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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
June 11 2011 12:59 GMT
#23221
On June 11 2011 21:23 Shauni wrote:
Even if the majority in the anime thread dislike Casshern, I still do not think it'd be valid to remove it just because of that observation. I realize people may think the plot progresses slow through its episodic style and that there is not enough excitement, but you should still be able to see the strong points of the anime, which is its great atmosphere accompanied with an excellent soundtrack and art. Even though the philosophical questions it raises about being human has been done before, it still does so with originality and compassionate style.

I think it's more relevant discussing how the romance category should be reworked, like EchOne mentioned.


Yeah dude. Episodic animes rules! Katanagatari. <3
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 14:36:33
June 11 2011 14:36 GMT
#23222
On June 11 2011 14:29 CrAzzYmr.BC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 13:23 Sentenal wrote:
There should be a "Real Robot" category, and a "Super Robot" category. Both are mecha, but both genres are extremely different style wise, storywise, etc etc.


I agree with this. There is really good shows from each series that just having one column for it wouldn't be enough.

Yeah, like Super Robots are robots with [essentially in many cases] super powers, and Real Robots are walking tanks or jets. Very different, and should get their own categories.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9588 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 14:38:50
June 11 2011 14:38 GMT
#23223
Ga Rei Zero... I'm so confused.

Anyway why put Fate/Stay Night on the chart? Didn't people say it was terrible? Are you trying to fill in spots just for the sake of filling it up again?
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 11 2011 14:40 GMT
#23224
On June 11 2011 23:38 Latham wrote:
Ga Rei Zero... I'm so confused.

Anyway why put Fate/Stay Night on the chart? Didn't people say it was terrible? Are you trying to fill in spots just for the sake of filling it up again?

What are you confused about with Ga Rei Zero?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
June 11 2011 14:46 GMT
#23225
On June 11 2011 23:36 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 14:29 CrAzzYmr.BC wrote:
On June 11 2011 13:23 Sentenal wrote:
There should be a "Real Robot" category, and a "Super Robot" category. Both are mecha, but both genres are extremely different style wise, storywise, etc etc.


I agree with this. There is really good shows from each series that just having one column for it wouldn't be enough.

Yeah, like Super Robots are robots with [essentially in many cases] super powers, and Real Robots are walking tanks or jets. Very different, and should get their own categories.

I've always wondered how exactly mecha fans distinguish between the two of these, since giant robots are never a particularly realistic form of combat. As an example, tell me, which of the categories would Zeta Gundam and Gundam Seed belong to?
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 11 2011 14:52 GMT
#23226
On June 11 2011 23:46 Jumbled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 23:36 Sentenal wrote:
On June 11 2011 14:29 CrAzzYmr.BC wrote:
On June 11 2011 13:23 Sentenal wrote:
There should be a "Real Robot" category, and a "Super Robot" category. Both are mecha, but both genres are extremely different style wise, storywise, etc etc.


I agree with this. There is really good shows from each series that just having one column for it wouldn't be enough.

Yeah, like Super Robots are robots with [essentially in many cases] super powers, and Real Robots are walking tanks or jets. Very different, and should get their own categories.

I've always wondered how exactly mecha fans distinguish between the two of these, since giant robots are never a particularly realistic form of combat. As an example, tell me, which of the categories would Zeta Gundam and Gundam Seed belong to?

Easy, both Real Robot

Its easy to tell the difference. It isn't about realism. The term "Real Robot" and "Super Robot" are just derived from Super Robot Wars, as a simple classification to tell the two part. Anyway, the difference isn't about realism, its about Real Robots are used as tools of wars, like tanks and jets. And Super Robots crush the sun with a giant hammer because they have courage, or they cut Jupiter in half because they are insane, etc etc. Its very easy to tell the difference between a war story and a super hero story, IMO.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9588 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 14:56:06
June 11 2011 14:55 GMT
#23227
On June 11 2011 23:40 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 23:38 Latham wrote:
Ga Rei Zero... I'm so confused.

