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On April 28 2015 13:19 rei wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 12:52 rei wrote:
I based my theory on facts that's available, In a theory the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, having Shranks with different fighting styles that doesn't rely on both hands is not the simplest explanation, not to mention there is no facts supporting it. If Shranks had a style that doesn't rely on both arms, Mihawk would know since they dueled multiple time. If Mihawk knows Shranks didn't lose any power after losing an arm why would he stop seeking out duel with Shranks?
The notion that Mihawk could be mistaken about Shranks is already being covered by my 3rd postulate. For Mihawk to be mistaking on Shrank's war potential, Shranks had hide his full potential in all the duels they had when he still had 2 arms. or is something even Shranks himself can't not control once he activates it. i think the simplest is that his fighting style didnt rely on having 2 arms, unless he went full guts and wielded a huge claymore or something or went 2 swords style he wouldnt need both arms to execute his techniques it could mean that hes prioritized mastering more sanji-esque techniques rather then Zoro-esque techniques if Sanji lost his arm he wouldnt get any weaker, if Zoro lost an arm he would, someone whos skilled in both swordplay and martial arts could be in the middle ground of both styles and just went towards sanjis way of fighting instead of Zoros also Shanks doesnt seem the type to go full throttle for fun but i could see Mihawk doing so (assuming a worthy opponent) The fault in your logic is that Mihawk dueled with Shanks multiple times when he still had both arms, Mihawk himself would know Shanks didn't lose power if what you said were true, The fact that he said this means he doesn't think Shanks was the man he used to be when he had 2 hands not to mention you are not basing this on facts at all.
your definition of fact is too wierd, you have no facts either just cause someone said something doesnt make that a fact there are too many other facts that could undermine that "fact"
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On April 28 2015 13:23 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 13:19 rei wrote:On April 28 2015 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 12:52 rei wrote:
I based my theory on facts that's available, In a theory the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, having Shranks with different fighting styles that doesn't rely on both hands is not the simplest explanation, not to mention there is no facts supporting it. If Shranks had a style that doesn't rely on both arms, Mihawk would know since they dueled multiple time. If Mihawk knows Shranks didn't lose any power after losing an arm why would he stop seeking out duel with Shranks?
The notion that Mihawk could be mistaken about Shranks is already being covered by my 3rd postulate. For Mihawk to be mistaking on Shrank's war potential, Shranks had hide his full potential in all the duels they had when he still had 2 arms. or is something even Shranks himself can't not control once he activates it. i think the simplest is that his fighting style didnt rely on having 2 arms, unless he went full guts and wielded a huge claymore or something or went 2 swords style he wouldnt need both arms to execute his techniques it could mean that hes prioritized mastering more sanji-esque techniques rather then Zoro-esque techniques if Sanji lost his arm he wouldnt get any weaker, if Zoro lost an arm he would, someone whos skilled in both swordplay and martial arts could be in the middle ground of both styles and just went towards sanjis way of fighting instead of Zoros also Shanks doesnt seem the type to go full throttle for fun but i could see Mihawk doing so (assuming a worthy opponent) The fault in your logic is that Mihawk dueled with Shanks multiple times when he still had both arms, Mihawk himself would know Shanks didn't lose power if what you said were true, The fact that he said this means he doesn't think Shanks was the man he used to be when he had 2 hands not to mention you are not basing this on facts at all. your definition of fact is too wierd, you have no facts either just cause someone said something doesnt make that a fact there are too many other facts that could undermine that "fact"
Its inductive reasoning. Inductive reasoning suggests what the truth might be, but it doesn't necessarily make it true. In this case, while obviously it isn't a "fact" that Shank's weapon has a devil fruit power or something, there are facts that suggest it is a possibility, that rei this is a likely one (if I'm understanding him correctly). It certainly has more credibility than "well maybe Shanks is some kick-oriented martial artist", which is just pure supposition.
