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sertas
Sweden883 Posts
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/784/5 Luffy kicks away sandals (obviously to allow for feet to inflate) Unlike G3 where he blows into thumb, he blows into wrist Unlike G3 where it inflates his bones, G4 inflates his muscles instead, that's why the size of his arms aren't as huge as G3. This means that his bone size is relatively the same (maybe stretched a little bit), which is why his arms are crunched together like that. And this gives him the "spring force" to propel his arms and deal devastating blows which is why his blows do more damage than no gear/g2, and the fact that bone size isn't enlarged might be the reason why he doesn't suffer from slowness of G3. Although I didn't like G4 at first, the idea makes perfect sense to me As for how Luffy deflected Doflamingo's haki attack, the only thing I can infer from the last page of the manga is that you can block haki imbued attacks with armament haki on the attacked part. On April 23 2015 23:44 Necro)Phagist( wrote: My question now is, can he use this with gear 2nd as well? As far as I can tell he isn't in gear second right now? Maybe he isn't strong enough to do it yet but somewhere down the line will he mix the two and go into super over powered rubber mode? Looking at this page: http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/784/7 I think Luffy might be in G2. Not sure though. | ||
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6644 Posts
On April 23 2015 23:57 saltywet wrote: Reanalysis of Luffys G4: http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/784/5 Luffy kicks away sandals (obviously to allow for feet to inflate) Unlike G3 where he blows into thumb, he blows into wrist Unlike G3 where it inflates his bones, G4 inflates his muscles instead, that's why the size of his arms aren't as huge as G3. This means that his bone size is relatively the same (maybe stretched a little bit), which is why his arms are crunched together like that. And this gives him the "spring force" to propel his arms and deal devastating blows which is why his blows do more damage than no gear/g2, and the fact that bone size isn't enlarged might be the reason why he doesn't suffer from slowness of G3. Although I didn't like G4 at first, the idea makes perfect sense to me As for how Luffy deflected Doflamingo's haki attack, the only thing I can infer from the last page of the manga is that you can block haki imbued attacks with armament haki on the attacked part. Looking at this page: http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/784/7 I + Show Spoiler + think I think we always knew Haki can block Haki, What stood out to me about it all was the fact he was still rubbery even after the arnament hardening as pointed out by Doffy. Makes me think Luffy did something weird with his haki? Why else did he put on his haki before blowing into his arm? For G3 he inflates and then coats his arm in haki, for G4 he did it before inflation? | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
Looking at this page: http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/784/7 I think Luffy might be in G2. Not sure though. http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/784/11 can still see steam here too so seems like it is G2+G3 | ||
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Katsuge
Singapore7730 Posts
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Necro)Phagist(
Canada6644 Posts
On April 24 2015 00:06 Forikorder wrote: http://www.mangareader.net/one-piece/784/11 can still see steam here too so seems like it is G2+G3 Could be steam yea so maybe he is in G2. Though at first look I took that more as compressed air leaving his body or something along those lines as it seems a bit thick for steam. In the lead up chapter he looked to not be in G2 anymore and he wasn't shown going into G2 prior to G4. But that does look like steam or something surrounding him so could be I really don't know. | ||
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Nahsom
Austria361 Posts
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terranghost
United States980 Posts
On April 23 2015 22:54 Rukis wrote: My guess Doflomingo will actually get beaten relatively easy, 1. New ability kicks ass 2. Luffy will end up fighting Big Mama next (if there isnt any "side" ark on the way) 3. Luffy has made some other pirates look pretty pitiful before. While that is still possible remember back when luffy used gear 2 vs Lucci. Lucci was getting his ass kicked but had the the ability to hang on then Luffys G2 started wear him out and eventually he had to turn it off because it exhausted him that much. Then we had Lucci effectively explaining how G2 worked (although this is more for the audience as Luffy already knew how it worked) | ||
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
On April 24 2015 00:08 Katsuge wrote: g4 looks....rather weird.. I thought so too. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
On April 23 2015 23:55 sertas wrote: next chapter doffy will explain why this gear has a weakness and explain it to luffy so he knows his weakness. I don't see why G4 has to have a weakness. All of the other strong DF users have crazy OP abilities with seemingly no downside. Right now Donflamingo is about to kill the entire country with a seemingly indestructible cage while fighting 1v1 against Luffy. He can also make clones, swing off clouds and control people. Luffy's use of his DF isn't as crazy as those, but it's a novel and strong use of his DF. | ||
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ThePhan2m
Norway2750 Posts
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On April 24 2015 00:36 BlackMagister wrote: I don't see why G4 has to have a weakness. All of the other strong DF users have crazy OP abilities with seemingly no downside. Right now Donflamingo is about to kill the entire country with a seemingly indestructible cage while fighting 1v1 against Luffy. He can also make clones, swing off clouds and control people. Luffy's use of his DF isn't as crazy as those, but it's a novel and strong use of his DF. Honestly, I think it makes sense for it to have some sort of downside even though it's not a must. The gears are all about surpassing the abilities of a regular human body, after all, while other DFs don't necessarily use their own body for cool stuff. Since G4 increases his muscle size, I think it'll just be physically draining and he'll be on a bit of a clock to win (which is fine since the Birdcage is already a time limit) because he can't keep it up forever. Also some of his movements are really similar to Bellamy, yeah. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 24 2015 00:36 BlackMagister wrote: I don't see why G4 has to have a weakness. All of the other strong DF users have crazy OP abilities with seemingly no downside. Right now Donflamingo is about to kill the entire country with a seemingly indestructible cage while fighting 1v1 against Luffy. He can also make clones, swing off clouds and control people. Luffy's use of his DF isn't as crazy as those, but it's a novel and strong use of his DF. basically since he hasnt used it yet it must be reserved for special occasions, it has to have some downside even if its just eating through his stamina like no tomorrow | ||
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SkelA
Macedonia13032 Posts
Its not wierd at all ! | ||
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On April 24 2015 00:47 Forikorder wrote: basically since he hasnt used it yet it must be reserved for special occasions, it has to have some downside even if its just eating through his stamina like no tomorrow Yeah, I agree. It's a bit like the Kaioken, they give amazing boosts to Goku's abilities, but they also take a lot out of him. Similar to how much trouble Luffy had with keeping G2 and G3 going pre-skip. So I imagine G4 will be similar at first. | ||
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BlackMagister
United States5834 Posts
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On April 24 2015 00:59 BlackMagister wrote: Fatigue reasons and it shortening Luffy's lifespan is fine. The way people talked about Luffy's weakness made it seem like a specific battle weakness that could be exploited. Though speaking of DBZ Goku eventually gets super sayain forms which have no weakness and outclass Kaioken. well he couldnt stay super saiyan forever at the begnining and following DBZs lead is generally considered a bad idea noone wants another DBZ last thing we want is Luffy stomping out an entire island | ||
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Elentos
55510 Posts
On April 24 2015 01:00 Forikorder wrote: well he couldnt stay super saiyan forever at the begnining and following DBZs lead is generally considered a bad idea noone wants another DBZ last thing we want is Luffy stomping out an entire island Yeah, he needed 2 days in the hyperbolic time chamber to get enough control over the SSJ form to keep it up without any effort. A matter of training. And I kinda agree that I don't want Luffy to go around destroying islands by punching them, although I guess he has to be able to do that if he wants to beat the strongest enemies. | ||
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AsianEcksDragon
United States1036 Posts
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Slaughter
United States20254 Posts
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