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cLutZ
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Mohdoo
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On April 08 2021 05:21 cLutZ wrote: Is Kaido even a human? He has horns I'm also 0% convinced Big Mom is entirely human. They specifically added some question marks regarding her origin. | ||
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Archeon
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On April 08 2021 04:50 Dangermousecatdog wrote: So what? We are talking about humans. Kaido and Big Mom are supposed to be humans, which is why it is so strange they are huge. Same with every other human. They are so huge or have such bizarre shapes you can't really call them human anymore. It's a real dissonance, especially when Luffy asserts that these people as big as houses are humans. Some fishmen who are size of whales, some have fish tails, some look like octopus, one vene looks like a starfish, which no-one cares particularily about precisely as they are not humans. Fair, but that is and always was one piece' art style. The gals also have no way to put all their organs in a waistline as thin as that. One piece always had weird and exaggerated proportions to make characters look more unique and as mentioned this went for fairly early villains including the human ones too. It's a bit late to see a dissonance there, Whitebeard is according to the wiki 6.6m large and supposedly human. Kaido is a half dragon with who knows what origins and as others mentioned BM likely isn't entirely human. | ||
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cLutZ
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https://www.crunchyroll.com/one-piece/episode-395-time-limit-the-human-auction-begins-658621 | ||
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Hyperbola
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evilfatsh1t
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finally seems like the plot will start moving again | ||
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LennX
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But its good that it is finally confirmed that zoro has a variant of conqueror haki too | ||
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herMan
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Dangermousecatdog
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Elentos
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On April 10 2021 04:13 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Pretty odd that Zoro had seemingly no idea he had conquerer's haki all along but just didn't realise it. Surely when he underwent training from Mihawk he would be taught the different types of haki and how to use it? Conqueror's haki is exceedingly rare so there's no reason for Mihawk to just assume Zoro has it. Pretty much everyone we've seen unlock it did it in moments of extreme danger (to themselves or those they care about) so he might have never manifested it during the time skip. Or possibly it's only drawn out when Zoro uses Asura, which he's used now I believe 3 times on panel in the entire series. So he might not have shown that to Mihawk either. It's also possible that it's getting forced out now by Oden's sword Enma. | ||
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cLutZ
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On April 10 2021 04:25 Elentos wrote: Conqueror's haki is exceedingly rare so there's no reason for Mihawk to just assume Zoro has it. Pretty much everyone we've seen unlock it did it in moments of extreme danger (to themselves or those they care about) so he might have never manifested it during the time skip. Or possibly it's only drawn out when Zoro uses Asura, which he's used now I believe 3 times on panel in the entire series. So he might not have shown that to Mihawk either. It's also possible that it's getting forced out now by Oden's sword Enma. Couple theories: 1) Mihawk may not have it, so wouldn't know how to train it. Mihawk doesn't even have a crew, so he might not have the mentality to "be a king". Even though he's the greatest swordsman, we don't even know if that was his goal. Or if he's always had a loner-wine drinking heart. Zoro definitely recognized it at Fishman Isle though, so he knew it was a possibility. 2) Ashura is his peak manifestation of will, and it forced it out. His will being specially demonic in that. Partially supported by the anime (so not 100% canon) Sabody where he scared a bunch of bounty hunters with a demonic look. 3. Ashura is still will, not conquerors, but its close enough to cut Kaido and confuse the guy. | ||
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Zambrah
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Shinokuki
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On April 10 2021 14:12 cLutZ wrote: Couple theories: 1) Mihawk may not have it, so wouldn't know how to train it. Mihawk doesn't even have a crew, so he might not have the mentality to "be a king". Even though he's the greatest swordsman, we don't even know if that was his goal. Or if he's always had a loner-wine drinking heart. Zoro definitely recognized it at Fishman Isle though, so he knew it was a possibility. 2) Ashura is his peak manifestation of will, and it forced it out. His will being specially demonic in that. Partially supported by the anime (so not 100% canon) Sabody where he scared a bunch of bounty hunters with a demonic look. 3. Ashura is still will, not conquerors, but its close enough to cut Kaido and confuse the guy. I think there are different variants of conqueror's haki. It's pretty safe to say Mihawk/Zoro both have it. Their wills are second to none. They want to be the greatest swordan and "conquer" all the swordsmen/swords. This is why zoro seemed to have never been affected by the curse of the swords. While Zoro/Mihawk's will is to "conquer all the swords/swordsmen," people like luffy is to conquer ALL which makes his COC potentially the strongest. Also, If they don't have COC they can't keep up with the other top tier legends. They need to be on that level. I don't know how Mihawk would even compete with shanks if shanks is the only side with COC imbused sword attacks.. | ||
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Hyperbola
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CHEONSOYUN
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Mohdoo
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On April 10 2021 23:46 Hyperbola wrote: The only reason we think people are either born with Haoshoku or aren't is because some random snake lady said it a few hundred chapters ago. I think it's probably a function of having an incredibly strong will coupled with an intense desire for something (like becoming a king) which unlocks it. Zoro's Haoshoku probably came about when he needed desperately to protect Luffy, not because he's some destiny child gift from God. Agreed and his general demeaner and philosophies anyway. Dude has been totally willing to die in a variety of situations. He intends to be the world's strongest swordsman the same way Luffy intends to be Pirate King. I've always seen Zoro as nearly Luffy's equal in a lot of ways. I think that is also why when Usopp pulled his whole "duel" against Luffy thing, Zoro was like "Hey you either need to be an absolutely top tier leader or I'm out of here, none of this bullshit". Also worth mentioning Big Mom, multiple admirals and Shanks are all swords users. His goal is very similar to Luffy | ||
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Akio
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cLutZ
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evilfatsh1t
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Mohdoo
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On April 12 2021 22:16 cLutZ wrote: After this performance who would even be a satisfying Zoro fight? At best you could play off him vs. An All Star/Basil Hawkins like they did his Arlong fights: Yes he'd be dominating, but he's super nerfed from previous injuries. Agreed. Ever since Zoro tanked that combined attack by BM and Kaido, Zoro is now in a middle spot between Yonko and "2nd in command" we see from others. One thing I saw someone else write that I really liked: The Straw Hats have been working towards being at this level for over 1000 chapters at this point. There should be a time where they start dominating. I think we are approaching it. My theory is that there will be some very annoying aspects to tackling Black Beard but that this appears to be a presentation of how much the straw hats have grown. Chopper decking Queen. Zoro tanking that yonko attack. There's basically no way Nami doens't work away from this without at LEAST Zeus. The straw hats are kind of a wrecking ball at this point. On April 12 2021 22:26 evilfatsh1t wrote: in this arc im guessing zoros part is over but eventually isnt it agreed that his opponent will be shiryu? I'd say Shiryu is a level below Zoro at this point. And his devil fruit is useless against Zoro. Zoro will clearly be the guy to kill Shiryu, but I'd say Shanks, Fujitora, Kizaru are swordsmen for him to topple. | ||
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