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On April 28 2015 13:35 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 13:23 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 13:19 rei wrote:On April 28 2015 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 12:52 rei wrote:
I based my theory on facts that's available, In a theory the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, having Shranks with different fighting styles that doesn't rely on both hands is not the simplest explanation, not to mention there is no facts supporting it. If Shranks had a style that doesn't rely on both arms, Mihawk would know since they dueled multiple time. If Mihawk knows Shranks didn't lose any power after losing an arm why would he stop seeking out duel with Shranks?
The notion that Mihawk could be mistaken about Shranks is already being covered by my 3rd postulate. For Mihawk to be mistaking on Shrank's war potential, Shranks had hide his full potential in all the duels they had when he still had 2 arms. or is something even Shranks himself can't not control once he activates it. i think the simplest is that his fighting style didnt rely on having 2 arms, unless he went full guts and wielded a huge claymore or something or went 2 swords style he wouldnt need both arms to execute his techniques it could mean that hes prioritized mastering more sanji-esque techniques rather then Zoro-esque techniques if Sanji lost his arm he wouldnt get any weaker, if Zoro lost an arm he would, someone whos skilled in both swordplay and martial arts could be in the middle ground of both styles and just went towards sanjis way of fighting instead of Zoros also Shanks doesnt seem the type to go full throttle for fun but i could see Mihawk doing so (assuming a worthy opponent) The fault in your logic is that Mihawk dueled with Shanks multiple times when he still had both arms, Mihawk himself would know Shanks didn't lose power if what you said were true, The fact that he said this means he doesn't think Shanks was the man he used to be when he had 2 hands not to mention you are not basing this on facts at all. your definition of fact is too wierd, you have no facts either just cause someone said something doesnt make that a fact there are too many other facts that could undermine that "fact" Its inductive reasoning. Inductive reasoning suggests what the truth might be, but it doesn't necessarily make it true. In this case, while obviously it isn't a "fact" that Shank's weapon has a devil fruit power or something, there are facts that suggest it is a possibility, that rei this is a likely one (if I'm understanding him correctly). It certainly has more credibility than "well maybe Shanks is some kick-oriented martial artist", which is just pure supposition.
its only the barest hint of a suggestion though, in the first place only Vegapunk can feed inanimate objects fruits so how did shanks get one? its different from Croc he worked with the WG which creates opportunities
the suggestion relys in the assumption that everything Mihawk said is 100% true unshakeable fact as soon as you start doubting that every other part of it falls apart as well
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I was always under the assumption that Shanks's primary power comes from his haki. He has been shown to have conqueror's haki. He has also been shown to put that haki into an attack through his sword when he clashed with Whitebeard. Haki seems to come from willpower, not from any physical strength, so losing an arm should not hurt his haki. Actually, losing an arm may even strengthen his resolve and thus his haki.
In a friendly duel, Mihawk is not getting in the way of Shanks's ambitions and thus Shanks would not be pushed to use conqueror's haki. Shanks may no longer be a match for Mihawk in terms of swordsmanship due to losing an arm, but his swordmanship is merely how he expresses his haki. However, he still has much more power to show when pushed and that power may have even grown after losing his arm, but that power is not through pure swordsmanship.
Thus, Shanks didn't lose any power when he lost an arm, but he is not as good of a swordsman as when he had two arms.
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The fact that Oda said Shanks didn't lose any strength when losing an arm shouldn't matter. It's an information known to us readers, not to Mihawk. He may as well assume that Shanks is not as strong as he was - from a duelling perspective at least.
This leads to different possibilities, like Shanks still having the same swordmanship than before but Mihawk is unaware of that, or Shanks not being as good of a swordman anymore but it wasn't his main weapon anyway. His sword having a fruit is another possible outcome, not likely in my opinion, but not impossible.
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We are into the "Oda is wrong " territory again aren't we.
