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GettingIt
1656 Posts
On January 13 2014 06:13 Omnishroud wrote: The amount of bullshit in this threads last ~20 pages has been ridiculous. +1 to terran. Idiots beget idiots wat | ||
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SupaChicken
Australia273 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
For Usopp, the Going Merry is a nakama and a part of the Straw Hats. So Luffy's decision of getting a new ship was, for Usopp, a sign of betrayal. Usopp thought (rightfully so) that the most important thing possible to Luffy was his nakama. So Usopp seeing Luffy give up on the Going Merry is Usopp seeing Luffy "letting go" a nakama since that nakam couldn't "pull his own weight" anymore. Luffy's decision to abandon Merry since the ship was damaged beyond repair made Usopp think that he himself might also get abandoned considering that he's a "weak" crew member. This is aggravated by the fact that Usopp lost 2/3 of the the 300M that the Straw Hats got in Skypeia. What didn't help either was Luffy telling Usopp to leave the crew if he wasn't happy during their argument (then Sanji kicks Luffy, which is amazing). So, when you think about it, Usopp actually had very good reasons to stir up the shit he did. On the other hand, Luffy is right in the argument. Merry being a ship, she can't get "stronger" unlike an actual crew member. So the damage done gets accumulated. Merry is condemned to die. Luffy's decision is also based on the fact that Merry sinking at sea would basically kill every crew member. That's why he made the decision he did. Usopp can't accept this and it's his discussion with Franky that makes him realize his mistake. It's actually quite astonishing how I missed all these details the first time I watched. Both Usopp and Luffy had perfectly good reasons to fight. This drama wasn't the result of some idiot misunderstanding or anything like that, like you can see in other stories. It was the result of two conflicting ways of seeing things. Oda is God. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On January 13 2014 09:38 Incognoto wrote: So I'm watching the anime again and I'm at the Water 7 arc, where Usopp and Luffy have their duel. Just realized how deep the argument actually was. When I watched first piece the first time, I felt that Usopp was being an idiot. While that's somewhat true, the interesting part is how relevant the points Usopp brings up are. For Usopp, the Going Merry is a nakama and a part of the Straw Hats. So Luffy's decision of getting a new ship was, for Usopp, a sign of betrayal. Usopp thought (rightfully so) that the most important thing possible to Luffy was his nakama. So Usopp seeing Luffy give up on the Going Merry is Usopp seeing Luffy "letting go" a nakama since that nakam couldn't "pull his own weight" anymore. Luffy's decision to abandon Merry since the ship was damaged beyond repair made Usopp think that he himself might also get abandoned considering that he's a "weak" crew member. This is aggravated by the fact that Usopp lost 2/3 of the the 300M that the Straw Hats got in Skypeia. What didn't help either was Luffy telling Usopp to leave the crew if he wasn't happy during their argument (then Sanji kicks Luffy, which is amazing). So, when you think about it, Usopp actually had very good reasons to stir up the shit he did. On the other hand, Luffy is right in the argument. Merry being a ship, she can't get "stronger" unlike an actual crew member. So the damage done gets accumulated. Merry is condemned to die. Luffy's decision is also based on the fact that Merry sinking at sea would basically kill every crew member. That's why he made the decision he did. Usopp can't accept this and it's his discussion with Franky that makes him realize his mistake. It's actually quite astonishing how I missed all these details the first time I watched. Both Usopp and Luffy had perfectly good reasons to fight. This drama wasn't the result of some idiot misunderstanding or anything like that, like you can see in other stories. It was the result of two conflicting ways of seeing things. Oda is God. Usopp never really noticed his mistake, right up till the end he was trying to fix it becuase it wasnt really a "mistake" he knew the facts and chose to forge ahead regardless | ||
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Chro
United States240 Posts
That whole arc is the biggest bonding arc in the series and while brooke is cool and all its why he still feels a little distant at times. | ||
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playnice
Malaysia302 Posts
