the first episode, the ending is already known. She's not going to die, Hibiki is. Also, commander probably can't sing, so he doesn't have any armor and would probably die trying to kill Noise (you do have to touch them unless you have some kind of weapon like Kanade and Tsubasa did).
Oh I got them mixed up. In that case, she'll follow Hibiki to the battlefield and Hibiki will die trying to protect her. I agree regarding the commander, but it just seems silly to have him be so strong but not participate in battles eventually. I guess if there's some powerful enemy humans, then he can fight.
Makes me kind of convinced that he's going to die, to be honest. Powerful badass characters don't usually show how powerful they are and walk away from the show unscathed. :/ And given how this show is treating its characters, it wouldn't be that surprising.
Dammit I wish what you said isn't true but I can't deny the feeling that he's gonna die.....Why do all the badass have such fates?
I've actually never heard of this show. o.O I'm missing out on a lot of the newer ones. How is it so far?
Another comrade from Japan?
It's popular because it features M7. And somehow the opening single was released at the same time as the show aired. Completely unheard of.
Actually happens every so often, though more so with games than animes. Shimotsukin's song for that Innocent Grey thing was out so long before actual release iirc.
I thought that was because the release was delayed, but the hype train was already rolling?
Like Supercell's Hoshi ga matataku konna yoru ni which is supposed to be the ED to Mahou Tsukai no Yoru, but it was released last year.. and the game is still NOWHERE to be seen. (I know it has a scheduled April 4th release, but at this point, I'm going to believe it when I have it my grubby hands)
So apparently the commander is OP? I would guess he actually has the ability to fight Noise or it wouldn't make sense that they'd give him so much power but be useless against them. Seems like the ending of ep1 wasn't a complete troll after all as we see Hibiki begin to transform to dark crazy mode a bit. Maybe this is an effect of having the Kanade's artifact lodged in her body or maybe because she's using "someone else's" song. They conveniently explained complaints about Noise as they only just recently appeared frequently and only in this one area. Finally, we have some new girl using some fancy named armor. Could be good or bad guy; I get the feeling it's some more powerful version of Symphogear but a different division.
Hibiki ditching her friend multiple times is already annoying. Probably will play a role later on as she will chase Hibiki to the battlefield and die a stupid death or something like that.
Well, in the first episode, the ending is already known. She's not going to die, Hibiki is. Also, commander probably can't sing, so he doesn't have any armor and would probably die trying to kill Noise (you do have to touch them unless you have some kind of weapon like Kanade and Tsubasa did).
Oh I got them mixed up. In that case, she'll follow Hibiki to the battlefield and Hibiki will die trying to protect her. I agree regarding the commander, but it just seems silly to have him be so strong but not participate in battles eventually. I guess if there's some powerful enemy humans, then he can fight.
Makes me kind of convinced that he's going to die, to be honest. Powerful badass characters don't usually show how powerful they are and walk away from the show unscathed. :/ And given how this show is treating its characters, it wouldn't be that surprising.
Dammit I wish what you said isn't true but I can't deny the feeling that he's gonna die.....Why do all the badass have such fates?
I've actually never heard of this show. o.O I'm missing out on a lot of the newer ones. How is it so far?
Another comrade from Japan?
It's popular because it features M7. And somehow the opening single was released at the same time as the show aired. Completely unheard of.
Actually happens every so often, though more so with games than animes. Shimotsukin's song for that Innocent Grey thing was out so long before actual release iirc.
I thought that was because the release was delayed, but the hype train was already rolling?
Like Supercell's Hoshi ga matataku konna yoru ni which is supposed to be the ED to Mahou Tsukai no Yoru, but it was released last year.. and the game is still NOWHERE to be seen.
Yeah games are a lot more subjected to the vaporware status Though even if MahoYoru wasn't delayed again the song release was going to be earlier.
Incidentally I don't believe the April 4th date even if they have a demo out.
With Synchrogazer I think it was a mix of hype for the anime and the fact that the other song was theme song for Drama that started airing in Dec.
I don't know how related it is, but lately, Nana has been releasing something around her birthday every year. Having Synchrogazer released in January was very unsurprising to me. When it was announced, I just thought "so that's what she's releasing this time." Maybe it's all coincidental and in my mind though.
And for those who are unaware, today (Japan time) is Nana's birthday! YAY!
On January 21 2012 04:13 Ecael wrote: People make sounds, people memorized a certain order sounds come out, people slap said card using process of elimination. It is nice and all to want to include the random things in there or to leave a ton of shit romanized so people can follow, but frankly that's useless for market penetration. Crunchy is operating a business here.
