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KazeHydra
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Japan2788 Posts
October 18 2011 06:25 GMT
#30321
On October 18 2011 13:06 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 13:01 NationInArms wrote:
On October 18 2011 12:48 KazeHydra wrote:
On October 18 2011 11:37 boon2537 wrote:
On October 18 2011 11:24 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 11:18 boon2537 wrote:
5 Centimeter per Second is fucking beautiful.....

I didn't get it what was the point of the story?

I'm not 100% sure, but I think the story points out that sometimes people's life does not converge like a cherry blossom or a rocket which moves 5 centimeters per second or 5 kilometers per hour away from where it starts. The main character and his girlfriend continue their life independently from each other, and still cherish their beautiful childhood memories. I don't really get the point of act 2, though. Is it to emphasize the main theme that sometimes you don't get to be with your loved one ? or Is it to show that the main character should have move on faster, so other people, expressly the girl, could see him available and are able to reach him ? I don't know -.-

It's pretty surprising to see how deep an one hour movie can be

I love 5 cm so much. It's so short yet so beautiful. It's one of those things that doesn't really have a real interpretation (I guess with the exception of the guy who wrote the story), but that's just one of the reasons it makes it such an amazing piece of work: there's just so much you can get out of such a simple story. Here's my take on it.
+ Show Spoiler +

With the first part, you get a story of 2 naive children who truly believe they may be able to eventually be together forever. They've experienced so little in life and jump into infatuation and child love at finding their simple similarities which no one else shared with them which only fueled their attraction to each other. The idea of finding a like-minded person, especially one of the opposite gender, when no one else could understand you is the pivotal point of their relationship. However, "fate" or rather reality pulls them apart physically and this slowly pulls their hearts apart from each other as well. The letters back and forth are their only connection, but they both treasure these moments more than one can imagine. The long train ride, delayed again and again by the weather is like the realistic barrier of their ever-growing distance. Yet because of their still young and innocent minds and their powerful attachment to one so similar to each other, they are able to, for a single night, break this barrier and meet again. But with that single kiss under the barren cherry blossom tree, reality strikes hard and a small crack in their relationship appears which will eventually trigger their inevitable separation.

The second part with Kanae takes a step in a slightly different direction portraying another kind of naive love while still continuing the sad tale of Toono and Akari. Kanae is a girl who is helplessly in love. Always timing her meetings with him, always so quiet and shy yet always watching the man she thinks she loves. Frustrated with herself and her inability to convey her feelings to her "ideal guy," her loss of ability to surf can be seen as her struggle against naivety. Believing she is right, believing that what she feels is true love; believing that she can surf and knowing that she has that ability yet there is a barrier. The day she surfs again is the day she comes to a painful realization of how the man she loved has never once looked at her. What she thought was a possible growing affection was merely a continued meaningless personality of kindness. He was a person who was always looking past her and she had herself convinced he was at least looking in her general direction. Thus they are the opposite of Akari and Toono - close physically but their hearts could not be farther apart. She says she will love him forever - and she probably will, but this was a love of admiration and infatuation. It was her first experience with such powerful emotions and the years she spent investing in them caused them to grow to the point of affecting her as a person; they become a meaningful part of her existence so while the feelings themselves are for someone who she perceived existed but did not, they are too important to ever let go of.

Then we have Toono who is now being portrayed as an apathetic yet kind person. Successful in school, popular in school, yet a boy who is still looking deep into the past. When he looks at a person, he does not see his classmate but a past classmate. Everywhere he looks, he sees Akari, the girl who once, and still does, meant the world to him. But that is no more. The exact circumstances are unclear, but the letters stopped. The distance was far too great and their hearts were no longer in the same place. Time is the most powerful and unstoppable force that can change emotions, feelings, beliefs, and relationships. He is always writing text messages but never sending them. What he writes and who he wishes to send them to is unknown, but it is a clear indication that he once again is isolated like so many years ago before he met Akari. He longs for companionship and a person who can understand him, and this does not necessarily mean Akari. Anyone would suffice but as no one does, Akari is the only one on his mind. These constant thoughts of her fill his mind as much as he fills Kanae's, but the effect is something far different. Rather than growing a love out of something that does not exist, he is multiplying one that did, if but for a fleeting moment under that tree. With nothing else to do with his life, with no one else to talk to, the amount of emotional investment he has in Akari reaches something that can only be done over the course of his few but long years. But he knows the truth: he will probably never see her again, and if he does, she won't feel the same.

