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On April 11 2015 16:36 upitine wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 10:03 Hyperbola wrote:On April 11 2015 04:45 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On April 11 2015 04:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 11 2015 03:37 Sentenal wrote:
I can't imagine Doflamingo lasting much longer, especially with Gear Fourth about to be busted out. So soon Dressrosa will be finished, and we will finally get to see Sanji. Probably within the next two months! I seriously doubt it. The next two months is probably only something like 4-5 chapters first of all. And we still have to settle the fight with Doffy, Trebol's dark manipulations, the marines and Fujitora, the revolutionaries and Sabo, Burgess and wherever he's disappeared to, CP0, and probably some stuff I've missed. I think we'll hear about Sanji sometime in August or even later. 1 chapter for Doffy fight 1 Chapter to wrap up the marines They aren't going to do much IMO. Fuji going to retreat after the birdcage is down, no way they try and fight The Straw Hats and Sabo+ Revolutionary army at once. 1 Chapter for Trebol shit. 1 Chapter for Luffy introducing his crew to Sabo and a bit of explanation with what Robin did with the revolutionaires in the two years. Giving some extra time for a few of them I'm going to put my guess at 6-7 chapters until we see Sanji again. CP0 and Burgess are both long gone probably won't find out about them for a while. One chapter for Doffy? Not happening. Like it or not but One Piece has become a lot like Naruto. It will take three chapters minimum for Luffy to take out Doffy, and only after getting knocked out and getting back up with the power of friendship. Then we'll have like maybe 2 chapters of epilogue and then only after the SHs set sail will the whole marine situation be resolved. Also I predict Doffy survives and runs away. He won't get arrested because then he'd be executed by the Tentiburitos so he'll probably run into Kaido and get fucked up. This is what I fear - an unsatisfactory conclusion to the battle. Doflamingo is one crafty bastard. Off topic: After seeing Ace's death as a catalyst for Luffy's further development and plot advancement, I fear Sabo will be inevitably become sacrificed for similar purposes. After all, a (pirate) king doesn't need surviving older brothers. There could be an picture of Luffy staring into the distance, with the images on deceased Ace and Sabo on either side in the background.
I saw a theory where Luffy is going to die in the end because of overusing gear 2 amongst other things, in a similar manner to the way Gol D Roger is going to die; having a terminal health problem, letting himself get caught by his marine rival (Garp/Coby) and then hailing a new age of pirates with new goals.
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On April 11 2015 22:19 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 16:36 upitine wrote:On April 11 2015 10:03 Hyperbola wrote:On April 11 2015 04:45 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On April 11 2015 04:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 11 2015 03:37 Sentenal wrote:
I can't imagine Doflamingo lasting much longer, especially with Gear Fourth about to be busted out. So soon Dressrosa will be finished, and we will finally get to see Sanji. Probably within the next two months! I seriously doubt it. The next two months is probably only something like 4-5 chapters first of all. And we still have to settle the fight with Doffy, Trebol's dark manipulations, the marines and Fujitora, the revolutionaries and Sabo, Burgess and wherever he's disappeared to, CP0, and probably some stuff I've missed. I think we'll hear about Sanji sometime in August or even later. 1 chapter for Doffy fight 1 Chapter to wrap up the marines They aren't going to do much IMO. Fuji going to retreat after the birdcage is down, no way they try and fight The Straw Hats and Sabo+ Revolutionary army at once. 1 Chapter for Trebol shit. 1 Chapter for Luffy introducing his crew to Sabo and a bit of explanation with what Robin did with the revolutionaires in the two years. Giving some extra time for a few of them I'm going to put my guess at 6-7 chapters until we see Sanji again. CP0 and Burgess are both long gone probably won't find out about them for a while. One chapter for Doffy? Not happening. Like it or not but One Piece has become a lot like Naruto. It will take three chapters minimum for Luffy to take out Doffy, and only after getting knocked out and getting back up with the power of friendship. Then we'll have like maybe 2 chapters of epilogue and then only after the SHs set sail will the whole marine situation be resolved. Also I predict Doffy survives and runs away. He won't get arrested because then he'd be executed by the Tentiburitos so he'll probably run into Kaido and get fucked up. This is what I fear - an unsatisfactory conclusion to the battle. Doflamingo is one crafty bastard. Off topic: After seeing Ace's death as a catalyst for Luffy's further development and plot advancement, I fear Sabo will be inevitably become sacrificed for similar purposes. After all, a (pirate) king doesn't need surviving older brothers. There could be an picture of Luffy staring into the distance, with the images on deceased Ace and Sabo on either side in the background. I saw a theory where Luffy is going to die in the end because of overusing gear 2 amongst other things, in a similar manner to the way Gol D Roger is going to die; having a terminal health problem, letting himself get caught by his marine rival (Garp/Coby) and then hailing a new age of pirates with new goals.