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On April 28 2015 14:14 RenSC2 wrote:
I was always under the assumption that Shanks's primary power comes from his haki. He has been shown to have conqueror's haki. He has also been shown to put that haki into an attack through his sword when he clashed with Whitebeard. Haki seems to come from willpower, not from any physical strength, so losing an arm should not hurt his haki. Actually, losing an arm may even strengthen his resolve and thus his haki.
In a friendly duel, Mihawk is not getting in the way of Shanks's ambitions and thus Shanks would not be pushed to use conqueror's haki. Shanks may no longer be a match for Mihawk in terms of swordsmanship due to losing an arm, but his swordmanship is merely how he expresses his haki. However, he still has much more power to show when pushed and that power may have even grown after losing his arm, but that power is not through pure swordsmanship.
Thus, Shanks didn't lose any power when he lost an arm, but he is not as good of a swordsman as when he had two arms.
This is also the way i see it.
It's not like Shanks lost power in the form of being a yonkou or the captain of one of the most powerfull crews, Mihawk simply lost interest in him since Shanks swordsmanship is not the same level.
Shanks still rellies on his skills, willpower, haki and crew and that remains untouched
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On April 28 2015 13:53 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 13:35 Sentenal wrote:On April 28 2015 13:23 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 13:19 rei wrote:On April 28 2015 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 12:52 rei wrote:
I based my theory on facts that's available, In a theory the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, having Shranks with different fighting styles that doesn't rely on both hands is not the simplest explanation, not to mention there is no facts supporting it. If Shranks had a style that doesn't rely on both arms, Mihawk would know since they dueled multiple time. If Mihawk knows Shranks didn't lose any power after losing an arm why would he stop seeking out duel with Shranks?
The notion that Mihawk could be mistaken about Shranks is already being covered by my 3rd postulate. For Mihawk to be mistaking on Shrank's war potential, Shranks had hide his full potential in all the duels they had when he still had 2 arms. or is something even Shranks himself can't not control once he activates it. i think the simplest is that his fighting style didnt rely on having 2 arms, unless he went full guts and wielded a huge claymore or something or went 2 swords style he wouldnt need both arms to execute his techniques it could mean that hes prioritized mastering more sanji-esque techniques rather then Zoro-esque techniques if Sanji lost his arm he wouldnt get any weaker, if Zoro lost an arm he would, someone whos skilled in both swordplay and martial arts could be in the middle ground of both styles and just went towards sanjis way of fighting instead of Zoros also Shanks doesnt seem the type to go full throttle for fun but i could see Mihawk doing so (assuming a worthy opponent) The fault in your logic is that Mihawk dueled with Shanks multiple times when he still had both arms, Mihawk himself would know Shanks didn't lose power if what you said were true, The fact that he said this means he doesn't think Shanks was the man he used to be when he had 2 hands not to mention you are not basing this on facts at all. your definition of fact is too wierd, you have no facts either just cause someone said something doesnt make that a fact there are too many other facts that could undermine that "fact" Its inductive reasoning. Inductive reasoning suggests what the truth might be, but it doesn't necessarily make it true. In this case, while obviously it isn't a "fact" that Shank's weapon has a devil fruit power or something, there are facts that suggest it is a possibility, that rei this is a likely one (if I'm understanding him correctly). It certainly has more credibility than "well maybe Shanks is some kick-oriented martial artist", which is just pure supposition. its only the barest hint of a suggestion though, in the first place only Vegapunk can feed inanimate objects fruits so how did shanks get one? its different from Croc he worked with the WG which creates opportunities the suggestion relys in the assumption that everything Mihawk said is 100% true unshakeable fact as soon as you start doubting that every other part of it falls apart as well
Vegapunk wasn't always WG was he?
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I wish there were 2 One Piece threads, one where rei/Forik/whoever else could propose crackpot troll theories backed by tiny bits of evidence and a lot of pseudo logic and everyone could respond to them using clear evidence and common sense and have them deny deny deny forever and laugh all the way home, and then a second thread where we could just talk about the story and the characters.
Basically I love this thread after a chapter release but most of the rest of the time it's a steaming pile of garbage.
