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This is a thread that is dedicated to discussing One Piece. Do not read this thread if you are not currently caught up as there are spoilers in here.

If an episode or a chapter has already been officially released, then it is not necessary to post using spoilers.

If you have knowledge on a chapter that has not been officially released yet, do NOT post it in this thread. Ignoring this public note will result in a mod action.
TMG26
Profile Joined July 2012
Portugal2017 Posts
April 28 2015 21:11 GMT
#21261
Guns finished Whitebeard!
Supporter of the situational Blink Dagger on Storm.
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-28 23:47:08
April 28 2015 21:26 GMT
#21262
On April 29 2015 06:06 Hyperbola wrote:
Anyone else hate how guns are so seriously nerfed in One Piece? It's like: what was the point of inventing them in the first place?


Probably because the amount of people in the world where guns have little to no effect represent like 1% of the world population. The story is focused around characters who guns mean nothing for the most part but they still have their uses in the grand scheme of things. Plus they still seem to have their use among the higher level. Blackbeard's crew has a sniper and remember how Benn Beckman stopped Kizaru from blowing up Law's sub during the war? He did that while he was pointing a gun at him. I am sure there is specialized ammunition out there that can be effective.
Never Knows Best.
Incognoto
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
France10239 Posts
April 28 2015 21:44 GMT
#21263
On April 29 2015 06:06 Hyperbola wrote:
Anyone else hate how guns are so seriously nerfed in One Piece? It's like: what was the point of inventing them in the first place?


Yet it's with a gun that ben backham had Kizaru raise his hands
maru lover forever
sertas
Profile Joined April 2012
Sweden889 Posts
April 28 2015 21:52 GMT
#21264
its more like whats the point of not aiming to become stronger then guns in the op world? Like if people could train to basicly fly and become superhumans why wouldnt literally evreone train? You got a job that requires any physical strength? You want to protect ur family? You want to nullify guns? The list goes on of the most obvious benefits ever. I know its manga world but still. Most villages or whatever no one thinks its a good idea.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
April 28 2015 23:34 GMT
#21265
Why not just remove guns from the OP world? They only really kill people in flashbacks and are completely unnecessary since any scene which uses a gun could have just used a sword or a fist.
And we have no idea what makes Ben Beckman special. Maybe he enhances his gun somehow because otherwise Kizaru would just use observation haki and move his head a little bit.
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Necro)Phagist(
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada6660 Posts
April 29 2015 00:06 GMT
#21266
On April 29 2015 08:34 Hyperbola wrote:
Why not just remove guns from the OP world? They only really kill people in flashbacks and are completely unnecessary since any scene which uses a gun could have just used a sword or a fist.
And we have no idea what makes Ben Beckman special. Maybe he enhances his gun somehow because otherwise Kizaru would just use observation haki and move his head a little bit.

Because guns still work on normal people... Marines don't just deal with the super strong pirates, New world marines maybe should never been seen with guns. But back in East Blue guns would be pretty effective to deal with smaller gangs. Just because like 10% of the population negates them doesn't mean you shouldn't have them at all to deal with the other 90%.
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
April 29 2015 01:10 GMT
#21267
On April 29 2015 09:06 Necro)Phagist( wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 08:34 Hyperbola wrote:
Why not just remove guns from the OP world? They only really kill people in flashbacks and are completely unnecessary since any scene which uses a gun could have just used a sword or a fist.
And we have no idea what makes Ben Beckman special. Maybe he enhances his gun somehow because otherwise Kizaru would just use observation haki and move his head a little bit.

Because guns still work on normal people... Marines don't just deal with the super strong pirates, New world marines maybe should never been seen with guns. But back in East Blue guns would be pretty effective to deal with smaller gangs. Just because like 10% of the population negates them doesn't mean you shouldn't have them at all to deal with the other 90%.


Agreed, not all marines have devil fruits or have haki or some sort of natural power/skill either. But yet they still want to be marines and therefore they get guns.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 29 2015 02:14 GMT
#21268
a bullet could still be infused with Haki and kill a Logia user, guns keep pretty much all of there advantages its just that a random gunman cant beat someone above a certain power level

if Zoro got shot in the head he would die the only difficult part is having enough skill to actually make the shot
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5711 Posts
April 29 2015 02:48 GMT
#21269
On April 29 2015 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
a bullet could still be infused with Haki and kill a Logia user, guns keep pretty much all of there advantages its just that a random gunman cant beat someone above a certain power level

if Zoro got shot in the head he would die the only difficult part is having enough skill to actually make the shot


And something to get around his observation haki.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 29 2015 03:12 GMT
#21270
On April 29 2015 11:48 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
a bullet could still be infused with Haki and kill a Logia user, guns keep pretty much all of there advantages its just that a random gunman cant beat someone above a certain power level

if Zoro got shot in the head he would die the only difficult part is having enough skill to actually make the shot


And something to get around his observation haki.