The final part of this story is short and straightforward but leaves the open-ended interpretation of the true moral of the story. Toono has been living an average life of an average person with an average job and average relationships. He recently quit his job and is ignoring his pseudo-girlfriend. Despite his relationships with women, he is still stuck in the past and no surprise there. He spent his entire youth with eyes for only one girl, now a woman. He watched her, waited for her letters, thought of her, always. She was the one who understood him, but now she is gone from his life, leaving his heart as an empty void that can't be filled. Akari on the other hand is now engaged but clearly has not forgotten him. A dream of that day from reading that undelivered letter: she remembers him fondly, but not as a lover. She has come to terms with her naivety at some point and realized she needed to move on. She realized that what they had was not real love - it was child's play. But for Toono, if you deal with child's play long enough, it can become reality. The final scene by the train is a final confirmation of reality. He recognizes her, he knows it's her for he has only seen her every day of his life. In his mind, he watched her grow up and knows every feature that she will have. The trains pass as he turns. He cannot look away because he has waited for this moment since that fateful day they parted. But she can. Regardless of whether she did recognize him, regardless of whether she didn't, it doesn't matter. He is a memory to her. A good memory, but still just that. She may turn out of curiosity, but she will not give more time than that. The trains are done passing and only he remains, standing, looking at nothing. He leaves, knowing that this is reality. He has always known this reality as well, ever since that day. Reality struck them both that day in the cold winter; Akari eventually listened to it but Toono did not and this was the result.

The moral? Ambiguous and open to interpretation. I say it's a story that depicts the naivety of young love. Physical distance is something that will easily tear it apart, if slowly. To me, it's not so much about moving on but the process of learning about "true love." Your first few "loves" give emotions you aren't used to feeling and so it is very easy to become overly infatuated in a person. It is only after one gains experience in dealing with these emotions that one can begin to differentiate between "fake" and "real" love. This is not to say a first love may not become a real love, but it doesn't start out so meaningful. 5 Centimeters per Second, in my opinion, is thus a story depicting several different results of dealing with such naive love and effects of distance on them. 1) Toono dedicates his life to it and ends up unable to truly love a woman; 2) Kanae comes to terms with reality but her love for Toono is an essential part of her existence; 3) Akari moves on, understanding that her past feelings were but those of a child's, and eventually becomes engaged to a man who will bring her happiness. 3 different people dealing with first love 3 different ways resulting in 3 different lives.

Of course, you are free to interpret it any way you please. Some do think it's about moving on. Some say it's about settling for 2nd best. Some say it's about never giving up. I know one guy who says it's about traitorous women getting run over by trains because of karma. Regardless, it's a beautiful and meaningful story of love and distance.


That was DEEP man, DEEP. *sniff, sniff* This should be spotlighted or something. TT


That was fcking amazing bro. I feel like you deserve a award or something. I couldnt agree with u more on all points.

Im fcking crying hard man.. This song is intense...

heh thanks for the positive feedback. I don't deserve anything; Makoto Shinkai deserves all the credit for his beautiful creation. If you haven't already, I highly recommend watching his other works. Tenmon does the music for them as well (did 5 cm music too; basically always does music for Shinkai), so the soundtrack is equally beautiful. The Places Promised in Our Early Days is an alternate reality setting and Voices of a Distant Star is sci-fi and a far more tragic/depressing story but both are quite similar to 5 cm. However, I feel these 2 stories were but practice for his masterpiece of 5 cm. His newest work, Hoshi o Ou Kodomo came out awhile ago and I'm still waiting for the dvd/subs to come out in late November. I have high expectations for it.
"Because I know this promise that won’t disappear will turn even a cause of tears into strength. You taught me that if I can believe, there is nothing that cannot come true." - Nana Mizuki (Yakusoku) 17:36 ils kaze got me into nana 17:36 ils by his blog
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 07:39:26
October 18 2011 07:37 GMT
#30322
Did you guys know that Gundam AGE has characters from Gundam X in it?

For example, Jamil:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
Inb4 his ear's bleed


Tiffa:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
She dyed her hair. I predict her to be Lalah Tiffa Minerva.


