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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

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Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 05:46:51
May 15 2015 05:42 GMT
#21541
Croc prolly didn't develop his powers as much then because he got his shit kicked in when he 1st went to the new world so he stepped back and put into action a long multi-year plan where he dominated the early/mid portion of the grand line and took up more of a planning in the shadows role to get the super weapon (and he mostly didn't have to worry about powerful foes). I bet if Luffy were to meet him again he would be a lot stronger and developed in his powers as he takes more proactive approach where he fights more. Though he still has quite the ego since he tried to go for Whitebeard right away during Marineford. I'm guessing he won't appear as a primary antagonist again, maybe some benign presence or even possibly in a allied scenario that he accepts because they happen to share a common goal like they did briefly when they broke out of Impel Down.
Never Knows Best.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
May 15 2015 07:42 GMT
#21542
On May 15 2015 13:12 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Doflamingo is a lot worse off internally than he looks. After Luffy gets that one hit in, he'll be close to death; I wonder who will save him. Law maybe? Though he would have to have a really good reason.

Bellamy because love 'n' hugs would be my guess.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 15:05:52
May 15 2015 13:59 GMT
#21543
On May 15 2015 11:54 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 09 2015 08:58 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2015 08:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
this fight isn't over lol.

rembmer when luffy first used gear3? rob lucci got OWNED like no tomorrow, yet they continued to fight until it comes down to the raw will powers.

it will be similar here.

lucci took one punch then fought back evenly he didnt get owned Doflas is down for the count he took a G4 bazooka right to the chest theres no way hes gonna be able to effectively fight back

this fight is over


Haha eat your words!

It's not like he care. I bet he is laughing while reading your post like "l o l he took me serious".

btw i think the latest Admiral going to be Paramecia with awakened form. Also Kidd's DF has so much potential in awakened form. I wonder if he control blood in awakened since it possess Iron.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 15 2015 15:48 GMT
#21544
On May 15 2015 22:59 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 15 2015 11:54 Zooper31 wrote:
On May 09 2015 08:58 Forikorder wrote:
On May 09 2015 08:54 evanthebouncy! wrote:
this fight isn't over lol.

rembmer when luffy first used gear3? rob lucci got OWNED like no tomorrow, yet they continued to fight until it comes down to the raw will powers.

it will be similar here.

lucci took one punch then fought back evenly he didnt get owned Doflas is down for the count he took a G4 bazooka right to the chest theres no way hes gonna be able to effectively fight back

this fight is over


Haha eat your words!

It's not like he care. I bet he is laughing while reading your post like "l o l he took me serious".

btw i think the latest Admiral going to be Paramecia with awakened form. Also Kidd's DF has so much potential in awakened form. I wonder if he control blood in awakened since it possess Iron.

blood too strong because then he could just have someone explode

maybe iron sand or something like the doll from naruto
Vortok
Profile Joined December 2009
United States830 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 16:28:53
May 15 2015 16:24 GMT
#21545
I think Burgess being after the Gomu Gomu could be a slight red herring. Instead, he might actually be after Luffy's fruit, which just so happens to be the Gomu Gomu fruit. Whitebeard actually died before Blackbeard stole his fruit, but it might also be possible when someone is close to death (their body/soul's grasp on the fruit weakens or something random like that) which Burgess more or less claimed was Luffy's current state (could just as easily mean that he thinks Luffy will be easy to finish off, too). If it were stolen, Luffy would want to get his fruit back (similar reasoning to his hat, he got the fruit via Shanks), and Blackbeard plans to manipulate Luffy's actions somehow by taking the fruit hostage.

Due to his lineage (Dragon's son, Garp's grandson - both important figures in their respective organizations) and being considered brothers with Ace (Roger's son), Luffy as a person has the potential to represent quite a bit more on a world scale than Law or, really, almost anybody else present. Blackbeard may have some plan in regards to that. Blackbeard also met Luffy in person a few times previously and has had a semi-serious conversation with him. So there's that as well.

Or they just wanna play Pokemon with Devil Fruits as the first impression would indicate. Wouldn't explain why Law is being left alone, though. Maybe they want to catch them in order they show up in the pokedex? Blackbeard could have OCD like that, which would explain why he wanted a very specific fruit first. Yeah, that sounds totally legit. Let's go with that.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
May 15 2015 18:24 GMT
#21546
I mean I can kind of see Burgess witnessing Luffy beat the shit out of Doflamingo and creaming his pants for the Gomu fruit but I'd argue that Luffy's victory has more to do with Luffy and less with the fact that he's made from rubber. If Luffy had a different fruit he would probably be just as strong only with a different moveset. In fact, even if Luffy had no fruit he would probably have his own unique way of fighting. So the equation in Burgess' head of Luffy > Doflamingo = Rubber > String is a false correlation.
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BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 18:54:23
May 15 2015 18:52 GMT
#21547
It isn't Luffy > Donflamingo though since Burgess is attacking the loser. If it were a 1v1 Luffy would be dead now not to mention DD had just got wounded by Law. Burgess simply sees a strong fruit and wants it. Though this fight really shows the problem with Luffy's fighting style that he needs to roid himself and nearly kill himself to win. G4 is stronger than DD's string power and it wasn't enough to win. Other strong fighters like Zoro, DD, Sabo, Fujitora can all fight without killing themselves they only get injured by their enemy. What happens when Luffy faces enemies where their DF makes them physically tough like Kaido who is likely a monstrous Zoan. If Luffy needs G4 just to match his enemies he will lose which is probably why he's going to get awakened abilities too.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 15 2015 19:00 GMT
#21548
I'm pretty sure Burgess' reasoning just goes: Kill as many fruit users as possible, and steal their fruits. Luffy's vulnerable? Let's steal his fruit.
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
May 15 2015 19:26 GMT
#21549
On May 16 2015 04:00 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I'm pretty sure Burgess' reasoning just goes: Kill as many fruit users as possible, and steal their fruits. Luffy's vulnerable? Let's steal his fruit.


