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On April 13 2015 06:28 Forikorder wrote:
if it wasnt for the bird cage Luffy probably wouldnt ahve gone up a gear hes just on a time limit so he has to end it quickly and hes Dofla is fast enough to get around his G3 big hits
You are delusional. Go read the chapter again. Luffy uses G2, DD shrugs it off saying it is fast but too weak. Luffy uses G3 DD just evades.
DD was in control that's why Luffy used G4, bird cage just extra incentive.
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On April 13 2015 06:38 TMG26 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 06:28 Forikorder wrote:
if it wasnt for the bird cage Luffy probably wouldnt ahve gone up a gear hes just on a time limit so he has to end it quickly and hes Dofla is fast enough to get around his G3 big hits
You are delusional. Go read the chapter again. Luffy uses G2, DD shrugs it off saying it is fast but too weak. Luffy uses G3 DD just evades. DD was in control that's why Luffy used G4, bird cage just extra incentive.
even if he can avoid his G3 attacks Luffy has the obvious advantage in the fight, Doflamingo organs arent gonna hold forever so hes too much on the defensive and cant really hurt Luffy
hes doing a good job dancing around but the only difficulty is Luffy finding an opportunity to clsoe the fight decisively
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On April 13 2015 07:42 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 06:38 TMG26 wrote:On April 13 2015 06:28 Forikorder wrote:
if it wasnt for the bird cage Luffy probably wouldnt ahve gone up a gear hes just on a time limit so he has to end it quickly and hes Dofla is fast enough to get around his G3 big hits
You are delusional. Go read the chapter again. Luffy uses G2, DD shrugs it off saying it is fast but too weak. Luffy uses G3 DD just evades. DD was in control that's why Luffy used G4, bird cage just extra incentive. even if he can avoid his G3 attacks Luffy has the obvious advantage in the fight, Doflamingo organs arent gonna hold forever so hes too much on the defensive and cant really hurt Luffy hes doing a good job dancing around but the only difficulty is Luffy finding an opportunity to clsoe the fight decisively
Luffy's also took a good bit of damage and I doubt he can keep up the pace of the fight forever. Right now they are evenly matched and Luffy is at the disadvantage because of the bird cage being on a timer. Hence why he has to break out gear 4.
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On April 13 2015 07:50 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 07:42 Forikorder wrote:On April 13 2015 06:38 TMG26 wrote:On April 13 2015 06:28 Forikorder wrote:
if it wasnt for the bird cage Luffy probably wouldnt ahve gone up a gear hes just on a time limit so he has to end it quickly and hes Dofla is fast enough to get around his G3 big hits
You are delusional. Go read the chapter again. Luffy uses G2, DD shrugs it off saying it is fast but too weak. Luffy uses G3 DD just evades. DD was in control that's why Luffy used G4, bird cage just extra incentive. even if he can avoid his G3 attacks Luffy has the obvious advantage in the fight, Doflamingo organs arent gonna hold forever so hes too much on the defensive and cant really hurt Luffy hes doing a good job dancing around but the only difficulty is Luffy finding an opportunity to clsoe the fight decisively Luffy's also took a good bit of damage and I doubt he can keep up the pace of the fight forever. Right now they are evenly matched and Luffy is at the disadvantage because of the bird cage being on a timer. Hence why he has to break out gear 4.
right so if it wasnt for the timer and all of Doflas tricks it would ahve been a clean sweep
Dofla is just a bad match up for him since he can maneuver in 360 degrees so his G3 attacks arent gonna hit
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On April 13 2015 07:53 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 07:50 Zooper31 wrote:On April 13 2015 07:42 Forikorder wrote:On April 13 2015 06:38 TMG26 wrote:On April 13 2015 06:28 Forikorder wrote:
if it wasnt for the bird cage Luffy probably wouldnt ahve gone up a gear hes just on a time limit so he has to end it quickly and hes Dofla is fast enough to get around his G3 big hits
You are delusional. Go read the chapter again. Luffy uses G2, DD shrugs it off saying it is fast but too weak. Luffy uses G3 DD just evades. DD was in control that's why Luffy used G4, bird cage just extra incentive. even if he can avoid his G3 attacks Luffy has the obvious advantage in the fight, Doflamingo organs arent gonna hold forever so hes too much on the defensive and cant really hurt Luffy hes doing a good job dancing around but the only difficulty is Luffy finding an opportunity to clsoe the fight decisively Luffy's also took a good bit of damage and I doubt he can keep up the pace of the fight forever. Right now they are evenly matched and Luffy is at the disadvantage because of the bird cage being on a timer. Hence why he has to break out gear 4. right so if it wasnt for the timer and all of Doflas tricks it would ahve been a clean sweep Dofla is just a bad match up for him since he can maneuver in 360 degrees so his G3 attacks arent gonna hit
What? You just agreed it was an even match up and then in the next set of words you call it a clean sweep, and then in the next sentence you say Dofla is a bad matchup for him. Make up your mind, think your too fuddled right now or something lol.