On January 13 2014 09:38 Incognoto wrote: So I'm watching the anime again and I'm at the Water 7 arc, where Usopp and Luffy have their duel. Just realized how deep the argument actually was. When I watched first piece the first time, I felt that Usopp was being an idiot. While that's somewhat true, the interesting part is how relevant the points Usopp brings up are. For Usopp, the Going Merry is a nakama and a part of the Straw Hats. So Luffy's decision of getting a new ship was, for Usopp, a sign of betrayal. Usopp thought (rightfully so) that the most important thing possible to Luffy was his nakama. So Usopp seeing Luffy give up on the Going Merry is Usopp seeing Luffy "letting go" a nakama since that nakam couldn't "pull his own weight" anymore. Luffy's decision to abandon Merry since the ship was damaged beyond repair made Usopp think that he himself might also get abandoned considering that he's a "weak" crew member. This is aggravated by the fact that Usopp lost 2/3 of the the 300M that the Straw Hats got in Skypeia. What didn't help either was Luffy telling Usopp to leave the crew if he wasn't happy during their argument (then Sanji kicks Luffy, which is amazing). So, when you think about it, Usopp actually had very good reasons to stir up the shit he did. On the other hand, Luffy is right in the argument. Merry being a ship, she can't get "stronger" unlike an actual crew member. So the damage done gets accumulated. Merry is condemned to die. Luffy's decision is also based on the fact that Merry sinking at sea would basically kill every crew member. That's why he made the decision he did. Usopp can't accept this and it's his discussion with Franky that makes him realize his mistake. It's actually quite astonishing how I missed all these details the first time I watched. Both Usopp and Luffy had perfectly good reasons to fight. This drama wasn't the result of some idiot misunderstanding or anything like that, like you can see in other stories. It was the result of two conflicting ways of seeing things. Oda is God. This is a fine example of what makes OP great. Charater growth that is relevant to the story's development and relatable to the readers. OP's emphasis was never on more power leveling, convoluted lore, fantasy logic, plot twist and emo poster shots. Thanks for posting this. | ||
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GettingIt
1656 Posts
Leo can stitch/sew things together and unstitch/unsew them like nothing happened. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sewing Sewing[1] is the craft of fastening or attaching objects using stitches made with a needle and thread. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stitch_(textile_arts) In the textile arts, a stitch is a single turn or loop of thread or yarn. Doflamingo has the ability to create strings/threads from his body and manipulate them. Doflamingo is probably a big string yarn ball. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String String is a flexible piece of rope or twine which is used to tie, bind, or hang other objects. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_(yarn) Thread is a kind of yarn used for sewing, Leo will assist Luffy in defeating DD. | ||
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Omnishroud
1073 Posts
EDIT: (might as well use the post) The luffy / ussop fight was amazing, well most of the water 7 / enies lobby was. Really deep and meaningful stuff ^^. | ||
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Kirsed
9380 Posts
http://d220.diamond.fastwebserver.de/series/OnePiece/0267-017.png | ||
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GettingIt
1656 Posts
On January 14 2014 15:39 kirsed wrote: So in my reread I'm up to skypia right now. It really was one of the heights of the mangas art. It's right when Oda stopped doing weird head proportions and did perspective a lot better. http://d220.diamond.fastwebserver.de/series/OnePiece/0267-017.png Good thing he started doing weird boob proportions instead. | ||
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Kirsed
9380 Posts
On January 14 2014 16:12 GettingIt wrote: Good thing he started doing weird boob proportions instead. I deleted my sentence about how it was before the weird boob proportions too. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Kirsed
9380 Posts
On January 14 2014 17:07 flamewheel wrote: WHERE IS MY CHAPTER One more day Flamewheel! | ||
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PVJ
Hungary5221 Posts
On January 13 2014 12:56 Chro wrote: It wasnt a mistake on either end. Usopp knew the going merry was done for the entire time, he said it himself. He just didn't want to give it up. They just disagreed on something and fought over it, was probably the best plot fight in the series so far. It shows the balls of usopp and luffy had to man up and be a real captain. In the end both understood why the other was correct, luffy said one of the most important things in the series on these two pages and usopp apologized. It was a very win/win ending to the whole thing. That whole arc is the biggest bonding arc in the series and while brooke is cool and all its why he still feels a little distant at times. + Show Spoiler + Ace dies | ||
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
 Is it another break? | ||
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Mataza
Germany5364 Posts
Maybe Oda can't handle how good this arc is? | ||
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goody153
44260 Posts
On January 14 2014 22:22 Mataza wrote: If One Piece is doing another week pause, I am going to be sad. Maybe Oda can't handle how good this arc is? don't be silly . Oda is god. Nothing is too good for him. | ||
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
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Olli
Austria24422 Posts
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