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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 02 2019 12:14 GMT
#30041
Kaido and Big Mom were big shot pirates way before Roger become Pirate King. They're really old.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 02 2019 12:30 GMT
#30042
On August 02 2019 21:14 Elentos wrote:
Kaido and Big Mom were big shot pirates way before Roger become Pirate King. They're really old.


One Piece wiki says Rayleigh is 78 and Big Mom is 68. Kaido unknown.
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55550 Posts
August 02 2019 13:25 GMT
#30043
On August 02 2019 21:30 Olli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2019 21:14 Elentos wrote:
Kaido and Big Mom were big shot pirates way before Roger become Pirate King. They're really old.


One Piece wiki says Rayleigh is 78 and Big Mom is 68. Kaido unknown.

Yes, they're all old, but Roger didn't actually become Pirate King until later in his life. Most likely a long time ago Big Mom and Kaido were both part of the Rocks group that was mentioned in the Reverie arc

https://onepiece.fandom.com/wiki/Rocks
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2538 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-02 13:50:56
August 02 2019 13:50 GMT
#30044
On August 02 2019 17:42 Ej_ wrote:
So is King one of the sky islanders or what? I thought the wings were just a Zoan attribute. Guess not.

This is the most interesting point of the chapter. Big Mom recognized King as another race that almost went extinct - and Big Mom has a vast intelligence network which would mean that she should be aware of Sky Island. I don't think King is a Sky Islander, I think he's one of the races of the Ancient Kingdom / Moon People. If you look at his wings, they are massive compared to the Sky Island wings. He looks very similar to the people on this glyph.

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Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
August 03 2019 16:18 GMT
#30045
why does Enel, someone from sky island, not have wings? hmm
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Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-04 03:13:40
August 04 2019 03:13 GMT
#30046
On August 04 2019 01:18 Incognoto wrote:
why does Enel, someone from sky island, not have wings? hmm

Nerfed himself because he’s already god tier


I think his ear lobes double as wings too
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7298 Posts
August 04 2019 04:17 GMT
#30047
I can't remember if I've had this discussion here, but is the Light Light Fruit not basically the upgrade to Enels Lightning Lightning Fruit?
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 04 2019 06:51 GMT
#30048
On August 04 2019 13:17 Zambrah wrote:
I can't remember if I've had this discussion here, but is the Light Light Fruit not basically the upgrade to Enels Lightning Lightning Fruit?


i think you mean is Enels lightning fruit not just an upgrade of the light light fruit

not only can it attack as fast but it has dratically increased range in addition to side benefits like being a human battery, being able to transmute gold, drastically increased range on observation haki and being able to transform himself and connected parts into thunder animals to attack with
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 04 2019 07:51 GMT
#30049
Without going into the old classic meme arguments about Enel, calling one an upgrade of the other is just silly. The biggest thing Light and Lightning have in common is spelling. Otherwise, one is light and the other is electricity, so they are pretty fundamentally different.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7298 Posts
August 04 2019 11:11 GMT
#30050
On August 04 2019 15:51 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 13:17 Zambrah wrote:
I can't remember if I've had this discussion here, but is the Light Light Fruit not basically the upgrade to Enels Lightning Lightning Fruit?


i think you mean is Enels lightning fruit not just an upgrade of the light light fruit

not only can it attack as fast but it has dratically increased range in addition to side benefits like being a human battery, being able to transmute gold, drastically increased range on observation haki and being able to transform himself and connected parts into thunder animals to attack with


Lightning doesn’t go at the speed of light though, it’s actually about 1/3 as fast as the speed of light according to google. And the light fruit can shoot laser beams and cause huge explosions, that seems more than a match for thunder animals
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8651 Posts
August 04 2019 14:16 GMT
#30051
yeah light shits on electricity any day
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
August 04 2019 16:09 GMT
#30052
On August 04 2019 20:11 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 15:51 Forikorder wrote:
On August 04 2019 13:17 Zambrah wrote:
I can't remember if I've had this discussion here, but is the Light Light Fruit not basically the upgrade to Enels Lightning Lightning Fruit?


i think you mean is Enels lightning fruit not just an upgrade of the light light fruit

not only can it attack as fast but it has dratically increased range in addition to side benefits like being a human battery, being able to transmute gold, drastically increased range on observation haki and being able to transform himself and connected parts into thunder animals to attack with


Lightning doesn’t go at the speed of light though, it’s actually about 1/3 as fast as the speed of light according to google. And the light fruit can shoot laser beams and cause huge explosions, that seems more than a match for thunder animals


shooting lazer beams is nice but its not like anyone is capable of dodging lightning either, and enel can move much faster, light has to create a path that can be broken before he can move instantly while enel can just dash off
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 04 2019 18:30 GMT
#30053
On August 05 2019 01:09 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 20:11 Zambrah wrote:
On August 04 2019 15:51 Forikorder wrote:
On August 04 2019 13:17 Zambrah wrote:
I can't remember if I've had this discussion here, but is the Light Light Fruit not basically the upgrade to Enels Lightning Lightning Fruit?