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On April 28 2015 14:14 RenSC2 wrote:
I was always under the assumption that Shanks's primary power comes from his haki. He has been shown to have conqueror's haki. He has also been shown to put that haki into an attack through his sword when he clashed with Whitebeard. Haki seems to come from willpower, not from any physical strength, so losing an arm should not hurt his haki. Actually, losing an arm may even strengthen his resolve and thus his haki.
In a friendly duel, Mihawk is not getting in the way of Shanks's ambitions and thus Shanks would not be pushed to use conqueror's haki. Shanks may no longer be a match for Mihawk in terms of swordsmanship due to losing an arm, but his swordmanship is merely how he expresses his haki. However, he still has much more power to show when pushed and that power may have even grown after losing his arm, but that power is not through pure swordsmanship.
Thus, Shanks didn't lose any power when he lost an arm, but he is not as good of a swordsman as when he had two arms.
What information do we have that Shanks is actually a worse swordman than before other than what Mihawk said?
Mihawk had no intention to fight, he could have said he didn't want to fight a cripple as a sarcastic jab to a former partner/friend or he could have meant it and be wrong.
And it's not like we don't know that Mihawk is an arrogant prick. He actually made a point about being able to beat a swordman with a 1 inch blade to fuck with him...
What's next? Are we going to argue about the meaning of Whitebeard telling Shanks he is 100 years too young to tell him what to do? I mean, if Shanks was like 150 yo, would WB have listened to him?
For chirst's sake...
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On April 28 2015 21:27 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 13:53 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 13:35 Sentenal wrote:On April 28 2015 13:23 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 13:19 rei wrote:On April 28 2015 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 12:52 rei wrote:
I based my theory on facts that's available, In a theory the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, having Shranks with different fighting styles that doesn't rely on both hands is not the simplest explanation, not to mention there is no facts supporting it. If Shranks had a style that doesn't rely on both arms, Mihawk would know since they dueled multiple time. If Mihawk knows Shranks didn't lose any power after losing an arm why would he stop seeking out duel with Shranks?
The notion that Mihawk could be mistaken about Shranks is already being covered by my 3rd postulate. For Mihawk to be mistaking on Shrank's war potential, Shranks had hide his full potential in all the duels they had when he still had 2 arms. or is something even Shranks himself can't not control once he activates it. i think the simplest is that his fighting style didnt rely on having 2 arms, unless he went full guts and wielded a huge claymore or something or went 2 swords style he wouldnt need both arms to execute his techniques it could mean that hes prioritized mastering more sanji-esque techniques rather then Zoro-esque techniques if Sanji lost his arm he wouldnt get any weaker, if Zoro lost an arm he would, someone whos skilled in both swordplay and martial arts could be in the middle ground of both styles and just went towards sanjis way of fighting instead of Zoros also Shanks doesnt seem the type to go full throttle for fun but i could see Mihawk doing so (assuming a worthy opponent) The fault in your logic is that Mihawk dueled with Shanks multiple times when he still had both arms, Mihawk himself would know Shanks didn't lose power if what you said were true, The fact that he said this means he doesn't think Shanks was the man he used to be when he had 2 hands not to mention you are not basing this on facts at all. your definition of fact is too wierd, you have no facts either just cause someone said something doesnt make that a fact there are too many other facts that could undermine that "fact" Its inductive reasoning. Inductive reasoning suggests what the truth might be, but it doesn't necessarily make it true. In this case, while obviously it isn't a "fact" that Shank's weapon has a devil fruit power or something, there are facts that suggest it is a possibility, that rei this is a likely one (if I'm understanding him correctly). It certainly has more credibility than "well maybe Shanks is some kick-oriented martial artist", which is just pure supposition. its only the barest hint of a suggestion though, in the first place only Vegapunk can feed inanimate objects fruits so how did shanks get one? its different from Croc he worked with the WG which creates opportunities the suggestion relys in the assumption that everything Mihawk said is 100% true unshakeable fact as soon as you start doubting that every other part of it falls apart as well Vegapunk wasn't always WG was he?