Anyway why put Fate/Stay Night on the chart? Didn't people say it was terrible? Are you trying to fill in spots just for the sake of filling it up again?

What are you confused about with Ga Rei Zero?


Who were the people in episode 1? Were they just some random agents, fodder for the story to advance? Why is Yomi alive? Why is she evil? Who's dat kid with butterflies? Will he ever die, in the manga? Kid was normal once, what turned him evil?
Are there any OVAs or anything more than the 12 episodes? Want moar.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 11 2011 14:58 GMT
#23228
On June 11 2011 23:55 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 23:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:38 Latham wrote:
Ga Rei Zero... I'm so confused.

Anyway why put Fate/Stay Night on the chart? Didn't people say it was terrible? Are you trying to fill in spots just for the sake of filling it up again?

What are you confused about with Ga Rei Zero?


Who were the people in episode 1? Were they just some random agents, fodder for the story to advance? Why is Yomi alive? Why is she evil? Who's dat kid with butterflies? Will he ever die, in the manga?
Are there any OVAs or anything more than the 12 episodes? Want moar.

The people in episode one just existed for the lolepisode1 thing haha. Did you finish Ga Rei Zero? Plus, answering alot of those questions spoils the manga, if you ever plan to read it.

There aren't any more animated Ga Rei productions, which is honestly kinda a good thing. The manga is not nearly as good as the anime, and is really silly for a long time. The manga didn't start getting "better" until the end, which was around the same time Ga Rei Zero was released lol
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
June 11 2011 15:00 GMT
#23229
On June 11 2011 23:58 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 23:55 Latham wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:38 Latham wrote:
Ga Rei Zero... I'm so confused.

Anyway why put Fate/Stay Night on the chart? Didn't people say it was terrible? Are you trying to fill in spots just for the sake of filling it up again?

What are you confused about with Ga Rei Zero?


Who were the people in episode 1? Were they just some random agents, fodder for the story to advance? Why is Yomi alive? Why is she evil? Who's dat kid with butterflies? Will he ever die, in the manga?
Are there any OVAs or anything more than the 12 episodes? Want moar.

The people in episode one just existed for the lolepisode1 thing haha. Did you finish Ga Rei Zero? Plus, answering alot of those questions spoils the manga, if you ever plan to read it.

There aren't any more animated Ga Rei productions, which is honestly kinda a good thing. The manga is not nearly as good as the anime, and is really silly for a long time. The manga didn't start getting "better" until the end, which was around the same time Ga Rei Zero was released lol


Ga Rei Zero gives you a batch of characters that look like they all have backstories.

+ Show Spoiler +
And then they all die in the first episode. -_-x
/人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Make a contract with me and join TLADT | Onodera isn't actually a girl, she's just a doormat you walk over to get to the girl. - Numy 2015
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9588 Posts
June 11 2011 15:01 GMT
#23230
On June 11 2011 23:58 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 23:55 Latham wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:38 Latham wrote:
Ga Rei Zero... I'm so confused.

Anyway why put Fate/Stay Night on the chart? Didn't people say it was terrible? Are you trying to fill in spots just for the sake of filling it up again?

What are you confused about with Ga Rei Zero?


Who were the people in episode 1? Were they just some random agents, fodder for the story to advance? Why is Yomi alive? Why is she evil? Who's dat kid with butterflies? Will he ever die, in the manga?
Are there any OVAs or anything more than the 12 episodes? Want moar.

The people in episode one just existed for the lolepisode1 thing haha. Did you finish Ga Rei Zero? Plus, answering alot of those questions spoils the manga, if you ever plan to read it.

There aren't any more animated Ga Rei productions, which is honestly kinda a good thing. The manga is not nearly as good as the anime, and is really silly for a long time. The manga didn't start getting "better" until the end, which was around the same time Ga Rei Zero was released lol


I'm on ep.6 and yes I plan on reading the manga. I read on wiki that the anime is supposed to tell the backstory of Kagura and all, but it seems that butterfly kid doesn't die in any of the 3 arcs in the manga.
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 11 2011 15:04 GMT
#23231
On June 12 2011 00:01 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 23:58 Sentenal wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:55 Latham wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:38 Latham wrote:
Ga Rei Zero... I'm so confused.

