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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
June 06 2015 04:38 GMT
#21961
intercepted luffy's fist with his face

intercepted luffy's drop kick with his face

the drill the monk "intercepted" with his skin.


you keep using that word, i dont think it means what you think it means
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 06 2015 05:49 GMT
#21962
Forik context, you are missing it, if you want to understand what went down you need to go back and read those posts I made in the last 2 pages. I'm pointing out the word intercepted doesn't make sense in the case of the monk example, and it wouldn't have done jack shit to the Mingo argument.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 06:24:27
June 06 2015 06:21 GMT
#21963
Intercepted implies Luffy wasn't aiming at the face in the first place. Wrong use of word bro.

You don't see boxing commentators using "intercepted" when talking about when a guy lands a blow right up in the other guys face lol.

IE: Pacquiao did a good job intercepting Mayweather's hook with his face.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 06 2015 06:32 GMT
#21964
oh you follow boxing? and know a little about boxing commentators vocabs? have you hard them talk about people blocking punches with their face? it's a reference they often use for tough fighters who can take a lot of punishment. But nobody here in this forum gets it. And i don't know about you, but that example you gave actually makes Pacquiao very manly, it implies he's so tough and Mayweather's hook is so weak that he rather block it with face than risk injuring his hand by blocking it with his fist.
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Racket
Profile Joined July 2013
3023 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 07:14:55
June 06 2015 07:03 GMT
#21965
On June 06 2015 06:20 1oo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2015 04:39 Racket wrote:
On June 05 2015 14:43 Forikorder wrote:
if Luffy was literally the only person who could beat Doflamingo (like if it was actually Enel there and not Dofla since Luffy has special advantage against Enel) then this chapter would ahve been great

but theres at least 2 people who could definently kick his ass (Zoro and Fujitora) plus another half dozen or so that might have pulled it off alone so all the suspense at his return doesnt really hit its mark since whole time you got that in the back of your head, you know the only reason there waiting for Luffy is for plot reason not practical ones

The only reason for Zoro and Fujitora to be able to deal with Doffy is your own appreciation of their capabilities. Please don't judge the plot based purely on your emotions. In 15 days Zoro and Fujitora could say to Luffy, thanks for defeating Doffy, we could not do that in a million years; and you would turn into a clown.


lol, one of the worst comments i ever saw around here.

are u really that delusional? stop riding on oda's dick so much and open ur eyes.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH, Oda is the wirter, wtf are you talking about? What he says is what matters. You are delusional if you think your feelings and thoughts can override what a writer (no matter how he may do it) decides.

On June 06 2015 06:04 BlackMagister wrote:
Oh come on. Even if you want to argue that Zoro and Fujitora are too weak to fight DD in a normal fight, there is no way they aren't strong enough to fight DD who is on his last leg. Is weakened Luffy or DD stronger than uninjured, but slightly tired Zoro or Fujitora? Fujitora's fight with Sabo was very impressive, they fought evenly and Fujitora ended the fight for his own moral reasons. Zoro was never injured fighting Pica, the fight was only difficult because Pica was tricky and attacked others.

Zoro and Fujitora will thank or appreciate Luffy for beating DD, but they won't say anything silly like "we couldn't beat him in a million years" because that makes them seem pathetic. Zoro and Fujitora plus other characters are strong enough to beat DD, but birdcage is a plot device for them not to help even though fighting DD would be a better solution.


I never said they are too weak to fight him. I do say that people here are so sure about things they can't be sure, and base that purely on emotions and personal appreciation.
I my opinion they should be able to deal with him in that state but I won't go around arguing with people that Oda is dumb because he doesn't make them fight him when they should be able to do it, we will never know if they are able unless Oda says so.

On June 06 2015 07:13 Elentos wrote:
Plz, we all know Zoro is not attacking Doffy because he doesn't take part in his captain's fights unless explicitly told to (and vice versa).

As for Fuji, I have no idea what his reasoning is. It probably has to do something with the whole "Well he's a Shichibukai and because of his heritage and knowledge I can't actually take the position from him."-deal. Although I guess if he defeated Doffy and nobody would say anything about him doing it he'd be fine. Then again, Fuji is a gambler and has decided to bet everything on Luffy, so maybe he wants to wait it out? *shrug*

This is more like it. Here you find someone who believes the same but finds a different and logical answer to deal with Oda's writing instead of saying he is dumb. Oda didn't write almost 800 chapters to fail in things such as this.

