EPTshanks is not a villain obviously and fuji/kizaru are in the grey area where technically theyre enemies but theyre not the antagonists
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8670 Posts
shanks is not a villain obviously and fuji/kizaru are in the grey area where technically theyre enemies but theyre not the antagonists | ||
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Archeon
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Also I still think Mihawk will be Zorro's final boss for personal story reason. And yes that'd put him at Yonko tier. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2539 Posts
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Shinokuki
United States862 Posts
On April 13 2021 10:53 Hyperbola wrote: I think it was originally speculated that Shiryu would eat the diamond fruit and would be the ultimate opponent for zoro, since he would need to cut diamond like Daz Bonez said he would. Unfortunately, Shiryu blew his devil fruit load way too quickly and ate the invisibility fruit. He couldn't even wait for a good one and settled for probably the worst one in the series. Basically everyone has observation Haki in the New World so what's even the point? God, what an absolute disappointment. Can you believe that people actually thought Shiryu would kill Mihawk and become the world's greatest swordsman and the final boss for Zoro at one point? Now he's just some idiot small fry. I feel like shiryu's awakening might even bypass observation haki. Might be a stepping point for Zoro to develop fujitoras' observation haki and then once he does that he's going to fight Mihawk | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Edit. I do think you are underplaying the invis fruit. Its still super useful against fodder, so a kidnap Nami/Robin plot could set up the conflict. I don't think Oda has set off enough time for BB to get a Wano-length arc (of course this can always be a lie), but I don't think BB needs so much. He's Luffy's antimatter so its better if the whole thing is short and sweet and explosive. Edit 2 The more I think on it, the more wild theories I make up. For instance, reversed god valley with Luffy + Straw Hat Fleet (what purpose can they serve otherwise?) + Kuja + Other Assorted Allies vs. BB + Marines. | ||
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CHEONSOYUN
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herMan
Japan2053 Posts
I think Shiryu eating the invisibility fruit becomes a non-issue as Zoro finds a way to negate it somehow, and that the fight focuses on their sword skills explicitly. People seem to count Shiryu out, even though we don't know much about how powerful he is. It has been a very long time since Zoro has been pitted against an enemy who is just an insanely good swordsman, that was way back in Thriller Bark. The rest of the fights have focused on Zoro overcoming some sort of enemy gimmick. | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2539 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 13 2021 15:04 CHEONSOYUN wrote: CP9 wasn’t an obvious pairing with them and it worked quite well. I think the full crew conflict will be worth waiting for because of the opposing philosophies of the captains and members. Why, they had a boss, swordsman, 3 fairly generic physical threats, bubble lady, and a bizzarro-hair guy. On April 13 2021 22:51 Hyperbola wrote: Zoro might wind up fighting Burgess instead. Maybe burgess will eat the diamond fruit? Last we saw him, he seemed like he was fruitless in Dressrosa. I'm hoping he gets a serious buff since he is the 1st division commander of the Blackbeard Pirates and is basically the Marco of the crew. Shiryu can maybe be Sanji's enemy since they're both invisible. Oda can literally offscreen their fight and have the best excuse for it, lmao. Burgess' fruit might be very important to who he fights. Fruitless he kinda has a mirror matchup with Jimbe. Although maybe Oda will eschew mirrors a bit more going forward. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15690 Posts
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CHEONSOYUN
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![[image loading]](https://i.imgur.com/Ry8fVyc.jpg) I think there are some obvious matchups between the Strawhats and the Blackbeards (Augur and Ussop, Shiryu and Zoro, Doc Q and Chopper, Devon and either Robin or Nami), so I don't think there should be any worry. tbh I'm more worried that it is going to end up being a formulaic 1v1 spread, would love to have expectations betrayed by Oda | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2539 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15690 Posts
On April 15 2021 06:19 Hyperbola wrote: I think the real question is, if Yamato joins, then who would she fight? Catarina Devon with the Kitsune fruit? It would work since Blackbeard has 10 titanic captains, and there would be 11 straw hats. 1v1 for each member. My ideal scenario vs Blackbeard is that each strawhat member ends up taking down one of the ships. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15690 Posts
On April 15 2021 14:29 cLutZ wrote: Back to 1010, what is the chance that the cloud's that Kid noticed were Nami's? I think its a good chance. Oda is good with misdirection and so many people seem to think its BM making Zeus 2.0, when its just as likely Prometheus convinced her to rip the soul out of Zeus and kill him. It does feel a little too soon for it to be some kinda Zeus 2.0. Nami should be somewhat disengaged from a fight right now, so I think the Nami theory is good. Isn't Zeus still in the box? Nami stealing Zeus feels like a forgone conclusion, but I won't be surprised if she ends up stealing both, though Prometheus seems more loyal for some reason? I wonder if Nami could feed something to Prometheus. | ||
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Shinokuki
United States862 Posts
On April 15 2021 06:27 Mohdoo wrote: My ideal scenario vs Blackbeard is that each strawhat member ends up taking down one of the ships. Ehh don't like that typical set up. I want Oda to be more complex with final battles and climax. Nami/Robin/Chopper honestly don't have to fight. They're not meant for these battles. They're just supports and key members throughout the journey. The people who deal damage are people like zoro, luffy, sanji, jinbei, and Yamato. | ||
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herMan
Japan2053 Posts
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Archeon
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On April 16 2021 03:51 Shinokuki wrote: Ehh don't like that typical set up. I want Oda to be more complex with final battles and climax. Nami/Robin/Chopper honestly don't have to fight. They're not meant for these battles. They're just supports and key members throughout the journey. The people who deal damage are people like zoro, luffy, sanji, jinbei, and Yamato. Imo Robin belongs to the later list, at least she used to. Also poor Brook and Franky. | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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Hyperbola
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