Anyway why put Fate/Stay Night on the chart? Didn't people say it was terrible? Are you trying to fill in spots just for the sake of filling it up again?

What are you confused about with Ga Rei Zero?


Who were the people in episode 1? Were they just some random agents, fodder for the story to advance? Why is Yomi alive? Why is she evil? Who's dat kid with butterflies? Will he ever die, in the manga?
Are there any OVAs or anything more than the 12 episodes? Want moar.

The people in episode one just existed for the lolepisode1 thing haha. Did you finish Ga Rei Zero? Plus, answering alot of those questions spoils the manga, if you ever plan to read it.

There aren't any more animated Ga Rei productions, which is honestly kinda a good thing. The manga is not nearly as good as the anime, and is really silly for a long time. The manga didn't start getting "better" until the end, which was around the same time Ga Rei Zero was released lol


I'm on ep.6 and yes I plan on reading the manga. I read on wiki that the anime is supposed to tell the backstory of Kagura and all, but it seems that butterfly kid doesn't die in any of the 3 arcs in the manga.

Manga spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +
I thought he did die, like when that thing happened + Show Spoiler [because Latham probably clicked this] +
to make Kagura lose her memories
?
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Latham
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
9588 Posts
June 11 2011 15:15 GMT
#23232
On June 12 2011 00:04 Sentenal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 00:01 Latham wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:58 Sentenal wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:55 Latham wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:38 Latham wrote:
Ga Rei Zero... I'm so confused.

Anyway why put Fate/Stay Night on the chart? Didn't people say it was terrible? Are you trying to fill in spots just for the sake of filling it up again?

What are you confused about with Ga Rei Zero?


Who were the people in episode 1? Were they just some random agents, fodder for the story to advance? Why is Yomi alive? Why is she evil? Who's dat kid with butterflies? Will he ever die, in the manga?
Are there any OVAs or anything more than the 12 episodes? Want moar.

The people in episode one just existed for the lolepisode1 thing haha. Did you finish Ga Rei Zero? Plus, answering alot of those questions spoils the manga, if you ever plan to read it.

There aren't any more animated Ga Rei productions, which is honestly kinda a good thing. The manga is not nearly as good as the anime, and is really silly for a long time. The manga didn't start getting "better" until the end, which was around the same time Ga Rei Zero was released lol


I'm on ep.6 and yes I plan on reading the manga. I read on wiki that the anime is supposed to tell the backstory of Kagura and all, but it seems that butterfly kid doesn't die in any of the 3 arcs in the manga.

Manga spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +
I thought he did die, like when that thing happened + Show Spoiler [because Latham probably clicked this] +
to make Kagura lose her memories
?


Wiki doesn't say anything 'bout that :|
For the curse of life is the curse of want. PC = https://be.pcpartpicker.com/user/LathamTK/builds/#view=CrqmP6
tonight
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States11130 Posts
June 11 2011 15:28 GMT
#23233
That time loop shit in Haruhi was so annoying. After the 2nd episode I just skipped to the last 3min of every episode until I saw the conclusion. What a waste of 5-6 episodes.
if I come without a thing, then I come with all I need @tonightsend
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 11 2011 15:40 GMT
#23234
On June 12 2011 00:15 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 00:04 Sentenal wrote:
On June 12 2011 00:01 Latham wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:58 Sentenal wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:55 Latham wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:38 Latham wrote:
Ga Rei Zero... I'm so confused.

Anyway why put Fate/Stay Night on the chart? Didn't people say it was terrible? Are you trying to fill in spots just for the sake of filling it up again?

What are you confused about with Ga Rei Zero?


Who were the people in episode 1? Were they just some random agents, fodder for the story to advance? Why is Yomi alive? Why is she evil? Who's dat kid with butterflies? Will he ever die, in the manga?
Are there any OVAs or anything more than the 12 episodes? Want moar.