On June 06 2015 15:32 rei wrote:
oh you follow boxing? and know a little about boxing commentators vocabs? have you hard them talk about people blocking punches with their face? it's a reference they often use for tough fighters who can take a lot of punishment. But nobody here in this forum gets it. And i don't know about you, but that example you gave actually makes Pacquiao very manly, it implies he's so tough and Mayweather's hook is so weak that he rather block it with face than risk injuring his hand by blocking it with his fist.

I got your back buddy. You are right in this one. They can't see it because they are too focused on arguing with you.
saltywet
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Hong Kong1316 Posts
June 06 2015 08:11 GMT
#21966
On June 06 2015 13:30 rei wrote:
you hasn't been paying attention have you? if you had been reading you would not have replied to that post. Because here is what's i'm ganna reply with and will make you sound silly for even coming up with a word.

From this day forward Mingo intercepted luffy's fist with his face, and he intercepted luffy's drop kick with his face, and Mingo's face is unharmed by luffy's gear 4. The evidence is that Mingo's sunglasses is still not broken.

do you guys realize arguing with semantics is not going to defeat this argument? because it is logically sound and back up by evidence of the still unbroken sunglasses? not to mention the post you are responding to is about the drill the monk "intercepted" with his skin.


<intercept
obstruct (someone or something) so as to prevent them from continuing to a destination.>

So yes, intercept in the monk and drill context was correct, and doesn't apply to Luffy's attack on Doffy.

Doffy didn't block luffy's punch with his face, he took luffy's punch to his face.

Unbroken sunglasses does not mean Doffy is unharmed, I can smash a nokia cellphone against your face and let's see if you're still unharmed.

And again, Luffy DID "block" the sword from hitting Rebecca. In this one context, the word blocked was used correctly.
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
June 06 2015 08:13 GMT
#21967
Doflamingo was definitely harmed by Luffy and Gear Four. Saying otherwise is delusional. The dude was spitting up blood at one point.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
June 06 2015 14:09 GMT
#21968
mingo's sunglasses
pure haki
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 14:25:07
June 06 2015 14:15 GMT
#21969
What if he cough up some blood, what of it? real man don't complain about it. A real man always take the best shot of whatever trying to shove them. Just look at how manly Franky was in his fight. How can you for one second think that Mingo is not at least as manly. Real man don't run from a fight, unlike some hypocrite who aspired to be the pirate king, hiding like a rat and trying to recover after give out the damage and refused to take it like a man after. Luffy is a fucking pussy unworthy to be call a man, if he really think he's can be the pirate king the person with the most freedom then he has to start acting like one. Stop hiding like a pussy and take it like a man.

guys here is another lesson i'm teaching you guys, and that is to see things from someone else's perspective, it's important skill to have:
This piece is what I call from Mingo's perspective:
How can you guys still arguing with me about how manly Mingo is? He obviously resisted luffy's gear 4 punch and drop kick with his face and body for god damn 20 minutes. And then after all that beating he didn't complain, he didn't run away, he didn't cry, he didn't call for help, he did not stay down, he always got back up to intercept some more of luffy's punches and kicks with his body, all he did was took it like a man until that little speedy maggot lost all his stamina from punching too much. The only complain he have is how unmanly this little maggot is when luffy started to hide and ask other people to die for him in order to catch his breath, That's the action of someone worthy of being the Pirate king? and dared to scream out loud that he's going to be the pirate king? the pirate king can't be this unmanly,

It is important skill, here is another example of this lesson but this guy said it a lot better than I ever could.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 15:10:22
June 06 2015 14:30 GMT
#21970
I never said Oda was dumb I just think birdcage is a bad plot device just like Kuina falling down stairs to die. You can be a big fan of a series while still criticizing it, just ask Star Wars fans about the prequels or Sent about Gundam Seed Destiny.

Of course you can say Zoro doesn't interfere in his captain's fight because he has complete trust in him and maybe Fujitora doesn't want to get his hands dirty? The B tier characters don't interfere either even though they wanted to kill DD themselves because speeches? I would be fine with the stall for the captain narrative if it wasn't for people dying while they do it. In previous arcs either other characters couldn't help, were busy or defeating the main villain wouldn't stop the problem. Here nobody is busy, strong characters are uninjured and nothing stops them from reaching DD.

The other problem I have with birdcage is it's strength, previous arcs have had unbeatable DF power, but it was mostly because the characters didn't have the tools to beat the power (haki). This arc they do yet are still helpless even with very a very strong DF.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2551 Posts
June 06 2015 15:28 GMT
#21971
I wish we had a "shitposter of the year" award that would make all of these arguments worthwhile.
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
June 06 2015 15:51 GMT
#21972
too many nominees only in this thread for that
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Bizaraciel
Profile Joined March 2015
1075 Posts
June 06 2015 16:31 GMT
#21973
On June 07 2015 00:28 Hyperbola wrote:
I wish we had a "shitposter of the year" award that would make all of these arguments worthwhile.


