EPTNot really. He was winning, but he was in no way dominating it. Smoker got in plenty of good hits.
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Sentenal
United States12398 Posts
Not really. He was winning, but he was in no way dominating it. Smoker got in plenty of good hits. | ||
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Mensol
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stop it already. Smoker got beaten so hard by Vergo. I hope you realize it doesnt even matter if Smoker hits him since Vergo got superior haki. | ||
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evilfatsh1t
Australia8932 Posts
all the mirrors are pretty similar in terms of ability too. luffy devil fruit = roger's ability, whatever the hell it was zoros haki and swords = rayleighs haki law op op fruit = whitebeard op op fruit you get the point | ||
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Hyperbola
United States2555 Posts
On June 25 2015 08:07 Mensol wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0i4x868Zwc stop it already. Smoker got beaten so hard by Vergo. I hope you realize it doesnt even matter if Smoker hits him since Vergo got superior haki. Anime isn't canon. If you recall, Hody and Luffy were almost evenly matched in the anime. Same thing with Caesar and Luffy where it took him likr 5 minutes of struggling to blow him away. If you read the manga, which is btw 10 times better than the anime, then you see that they were trading blows evenly. | ||
Shellshock
United States97277 Posts
On June 25 2015 09:04 evilfatsh1t wrote: the reason i chose coby as luffys garp was because coby is going to rely on haki as his strength later on. i guess sentomaru fits that as well, didnt really think of him. coby has more history with luffy though so it makes sense that coby becomes a huge character later on. all the mirrors are pretty similar in terms of ability too. luffy devil fruit = roger's ability, whatever the hell it was zoros haki and swords = rayleighs haki law op op fruit = whitebeard op op fruit you get the point I saw smoker as like a placeholder Garp until Coby got strong enough at first but yeah I think Coby will ultimately be that guy for Luffy | ||
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
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Wildmoon
Thailand4189 Posts
On June 20 2015 23:15 Forikorder wrote: he took like literally every G4 attack luffy threw In G4 form, Doffy couldn' t even do anything Luffy and got completely dominated. The only thing keeping him standing that long was the fact that G4 couldn't last long. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On June 25 2015 08:07 Mensol wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0i4x868Zwc stop it already. Smoker got beaten so hard by Vergo. I hope you realize it doesnt even matter if Smoker hits him since Vergo got superior haki. Smoker was aiming to get Laws heart back to "settle the debt" while Vergo was trying to beat up smoker | ||
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Sharkey
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XiaoJoyce-
China2908 Posts
Chinese version is out as well *Okay , took me 1 min to finish reading whole chapter. + Show Spoiler + The story progress of this chapter is , WINNER IS LUCY! 17 pages ! | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
Yeah the birdcage plot already felt slow, but flash backs and sobbing to declare the winner seems like filler the anime would use. Still good to confirm DD is beaten right? Bird cage gone so must be, would have liked a hint where the post arc wrap up is going. | ||
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Forikorder
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RenSC2
United States1099 Posts
Gol. D Roger Whitebeard Garp Sengoku Shiki etc. Then there's the middle generation who are now the ones in power and tend to be around 40 years old, although the admirals tend to be in their 50s: Doflamingo 41 yrs old Smoker 36 yrs old Blackbeard 40 yrs old Shanks 39 yrs old Akainu 55 yrs old Kuzan 49 yrs old And then finally we get the new generation: Luffy 19 yrs old Coby ??? Law 26 Kid 23 I think the will of Roger was passed on to Shanks (for safekeeping) until the true inheritor would be found, Luffy. It is symbolized by the Straw Hat which is usually assumed to have gone from Roger -> Shanks -> Luffy. I'd look at the role of renegade marine going from Garp -> Kuzan -> Coby. Coby isn't ready yet to take up the mantle, but he was willing to stand up to Akainu who is now the leader of the marines and I'd expect him to eventually become quite powerful. Perhaps Whitebeard -> Blackbeard. Blackbeard may end up being like an evil version of Whitebeard and is now the primary rival to Shanks just like Whitebeard was the primary rival to Roger. That could eventually lead back to either Kid or Law picking up where Blackbeard leaves off and bringing that rivalry back to a more healthy state with