Because they speak Japanese too quickly and I can't understand them with my very very limited experience with the language. I can't pick out the words they use to refer to the cards from the rest of the words they use. I want to see the subtitles help me out here instead of taking the meaning out of the things the characters say.
What is Commie's excuse then? They are making a poor choice in translating things that are important to understanding the anime. Therefore, Commie's subs are inferior to Saitei's. And Crunchysub's are just as bad.
At that I don't even see the point of bothering to wait for something like Saitei's unless some aspect of their translation draws you. All the cultural meaning behind karuta lies in the phrases used, there is no meaning whatsoever in the 'sport' itself. So yeah if you like that aspect of Japanese literature, all the power to you. I'd recommend you go buy a book and read those instead of bothering with watching an anime about karuta.
I don't care about Japanese culture. I was using that as an example where translating loses meaning of the said thing. It is very similar to this.
If you have enough time to complain about a volunteer service, I recommend you just learn the language. It isn't exactly hard. Either way, I don't exactly see any reason that subtitles need to help you with that, especially if you aren't trying to learn about the tanka (iirc, don't think there are any choka used). Also I don't feel like it is important to understanding the anime at all, invariably it is just process of elimination based on what they have heard already.
Anyways, I don't use subs, wasn't commie just repackaged Horriblesub?
Like Michael said, there are times where you need to accept loss in context so things make sense at all in the language that you speak. Sometimes that means you lean toward very literal translations w/ plenty of notes and that certainly can work. More often than not people aren't anal and just try to understand things with the contexts that they have. If you are anal about the former, you might as well as go learn the language and read source.
Yes, I am kind of anal about that kind of stuff. Yes, I learned the languages I needed to read those things' sources.
Yeah Ok. Somehow "free" or "volunteer" are magic words that escape things from criticism. Am I not allowed to dislike things? What a bullshit argument.
On January 21 2012 04:13 Ecael wrote: People make sounds, people memorized a certain order sounds come out, people slap said card using process of elimination. It is nice and all to want to include the random things in there or to leave a ton of shit romanized so people can follow, but frankly that's useless for market penetration. Crunchy is operating a business here.
Because they speak Japanese too quickly and I can't understand them with my very very limited experience with the language. I can't pick out the words they use to refer to the cards from the rest of the words they use. I want to see the subtitles help me out here instead of taking the meaning out of the things the characters say.
What is Commie's excuse then? They are making a poor choice in translating things that are important to understanding the anime. Therefore, Commie's subs are inferior to Saitei's. And Crunchysub's are just as bad.
At that I don't even see the point of bothering to wait for something like Saitei's unless some aspect of their translation draws you. All the cultural meaning behind karuta lies in the phrases used, there is no meaning whatsoever in the 'sport' itself. So yeah if you like that aspect of Japanese literature, all the power to you. I'd recommend you go buy a book and read those instead of bothering with watching an anime about karuta.
I don't care about Japanese culture. I was using that as an example where translating loses meaning of the said thing. It is very similar to this.
If you have enough time to complain about a volunteer service, I recommend you just learn the language. It isn't exactly hard. Either way, I don't exactly see any reason that subtitles need to help you with that, especially if you aren't trying to learn about the tanka (iirc, don't think there are any choka used). Also I don't feel like it is important to understanding the anime at all, invariably it is just process of elimination based on what they have heard already.
Anyways, I don't use subs, wasn't commie just repackaged Horriblesub?
Like Michael said, there are times where you need to accept loss in context so things make sense at all in the language that you speak. Sometimes that means you lean toward very literal translations w/ plenty of notes and that certainly can work. More often than not people aren't anal and just try to understand things with the contexts that they have. If you are anal about the former, you might as well as go learn the language and read source.
Yes, I am kind of anal about that kind of stuff. Yes, I learned the languages I needed to read those things' sources.
Yeah Ok. Somehow "free" or "volunteer" are magic words that escape things from criticism. Am I not allowed to dislike things? What a bullshit argument.
Last time I checked, beggars can't be choosers. So yes, free and volunteer are in fact magical words that renders criticism worthless. Take it or leave it, or hope that they share similar views as you and take your opinion for something. I do like how you ignore the actual points and went on to whine about your rights to hate on things.
You are certainly allowed to dislike things, you are also crazy if you think if 'constructive criticism' amounts to anything to people who aren't asking for them.