Or maybe he's going to die just like Roger because he's actually, literally going to become Roger  )))
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On April 12 2015 00:53 Hyperbola wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 22:19 saltywet wrote:On April 11 2015 16:36 upitine wrote:On April 11 2015 10:03 Hyperbola wrote:On April 11 2015 04:45 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On April 11 2015 04:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 11 2015 03:37 Sentenal wrote:
I can't imagine Doflamingo lasting much longer, especially with Gear Fourth about to be busted out. So soon Dressrosa will be finished, and we will finally get to see Sanji. Probably within the next two months! I seriously doubt it. The next two months is probably only something like 4-5 chapters first of all. And we still have to settle the fight with Doffy, Trebol's dark manipulations, the marines and Fujitora, the revolutionaries and Sabo, Burgess and wherever he's disappeared to, CP0, and probably some stuff I've missed. I think we'll hear about Sanji sometime in August or even later. 1 chapter for Doffy fight 1 Chapter to wrap up the marines They aren't going to do much IMO. Fuji going to retreat after the birdcage is down, no way they try and fight The Straw Hats and Sabo+ Revolutionary army at once. 1 Chapter for Trebol shit. 1 Chapter for Luffy introducing his crew to Sabo and a bit of explanation with what Robin did with the revolutionaires in the two years. Giving some extra time for a few of them I'm going to put my guess at 6-7 chapters until we see Sanji again. CP0 and Burgess are both long gone probably won't find out about them for a while. One chapter for Doffy? Not happening. Like it or not but One Piece has become a lot like Naruto. It will take three chapters minimum for Luffy to take out Doffy, and only after getting knocked out and getting back up with the power of friendship. Then we'll have like maybe 2 chapters of epilogue and then only after the SHs set sail will the whole marine situation be resolved. Also I predict Doffy survives and runs away. He won't get arrested because then he'd be executed by the Tentiburitos so he'll probably run into Kaido and get fucked up. This is what I fear - an unsatisfactory conclusion to the battle. Doflamingo is one crafty bastard. Off topic: After seeing Ace's death as a catalyst for Luffy's further development and plot advancement, I fear Sabo will be inevitably become sacrificed for similar purposes. After all, a (pirate) king doesn't need surviving older brothers. There could be an picture of Luffy staring into the distance, with the images on deceased Ace and Sabo on either side in the background. I saw a theory where Luffy is going to die in the end because of overusing gear 2 amongst other things, in a similar manner to the way Gol D Roger is going to die; having a terminal health problem, letting himself get caught by his marine rival (Garp/Coby) and then hailing a new age of pirates with new goals. Or maybe he's going to die just like Roger because he's actually, literally going to become Roger )))
if hes not roger reincarnated already
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Finish mingo in 1 chapter? What drug are you on.
Do you even remember how many chapter it took to finish crocodile? Enel? Rob lucci?
1 chapter just for gear 4? That'll be an insult.
