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On October 05 2012 11:02 terranghost wrote:Show nested quote +On October 04 2012 03:31 RenSC2 wrote: As a general rule, I'd say that the Shichibukai are weaker than the Yonkou. Placing current and former Shichibukai in approximate power rank, weakest first:
Gekko Moriah - Weak crew and beaten by Luffy before he powered up. Already beaten by Kaido. However, was considered the weakest of the Shichibukai.
Trafalgar Law - Hax OP devil fruit ability, but seemingly can't use it on strong Haki users (Vergo). The rest of his fighting abilities don't seem particularly good. Nothing outstanding in his crew (and I'd suspect they've all been captured/killed already by one of the Yonko), and has made a deal with Luffy to team up and try to take down a Yonko... something he would do solo if he could.
Crocodile - couldn't compete against the likes of Whitebeard, so became a Shichibukai and stayed near the beginning of the grand line. Weak crew and beaten by Luffy before he powered up. If Crocodile takes thing a bit more seriously, he still has some real power available... Flamingo wanted him in his crew, but he refused.
Jinbe - Powerful with unknown crew strength, but never strong enough on his own to protect Fishman Island. Always required either Whitebeard or Big Mom to protect the island and has decided to serve under Big Mom after Whitebeard's death.
Hancock - Her strength is still not fully known, but her #1 and #2 were beaten by Luffy without too many problems before Luffy powered up. Her crew is likely similar to Jinbe's crew strength, her haki is nice but her devil fruit abilities are questionable against powerful characters. So her individual strength is good, but doesn't seem to be dominantly high like a Mihawk or Kuma.
Kuma - Extremely powerful individually, but as a Shichibukai, doesn't seem to have any support like all the Yonko do. He's actually an underling to Dragon or Dr Vegapunk anyways.
Mihawk - Is likely stronger than, but fought evenly against Vista (of Whitebeard crew). Individually, he seems to be as strong as anyone out there, but he seems to lack a crew and would get overwhelmed by any of the Yonko.
Doflamingo - Individually seems to be amazingly strong. Also likes to be a puppetmaster pulling the strings and probably has a very strong crew. He's the one Shichibukai (other than Blackbeard) who seems to have potential as a Yonko if he wanted it.
Blackbeard - Already a Yonko and is being set up as the biggest rival for achieving One Piece with his small crew of extremely powerful characters.
So really, I only see Doflamingo as a Shichibukai with the potential to challenge the Yonko. Everyone else is notably weaker. I would agree for the most part but I would say croc is definately the weakest keep in mind this is pre geared luffy. Crocs only strength was his logia power. I'd put Moria next then Jinbe then Law than everything else as you have it. Possibly switching Doflamingo and Blackbeard for now. BB is probably going to be the main guy to fight at the end of the series but just like Luffy he has to grow in strength throughout the series. The shichibukai are not supposed to be all the same strength the WG just has a set number of pirates they want as warlords. When this number drops they look for someone else. The whole idea is just intimidation primarily on the first half of the grandline so more marines can be ready in case they have problems with the yonko and for there combined strength to be enough to turn the tide Moria was only a problem because he had so many shadows to munch on and ran away so much, when it came down to fist VS fist Luffy spanked him, Luffy would have beat moria without the gears except there was a time limit
Croc killed luffy 2 (technically 3) times even without the Logia defense hes stronger then Moria
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One piece is perfect <3 just so epic omg
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oh haha, turns out the kid was fine all along :D well...fine as a dragon can be, anyway
also, dat haki punch by smoker
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Happy to see Smoker put up a decent fight. I mean he is supposed to be Luffy's Garp! (marine who rivals him since the beginning!)
I wonder what Sanji is going to do... And we still didn't see a picture of vegapunk lol
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My o my, I love one piece... such a cool manga. After all this time its still this good. Bleach and naruto got nothin on this.
EDIT : by the way, what happened to franky again? I cant seem to find him anywhere,~
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Franky went to the Sunny.
I love the fight scenes Smoker vs. Vergo and Law vs. Vergo were so cool.
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Haha I remember when the big dragon outside Punk Hazard was killed people were amazed at the dragon and the fight but saddened that Oda killed the only dragon that would ever appear in One Piece. Now we have dragons everywhere. Mini dragon for next nakama
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That armaments punch got me all "F*** yeah, Haki Smo-san! \o/!
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On October 11 2012 00:43 BlackMagister wrote: Haha I remember when the big dragon outside Punk Hazard was killed people were amazed at the dragon and the fight but saddened that Oda killed the only dragon that would ever appear in One Piece. Now we have dragons everywhere. Mini dragon for next nakama I think that mini dragon is Momosuke, son of Samurai.(no shit lol)
Vergo vs Smoker is going to be as good as Rob Lucci vs Luffy.