id include that in skill category
sharkie
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Austria18560 Posts
April 29 2015 07:59 GMT
#21271
On April 29 2015 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
a bullet could still be infused with Haki and kill a Logia user, guns keep pretty much all of there advantages its just that a random gunman cant beat someone above a certain power level

if Zoro got shot in the head he would die the only difficult part is having enough skill to actually make the shot


I thin khaki infused arrows/bullets is quite difficult to master since it's only known for the Kuja people to do that
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
April 29 2015 13:24 GMT
#21272
On April 29 2015 16:59 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
a bullet could still be infused with Haki and kill a Logia user, guns keep pretty much all of there advantages its just that a random gunman cant beat someone above a certain power level

if Zoro got shot in the head he would die the only difficult part is having enough skill to actually make the shot


I thin khaki infused arrows/bullets is quite difficult to master since it's only known for the Kuja people to do that

They did it to arrows but we've yet to see a haki bullet. And you'd need to fire it from a really powerful gun to not give the enemy time to react.
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Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 29 2015 13:53 GMT
#21273
On April 29 2015 16:59 sharkie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
a bullet could still be infused with Haki and kill a Logia user, guns keep pretty much all of there advantages its just that a random gunman cant beat someone above a certain power level

if Zoro got shot in the head he would die the only difficult part is having enough skill to actually make the shot


I thin khaki infused arrows/bullets is quite difficult to master since it's only known for the Kuja people to do that

i think thats just an assumption based on circumstantial evidence
KalWarkov
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Germany4126 Posts
April 29 2015 13:54 GMT
#21274
On April 29 2015 06:06 Hyperbola wrote:
Anyone else hate how guns are so seriously nerfed in One Piece? It's like: what was the point of inventing them in the first place?


Ben Beckmann uses guns.
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Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
April 29 2015 14:27 GMT
#21275
Guns don't kill people, uh-uh. I kill people, with guns.

Jon Lajoie writes One Piece apparently.
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evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
April 30 2015 02:01 GMT
#21276
On April 29 2015 22:24 Hyperbola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 16:59 sharkie wrote:
On April 29 2015 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
a bullet could still be infused with Haki and kill a Logia user, guns keep pretty much all of there advantages its just that a random gunman cant beat someone above a certain power level

if Zoro got shot in the head he would die the only difficult part is having enough skill to actually make the shot


I thin khaki infused arrows/bullets is quite difficult to master since it's only known for the Kuja people to do that

They did it to arrows but we've yet to see a haki bullet. And you'd need to fire it from a really powerful gun to not give the enemy time to react.


i think there's an observation observation haki, that let you predict how the other person will avoid your bullet.
i'm sure that's a thing
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
April 30 2015 03:34 GMT
#21277
any chapter this week or no ?
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 30 2015 03:51 GMT
#21278
On April 30 2015 11:01 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 22:24 Hyperbola wrote:
On April 29 2015 16:59 sharkie wrote:
On April 29 2015 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
a bullet could still be infused with Haki and kill a Logia user, guns keep pretty much all of there advantages its just that a random gunman cant beat someone above a certain power level

if Zoro got shot in the head he would die the only difficult part is having enough skill to actually make the shot


I thin khaki infused arrows/bullets is quite difficult to master since it's only known for the Kuja people to do that

They did it to arrows but we've yet to see a haki bullet. And you'd need to fire it from a really powerful gun to not give the enemy time to react.


i think there's an observation observation haki, that let you predict how the other person will avoid your bullet.
i'm sure that's a thing

or you could jsut predict which direction hell try to dodge or try to aim at a position where he cant dodge
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-30 04:07:50
April 30 2015 04:05 GMT
#21279
No chapter this week. I think it's golden week or some other holiday.

All the fights have been concluded except Luffy vs DD. To give everyone else something to do there is birdcage which gives Zoro, rest of the pirates are just running around and Marines are probably evacuating people. It sense from a manga perspective for it just to be Luffy 1v1, but if everyone really wanted DD dead they would help especially Sabo who is uninjured and very strong. Maybe Sabo will do something by stopping Trebol when he reappears, but I could also see Trebol just getting a quick epilogue scene to explain what he is.
Hyperbola
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States2546 Posts
April 30 2015 04:09 GMT
#21280
On April 30 2015 11:01 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2015 22:24 Hyperbola wrote:
On April 29 2015 16:59 sharkie wrote:
On April 29 2015 11:14 Forikorder wrote:
a bullet could still be infused with Haki and kill a Logia user, guns keep pretty much all of there advantages its just that a random gunman cant beat someone above a certain power level

if Zoro got shot in the head he would die the only difficult part is having enough skill to actually make the shot


I thin khaki infused arrows/bullets is quite difficult to master since it's only known for the Kuja people to do that

They did it to arrows but we've yet to see a haki bullet. And you'd need to fire it from a really powerful gun to not give the enemy time to react.


i think there's an observation observation haki, that let you predict how the other person will avoid your bullet.
i'm sure that's a thing

But what if they predict which direction you will fire in because you "predicted" their movements?
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