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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On June 04 2011 02:38 Southlight wrote: http://www.famitsu.com/news/201106/03044650.html YS NEXUS HOLY SHIT Edit: HOLY SHIT I GOT TROLLED THOUGHT IT WAS A NEW YS GAME FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUu What is it instead? | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On June 04 2011 02:31 triangle wrote: The battle was more entertaining. Dude, the LoGH battles were soooo dull, christ. I'm not saying Haruhi's 5 minute joke battle was better than the whole show, but I thought the overly ponderous nonsense fights in LoGH were one of the weakest parts of the show. Edit - honestly, the LoGH fanboyism in this thread is ridiculous sometimes (yes, this is hypocritical considering I just wrote a fanboy post). LoGH battles were two shapes whacking against each other with retarded tactics and arbitrary victories. There is no reason to watch that for half an hour. No, its just you are spewing your veiled LoGH hate like normal, saying that the battles in the show were dull and boring, acting like Haruhi somehow executed them better when the show EXECUTED THEM IN EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, just with more incompetence and CG graphics! Oh yeah, and without Yang's brilliance or the vast amount of characters that colored the battles in ways that Haruhi's parody could never hope to equal. I'm starting to think you are just trolling the hated "LoGH fanboys", because there is no way you could say things like "retarded tactics and arbitrary victories", otherwise. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
fuuuuuuuu it's been 4 fucking years since Ys Origin jesus christ | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On June 04 2011 02:41 Southlight wrote: Some random cell phone MMORG fuuuuuuuu it's been 4 fucking years since Ys Origin jesus christ Cell phone MMO? How does that even work? Is it text based or something? | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/30/ys-gets-social-with-ys-nexus/ | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On June 04 2011 02:43 Southlight wrote: No? Graphics and all. http://www.siliconera.com/2011/03/30/ys-gets-social-with-ys-nexus/ pretty nifty for a cell phone mmo | ||
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lofung
Hong Kong298 Posts
like above said, season 1 was awesome for a good reason while season 2 was a complete shit. yes, i was a fanboy of haruhi. not now. i am burnout. the kind of attitude of the author and kadokawa, the publisher, is just plain disgusting. | ||
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
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MichaelEU
Netherlands816 Posts
On June 04 2011 02:45 lofung wrote: i have read the official chinese translation of haruhi movie or "the disappearance of suzumiya haruhi" the story was great but i dun understand why the movie turned out to be very boring. perhaps the pace of the movie is just toooooooo slow or it is just not suitable to be made in moving pictures. like above said, season 1 was awesome for a good reason while season 2 was a complete shit. yes, i was a fanboy of haruhi. not now. i am burnout. the kind of attitude of the author and kadokawa, the publisher, is just plain disguising. I think the complete opposite. As artists, they should just ignore their audience and do whatever they want. I think the movie took perfect opportunity of elements that can only be expressed visually. I love them for taking this attitude and they should do so more often. I actually wasn't that big of a fan based on the first season alone, but the second season and the movie completely convinced me. I'll agree on the pacing, it's too slow for anyone but the hardcore fan. | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
On June 04 2011 02:38 Kaal wrote: Yeah man I agree here the taktiks and strategems in code geass are so much better. I think that's why people like LoGH so much, is that they compare it to stuff like Code Geass and it looks fucking great by comparison. Obviously the strategy in LoGH is way better. If you read WWI naval military history, battles are extremely complex, and involve stuff like different types of ships and their proper roles in a unified fleet, having complex shifting formations, lots of sub-commander initiative, and limited ability of the commander to have overall control of the battlefield. LoGH is triangle A vs. triangle B half the time. Also, nobody has provided any reasons why I am wrong here beyond "durr he be trolling" which is not an argument. So here are the problems with LoGH battles: 1. Excessively long a lot of the time. 2. Vastly oversimplified tactics 3. Implausible tactics 4. Visually uninteristing (I mean, not much they can do about that, but it's still beam spew 1 vs. beam spew 2) 5. Half the time you're just looking at shapes moving around 6. Often the outcome is not in doubt, only the magnitude of the victory (although again, this can't really be changed unless you want Geass lolrandum plot twists) Am I the only one who found what people were saying on the bridge more interesting that fleet A vs fleet B? + Show Spoiler + apparently :/ Edit - Sentenal, I don't want to piss you off too much here. I don't think of myself as "spewing hate", but you're free to dismiss me as one of the legions of morons around the internet (if you haven't already lol) I don't want to start some flame war or anything. I just get frustrated when people attack me so viciously on this issue. | ||
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Southlight
United States11768 Posts
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Ferrose
United States11378 Posts
On June 04 2011 02:50 Southlight wrote: No Ecael knows of it, it's Falcom's other major franchise, and the more well-known. Yesterday I was raging over my realization that I hadn't ever finished one of the games because presumably uni had cut in and made me forget, so I re-downloaded it yesterday lol. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIUqCkDdT2U Looks interesting. I'll have to play it someday D: | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