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On October 11 2012 02:16 Mensol wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 00:43 BlackMagister wrote: Haha I remember when the big dragon outside Punk Hazard was killed people were amazed at the dragon and the fight but saddened that Oda killed the only dragon that would ever appear in One Piece. Now we have dragons everywhere. Mini dragon for next nakama I think that mini dragon is Momosuke, son of Samurai.(no shit lol) Vergo vs Smoker is going to be as good as Rob Lucci vs Luffy. oda clearly was just trolling us about father killing his son bit.
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mini dragon is really cute.
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I appreciate that the two presumed non-Momonosuke dragons were both western-styled dragons while the one we think is Momonosuke is an asian-styled dragon with his father being a samurai. Just another one of those little cool details. So, dragon mythical beast zoan fruit?
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On October 11 2012 00:43 BlackMagister wrote: Haha I remember when the big dragon outside Punk Hazard was killed people were amazed at the dragon and the fight but saddened that Oda killed the only dragon that would ever appear in One Piece. Now we have dragons everywhere. Mini dragon for next nakama
Also that means that they actually killed a child when they killed the first dragon.
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On October 11 2012 13:40 RebelSlayer wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 00:43 BlackMagister wrote: Haha I remember when the big dragon outside Punk Hazard was killed people were amazed at the dragon and the fight but saddened that Oda killed the only dragon that would ever appear in One Piece. Now we have dragons everywhere. Mini dragon for next nakama Also that means that they actually killed a child when they killed the first dragon. that thing didnt look like a child
and no it doesnt mean that, just because one child got turned into a dragon does not at all meant aht every dragon used to be a child
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On October 11 2012 13:41 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 13:40 RebelSlayer wrote:On October 11 2012 00:43 BlackMagister wrote: Haha I remember when the big dragon outside Punk Hazard was killed people were amazed at the dragon and the fight but saddened that Oda killed the only dragon that would ever appear in One Piece. Now we have dragons everywhere. Mini dragon for next nakama Also that means that they actually killed a child when they killed the first dragon. that thing didnt look like a child and no it doesnt mean that, just because one child got turned into a dragon does not at all meant aht every dragon used to be a child Lol logic. I wonder if this arc will have a big series of 1v1s at the end like most of them. And if that, who against who exactly? Luffy gets caesar obviously, but him aside we got only Monet and Vergo yet and neither is a swordsman. Soooooo.... Zorro fights the samurai? Or no fight at all?
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On October 11 2012 14:17 Mataza wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 13:41 Forikorder wrote:On October 11 2012 13:40 RebelSlayer wrote:On October 11 2012 00:43 BlackMagister wrote: Haha I remember when the big dragon outside Punk Hazard was killed people were amazed at the dragon and the fight but saddened that Oda killed the only dragon that would ever appear in One Piece. Now we have dragons everywhere. Mini dragon for next nakama Also that means that they actually killed a child when they killed the first dragon. that thing didnt look like a child and no it doesnt mean that, just because one child got turned into a dragon does not at all meant aht every dragon used to be a child Lol logic. I wonder if this arc will have a big series of 1v1s at the end like most of them. And if that, who against who exactly? Luffy gets caesar obviously, but him aside we got only Monet and Vergo yet and neither is a swordsman. Soooooo.... Zorro fights the samurai? Or no fight at all? i beleive donflamingo sent people there so most likely the gas somehow gets cleaned up and the other guys arrive
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On October 11 2012 14:47 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 14:17 Mataza wrote:On October 11 2012 13:41 Forikorder wrote:On October 11 2012 13:40 RebelSlayer wrote:On October 11 2012 00:43 BlackMagister wrote: Haha I remember when the big dragon outside Punk Hazard was killed people were amazed at the dragon and the fight but saddened that Oda killed the only dragon that would ever appear in One Piece. Now we have dragons everywhere. Mini dragon for next nakama Also that means that they actually killed a child when they killed the first dragon. that thing didnt look like a child and no it doesnt mean that, just because one child got turned into a dragon does not at all meant aht every dragon used to be a child Lol logic. I wonder if this arc will have a big series of 1v1s at the end like most of them. And if that, who against who exactly? Luffy gets caesar obviously, but him aside we got only Monet and Vergo yet and neither is a swordsman. Soooooo.... Zorro fights the samurai? Or no fight at all? i beleive donflamingo sent people there so most likely the gas somehow gets cleaned up and the other guys arrive I can't wait till oda does more to doflamingo he's seen in the sidelines a lot and still don't get what he's doing or really what his power is, as we see him cut off an oars leg and control people like they are on strings it be interesting, giving the assassination that he did with moriah.
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