i think you mean is Enels lightning fruit not just an upgrade of the light light fruit

not only can it attack as fast but it has dratically increased range in addition to side benefits like being a human battery, being able to transmute gold, drastically increased range on observation haki and being able to transform himself and connected parts into thunder animals to attack with


Lightning doesn’t go at the speed of light though, it’s actually about 1/3 as fast as the speed of light according to google. And the light fruit can shoot laser beams and cause huge explosions, that seems more than a match for thunder animals


shooting lazer beams is nice but its not like anyone is capable of dodging lightning either, and enel can move much faster, light has to create a path that can be broken before he can move instantly while enel can just dash off

Some impressive physics talk from Forik "Gas isn't a state of matter" Order
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24417 Posts
August 04 2019 19:22 GMT
#30054
We've finally come full circle, I'm so happy
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
PVJ
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Hungary5220 Posts
August 04 2019 23:54 GMT
#30055
Maybe Enel is just different race from King which did not have wings? Clearly the drums are in the same place where he had/should have them.

There's an interesting hypothesis here as well https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/np5pf/this_is_annoying_me/c3b9btj/
The heart's eternal vow
evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8651 Posts
August 05 2019 00:58 GMT
#30056
On August 04 2019 20:11 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 15:51 Forikorder wrote:
On August 04 2019 13:17 Zambrah wrote:
I can't remember if I've had this discussion here, but is the Light Light Fruit not basically the upgrade to Enels Lightning Lightning Fruit?


i think you mean is Enels lightning fruit not just an upgrade of the light light fruit

not only can it attack as fast but it has dratically increased range in addition to side benefits like being a human battery, being able to transmute gold, drastically increased range on observation haki and being able to transform himself and connected parts into thunder animals to attack with


Lightning doesn’t go at the speed of light though, it’s actually about 1/3 as fast as the speed of light according to google. And the light fruit can shoot laser beams and cause huge explosions, that seems more than a match for thunder animals

On August 05 2019 01:09 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2019 20:11 Zambrah wrote:
On August 04 2019 15:51 Forikorder wrote:
On August 04 2019 13:17 Zambrah wrote:
I can't remember if I've had this discussion here, but is the Light Light Fruit not basically the upgrade to Enels Lightning Lightning Fruit?


i think you mean is Enels lightning fruit not just an upgrade of the light light fruit

not only can it attack as fast but it has dratically increased range in addition to side benefits like being a human battery, being able to transmute gold, drastically increased range on observation haki and being able to transform himself and connected parts into thunder animals to attack with


Lightning doesn’t go at the speed of light though, it’s actually about 1/3 as fast as the speed of light according to google. And the light fruit can shoot laser beams and cause huge explosions, that seems more than a match for thunder animals


shooting lazer beams is nice but its not like anyone is capable of dodging lightning either, and enel can move much faster, light has to create a path that can be broken before he can move instantly while enel can just dash off

????????
in fantasy world or real world, any discussion of light vs electricity will always end in light shitting on electricity.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
August 05 2019 01:31 GMT
#30057
If we are talking about real world, its a whole lot easier to kill someone with electricity than with light. But on the other hand, since Enel apparently is only capable of adjusting volts and not amps, and that he failed to kill weaklings like that one old man and Usopp (the former of which ate his big laser attack, and the latter got zapped by Enel like 3 times within the span of a few hours) both of whom were mostly fine, its safe to say Enel isn't actually that powerful.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
rabidch
Profile Joined January 2010
United States20289 Posts
August 05 2019 03:45 GMT
#30058
somehow this thread always goes back to enel
LiquidDota StaffOnly a true king can play the King.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7298 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-08-05 03:50:09
August 05 2019 03:45 GMT
#30059
I think a lot of Enels power comes from all of the extra perks from having an early Logia, I feel as though most later Logia fruit stopped having the particularly advanced application of their element, else it becomes kind of dominating on top of the intangibility.

If we saw Enels fruit introduced in the more recent manga it's probably not one that would get the nice perks such as his electric wavey detection ability.

Fun to think about what other kind of abilities the high tier Logia might have gotten back in early OP, like maybe Aokiji can sense temperature in the air, or Akainu is Toph from Avatar

Also Enel is the only reason OP is good, he's actually just that powerful
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2538 Posts
August 05 2019 13:14 GMT
#30060
"Light Speed" in One Piece aint Light Speed in real life. If that were the case, Kizaru could instantaneously zip around the entire planet - either by bouncing off all of the meteorites that Fujitora seems to be pulling from orbit or simply by running really fast on the red line. If Kizaru could really kick someone at the speed of light then do you realize how much momentum his leg would have? It would be enough to obliterate literally anything and also probably explode his legs in the process. Just like how guns and swords don't really kill people in One Piece in one hit, so too is "light" nerfed to shit.
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