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evilfatsh1t
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On April 24 2024 19:36 lestye wrote: I disagree with this entiment. I think One Piece has always been about freedom and liberation. Although I do have my complaints about the how its executed. i think a reason is because pirates in the New World arent really pirates....they're more like warlords which makes the metaphor kinda weird. A problem i also have with One Piece is.....for alll the talk of freedom, liberation.....the Straw Hats do have a tendancy to put back in power, the old aristrocracy. Although this is muddied because the Straw Hats don't really do that....the People do after Luffy displaces the ones in power. So yeah, Luffy isn't directly putting in the old aristocracy, the peoples of the One Piece world are very happy to uncritically put back in place the old noble system. Putting old monarchies in power over what we see is an improvement. Thinking only democracy/republics are free is very modern western mainstream thought. Most political theorists stipulate the benevolent monarch is actually the theoretically best system, which Cobra and Riku are. And benevolent monarchies are actually, historically, one of the most stable ways to transition to a free state. Both England and the US transitioned from benevolent monarchs to their democratic systems, and if you don't think the US did, look at George Washington's Saddam-like re-election numbers. GW could have just been king if he wanted. If we look at what happens to a lot of the less conservative revolutions, they result in an immediate regression towards tyranny. USSR, PRC, French Revolution, Libya-2011, Mugababe in Zimbabwe... The point is, only a rounding error of countries ever get to actual freedom. Almost all of them have been progeny states of the USA/England. And both of them basically evolved from a benevolent monarchy at one point. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
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which earthquake is vegapunk talking about? is he talking about lulusia or was there another one i dont remember | ||
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MaZza[KIS]
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On May 10 2024 15:13 evilfatsh1t wrote: chapters out already. which earthquake is vegapunk talking about? is he talking about lulusia or was there another one i dont remember I'd say Lulusia... Looks like Vegapunk knew Imu was going to take Uranus for a test drive with the motherflame. That's why he refers to the motherflame as one of his sins, he's basically acknowledging that he gave Imu the means by which to sink the world (which seems to be one of the ways Imu plans to defeat the new era of pirates). This is probably what Imu did last time, but once he destroyed the ancient advanced civilisation he lost the means by which to produce the motherflame. This is probably also why vegapunk is telling the story of joyboy, to make sure history doesnt repeat itself, because it looks like a lot of people "betrayed" (probably just failed to act) when the original joyboy tried to free the world. Imagine being Dragon, a revolutionary, and finding out that your son is the inheritor of Joyboys will, the very person that can deliver the revolution/freedom you're fighting for. The ending of one piece is going to be awesome.... | ||
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goody153
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On May 11 2024 22:07 MaZza[KIS] wrote: I'd say Lulusia... Looks like Vegapunk knew Imu was going to take Uranus for a test drive with the motherflame. That's why he refers to the motherflame as one of his sins, he's basically acknowledging that he gave Imu the means by which to sink the world (which seems to be one of the ways Imu plans to defeat the new era of pirates). This is probably what Imu did last time, but once he destroyed the ancient advanced civilisation he lost the means by which to produce the motherflame. This is probably also why vegapunk is telling the story of joyboy, to make sure history doesnt repeat itself, because it looks like a lot of people "betrayed" (probably just failed to act) when the original joyboy tried to free the world. Imagine being Dragon, a revolutionary, and finding out that your son is the inheritor of Joyboys will, the very person that can deliver the revolution/freedom you're fighting for. The ending of one piece is going to be awesome.... Yeah seems like Vegapunk is running on propaganda. Ofc we know it was not the actual rising levels related to what vegapunk revealed but the timing of uranus testing is perfect that he could fit that into his message | ||
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Hyperbola
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It seems like Oda might finally reveal Imu's identity soon. That would be a great conclusion to this arc. Imu's silhouette is getting more and more round with every panel he's in (especially the last one). I wonder if this is what he really looks like lol: ![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/1MOmDWT.jpeg) | ||
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CHEONSOYUN
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https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/onepiece/images/9/98/Chapter_780.png/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20150816055332 odaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | ||