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On April 13 2015 05:36 Elentos wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 05:30 Forikorder wrote:On April 13 2015 05:13 Elentos wrote:On April 13 2015 05:08 TMG26 wrote:On April 13 2015 04:54 Elentos wrote:
I just realised that DD is literally Freeza about to destroy planet Namek and Luffy's G4 is Super Saiyan. The question is how I will get these images out of my head. So, DD will have another power up, will start to win over Luffy, but gets tired, and Luffy takes over, states that the fight is over, turns back with a smug face that pisses DD, A pissed DD uses an attack that hit himself eventually. Bird cage is coming to him, despite DD being unable to move, DD begs Luffy to help him, Luffy does, DD gets pissed again with that mercy high face stuff, and attacks Luffy out of frustation, Luffy ends the fight. Sorry but Oda has yet to give us a Arc ending on the caliber of Freeza. I mean, if the big battle between Luffy and DD just ends in the next chapter I'll be disappointed because DD was hyped so much. And it's less that Freeza got a power up, it's that he started using all his power. So maybe if DD is finally forced to use all his power the situation is somewhat similar. Although Luffy will not stop the fight until DD is unconscious and the Birdcage dissolves, obviously. He doesn't Goku things like that. why would people get disapointed the fights been going on for a good time and hes had like all his organs ruptured i wouldnt be surprised if it all ends next chapter Couple of reasons: - Luffy and Doffy actually haven't fought a lot, mostly small exchanges, they only really started fighting in the most recent chapter. Most of the fight has been Law vs Doffy.
- Luffy needs to have a chance to show off in an actual fight imo.*
- Doffy has been hyped up as an incredibly powerful combatant. Even after sustaining the injuries you mentioned, in the last chapter he also said that Luffy's haki infused attacks barely hurt him.
If it has to end in one chapter, at least it shouldn't be a one-sided stomp. All I ask. Edit: * means I don't consider Hody, Caesar and Don Chinjao actual fights because none of them gave him enough struggle to bring out G4.
Luffy vs Boat was a pretty good fight imo.
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On April 13 2015 07:53 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 07:50 Zooper31 wrote:On April 13 2015 07:42 Forikorder wrote:On April 13 2015 06:38 TMG26 wrote:On April 13 2015 06:28 Forikorder wrote:
if it wasnt for the bird cage Luffy probably wouldnt ahve gone up a gear hes just on a time limit so he has to end it quickly and hes Dofla is fast enough to get around his G3 big hits
You are delusional. Go read the chapter again. Luffy uses G2, DD shrugs it off saying it is fast but too weak. Luffy uses G3 DD just evades. DD was in control that's why Luffy used G4, bird cage just extra incentive. even if he can avoid his G3 attacks Luffy has the obvious advantage in the fight, Doflamingo organs arent gonna hold forever so hes too much on the defensive and cant really hurt Luffy hes doing a good job dancing around but the only difficulty is Luffy finding an opportunity to clsoe the fight decisively Luffy's also took a good bit of damage and I doubt he can keep up the pace of the fight forever. Right now they are evenly matched and Luffy is at the disadvantage because of the bird cage being on a timer. Hence why he has to break out gear 4. right so if it wasnt for the timer and all of Doflas tricks it would ahve been a clean sweepDofla is just a bad match up for him since he can maneuver in 360 degrees so his G3 attacks arent gonna hit
What? This is getting ridiculous. The only hit Luffy has gotten in that actually hurt DD was the Red Hawk, and that was only superficial damage from a surprise attack he didn't have haki defenses up for. How would he achieve a clean sweep against an opponent he hasn't even managed to hurt on his own yet?