as far as we know he was
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On April 28 2015 22:50 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 21:27 sharkie wrote:On April 28 2015 13:53 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 13:35 Sentenal wrote:On April 28 2015 13:23 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 13:19 rei wrote:On April 28 2015 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 12:52 rei wrote:
I based my theory on facts that's available, In a theory the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, having Shranks with different fighting styles that doesn't rely on both hands is not the simplest explanation, not to mention there is no facts supporting it. If Shranks had a style that doesn't rely on both arms, Mihawk would know since they dueled multiple time. If Mihawk knows Shranks didn't lose any power after losing an arm why would he stop seeking out duel with Shranks?
The notion that Mihawk could be mistaken about Shranks is already being covered by my 3rd postulate. For Mihawk to be mistaking on Shrank's war potential, Shranks had hide his full potential in all the duels they had when he still had 2 arms. or is something even Shranks himself can't not control once he activates it. i think the simplest is that his fighting style didnt rely on having 2 arms, unless he went full guts and wielded a huge claymore or something or went 2 swords style he wouldnt need both arms to execute his techniques it could mean that hes prioritized mastering more sanji-esque techniques rather then Zoro-esque techniques if Sanji lost his arm he wouldnt get any weaker, if Zoro lost an arm he would, someone whos skilled in both swordplay and martial arts could be in the middle ground of both styles and just went towards sanjis way of fighting instead of Zoros also Shanks doesnt seem the type to go full throttle for fun but i could see Mihawk doing so (assuming a worthy opponent) The fault in your logic is that Mihawk dueled with Shanks multiple times when he still had both arms, Mihawk himself would know Shanks didn't lose power if what you said were true, The fact that he said this means he doesn't think Shanks was the man he used to be when he had 2 hands not to mention you are not basing this on facts at all. your definition of fact is too wierd, you have no facts either just cause someone said something doesnt make that a fact there are too many other facts that could undermine that "fact" Its inductive reasoning. Inductive reasoning suggests what the truth might be, but it doesn't necessarily make it true. In this case, while obviously it isn't a "fact" that Shank's weapon has a devil fruit power or something, there are facts that suggest it is a possibility, that rei this is a likely one (if I'm understanding him correctly). It certainly has more credibility than "well maybe Shanks is some kick-oriented martial artist", which is just pure supposition. its only the barest hint of a suggestion though, in the first place only Vegapunk can feed inanimate objects fruits so how did shanks get one? its different from Croc he worked with the WG which creates opportunities the suggestion relys in the assumption that everything Mihawk said is 100% true unshakeable fact as soon as you start doubting that every other part of it falls apart as well Vegapunk wasn't always WG was he? as far as we know he was
Frankie found Vegapunk's home island which clearly has nothing to do with marines though...
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On April 28 2015 22:54 sharkie wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 22:50 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 21:27 sharkie wrote:On April 28 2015 13:53 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 13:35 Sentenal wrote:On April 28 2015 13:23 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 13:19 rei wrote:On April 28 2015 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 12:52 rei wrote:
I based my theory on facts that's available, In a theory the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, having Shranks with different fighting styles that doesn't rely on both hands is not the simplest explanation, not to mention there is no facts supporting it. If Shranks had a style that doesn't rely on both arms, Mihawk would know since they dueled multiple time. If Mihawk knows Shranks didn't lose any power after losing an arm why would he stop seeking out duel with Shranks?