Also, Kamille from Zeta Gundam is in Gundam AGE:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
KAMILLE IS A MAN'S NAME!
LOOOOL



Finally, for those of you who are completely dismissing Gundam AGE simply because of character design, did you know that it is very possible to be a good anime with designs like that? Look at fuckin GaoGaiGar:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Character design isn't THAT much different there, and its a classic! Also, apparently some of the staff working on Gundam AGE were part of the team that did the Yuusha series.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Owned Noob
Profile Joined April 2010
United States731 Posts
October 18 2011 07:59 GMT
#30323
is horizon really gonna only get 1-cour? isnt each volume like the size of a phone book? how are they gonna fit everything in lol
jaedong the man with the huge dong
Naphal
Profile Joined December 2010
Germany2099 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 09:40:23
October 18 2011 09:12 GMT
#30324
the new last exile:

where do these pointy ears come from, i dont remember seeing them in the original, now it looks like princess zelda has made an appearance -.-, apart from that, beautiful animation, and i just know the overall plot will blow me away x), ah and in the summary there was mention of "free and peaceful skies" well seeing the OP and the pirates, i think we can expect some action, maybe not as much as in the original, too much all-out war is not healthy after all.

edit: yeah after finishing the episode i kinda have to go back on the last sentence
blahz0r
Profile Joined December 2010
3030 Posts
October 18 2011 11:52 GMT
#30325
On October 18 2011 16:37 Sentenal wrote:
Did you guys know that Gundam AGE has characters from Gundam X in it?

For example, Jamil:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
Inb4 his ear's bleed


Tiffa:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
She dyed her hair. I predict her to be Lalah Tiffa Minerva.


Also, Kamille from Zeta Gundam is in Gundam AGE:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
KAMILLE IS A MAN'S NAME!
LOOOOL



Finally, for those of you who are completely dismissing Gundam AGE simply because of character design, did you know that it is very possible to be a good anime with designs like that? Look at fuckin GaoGaiGar:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Character design isn't THAT much different there, and its a classic! Also, apparently some of the staff working on Gundam AGE were part of the team that did the Yuusha series.


That never came to mind. You always point out the little/weird things for Gundam shows. The Kamille one was good

[04:48:28] <blahz0r> wala game
[04:48:33] <wala> game what blah
[04:48:37] <blahz0r> game
[04:48:40] <wala> :<
[04:48:43] <wala> going to sleep now
[04:48:45] * wala is now known as wala-sleep
[04:48:47] <wala-sleep> goodnight
[04:48:47] <blahz0r> wala dodge
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
October 18 2011 13:54 GMT
#30326
On October 18 2011 16:59 Owned Noob wrote:
is horizon really gonna only get 1-cour? isnt each volume like the size of a phone book? how are they gonna fit everything in lol

There is a very simple answer, they don't. Uta and I are already complaining about the things they seem to be cutting.
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
October 18 2011 14:06 GMT
#30327
After being depressed all night about 5cm per second, and trying to sleep it off.

I finally decided to watch Ben-to 02.

And its fcking AWESOME.

Something about that anime that just captures me, its like the new Infinite Stratos / Mayo Chiki for me.
Skol
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 18 2011 14:23 GMT
#30328
On October 18 2011 20:52 blahz0r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 16:37 Sentenal wrote:
Did you guys know that Gundam AGE has characters from Gundam X in it?

For example, Jamil:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
Inb4 his ear's bleed


Tiffa:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
She dyed her hair. I predict her to be Lalah Tiffa Minerva.


Also, Kamille from Zeta Gundam is in Gundam AGE:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
[image loading]
KAMILLE IS A MAN'S NAME!
LOOOOL



Finally, for those of you who are completely dismissing Gundam AGE simply because of character design, did you know that it is very possible to be a good anime with designs like that? Look at fuckin GaoGaiGar:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Character design isn't THAT much different there, and its a classic! Also, apparently some of the staff working on Gundam AGE were part of the team that did the Yuusha series.