1. Out of all the characters that appeared so far, only Tsugumi's Void has not been shown. I wonder what kind of development it would take to take out her Void; 2. Who has the highest chance of dying right now? I have a strong feeling that Hare will die eventually in the series; there is also a high chance that Shouta will (cheap emotional bomb). Heck, I think except Ayase, Tsugumi and class rep, everyone else in the school has potential death flags. Furthermore, given Inori's nature, I have a feeling that she might not survive until the end of series.
Ayase sadly enough. She also a combat type so it would make sense for her to die in battle. She is an awesome character but she been having a slight rivalary with that psychotic blonde kid because she kinda stole his mecha. I think he will fight her and she will do something brave and protect Shu once he become the leader of funeral parlor but realizing her failure to save Gai she will have more determination this time not to lose Shu as well and as a result die protecting Shu. This will piss off Shu and Shu will end his life. I think the death of a signifigant character wont happen till late late in the series. I am expecting something big like the ending of R2 where everything jut blow up and shit and went to war, minus the plot holes and the insanity of how R2 ended. It will just probably be something of that caliber imo. In the end, someone will die and if I had a second vote, it would be Hare. She is just too nice....nice character like her are just meant to die and piss everyone off.
I kinda doubt Ayase is going to die, mainly just based on expectations set by past anime. Reasons are that I don't see Ayase as being a true-love interest, unlike someone like Inori or Hare. That saves her alot of death flags. Ayase reminds me alot of Kallen from Geass (aside from the crippled part lol), and we all know she survived just fine. But take Hare for example. Childhood friend, reminds me of Shirley, who was killed. In terms of development that would arise out of deaths, Shu would probably be affected alot more by her, seeing as how they have known each other longer, and how she is thus far an innocent civilian.
Whats his name, the blonde kid, Daryl, right? I highly doubt that he will kill Ayase. Thus far in the show, he has been defeating her. However, that just means to me that now that Shu has her new Void unlocked, the tables will turn, and she will beat him during whenever the climatic battle is. Daryl seems to be setup for "tragedy", if you can call it that with him, seeing as how practically everything has been going wrong with him ever since Shu took his void out earlier in the show.
On January 21 2012 04:13 Ecael wrote: People make sounds, people memorized a certain order sounds come out, people slap said card using process of elimination. It is nice and all to want to include the random things in there or to leave a ton of shit romanized so people can follow, but frankly that's useless for market penetration. Crunchy is operating a business here.
Because they speak Japanese too quickly and I can't understand them with my very very limited experience with the language. I can't pick out the words they use to refer to the cards from the rest of the words they use. I want to see the subtitles help me out here instead of taking the meaning out of the things the characters say.
What is Commie's excuse then? They are making a poor choice in translating things that are important to understanding the anime. Therefore, Commie's subs are inferior to Saitei's. And Crunchysub's are just as bad.
At that I don't even see the point of bothering to wait for something like Saitei's unless some aspect of their translation draws you. All the cultural meaning behind karuta lies in the phrases used, there is no meaning whatsoever in the 'sport' itself. So yeah if you like that aspect of Japanese literature, all the power to you. I'd recommend you go buy a book and read those instead of bothering with watching an anime about karuta.
I don't care about Japanese culture. I was using that as an example where translating loses meaning of the said thing. It is very similar to this.
If you have enough time to complain about a volunteer service, I recommend you just learn the language. It isn't exactly hard. Either way, I don't exactly see any reason that subtitles need to help you with that, especially if you aren't trying to learn about the tanka (iirc, don't think there are any choka used). Also I don't feel like it is important to understanding the anime at all, invariably it is just process of elimination based on what they have heard already.
Anyways, I don't use subs, wasn't commie just repackaged Horriblesub?
Like Michael said, there are times where you need to accept loss in context so things make sense at all in the language that you speak. Sometimes that means you lean toward very literal translations w/ plenty of notes and that certainly can work. More often than not people aren't anal and just try to understand things with the contexts that they have. If you are anal about the former, you might as well as go learn the language and read source.
Yes, I am kind of anal about that kind of stuff. Yes, I learned the languages I needed to read those things' sources.
Yeah Ok. Somehow "free" or "volunteer" are magic words that escape things from criticism. Am I not allowed to dislike things? What a bullshit argument.
Last time I checked, beggars can't be choosers. So yes, free and volunteer are in fact magical words that renders criticism worthless. Take it or leave it, or hope that they share similar views as you and take your opinion for something. I do like how you ignore the actual points and went on to whine about your rights to hate on things.