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On April 11 2015 22:19 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 16:36 upitine wrote:On April 11 2015 10:03 Hyperbola wrote:On April 11 2015 04:45 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On April 11 2015 04:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 11 2015 03:37 Sentenal wrote:
I can't imagine Doflamingo lasting much longer, especially with Gear Fourth about to be busted out. So soon Dressrosa will be finished, and we will finally get to see Sanji. Probably within the next two months! I seriously doubt it. The next two months is probably only something like 4-5 chapters first of all. And we still have to settle the fight with Doffy, Trebol's dark manipulations, the marines and Fujitora, the revolutionaries and Sabo, Burgess and wherever he's disappeared to, CP0, and probably some stuff I've missed. I think we'll hear about Sanji sometime in August or even later. 1 chapter for Doffy fight 1 Chapter to wrap up the marines They aren't going to do much IMO. Fuji going to retreat after the birdcage is down, no way they try and fight The Straw Hats and Sabo+ Revolutionary army at once. 1 Chapter for Trebol shit. 1 Chapter for Luffy introducing his crew to Sabo and a bit of explanation with what Robin did with the revolutionaires in the two years. Giving some extra time for a few of them I'm going to put my guess at 6-7 chapters until we see Sanji again. CP0 and Burgess are both long gone probably won't find out about them for a while. One chapter for Doffy? Not happening. Like it or not but One Piece has become a lot like Naruto. It will take three chapters minimum for Luffy to take out Doffy, and only after getting knocked out and getting back up with the power of friendship. Then we'll have like maybe 2 chapters of epilogue and then only after the SHs set sail will the whole marine situation be resolved. Also I predict Doffy survives and runs away. He won't get arrested because then he'd be executed by the Tentiburitos so he'll probably run into Kaido and get fucked up. This is what I fear - an unsatisfactory conclusion to the battle. Doflamingo is one crafty bastard. Off topic: After seeing Ace's death as a catalyst for Luffy's further development and plot advancement, I fear Sabo will be inevitably become sacrificed for similar purposes. After all, a (pirate) king doesn't need surviving older brothers. There could be an picture of Luffy staring into the distance, with the images on deceased Ace and Sabo on either side in the background. I saw a theory where Luffy is going to die in the end because of overusing gear 2 amongst other things, in a similar manner to the way Gol D Roger is going to die; having a terminal health problem, letting himself get caught by his marine rival (Garp/Coby) and then hailing a new age of pirates with new goals.
I think it's fine if Luffy lives as long as Roger. That guy was like Ace's age when he started and maybe late-30s when he died.
Luffy is still this young, strong, and far into the grand line. The outlook on his future accomplishments is arguably a lot better.
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On April 12 2015 02:05 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Finish mingo in 1 chapter? What drug are you on.
Do you even remember how many chapter it took to finish crocodile? Enel? Rob lucci?
1 chapter just for gear 4? That'll be an insult.
Would certainly be anticlimactic if it goes from Luffy's attacks tickling Doffy to Luffy whooping his ass.
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On April 11 2015 22:19 saltywet wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2015 16:36 upitine wrote:On April 11 2015 10:03 Hyperbola wrote:On April 11 2015 04:45 Necro)Phagist( wrote:On April 11 2015 04:03 ZigguratOfUr wrote:On April 11 2015 03:37 Sentenal wrote:
I can't imagine Doflamingo lasting much longer, especially with Gear Fourth about to be busted out. So soon Dressrosa will be finished, and we will finally get to see Sanji. Probably within the next two months! I seriously doubt it. The next two months is probably only something like 4-5 chapters first of all. And we still have to settle the fight with Doffy, Trebol's dark manipulations, the marines and Fujitora, the revolutionaries and Sabo, Burgess and wherever he's disappeared to, CP0, and probably some stuff I've missed. I think we'll hear about Sanji sometime in August or even later. 1 chapter for Doffy fight 1 Chapter to wrap up the marines They aren't going to do much IMO. Fuji going to retreat after the birdcage is down, no way they try and fight The Straw Hats and Sabo+ Revolutionary army at once. 1 Chapter for Trebol shit. 1 Chapter for Luffy introducing his crew to Sabo and a bit of explanation with what Robin did with the revolutionaires in the two years. Giving some extra time for a few of them I'm going to put my guess at 6-7 chapters until we see Sanji again. CP0 and Burgess are both long gone probably won't find out about them for a while. One chapter for Doffy? Not happening. Like it or not but One Piece has become a lot like Naruto. It will take three chapters minimum for Luffy to take out Doffy, and only after getting knocked out and getting back up with the power of friendship. Then we'll have like maybe 2 chapters of epilogue and then only after the SHs set sail will the whole marine situation be resolved. Also I predict Doffy survives and runs away. He won't get arrested because then he'd be executed by the Tentiburitos so he'll probably run into Kaido and get fucked up. This is what I fear - an unsatisfactory conclusion to the battle. Doflamingo is one crafty bastard. Off topic: After seeing Ace's death as a catalyst for Luffy's further development and plot advancement, I fear Sabo will be inevitably become sacrificed for similar purposes. After all, a (pirate) king doesn't need surviving older brothers. There could be an picture of Luffy staring into the distance, with the images on deceased Ace and Sabo on either side in the background. I saw a theory where Luffy is going to die in the end because of overusing gear 2 amongst other things, in a similar manner to the way Gol D Roger is going to die; having a terminal health problem, letting himself get caught by his marine rival (Garp/Coby) and then hailing a new age of pirates with new goals.