That never came to mind. You always point out the little/weird things for Gundam shows. The Kamille one was good

[04:48:28] <blahz0r> wala game
[04:48:33] <wala> game what blah
[04:48:37] <blahz0r> game
[04:48:40] <wala> :<
[04:48:43] <wala> going to sleep now
[04:48:45] * wala is now known as wala-sleep
[04:48:47] <wala-sleep> goodnight
[04:48:47] <blahz0r> wala dodge


This is why no one wants wala end. Because inevitably, he'll get sick of you and dodge you.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 17:13:48
October 18 2011 17:03 GMT
#30329
Hey, Blast

13:00 Seki http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=95875&currentpage=585#11698
13:01 Ferrose I'm glad that ethnocentric asshole was banned
13:01 ecael faze = phase
13:01 ecael op
13:01 Ferrose you don't talk to my uke like that
13:01 Ferrose I'll [censored] [imagine who]
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 18 2011 18:19 GMT
#30330
On October 18 2011 23:06 Emnjay808 wrote:
After being depressed all night about 5cm per second, and trying to sleep it off.

I finally decided to watch Ben-to 02.

And its fcking AWESOME.

Something about that anime that just captures me, its like the new Infinite Stratos / Mayo Chiki for me.

If its the new Infinite Stratos, shouldn't that mean its terrible?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
October 18 2011 18:23 GMT
#30331
On October 19 2011 03:19 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 23:06 Emnjay808 wrote:
After being depressed all night about 5cm per second, and trying to sleep it off.

I finally decided to watch Ben-to 02.

And its fcking AWESOME.

Something about that anime that just captures me, its like the new Infinite Stratos / Mayo Chiki for me.

If its the new Infinite Stratos, shouldn't that mean its terrible?


Only if you're terrible at watching intellectually.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 18 2011 18:37 GMT
#30332
On October 19 2011 03:23 Southlight wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 03:19 Sentenal wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:06 Emnjay808 wrote:
After being depressed all night about 5cm per second, and trying to sleep it off.

I finally decided to watch Ben-to 02.

And its fcking AWESOME.

Something about that anime that just captures me, its like the new Infinite Stratos / Mayo Chiki for me.

If its the new Infinite Stratos, shouldn't that mean its terrible?


Only if you're terrible at watching intellectually.


Yeah, you need to watch Ben-to as if it's a work of art. Only then can you understand the masterful talent that's gone into the show.

+ Show Spoiler +
I kid. This shit is pretty bad. Probably better than IS though IMO.
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 18:46:50
October 18 2011 18:45 GMT
#30333
What you didn't know...
is that Ben-to is symbolic of the poverty-stricken countries. It takes place in a modern first-world setting to juxtapose "a world in which food is plentiful" with the grotesque side of man in which food is a life-or-death commodity, one in which people are more than willing to resort to violence to get. One in which connections, gender, and other such "civilized" social hierarchies don't matter. The main character is like a Peace Corps member who's been sent to China and wants to woo the love of his life with food, but because of his weak, mental and physical state from being pampered by a first-world society, cannot, and must train to become a real man before his courtship can continue.



Will he succeed? Will he become all that he can be?
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
Nagisama
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada4481 Posts
October 18 2011 19:13 GMT
#30334
+ Show Spoiler [hayate 341] +
"she's so overflowing with smartphone power, her face turned into an emoticon!" LOL

Last couple weeks have felt pretty bleh, since it was all fillers. No Hina either to make it better. Was not expecting the end to be so touching though.
Calendar"Everyone who has accomplished more than you has no life; Everyone who has accomplished less than you is a noob." | Elem: "nagi is actually really smart"
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-18 19:56:56
October 18 2011 19:49 GMT
#30335
On October 19 2011 03:37 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 03:23 Southlight wrote:
On October 19 2011 03:19 Sentenal wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:06 Emnjay808 wrote:
After being depressed all night about 5cm per second, and trying to sleep it off.

I finally decided to watch Ben-to 02.

And its fcking AWESOME.

Something about that anime that just captures me, its like the new Infinite Stratos / Mayo Chiki for me.

If its the new Infinite Stratos, shouldn't that mean its terrible?


Only if you're terrible at watching intellectually.


Yeah, you need to watch Ben-to as if it's a work of art. Only then can you understand the masterful talent that's gone into the show.

+ Show Spoiler +
I kid. This shit is pretty bad. Probably better than IS though IMO.


Its the random parody shit they do that makes it hilarious and addicting. You know its generic, you know its cliche, you know there is dull fanservice. But yet, you keep watching it (for me at least). I was actually one of the few who enjoyed Softenni also.

Its definitely not for guys who like to take their anime seriously. These kinds of animes, the one that people dub as "shit", are the ones that truly takes the edge off for me.