Except he's not going after Law, who is even more vulnerable than Luffy, so... there goes your theory.
I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 15 2015 19:30 GMT
#21550
On May 16 2015 04:26 Serejai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 04:00 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I'm pretty sure Burgess' reasoning just goes: Kill as many fruit users as possible, and steal their fruits. Luffy's vulnerable? Let's steal his fruit.


Except he's not going after Law, who is even more vulnerable than Luffy, so... there goes your theory.


Does Burgess know Law is there?
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 19:45:33
May 15 2015 19:45 GMT
#21551
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yes unless he is blind. Also dont dare to compare Gomu Gomu with Ope Ope No Mi. Difference between these two is just huge.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Elentos
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
55561 Posts
May 15 2015 19:46 GMT
#21552
On May 16 2015 04:30 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 04:26 Serejai wrote:
On May 16 2015 04:00 ZigguratOfUr wrote:
I'm pretty sure Burgess' reasoning just goes: Kill as many fruit users as possible, and steal their fruits. Luffy's vulnerable? Let's steal his fruit.


Except he's not going after Law, who is even more vulnerable than Luffy, so... there goes your theory.


Does Burgess know Law is there?

I mean, he jumped right past Law and Cavendish and he seemed to have been observing the fight so it's not unreasonable to assume he knows.
Every 60 seconds in Africa, a minute passes.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 19:55:59
May 15 2015 19:55 GMT
#21553
Its not like Cavendish and whoever is standing around is going to let him just waltz in and finish Law. Luffy didn't have any noticeable ally (with power) even remotely close to him before Sabo showed up. Luffy was the easier target by a mile.
Never Knows Best.
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
May 15 2015 19:56 GMT
#21554
I stand corrected.
Wildmoon
Profile Joined December 2011
Thailand4189 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-15 20:01:33
May 15 2015 19:59 GMT
#21555
On May 16 2015 03:52 BlackMagister wrote:
It isn't Luffy > Donflamingo though since Burgess is attacking the loser. If it were a 1v1 Luffy would be dead now not to mention DD had just got wounded by Law. Burgess simply sees a strong fruit and wants it. Though this fight really shows the problem with Luffy's fighting style that he needs to roid himself and nearly kill himself to win. G4 is stronger than DD's string power and it wasn't enough to win. Other strong fighters like Zoro, DD, Sabo, Fujitora can all fight without killing themselves they only get injured by their enemy. What happens when Luffy faces enemies where their DF makes them physically tough like Kaido who is likely a monstrous Zoan. If Luffy needs G4 just to match his enemies he will lose which is probably why he's going to get awakened abilities too.


One of the reason he chose to activate G4 was because he needed to not only beat Doffy but he needed to beat him in time. I think Luffy can hold his own against Doffy without G4 and it will drag out pretty long. In G4 form Doffy was simply no match for him in overall power. The difference was huge.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
May 16 2015 02:51 GMT
#21556
It was obvious that Dofla wasn't done, but Oda just picked the best way to end the fight. I like that all the gladiators and Sabo are buying 10 minutes for Luffy :D
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 16 2015 03:24 GMT
#21557
On May 16 2015 11:51 ZenithM wrote:
It was obvious that Dofla wasn't done, but Oda just picked the best way to end the fight. I like that all the gladiators and Sabo are buying 10 minutes for Luffy :D

luffy activates his final trump card, pounds relentlessly on an opponent for its full duration and doesnt even KO them

honestly its dissapointing how is he supposed to face a yonkou or admiral when his ace is so useless?
SupaChicken
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia273 Posts
May 16 2015 03:41 GMT
#21558
On May 16 2015 12:24 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 11:51 ZenithM wrote:
It was obvious that Dofla wasn't done, but Oda just picked the best way to end the fight. I like that all the gladiators and Sabo are buying 10 minutes for Luffy :D

luffy activates his final trump card, pounds relentlessly on an opponent for its full duration and doesnt even KO them

honestly its dissapointing how is he supposed to face a yonkou or admiral when his ace is so useless?

Training? Character development?
I need a new quote...
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
May 16 2015 03:44 GMT
#21559
On May 16 2015 12:41 SupaChicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2015 12:24 Forikorder wrote:
On May 16 2015 11:51 ZenithM wrote:
It was obvious that Dofla wasn't done, but Oda just picked the best way to end the fight. I like that all the gladiators and Sabo are buying 10 minutes for Luffy :D

luffy activates his final trump card, pounds relentlessly on an opponent for its full duration and doesnt even KO them

honestly its dissapointing how is he supposed to face a yonkou or admiral when his ace is so useless?

Training? Character development?

he spends 2 years doing nothing but training either hell magically have an epiphany so amazing that it makes his 2 years of hard work pointless or itll jsut be some random asspull

the only powerup i can realistically see is his fruit awakening i really dont think that therell be any more training since rayleigh taught him everything he could already
Sentenal
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States12398 Posts
May 16 2015 03:49 GMT
#21560
No, I agree Forik, Luffy has hit his peak. Obviously the manga will end after this arc, with Luffy accepting he can get no stronger and that he will never become the Pirate King.
"Apparently, Sentenal is a paragon of friendship and tolerance. " - Ech0ne
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