Nothing make these arguments worthwhile even more when it's always the same shitposters going over the same shit everytime.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
June 06 2015 16:34 GMT
#21974
I have seen lots of arguments but still none of these top Forikorder's Rokushiki is Haki discussion. That was something else.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
June 06 2015 17:07 GMT
#21975
Yeah I'm gonna agree. Birdcage is really dumb.
Other people not being busy though, I don't agree with. They've already put their trust into Luffy and they are doing other stuff. Cavendish was praised so he's not moving either. The other straw hats won't do anything because they believe in Luffy as well. In reality, the only two people who could potentially do anything are Zoro and Fuji, but they're probably the two main contributors to stopping cage. And besides, most of the B-tiers are down since healing wore off. And they barely beat Doffy's lieutenants, they'd stand no chance at all.
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 17:16:39
June 06 2015 17:15 GMT
#21976
only shit calls other people shit, cause if you aren't shit yourself how can you shit on shit? shit is what people throw around when they have nothing to contribute and shit over other people from a safe distance and think they are high and mighty and better than everybody, my shit is hotter than yours attitude.
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Spicy_Curry
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States10573 Posts
June 06 2015 17:21 GMT
#21977
i dont understand how birdcage can be as strong as it is
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shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-06-06 17:37:19
June 06 2015 17:37 GMT
#21978
I don't get how a fucking admiral is having trouble against a seemingly effortless technique of someone who would apparently get wiped out by a yonkou. I get that its the admirals and the schichibukai together that are meant to even out against the yonkou but why the fuck is an admiral powerless at this point for any other reason that shitty plot?

Plus given the attacks that DD has taken from law before luffy even thought about bringing out G4 its pretty stupid just how much stronger DD is then luffy. I mean luffy has had to be carried about for 10 minutes while some chessy dumb countdown happened while DD seemed to be able to stagger around and was willing to fight straight away. God i wish DD would just kill luffy and be done with the manga now. I really feel (and not for anything related in this post) that OP is going to plummet dramatically in quality from this point onwards. Its gonna be sad.

Lackbleeder
Profile Joined May 2015
741 Posts
June 06 2015 18:20 GMT
#21979
Doffy has been hyped since mock town, if he'd get beat so easely it'd be pretty fucking dissapointing. Aside from this arc being slow as molasses it's pretty decent really, it's just awful because we're reading it weekly.
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killa_robot
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada1884 Posts
June 06 2015 19:40 GMT
#21980
On June 06 2015 23:30 BlackMagister wrote:
I never said Oda was dumb I just think birdcage is a bad plot device just like Kuina falling down stairs to die. You can be a big fan of a series while still criticizing it, just ask Star Wars fans about the prequels or Sent about Gundam Seed Destiny.

Of course you can say Zoro doesn't interfere in his captain's fight because he has complete trust in him and maybe Fujitora doesn't want to get his hands dirty? The B tier characters don't interfere either even though they wanted to kill DD themselves because speeches? I would be fine with the stall for the captain narrative if it wasn't for people dying while they do it. In previous arcs either other characters couldn't help, were busy or defeating the main villain wouldn't stop the problem. Here nobody is busy, strong characters are uninjured and nothing stops them from reaching DD.

The other problem I have with birdcage is it's strength, previous arcs have had unbeatable DF power, but it was mostly because the characters didn't have the tools to beat the power (haki). This arc they do yet are still helpless even with very a very strong DF.


I think most fans of star wars just plain hate the first one, lol.

Zoro and Fuji have reasons, Zoro because Luffy is Captain, Fuji because he isn't allowed to fight a member of the shichibukai. Rest of the strawhats have the same reason as zoro. Marines have the same reason as Fuji.

Sabo is the biggest person that should be helping, but Burgess is keeping him occupied. That in general makes no sense, because Burgess would presumably die like everyone else if the birdcage succeeds.

Rest of the people that should have helped (gladiators), got up and instead stopped the cage. That was probably the biggest stupid thing that happened, because it's undeniable that them attacking Dof would have accomplished more than the ~1 second they managed to pause the bird cage. The dwarfs fall into roughly the same category, since they're hyped as being pretty strong, and have personal reasons to try to oppose Dof directly instead of stopping the birdcage.

I mean I think One Piece is great, but I'll be very happy when the bird cage is done. I get the set up is so Luffy can save the town by himself (much like fishman island really), but the execution of that set up was poorly done.
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