thats kind of stupid because theres a reason why roger said to all to find one piece. He told people to find one piece and reveal void history, do other grand things so the world can go back to glory days. Oda is not gonna do that. Luffy will die after getting one piece and activiating it
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Once defeated and vulnerable, I imagine Doflamingo could be killed by the Tenryuubito to preserve their secret.
That would be sad since Doffy - despite how spoiled and arrogant he was and how evil he later became - is a victim of the conflicts caused by the Tenryuubito's oppression.
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On April 12 2015 12:14 upitine wrote:
Once defeated and vulnerable, I imagine Doflamingo could be killed by the Tenryuubito to preserve their secret.
That would be sad since Doffy - despite how spoiled and arrogant he was and how evil he later became - is a victim of the conflicts caused by the Tenryuubito's oppression.
and the executives brainwashing
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Brainwashing? Pampering, sure, but Doflamingo was already twisted before they even met him.
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On April 12 2015 12:56 Sentenal wrote:
Brainwashing? Pampering, sure, but Doflamingo was already twisted before they even met him.
sure but they filled his head with all that king crap like killing kids who picked on him or destroying cities he didnt like, his personality is a direct result of there work, thats how they wanted him to be and worked on ensuring he would turn out like that
if he got picked up by someone else he could ahve ended up as a good person
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You know if this arc is really trying to be Alabasta: New World Edition then Fujitora is going to get the credit for "taking down" Doflamingo, isn't he? Too bad he's already a god damn Admiral. You can't really go any higher from there without dethroning Akainu. And Akainu WILL. NOT. BE. DETHRONED.
Oh wait holy fuck what if Fujitora uses this new political capital to disband the Shichibukai? Hahaha poor Buggy haha.
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On April 12 2015 13:03 Hyperbola wrote:
You know if this arc is really trying to be Alabasta: New World Edition then Fujitora is going to get the credit for "taking down" Doflamingo, isn't he? Too bad he's already a god damn Admiral. You can't really go any higher from there without dethroning Akainu. And Akainu WILL. NOT. BE. DETHRONED.
Oh wait holy fuck what if Fujitora uses this new political capital to disband the Shichibukai? Hahaha poor Buggy haha.
a Shichibukai took over a country then attempted to slaughter every inhabitant while the navy watched from the side lines
this is getting swept under the rug, especially since hes recieved support from the CP0 theres too much damage that story can cause
also theres his while slave deal with all the toys
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On April 12 2015 12:58 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 12:56 Sentenal wrote:
Brainwashing? Pampering, sure, but Doflamingo was already twisted before they even met him. sure but they filled his head with all that king crap like killing kids who picked on him or destroying cities he didnt like, his personality is a direct result of there work, thats how they wanted him to be and worked on ensuring he would turn out like that if he got picked up by someone else he could ahve ended up as a good person
Remember Doflamingo asking his father for a gun, so he could go shoot someone who talked back to him? He already had a Tenryubito-eqsue "the world belongs to me" mindset.
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On April 12 2015 13:28 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 13:03 Hyperbola wrote:
You know if this arc is really trying to be Alabasta: New World Edition then Fujitora is going to get the credit for "taking down" Doflamingo, isn't he? Too bad he's already a god damn Admiral. You can't really go any higher from there without dethroning Akainu. And Akainu WILL. NOT. BE. DETHRONED.