You are certainly allowed to dislike things, you are also crazy if you think if 'constructive criticism' amounts to anything to people who aren't asking for them.
I didn't ignore a single argument. I pointed out why they were bad arguments and moved on. I'm not giving constructive critisism... I'm doing the opposite. I'm saying why crunchysubs and commie's subs for chihayafuru are bad and why people should be watching saitei's subs
On January 21 2012 04:13 Ecael wrote: People make sounds, people memorized a certain order sounds come out, people slap said card using process of elimination. It is nice and all to want to include the random things in there or to leave a ton of shit romanized so people can follow, but frankly that's useless for market penetration. Crunchy is operating a business here.
Because they speak Japanese too quickly and I can't understand them with my very very limited experience with the language. I can't pick out the words they use to refer to the cards from the rest of the words they use. I want to see the subtitles help me out here instead of taking the meaning out of the things the characters say.
What is Commie's excuse then? They are making a poor choice in translating things that are important to understanding the anime. Therefore, Commie's subs are inferior to Saitei's. And Crunchysub's are just as bad.
At that I don't even see the point of bothering to wait for something like Saitei's unless some aspect of their translation draws you. All the cultural meaning behind karuta lies in the phrases used, there is no meaning whatsoever in the 'sport' itself. So yeah if you like that aspect of Japanese literature, all the power to you. I'd recommend you go buy a book and read those instead of bothering with watching an anime about karuta.
I don't care about Japanese culture. I was using that as an example where translating loses meaning of the said thing. It is very similar to this.
If you have enough time to complain about a volunteer service, I recommend you just learn the language. It isn't exactly hard. Either way, I don't exactly see any reason that subtitles need to help you with that, especially if you aren't trying to learn about the tanka (iirc, don't think there are any choka used). Also I don't feel like it is important to understanding the anime at all, invariably it is just process of elimination based on what they have heard already.
Anyways, I don't use subs, wasn't commie just repackaged Horriblesub?
Like Michael said, there are times where you need to accept loss in context so things make sense at all in the language that you speak. Sometimes that means you lean toward very literal translations w/ plenty of notes and that certainly can work. More often than not people aren't anal and just try to understand things with the contexts that they have. If you are anal about the former, you might as well as go learn the language and read source.
Yes, I am kind of anal about that kind of stuff. Yes, I learned the languages I needed to read those things' sources.
Yeah Ok. Somehow "free" or "volunteer" are magic words that escape things from criticism. Am I not allowed to dislike things? What a bullshit argument.
Last time I checked, beggars can't be choosers. So yes, free and volunteer are in fact magical words that renders criticism worthless. Take it or leave it, or hope that they share similar views as you and take your opinion for something. I do like how you ignore the actual points and went on to whine about your rights to hate on things.
You are certainly allowed to dislike things, you are also crazy if you think if 'constructive criticism' amounts to anything to people who aren't asking for them.
I didn't ignore a single argument. I pointed out why they were bad arguments and moved on. I'm not giving constructive critisism... I'm doing the opposite. I'm saying why crunchysubs and commie's subs for chihayafuru are bad and why people should be watching saitei's subs
Calling things bullshit = pointing out that they are bad arguments? I like this.
I'm saying why crunchysubs and commie's subs for chihayafuru are bad and why people should be watching saitei's subs
Am I not allowed to dislike bad arguments? What a bullshit argument.
So apparently the commander is OP? I would guess he actually has the ability to fight Noise or it wouldn't make sense that they'd give him so much power but be useless against them. Seems like the ending of ep1 wasn't a complete troll after all as we see Hibiki begin to transform to dark crazy mode a bit. Maybe this is an effect of having the Kanade's artifact lodged in her body or maybe because she's using "someone else's" song. They conveniently explained complaints about Noise as they only just recently appeared frequently and only in this one area. Finally, we have some new girl using some fancy named armor. Could be good or bad guy; I get the feeling it's some more powerful version of Symphogear but a different division.
Hibiki ditching her friend multiple times is already annoying. Probably will play a role later on as she will chase Hibiki to the battlefield and die a stupid death or something like that.
The commander is voiced by Hideo Ishikawa. Ishikawa also voiced this guy: Nagare Ryoma from Getter Robo. It would be a crime to make him NOT OP lol
Anyway, as had been said, 100% sure the reason he doesn't fight the Noise is lack of a Symphogear for him to use. Normal weapons have already been shown ineffective. As for Hibiki and Miku, we already know Hibiki is going to die, and Miku will live. The question is how will their relationship play out up to that point. I agree that eventually she will get curious, and follow her out onto the battlefield. Another possibility is that maybe Miku will be part of a crowd getting attacked by the Noise like in the first episode, and then Hibiki shows up to save her. From how Miku was talking in the first ep, its seems like she will find out at some point or another that Hibiki is fighting. I think eventually Miku is just going to get pissed at Hibiki, create drama that way, maybe concluding with Miku discovering the Symphogear stuff.