The notion that Mihawk could be mistaken about Shranks is already being covered by my 3rd postulate. For Mihawk to be mistaking on Shrank's war potential, Shranks had hide his full potential in all the duels they had when he still had 2 arms. or is something even Shranks himself can't not control once he activates it. i think the simplest is that his fighting style didnt rely on having 2 arms, unless he went full guts and wielded a huge claymore or something or went 2 swords style he wouldnt need both arms to execute his techniques it could mean that hes prioritized mastering more sanji-esque techniques rather then Zoro-esque techniques if Sanji lost his arm he wouldnt get any weaker, if Zoro lost an arm he would, someone whos skilled in both swordplay and martial arts could be in the middle ground of both styles and just went towards sanjis way of fighting instead of Zoros also Shanks doesnt seem the type to go full throttle for fun but i could see Mihawk doing so (assuming a worthy opponent) The fault in your logic is that Mihawk dueled with Shanks multiple times when he still had both arms, Mihawk himself would know Shanks didn't lose power if what you said were true, The fact that he said this means he doesn't think Shanks was the man he used to be when he had 2 hands not to mention you are not basing this on facts at all. your definition of fact is too wierd, you have no facts either just cause someone said something doesnt make that a fact there are too many other facts that could undermine that "fact" Its inductive reasoning. Inductive reasoning suggests what the truth might be, but it doesn't necessarily make it true. In this case, while obviously it isn't a "fact" that Shank's weapon has a devil fruit power or something, there are facts that suggest it is a possibility, that rei this is a likely one (if I'm understanding him correctly). It certainly has more credibility than "well maybe Shanks is some kick-oriented martial artist", which is just pure supposition. its only the barest hint of a suggestion though, in the first place only Vegapunk can feed inanimate objects fruits so how did shanks get one? its different from Croc he worked with the WG which creates opportunities the suggestion relys in the assumption that everything Mihawk said is 100% true unshakeable fact as soon as you start doubting that every other part of it falls apart as well Vegapunk wasn't always WG was he? as far as we know he was Frankie found Vegapunk's home island which clearly has nothing to do with marines though...
that was from ages back though, full of a bunch of half-invented things and shematics for future projects prob from his teens/early 20s before he joined
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On April 28 2015 23:02 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 22:54 sharkie wrote:On April 28 2015 22:50 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 21:27 sharkie wrote:On April 28 2015 13:53 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 13:35 Sentenal wrote:On April 28 2015 13:23 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 13:19 rei wrote:On April 28 2015 13:07 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 12:52 rei wrote:
I based my theory on facts that's available, In a theory the simplest explanation is usually the correct one, having Shranks with different fighting styles that doesn't rely on both hands is not the simplest explanation, not to mention there is no facts supporting it. If Shranks had a style that doesn't rely on both arms, Mihawk would know since they dueled multiple time. If Mihawk knows Shranks didn't lose any power after losing an arm why would he stop seeking out duel with Shranks?
The notion that Mihawk could be mistaken about Shranks is already being covered by my 3rd postulate. For Mihawk to be mistaking on Shrank's war potential, Shranks had hide his full potential in all the duels they had when he still had 2 arms. or is something even Shranks himself can't not control once he activates it. i think the simplest is that his fighting style didnt rely on having 2 arms, unless he went full guts and wielded a huge claymore or something or went 2 swords style he wouldnt need both arms to execute his techniques it could mean that hes prioritized mastering more sanji-esque techniques rather then Zoro-esque techniques if Sanji lost his arm he wouldnt get any weaker, if Zoro lost an arm he would, someone whos skilled in both swordplay and martial arts could be in the middle ground of both styles and just went towards sanjis way of fighting instead of Zoros also Shanks doesnt seem the type to go full throttle for fun but i could see Mihawk doing so (assuming a worthy opponent) The fault in your logic is that Mihawk dueled with Shanks multiple times when he still had both arms, Mihawk himself would know Shanks didn't lose power if what you said were true, The fact that he said this means he doesn't think Shanks was the man he used to be when he had 2 hands not to mention you are not basing this on facts at all. your definition of fact is too wierd, you have no facts either just cause someone said something doesnt make that a fact there are too many other facts that could undermine that "fact" Its inductive reasoning. Inductive reasoning suggests what the truth might be, but it doesn't necessarily make it true. In this case, while obviously it isn't a "fact" that Shank's weapon has a devil fruit power or something, there are facts that suggest it is a possibility, that rei this is a likely one (if I'm understanding him correctly). It certainly has more credibility than "well maybe Shanks is some kick-oriented martial artist", which is just pure supposition. its only the barest hint of a suggestion though, in the first place only Vegapunk can feed inanimate objects fruits so how did shanks get one? its different from Croc he worked with the WG which creates opportunities the suggestion relys in the assumption that everything Mihawk said is 100% true unshakeable fact as soon as you start doubting that every other part of it falls apart as well Vegapunk wasn't always WG was he? as far as we know he was Frankie found Vegapunk's home island which clearly has nothing to do with marines though... that was from ages back though, full of a bunch of half-invented things and shematics for future projects prob from his teens/early 20s before he joined
so he wasn't always WG...