On April 13 2015 07:59 ZigguratOfUr wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 05:36 Elentos wrote:On April 13 2015 05:30 Forikorder wrote:On April 13 2015 05:13 Elentos wrote:On April 13 2015 05:08 TMG26 wrote:On April 13 2015 04:54 Elentos wrote:
I just realised that DD is literally Freeza about to destroy planet Namek and Luffy's G4 is Super Saiyan. The question is how I will get these images out of my head. So, DD will have another power up, will start to win over Luffy, but gets tired, and Luffy takes over, states that the fight is over, turns back with a smug face that pisses DD, A pissed DD uses an attack that hit himself eventually. Bird cage is coming to him, despite DD being unable to move, DD begs Luffy to help him, Luffy does, DD gets pissed again with that mercy high face stuff, and attacks Luffy out of frustation, Luffy ends the fight. Sorry but Oda has yet to give us a Arc ending on the caliber of Freeza. I mean, if the big battle between Luffy and DD just ends in the next chapter I'll be disappointed because DD was hyped so much. And it's less that Freeza got a power up, it's that he started using all his power. So maybe if DD is finally forced to use all his power the situation is somewhat similar. Although Luffy will not stop the fight until DD is unconscious and the Birdcage dissolves, obviously. He doesn't Goku things like that. why would people get disapointed the fights been going on for a good time and hes had like all his organs ruptured i wouldnt be surprised if it all ends next chapter Couple of reasons: - Luffy and Doffy actually haven't fought a lot, mostly small exchanges, they only really started fighting in the most recent chapter. Most of the fight has been Law vs Doffy.
- Luffy needs to have a chance to show off in an actual fight imo.*
- Doffy has been hyped up as an incredibly powerful combatant. Even after sustaining the injuries you mentioned, in the last chapter he also said that Luffy's haki infused attacks barely hurt him.
If it has to end in one chapter, at least it shouldn't be a one-sided stomp. All I ask. Edit: * means I don't consider Hody, Caesar and Don Chinjao actual fights because none of them gave him enough struggle to bring out G4. Luffy vs Boat was a pretty good fight imo.
That one at least put up a fight I guess. 
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Even if Luffy hasn't landed many hits, he's technically been fighting DD for a while now. I don't think the fight will end next chapter, but it's most likely going to reach it's conclusion very soon. DD seems to have shown all his tricks by now, and Luffy's about to unleash his next gear.
DD is either going to be defeated here very soon, or he's going to escape (or at least attempt to).
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A lesson for the new friends of this thread: don't get in circular arguments with Forik. Debating things like power levels will get you nowhere.
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On April 13 2015 07:57 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 07:53 Forikorder wrote:On April 13 2015 07:50 Zooper31 wrote:On April 13 2015 07:42 Forikorder wrote:On April 13 2015 06:38 TMG26 wrote:On April 13 2015 06:28 Forikorder wrote:
if it wasnt for the bird cage Luffy probably wouldnt ahve gone up a gear hes just on a time limit so he has to end it quickly and hes Dofla is fast enough to get around his G3 big hits
You are delusional. Go read the chapter again. Luffy uses G2, DD shrugs it off saying it is fast but too weak. Luffy uses G3 DD just evades. DD was in control that's why Luffy used G4, bird cage just extra incentive. even if he can avoid his G3 attacks Luffy has the obvious advantage in the fight, Doflamingo organs arent gonna hold forever so hes too much on the defensive and cant really hurt Luffy hes doing a good job dancing around but the only difficulty is Luffy finding an opportunity to clsoe the fight decisively Luffy's also took a good bit of damage and I doubt he can keep up the pace of the fight forever. Right now they are evenly matched and Luffy is at the disadvantage because of the bird cage being on a timer. Hence why he has to break out gear 4. right so if it wasnt for the timer and all of Doflas tricks it would ahve been a clean sweep Dofla is just a bad match up for him since he can maneuver in 360 degrees so his G3 attacks arent gonna hit What? You just agreed it was an even match up and then in the next set of words you call it a clean sweep, and then in the next sentence you say Dofla is a bad matchup for him. Make up your mind, think your too fuddled right now or something lol.