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Dorry and Brogy are like 160 Odds are Joyboy just lost in a fight | ||
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On May 25 2024 01:12 Zambrah wrote: If Joyboy was a Giant he would have a much longer life span than a human, so him being well over 100 would probably still put him in his human ~30s - 40s, I think. Dorry and Brogy are like 160 Odds are Joyboy just lost in a fight Good point. Joyboy being a giant would explain his longevity, the giant Straw Hat, and him being part of the Elbaf pantheon. I wonder how the buccaneers come into play here then. If Joyboy is not a buccaneer then why are they treated so poorly by the government? | ||
Shellshock
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On May 25 2024 03:37 Olli wrote: A 200m rise in sea levels does not submerge mountains. heres a decent visualization applied to real world map https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePieceSpoilers/comments/1czhpey/is_200m_even_deep_enough_this_is_our_world_if/ | ||
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Tayron
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Now obviously the biggest thing the government seems to want to cover up is the "Why" the conflict occurred. My theory is this. The ancient world was all low in technology. A race descended from the moon and ended up giving the ancient kingdom a humongous jump start in technology as such they were super advanced by the time other nations started developing ships that could traverse the ocean. These other nations eventually came in contact with the "ancient kingdom" and either under suggestion from Im or by themselves decided it was better to eliminate said kingdom. Either way since the ancient kingdom was so advanced the alliance could not beat them especially with Poseidon at their disposal. Then to allow the alliance to fight the ancient kingdom the alliance had pluton built on water 7 and used that to help destroy the kingdom. Seeing the destruction caused by pluton the ancient kingdom build Uranus to help combat it and was able to take pluton away from the alliance but after seeing the destruction these weapons did to the world pluton was sealed up inside Wano. And Uranus was lost to history. The promise to the mermaid princess IMO has something to do with the fact that Joy Boy and the ancient kingdom lost and did not want to damage the world further so they told her that she or one of her descendants would eventually be needed to pull the Noah if these weapons ever got used again | ||
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MaZza[KIS]
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On May 26 2024 23:32 Tayron wrote: My question is if the world changed this dramatically in 1 century. Regardless of if the government wipes out the history of that 1 century people could look back to the century before and be like there were more continents now there's not. And could now verify everything vegapunk just said. It would also have the names of the civilizations ect. Unless there was more history wiped out than just 1 century. Now obviously the biggest thing the government seems to want to cover up is the "Why" the conflict occurred. My theory is this. The ancient world was all low in technology. A race descended from the moon and ended up giving the ancient kingdom a humongous jump start in technology as such they were super advanced by the time other nations started developing ships that could traverse the ocean. These other nations eventually came in contact with the "ancient kingdom" and either under suggestion from Im or by themselves decided it was better to eliminate said kingdom. Either way since the ancient kingdom was so advanced the alliance could not beat them especially with Poseidon at their disposal. Then to allow the alliance to fight the ancient kingdom the alliance had pluton built on water 7 and used that to help destroy the kingdom. Seeing the destruction caused by pluton the ancient kingdom build Uranus to help combat it and was able to take pluton away from the alliance but after seeing the destruction these weapons did to the world pluton was sealed up inside Wano. And Uranus was lost to history. The promise to the mermaid princess IMO has something to do with the fact that Joy Boy and the ancient kingdom lost and did not want to damage the world further so they told her that she or one of her descendants would eventually be needed to pull the Noah if these weapons ever got used again I wouldnt know a damn thing if it wasnt written in a book and someone bothered to teach me. That's what happened.... They forbid reading any of the ancient texts, research into the past and eventually, through several generations, the information was lost. Not all of it was lost all together, clearly there are certain figures/races/organisations which have bits and pieces but nothing to have somebody sit up, notice and then do something about it. Hell, Oda showed us cover stories with seals or whatever swimming around in a submerged futuristic looking city and only now has that sunk in (pardon the pun). My point is, even blatantly clear information, in this case imagery, without context/proper understanding, is useless, so how do you expect people to understand anything if all study, reading and information sharing on a specific subject has been forbidden? | ||
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