The people in episode one just existed for the lolepisode1 thing haha. Did you finish Ga Rei Zero? Plus, answering alot of those questions spoils the manga, if you ever plan to read it.

There aren't any more animated Ga Rei productions, which is honestly kinda a good thing. The manga is not nearly as good as the anime, and is really silly for a long time. The manga didn't start getting "better" until the end, which was around the same time Ga Rei Zero was released lol


I'm on ep.6 and yes I plan on reading the manga. I read on wiki that the anime is supposed to tell the backstory of Kagura and all, but it seems that butterfly kid doesn't die in any of the 3 arcs in the manga.

Manga spoilers:
+ Show Spoiler +
I thought he did die, like when that thing happened + Show Spoiler [because Latham probably clicked this] +
to make Kagura lose her memories
?


Wiki doesn't say anything 'bout that :|

Obviously manga spoilers, but you seem to not care lol:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ga-rei#Antagonists
Kazuhiro Mitogawa is the butterfly kid.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Ferrose
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States11378 Posts
June 11 2011 17:06 GMT
#23235
On June 11 2011 21:30 Blasterion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 15:54 Ferrose wrote:
On June 11 2011 14:37 lofung wrote:
Moe is a bonus. Unlike comedy or Sci-fi. No seperate catogory in all sense. You can mark the anime as being moe or not though.


In most cases, yes. But some shows use "moe" as the selling point, and it's become kind of its own genre in the last few years. Just look at Wikipedia:

Genre...is the term for any category of literature or other forms of art or culture, e.g. music, and in general, any type of discourse, whether written or spoken, audial or visual, based on some set of stylistic criteria.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genre

I think that most moe animes can be grouped together to fit to that definition.

Edit: I didn't know that there was an article for moe on Wikipedia. And wow, Wikipedia in Japan has its own moe mascot? Wikipe-tan? And she is a loli? Why did no one tell me this T_T

[image loading]

WHY ISN'T THIS A REAL EROGE T_T

No taste, It has to be a lab coat it has to be. The intelligent image of those whose spend their lives in research, Now please, Wikipe-tan, pose with your hands in your pocket leaning against the wall


Hmm. Loli in a labcoat. I like where this is going...
@113candlemagic Office lady by day, lonely woman at night. | Official lolicon of thread 94273
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 17:21:02
June 11 2011 17:20 GMT
#23236
On June 12 2011 00:01 Latham wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2011 23:58 Sentenal wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:55 Latham wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:40 Sentenal wrote:
On June 11 2011 23:38 Latham wrote:
Ga Rei Zero... I'm so confused.

Anyway why put Fate/Stay Night on the chart? Didn't people say it was terrible? Are you trying to fill in spots just for the sake of filling it up again?

What are you confused about with Ga Rei Zero?


Who were the people in episode 1? Were they just some random agents, fodder for the story to advance? Why is Yomi alive? Why is she evil? Who's dat kid with butterflies? Will he ever die, in the manga?
Are there any OVAs or anything more than the 12 episodes? Want moar.

The people in episode one just existed for the lolepisode1 thing haha. Did you finish Ga Rei Zero? Plus, answering alot of those questions spoils the manga, if you ever plan to read it.

There aren't any more animated Ga Rei productions, which is honestly kinda a good thing. The manga is not nearly as good as the anime, and is really silly for a long time. The manga didn't start getting "better" until the end, which was around the same time Ga Rei Zero was released lol


I'm on ep.6 and yes I plan on reading the manga. I read on wiki that the anime is supposed to tell the backstory of Kagura and all, but it seems that butterfly kid doesn't die in any of the 3 arcs in the manga.

The manga is bad. I pretend that it doesn't exist and that the anime storyline is canon.

Everything is explained eventually, although the first ep is totally wtf.

And yeah tonight, E8 was so so terrible.
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Shauni
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
4077 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-11 17:25:22
June 11 2011 17:22 GMT
#23237
Here are some listed suggestions to changes. I'm just posting them to confirm before changing because it takes a while to edit.