1.) Excessively long alot of the time. Is that so. Enormous battles that are hugely key in advancing the plot and displaying the characters in action lasting up to 2 episodes is excessively long. Right. 2.) Oversimplified tactics? You say people don't provide reasons why you are wrong, yet you don't even back up what you say with reasons why you are right! 3.) Yes, flanking manuvers, pincer attacks, bluffs, charges, etc are all implausible. And apparently this is another thing where people aren't giving you reasons about being wrong, when you don't give reason for being right. I guess LoGH is just shit till proven otherwise. 4.) Yeah they definitely need to go back in time and get Obari to direct a LoGH remake. 5.) The hell...? 6.) Only the magnitude of victory? So after Amlizer, for example, was there any doubt as to the magnitude of the victory? The narrator is pretty fuckin clear about any significant outcome of the battles. | ||
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Kaal
Djibouti2556 Posts
On June 04 2011 02:49 triangle wrote: I think that's why people like LoGH so much, is that they compare it to stuff like Code Geass and it looks fucking great by comparison. Obviously the strategy in LoGH is way better. If you read WWI naval military history, battles are extremely complex, and involve stuff like different types of ships and their proper roles in a unified fleet, having complex shifting formations, lots of sub-commander initiative, and limited ability of the commander to have overall control of the battlefield. LoGH is triangle A vs. triangle B half the time. Also, nobody has provided any reasons why I am wrong here beyond "durr he be trolling" which is not an argument. So here are the problems with LoGH battles: 1. Excessively long a lot of the time. 2. Vastly oversimplified tactics 3. Implausible tactics 4. Visually uninteristing (I mean, not much they can do about that, but it's still beam spew 1 vs. beam spew 2) I was trolling. Yeesh. If only WW1 naval warfare wasn't complete archaic by the time WW2 came around when you had carriers controlling the space needed for pretty much every other ship to enter the battlespace. LOGH Naval warfare is based up Napoleonic Naval Warfare for the most part, which is represented very well in the show. First of all, excessively long time. Well excuse them for having battles taking place over millions of kilometers taking a while. Two, Vastly oversimplified tactics for vastly simple weapon systems. It's one shot one kill on beams and missles in logh, so most of the battles are sort of a Musket battle (which makes perfect sense) Visually Uninteresting - Well it was made twenty years ago, of course it's not a massive work of art. If someone remade it now it would probably be a thousand times prettier. | ||
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triangle
United States3803 Posts
I viewed battles in LoGH as being really secondary to the main political storyline and conflict. There are kinda three lenses you can take to look at the show: A. Battles are the main point of the show B. Battles are of definite secondary interest in the show -- they're mainly just plot points C. Somewhere in between. If you're in the A camp, battles are the main point of the show, and the plot essentially serves as a vehicle to get the show from battle 1 to battle 2. To me this viewpoint is definitely not true (maybe some people hold it, but I expect not many). The B camp would say that battles are important as plot points to drive the story, but that's about it. Battle happens, this has some effect, now let's get back to the main political storyline. I kinda fall into this camp C camp would say that battles are important because they advance the plot, but they are also important because they have some other value (in between A and B). If you're in the B camp, having battles take 40 minutes is excessive. I guess by analogy, it would be like having a cutscene to a game, where the game is the main focus, and the cutscene just drags on and on. Even if it was a good cutscene, at some point you'd want the game to start because it's what you were interested in the first place. More edits - I'm going to stop arguing completely because I have to do work now. TL is probably horrific for the world economy bluuugh | ||
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
The battles do advance the plot. Amlitzer, Vermillion, Iserlohn, etc are all incredibly important events. Not only are they important events for the main, political storyline, its where all the characters get their chance to shine! Seeing Bittenfeld give orders, Yang reading his opponents, or any of the Admirals doing their thing only strengths their characters, and gives them opportunities to do what most of them do best. The battles themselves are also well executed in their own right, so saying that they drag the story down, is just crazy. New discussion because my comment in a previous post amused me. What would happen if Masami Obari direct a LoGH remake? Here are some examples of Obarisms: ![[image loading]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/darksentenal/1306410174442.jpg) ![[image loading]](http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y255/darksentenal/1305932719596.jpg) (Nu Gundam} and (Re-GZ) Also boobs. Lots of boobs. That are large. Involving fan-service. Sup Gravion. | ||
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tonight
United States11130 Posts
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
Mazinger Z =D Kabuto Kouji's cheerleaders | ||
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Perguvious
United States1783 Posts
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
On June 04 2011 05:07 Blasterion wrote: @ Sentenal Mazinger Z =D http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gcp1RKKPK1c Kabuto Kouji's cheerleaders Who says women can do good Super Robot songs? Also, I case anyone cares, apparently Ferrose decided to sleep at 6pm, so won't be streaming tonight. Guess I'll try again some other time. | ||
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