On January 21 2012 04:13 Ecael wrote: People make sounds, people memorized a certain order sounds come out, people slap said card using process of elimination. It is nice and all to want to include the random things in there or to leave a ton of shit romanized so people can follow, but frankly that's useless for market penetration. Crunchy is operating a business here.
Because they speak Japanese too quickly and I can't understand them with my very very limited experience with the language. I can't pick out the words they use to refer to the cards from the rest of the words they use. I want to see the subtitles help me out here instead of taking the meaning out of the things the characters say.
What is Commie's excuse then? They are making a poor choice in translating things that are important to understanding the anime. Therefore, Commie's subs are inferior to Saitei's. And Crunchysub's are just as bad.
At that I don't even see the point of bothering to wait for something like Saitei's unless some aspect of their translation draws you. All the cultural meaning behind karuta lies in the phrases used, there is no meaning whatsoever in the 'sport' itself. So yeah if you like that aspect of Japanese literature, all the power to you. I'd recommend you go buy a book and read those instead of bothering with watching an anime about karuta.
I don't care about Japanese culture. I was using that as an example where translating loses meaning of the said thing. It is very similar to this.
If you have enough time to complain about a volunteer service, I recommend you just learn the language. It isn't exactly hard. Either way, I don't exactly see any reason that subtitles need to help you with that, especially if you aren't trying to learn about the tanka (iirc, don't think there are any choka used). Also I don't feel like it is important to understanding the anime at all, invariably it is just process of elimination based on what they have heard already.
Anyways, I don't use subs, wasn't commie just repackaged Horriblesub?
Like Michael said, there are times where you need to accept loss in context so things make sense at all in the language that you speak. Sometimes that means you lean toward very literal translations w/ plenty of notes and that certainly can work. More often than not people aren't anal and just try to understand things with the contexts that they have. If you are anal about the former, you might as well as go learn the language and read source.
Yes, I am kind of anal about that kind of stuff. Yes, I learned the languages I needed to read those things' sources.
Yeah Ok. Somehow "free" or "volunteer" are magic words that escape things from criticism. Am I not allowed to dislike things? What a bullshit argument.
Last time I checked, beggars can't be choosers. So yes, free and volunteer are in fact magical words that renders criticism worthless. Take it or leave it, or hope that they share similar views as you and take your opinion for something. I do like how you ignore the actual points and went on to whine about your rights to hate on things.
You are certainly allowed to dislike things, you are also crazy if you think if 'constructive criticism' amounts to anything to people who aren't asking for them.
I didn't ignore a single argument. I pointed out why they were bad arguments and moved on. I'm not giving constructive critisism... I'm doing the opposite. I'm saying why crunchysubs and commie's subs for chihayafuru are bad and why people should be watching saitei's subs
Calling things bullshit = pointing out that they are bad arguments? I like this.
On January 21 2012 04:13 Ecael wrote: People make sounds, people memorized a certain order sounds come out, people slap said card using process of elimination. It is nice and all to want to include the random things in there or to leave a ton of shit romanized so people can follow, but frankly that's useless for market penetration. Crunchy is operating a business here.
At that I don't even see the point of bothering to wait for something like Saitei's unless some aspect of their translation draws you. All the cultural meaning behind karuta lies in the phrases used, there is no meaning whatsoever in the 'sport' itself. So yeah if you like that aspect of Japanese literature, all the power to you. I'd recommend you go buy a book and read those instead of bothering with watching an anime about karuta.
But when I watch a Go/Chess/Shougi series I watch it for the deep symbolism regarding each piece, each location, and what it means in relation to the culture that sport was invented in Why should karuta be any different, or are you just discriminating against card games?
For you I recommend this masterpiece.
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I never noticed this. Do you guys think this scene, too, just like many others, was actually given this much thought? (mostly referring to TL Note #2). And I won't spoil it but when I say many others, if you finished the series I'm sure you know what I mean.
Though even if MahoYoru wasn't delayed again the song release was going to be earlier.![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/18ljT.png)
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Why should karuta be any different, or are you just discriminating against card games?![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/kSK8n.jpg)