unless he was born a marine
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Is there no chapter this week? I couldn't really tell from some of the earlier comments
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On April 28 2015 23:31 shell wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2015 23:02 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 22:54 sharkie wrote:On April 28 2015 22:50 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 21:27 sharkie wrote:On April 28 2015 13:53 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 13:35 Sentenal wrote:On April 28 2015 13:23 Forikorder wrote:On April 28 2015 13:19 rei wrote:On April 28 2015 13:07 Forikorder wrote:
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i think the simplest is that his fighting style didnt rely on having 2 arms, unless he went full guts and wielded a huge claymore or something or went 2 swords style he wouldnt need both arms to execute his techniques
it could mean that hes prioritized mastering more sanji-esque techniques rather then Zoro-esque techniques
if Sanji lost his arm he wouldnt get any weaker, if Zoro lost an arm he would, someone whos skilled in both swordplay and martial arts could be in the middle ground of both styles and just went towards sanjis way of fighting instead of Zoros
also Shanks doesnt seem the type to go full throttle for fun but i could see Mihawk doing so (assuming a worthy opponent) The fault in your logic is that Mihawk dueled with Shanks multiple times when he still had both arms, Mihawk himself would know Shanks didn't lose power if what you said were true, The fact that he said this means he doesn't think Shanks was the man he used to be when he had 2 hands not to mention you are not basing this on facts at all. your definition of fact is too wierd, you have no facts either just cause someone said something doesnt make that a fact there are too many other facts that could undermine that "fact" Its inductive reasoning. Inductive reasoning suggests what the truth might be, but it doesn't necessarily make it true. In this case, while obviously it isn't a "fact" that Shank's weapon has a devil fruit power or something, there are facts that suggest it is a possibility, that rei this is a likely one (if I'm understanding him correctly). It certainly has more credibility than "well maybe Shanks is some kick-oriented martial artist", which is just pure supposition. its only the barest hint of a suggestion though, in the first place only Vegapunk can feed inanimate objects fruits so how did shanks get one? its different from Croc he worked with the WG which creates opportunities the suggestion relys in the assumption that everything Mihawk said is 100% true unshakeable fact as soon as you start doubting that every other part of it falls apart as well Vegapunk wasn't always WG was he? as far as we know he was Frankie found Vegapunk's home island which clearly has nothing to do with marines though... that was from ages back though, full of a bunch of half-invented things and shematics for future projects prob from his teens/early 20s before he joined so he wasn't always WG... unless he was born a marine
pointless semantics, everything important that hes done as been as a WG agent
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SO TELL ME!
break this week ? 
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probably. next week is golden week so there will probably have no publication, so no chapter this week I think
I might be 1 week off though... (so maybe its next week without a chapter)
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On April 29 2015 01:24 Yhamm wrote:
probably. next week is golden week so there will probably have no publication, so no chapter this week I think
I might be 1 week off though... (so maybe its next week without a chapter)
Unfortunately you are right, no manga this week 
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Anyone else hate how guns are so seriously nerfed in One Piece? It's like: what was the point of inventing them in the first place?
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