Oh wait holy fuck what if Fujitora uses this new political capital to disband the Shichibukai? Hahaha poor Buggy haha. a Shichibukai took over a country then attempted to slaughter every inhabitant while the navy watched from the side lines this is getting swept under the rug, especially since hes recieved support from the CP0 theres too much damage that story can cause also theres his while slave deal with all the toys
I don't think you understand how information travels. Everyone will know about this. Everyone in Dressrosa who survives will know exactly what happened. With Doflamingo defeated, CP0 will have no reason to support him. The only reason the ten buritos work with Doflamingo is because they were never able to take him out. Well now he's been dealt with. They might not capture him but his entire organization has been destroyed. Doflamingo is no longer a threat and thus he will no longer get any special treatment.
Think about how much of a bad rep the Shichibukai have as an organization. In the past 2 years they have lost 5 members and are about to lose a 6th. They are prone to abuse - Blackbeard, Crocodile and now Doflaingo. The government need someone to take the blame for this and they cannot sweep this under the rug. Fujitora will take the credit, if no one else.
Now add the two together. Another huge Shichibukai scandal + Fujitora getting wide recognition = Fujitora demanding the order is destroyed. He stated outright that he wants it gone and this is the best possible chance he will ever get.
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Ah..........I suddenly remember of Big Mom & !!! CP0 . . .
Their appearance means trouble, but until now has not explain yet . . . . .)!)(!
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On April 12 2015 13:58 Sentenal wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 12:58 Forikorder wrote:On April 12 2015 12:56 Sentenal wrote:
Brainwashing? Pampering, sure, but Doflamingo was already twisted before they even met him. sure but they filled his head with all that king crap like killing kids who picked on him or destroying cities he didnt like, his personality is a direct result of there work, thats how they wanted him to be and worked on ensuring he would turn out like that if he got picked up by someone else he could ahve ended up as a good person Remember Doflamingo asking his father for a gun, so he could go shoot someone who talked back to him? He already had a Tenryubito-eqsue "the world belongs to me" mindset.
sure but that could have broken, he was pretty young it only managed to remain because the executives treated him exactly like a Tenryubito
I don't think you understand how information travels. Everyone will know about this. Everyone in Dressrosa who survives will know exactly what happened. With Doflamingo defeated, CP0 will have no reason to support him. The only reason the ten buritos work with Doflamingo is because they were never able to take him out. Well now he's been dealt with. They might not capture him but his entire organization has been destroyed. Doflamingo is no longer a threat and thus he will no longer get any special treatment.
its there ass theyd want to cover, and even if everyone in Dressrossa knows about it if they dont tell the secret stays there
Think about how much of a bad rep the Shichibukai have as an organization. In the past 2 years they have lost 5 members and are about to lose a 6th. They are prone to abuse - Blackbeard, Crocodile and now Doflaingo. The government need someone to take the blame for this and they cannot sweep this under the rug. Fujitora will take the credit, if no one else.
Now add the two together. Another huge Shichibukai scandal + Fujitora getting wide recognition = Fujitora demanding the order is destroyed. He stated outright that he wants it gone and this is the best possible chance he will ever get.
why would they do that though? the higher ups dont really care if a couple pirates abuse the system keeping the Shichibukai on a leash works better for them and in general theyd be doing less damage to the WG then if they were all pirates with crews
i doubt theyd let him disband the Shichibukai just because he just so happened to be present at Dressrossa when shit hit the fan
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Bro, you can't halt the spread of a shitstorm this massive. Dressrosa not only has its citizens which are furious about what happened, it also has many, many other foreigners that were turned into dolls like the gladiators, visiting kings, government agents. Word will spread and besides executing everyone on the island (which is what Doffy is trying to do) the government cannot do anything about it. And the shichibukai will get torn a new asshole for this.
There is an entire chapter called "Fujitora's intention" in which he describes his goal. Now, whether or not he will dissolve the shichibukai right away is another matter. He might not immediately, given the fact that he he mentions reverie and thus is willing to wait until then. But with this notch under his belt, he has a LOT of ammunition to go with and when he's faced with the heads of all the nations they will have to listen to him.
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ten buritos, my sides, that's a good one!
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Yeah, dismissing the Schichibukai's totally a possiblity.
It could tend to WG deciding they need another Admiral, in order to match the Yonkou's number.
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