Also:

I just finished Mirai Nikki 02.

If you havent started watching it, watch it! Regardless of ur taste of genre, its a must watch. Its fcking brilliant.
Skol
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
October 18 2011 20:00 GMT
#30336
If anyone uses the PS3 Media Server can you PM me what you're doing for the 8/10 Bit nonsense. I know I need CCCP, but when I try to get it to work with the media server it says all the files are corrupted. So, if anyone can help me please and thanks. Also, when you PM me please understand that I am completely computer retarded.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
October 18 2011 20:01 GMT
#30337
On October 19 2011 04:49 Emnjay808 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 03:37 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 19 2011 03:23 Southlight wrote:
On October 19 2011 03:19 Sentenal wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:06 Emnjay808 wrote:
After being depressed all night about 5cm per second, and trying to sleep it off.

I finally decided to watch Ben-to 02.

And its fcking AWESOME.

Something about that anime that just captures me, its like the new Infinite Stratos / Mayo Chiki for me.

If its the new Infinite Stratos, shouldn't that mean its terrible?


Only if you're terrible at watching intellectually.


Yeah, you need to watch Ben-to as if it's a work of art. Only then can you understand the masterful talent that's gone into the show.

+ Show Spoiler +
I kid. This shit is pretty bad. Probably better than IS though IMO.


Its the random parody shit they do that makes it hilarious and addicting. You know its generic, you know its cliche, you know there is dull fanservice. But yet, you keep watching it (for me at least). I was actually one of the few who enjoyed Softenni also.

Its definitely not for guys who like to take their anime seriously. These kinds of animes, the one that people dub as "shit", are the ones that truly takes the edge off for me.




Also:

I just finished Mirai Nikki 02.

If you havent started watching it, watch it! Regardless of ur taste of genre, its a must watch. Its fcking brilliant.

All I'm saying, is if that show is the new IS, then thats a bad thing.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Skilledblob
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany3392 Posts
October 18 2011 20:03 GMT
#30338
Horizon gets weirder and weirder. It's like I dont understand anything that goes on right now. I seriously hope that it gets better in the next episodes or I'll consider dropping the show. Even though I hope it gets better because I want to keep watching because of Koshimizu Ami
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
October 18 2011 20:03 GMT
#30339
On October 19 2011 05:01 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 19 2011 04:49 Emnjay808 wrote:
On October 19 2011 03:37 Zergneedsfood wrote:
On October 19 2011 03:23 Southlight wrote:
On October 19 2011 03:19 Sentenal wrote:
On October 18 2011 23:06 Emnjay808 wrote:
After being depressed all night about 5cm per second, and trying to sleep it off.

I finally decided to watch Ben-to 02.

And its fcking AWESOME.

Something about that anime that just captures me, its like the new Infinite Stratos / Mayo Chiki for me.

If its the new Infinite Stratos, shouldn't that mean its terrible?


Only if you're terrible at watching intellectually.


Yeah, you need to watch Ben-to as if it's a work of art. Only then can you understand the masterful talent that's gone into the show.

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I kid. This shit is pretty bad. Probably better than IS though IMO.


Its the random parody shit they do that makes it hilarious and addicting. You know its generic, you know its cliche, you know there is dull fanservice. But yet, you keep watching it (for me at least). I was actually one of the few who enjoyed Softenni also.

Its definitely not for guys who like to take their anime seriously. These kinds of animes, the one that people dub as "shit", are the ones that truly takes the edge off for me.




Also:

I just finished Mirai Nikki 02.

If you havent started watching it, watch it! Regardless of ur taste of genre, its a must watch. Its fcking brilliant.

All I'm saying, is if that show is the new IS, then thats a bad thing.


I also agree that its bad. But for some reason, I still enjoy it very much. xD
Skol
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
October 18 2011 20:05 GMT
#30340
On October 19 2011 05:00 tonight wrote:
If anyone uses the PS3 Media Server can you PM me what you're doing for the 8/10 Bit nonsense. I know I need CCCP, but when I try to get it to work with the media server it says all the files are corrupted. So, if anyone can help me please and thanks. Also, when you PM me please understand that I am completely computer retarded.


Use Media Player Classic.

I used to use the default Windows Media Player, then recently the newer video formats just ruined everything. But Media Player Classic should run any file ezpz, with CCCP ofc.
Skol
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