Luffy. And then there could be Shiki -> Doflamingo -> Law (or Bellamy). Kind of the wild card crazy rivals. However, I don't think the series is so neatly ordered. I think the new generation is meant to take over for the middle generation just as we've seen the last vestiges of the old generation move on during/after the War of the Best and let the middle generation take control. There just won't be a neat 1 to 1 takeover and the characters who take over the roles won't have exactly the same personality as the guys they replace. Like, Akainu took over for Sengoku. Sengoku was a strategist and could be brutal if necessary, but he didn't seem to enjoy brutality. Akainu seems to enjoy brutality if it means getting closer to his ends. So the transition is messy, not orderly, as it is in most interesting stories. Natural connections can be made from one generation to the next, but only the Roger -> Shanks -> Luffy connection seems to be explicit. The others seem to be very loosely connected and in some cases, may not have a connection at all. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
not saying Luffy doesnt get serious but in a different way i think the Will of D jumped straight to Luffy and honestly i think for Akainu brutality is the end not a means | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13092 Posts
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sertas
Sweden890 Posts
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herMan
Japan2057 Posts
On June 25 2015 11:11 Hyperbola wrote: Anime isn't canon. If you recall, Hody and Luffy were almost evenly matched in the anime. Same thing with Caesar and Luffy where it took him likr 5 minutes of struggling to blow him away. If you read the manga, which is btw 10 times better than the anime, then you see that they were trading blows evenly. Just asking for you to get off your high horse here. Yes, the anime production quality is quite atrocious these days but used to be stellar. Since when did anybody of authority state that the anime is not canon, excluding movies and filler episodes? | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On June 25 2015 17:42 herMan wrote: Just asking for you to get off your high horse here. Yes, the anime production quality is quite atrocious these days but used to be stellar. Since when did anybody of authority state that the anime is not canon, excluding movies and filler episodes? Manga > Anime > movie > anime filler the order of canon, if the Manga saids something thats what it is regardless of whatever the anime wants to spew out | ||
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RenSC2
United States1099 Posts
On June 25 2015 16:15 Forikorder wrote: i dunno about the Roger -> Shanks one, assuming that Roger is exactly like Luffy then theres not that much connection between Shanks and roger, Shanks is too serious not saying Luffy doesnt get serious but in a different way i think the Will of D jumped straight to Luffy and honestly i think for Akainu brutality is the end not a means Check out the very first chapter of One Piece. Shanks is a lighthearted captain who loves joking with Luffy and his crew. He even laughs off getting semi-attacked by the bandits. At that point, he only got serious when one of his friends was in danger. Makino: "Captain, you seem to be happy as always." Shanks: "Yep. Making fun of him is my joy." Also, Beckman: "That kid's gonna be big." Shanks: "I know. Because he reminds me of my early years." I'd bet Shanks reminded Roger of his early years too when Shanks was a cabin boy on his ship. The problem is that there's no indication that Shanks is a D, so he can't inherit the will of D. Instead, I think he was a caretaker of that will until the true heir would make himself apparent. Shanks must have decided that the true heir was Luffy and was willing to lose an arm for him and then give Luffy his hat, symbolizing the passing of that will. I'd agree with you on Akainu, except that he let Aokiji live. Akainu seems to be about absolute justice and he feels that anything the Marines do in pursuit of killing pirates is justified. He even killed fellow marines who ran from a fight with pirates. However, in the case of Aokiji, even though he left the marines, he's still going to fight pirates in his own way. So to Akainu, that seems to be acceptable. He has a lot more depth than a purely brutal character. | ||
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herMan
Japan2057 Posts
On June 25 2015 17:44 Forikorder wrote: Manga > Anime > movie > anime filler the order of canon, if the Manga saids something thats what it is regardless of whatever the anime wants to spew out Is this just what is generally accepted instead of somebody outright stating it? Wouldn't it be possible for Oda to emphasize some aspects of the series later in the anime that were lost or cannot be illustrated properly (such as sounds) in the manga? | ||
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