i never said it was an even match, Luffy is stronger then Dofla Dofla can just dodge his finisher so Luffy is having a tough time closing it out
Dofla is good at capitilizing on his advantage but his advantage is purely defensive and when it comes to it Luffy will 100% win the fight the only question is how long that would take
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On April 13 2015 08:22 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 07:57 Zooper31 wrote:On April 13 2015 07:53 Forikorder wrote:On April 13 2015 07:50 Zooper31 wrote:On April 13 2015 07:42 Forikorder wrote:On April 13 2015 06:38 TMG26 wrote:On April 13 2015 06:28 Forikorder wrote:
if it wasnt for the bird cage Luffy probably wouldnt ahve gone up a gear hes just on a time limit so he has to end it quickly and hes Dofla is fast enough to get around his G3 big hits
You are delusional. Go read the chapter again. Luffy uses G2, DD shrugs it off saying it is fast but too weak. Luffy uses G3 DD just evades. DD was in control that's why Luffy used G4, bird cage just extra incentive. even if he can avoid his G3 attacks Luffy has the obvious advantage in the fight, Doflamingo organs arent gonna hold forever so hes too much on the defensive and cant really hurt Luffy hes doing a good job dancing around but the only difficulty is Luffy finding an opportunity to clsoe the fight decisively Luffy's also took a good bit of damage and I doubt he can keep up the pace of the fight forever. Right now they are evenly matched and Luffy is at the disadvantage because of the bird cage being on a timer. Hence why he has to break out gear 4. right so if it wasnt for the timer and all of Doflas tricks it would ahve been a clean sweep Dofla is just a bad match up for him since he can maneuver in 360 degrees so his G3 attacks arent gonna hit What? You just agreed it was an even match up and then in the next set of words you call it a clean sweep, and then in the next sentence you say Dofla is a bad matchup for him. Make up your mind, think your too fuddled right now or something lol. i never said it was an even match, Luffy is stronger then Dofla Dofla can just dodge his finisher so Luffy is having a tough time closing it out Dofla is good at capitilizing on his advantage but his advantage is purely defensive and when it comes to it Luffy will 100% win the fight the only question is how long that would take
ofc luffy will win the fight, he is the main character of a shonen manga He has the power of friendship
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It's pretty clear from the beginning that DD is weaker than Luffy.
Unlike Crocodile who kept fighting and beating Luffy, DD kept avoiding Luffy.
He's cocky as fuck but he knows his own limits. Straight up he can't win
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bwhahah i love you Forik. You are easily my favorite poster in this thread.
I cant imagine TL OP without you.
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On April 13 2015 15:46 sharkie wrote:
It's pretty clear from the beginning that DD is weaker than Luffy.
Unlike Crocodile who kept fighting and beating Luffy, DD kept avoiding Luffy.
He's cocky as fuck but he knows his own limits. Straight up he can't win
I think that's more like DD playing around with Luffy.
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I don't agree that DD is weaker then Luffy.
His DF power and control is better, he is smarter, more experienced and his Haki control is atleast equal to Luffy's.
My opinion is that Luffy wouldn't even stand a chance if not for his nakama and luck.
What DD never did, was underestimate Luffy, like Crocodile, Luccy, Enel, Moria, etc..
DD aknowledged that Luffy always managed to pull thru so he always tried to make things happen but he didn't want to kill Luffy and Law, especially Law, killing him would have been easy because he had to many chances before Luffy saved him
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I thought that in general Doflamingo is scared of something D. something.
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I'm pretty sure Mancherie will heal Law and Law will finish DD by suprise after Luffy's gear 4 doesn't do enough and he is about to lose. This all is about Law and DD anyway, and if you read the last chapter again you'll see the panel with Mancherie and Leo after Law tells about his resolution towards DD.
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On April 15 2015 01:08 Mosoball wrote:
I'm pretty sure Mancherie will heal Law and Law will finish DD by suprise after Luffy's gear 4 doesn't do enough and he is about to lose. This all is about Law and DD anyway, and if you read the last chapter again you'll see the panel with Mancherie and Leo after Law tells about his resolution towards DD.
nah luffy will reck him with g4
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Luffy and Zoro have Shichibukai-level strength but it took them a long time (Luffy defeated Crocodile how many years ago?).
They can say all they want about taking down a Yonko, but unless Oda speeds the progression of the series, that undertaking could require as many chapters as we've had so far.
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