1. (re)remove FS/N (I personally do not think it's necessary, because people introduced to anime won't care if the VN is better or not, FS/N was quite enjoyable to me when I watched it years ago)
2. readd moegenre. same ones as before?
3. remove air, fruits basket, toradora, full moon wo sagashite. Any complaints or alternatives?
4. switch gankutsuou to mystery and exchange it with boogiepop phantom
5. replace rahxephon with fafner
6. readd hourou musuko, what category?
7. remove card captor sakura.
8. can someone comment on some classics or things which i havent watched. Should Yokohama, Keaton, Cobra, Eyeshield 21, Fantastic Children, Kimikiss, Wings of Honneamise all stay for example?
9. remove .hack sign?
10. should mecha be merged into scifi and action? And should supernatural really be its own category?

Anything else I missed?
I'm taking whatever coverage I can get, because frankly, I'm busy working on this million dollar deal at my job. Early retirement is a good thing brotha man. - MessengerASL
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 11 2011 17:25 GMT
#23238
On June 12 2011 02:22 Shauni wrote:
Here are some listed suggestions to changes. I'm just posting them to confirm before changing because it takes a while to edit.

1. (re)remove FS/N.
2. readd moegenre. same ones as before?
3. remove air, fruits basket, toradora, full moon wo sagashite. Any complaints or alternatives?
4. switch gankutsuou to mystery and exchange it with boogiepop phantom
5. replace rahxephon with fafner
6. readd hourou musuko, what category?
7. remove card captor sakura.
8. can someone comment on some classics or things which i havent watched. Should Yokohama, Keaton, Cobra, Eyeshield 21, Fantastic Children, Kimikiss, Wings of Honneamise all stay for example?
9. remove .hack sign?
10. should mecha be merged into scifi and action? And should supernatural really be its own category?

Anything else I missed?

5.) I've heard of Rahxephon, and haven't heard of Fafner. I can't say anything about the quality of each, other than Rahxephon is more popular, so I wouldn't replace them.
10.) I was being sarcastic on IRC. Mecha should not be merged, in fact it should be split. I've already given the reasons, and haven't really hard any counter arguements against it.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
June 11 2011 17:28 GMT
#23239
On June 12 2011 02:22 Shauni wrote:
Here are some listed suggestions to changes. I'm just posting them to confirm before changing because it takes a while to edit.

1. (re)remove FS/N.
2. readd moegenre. same ones as before?
3. remove air, fruits basket, toradora, full moon wo sagashite. Any complaints or alternatives?
4. switch gankutsuou to mystery and exchange it with boogiepop phantom
5. replace rahxephon with fafner
6. readd hourou musuko, what category?
7. remove card captor sakura.
8. can someone comment on some classics or things which i havent watched. Should Yokohama, Keaton, Cobra, Eyeshield 21, Fantastic Children, Kimikiss, Wings of Honneamise all stay for example?
9. remove .hack sign?
10. should mecha be merged into scifi and action? And should supernatural really be its own category?

Anything else I missed?

Ok, air and toradora should both stay, as much as you would hate that. Also, I know people who list CCS as one of their favorite anime ever, so I can't imagine that getting removed.

I suspect people will beat you for suggesting mecha get removed/merged.

Of the old classics, the only one of those I've seen is YKK. It's good (like Aria, but slower if that's even possible), and I'm tempted to leave them on there. After all a recommendation list should provide recommendations of less well known shows.

Only change here I really like is removing FSN lol
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
Conquest101
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1395 Posts
June 11 2011 17:40 GMT
#23240
1. Sure.
2. Yes.
3. No to removing Toradora. Indifferent on the rest personally.
4. No clue.
5. No.
6. Yes. Not sure.
7. Personally indifferent.
8. I can only comment on ES21. I'd say stay.
9. Hmmmm. No.
10. No to merging Mecha. And I think the supernatural category discussion was done previously. The result being it stayed apparently.
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