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SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
September 12 2013 03:40 GMT
#7521
I really hope this whole vacuum ice thingy was just a miss translation because it make no sense -_-
I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 12 2013 03:56 GMT
#7522
On September 12 2013 12:40 SheaR619 wrote:
I really hope this whole vacuum ice thingy was just a miss translation because it make no sense -_-

I think it's suppose to create super dense ice.
liftlift > tsm
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 12 2013 03:57 GMT
#7523
On September 12 2013 12:56 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 12:40 SheaR619 wrote:
I really hope this whole vacuum ice thingy was just a miss translation because it make no sense -_-

I think it's suppose to create super dense ice.

by adding layers of vacuum? besides the soldiers earlier were like "woa this ice is soooooooo thin"
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
September 12 2013 04:06 GMT
#7524
People are still trying to make sense out of shounen science?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 12 2013 04:10 GMT
#7525
On September 12 2013 12:57 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 12:56 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 12 2013 12:40 SheaR619 wrote:
I really hope this whole vacuum ice thingy was just a miss translation because it make no sense -_-

I think it's suppose to create super dense ice.

by adding layers of vacuum? besides the soldiers earlier were like "woa this ice is soooooooo thin"

dense =! volume.

Think about it this way, if you can compress spiritual particle of ices with a vacuum, the ice would be super thin, and be super strong.
liftlift > tsm
SheaR619
Profile Joined October 2010
United States2399 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 04:16:56
September 12 2013 04:16 GMT
#7526
On September 12 2013 13:06 ZenithM wrote:
People are still trying to make sense out of shounen science?


Not necessarily make sense but more like just able to comprehend it at least to some degree :/

Atleast some of it kinda make sense but it kinda hard to grasp the fact that Hitsuguya is in theory actually weaker than Ichigo with his old bankai form.

I may not be the best, but i will be some day...
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 12 2013 04:23 GMT
#7527
On September 12 2013 13:10 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 12:57 Forikorder wrote:
On September 12 2013 12:56 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 12 2013 12:40 SheaR619 wrote:
I really hope this whole vacuum ice thingy was just a miss translation because it make no sense -_-

I think it's suppose to create super dense ice.

by adding layers of vacuum? besides the soldiers earlier were like "woa this ice is soooooooo thin"

dense =! volume.

Think about it this way, if you can compress spiritual particle of ices with a vacuum, the ice would be super thin, and be super strong.

but he siad that he made the ice like a giant puff pastry but instead of delicious melty butter its vacuum and instead of crunchy pastry its ice

theres only a vacuum becuase he freezesMatsumotos Hineko then she pulls her Zanpaktou backleaving a layer of vacuum
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 04:25:39
September 12 2013 04:24 GMT
#7528
Hitsugaya was never a strong captain to begin with...
This was a "I'm not strong but I make up for it by being a genius blah blah blah super smart science trick stuff but still not as awesome as the big guys" chapter. I don't see a need to "comprehend" the super smart science trick ;D

Edit: Well maybe I'm the only one here who reads Bleach like an eternally running joke :D
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 12 2013 04:25 GMT
#7529
On September 12 2013 13:23 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 13:10 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 12 2013 12:57 Forikorder wrote:
On September 12 2013 12:56 wei2coolman wrote:
On September 12 2013 12:40 SheaR619 wrote:
I really hope this whole vacuum ice thingy was just a miss translation because it make no sense -_-

I think it's suppose to create super dense ice.

by adding layers of vacuum? besides the soldiers earlier were like "woa this ice is soooooooo thin"

dense =! volume.

Think about it this way, if you can compress spiritual particle of ices with a vacuum, the ice would be super thin, and be super strong.

but he siad that he made the ice like a giant puff pastry but instead of delicious melty butter its vacuum and instead of crunchy pastry its ice

theres only a vacuum becuase he freezesMatsumotos Hineko then she pulls her Zanpaktou backleaving a layer of vacuum

You make it sound as if dense/layers don't work.

Each layer is very dense, created by the vacuum.
liftlift > tsm
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 04:27:26
September 12 2013 04:26 GMT
#7530
On September 12 2013 13:24 ZenithM wrote:
Hitsugaya was never a strong captain to begin with...
This was a "I'm not strong but I make up for it by being a genius blah blah blah super smart science trick stuff but still not as awesome as the big guys" chapter. I don't see a need to "comprehend" the super smart science trick ;D

becuase its not a super smart science trick at all >: (

also pink dude was all like "that dudes gonna be stronger then me someday" and he did take down arrancar water chiki solo

You make it sound as if dense/layers don't work.

Each layer is very dense, created by the vacuum.


the vacuum only gets created AFTER he creates the ice though he cant create a vacuum then create ice
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
September 12 2013 04:32 GMT
#7531
On September 12 2013 13:26 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 13:24 ZenithM wrote:
Hitsugaya was never a strong captain to begin with...
This was a "I'm not strong but I make up for it by being a genius blah blah blah super smart science trick stuff but still not as awesome as the big guys" chapter. I don't see a need to "comprehend" the super smart science trick ;D

becuase its not a super smart science trick at all >: (

also pink dude was all like "that dudes gonna be stronger then me someday" and he did take down arrancar water chiki solo

Show nested quote +
You make it sound as if dense/layers don't work.

Each layer is very dense, created by the vacuum.


the vacuum only gets created AFTER he creates the ice though he cant create a vacuum then create ice

create enough vacuum, each layer becomes thinner/dense.
liftlift > tsm
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
September 12 2013 04:38 GMT
#7532
On September 12 2013 13:32 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 13:26 Forikorder wrote:
On September 12 2013 13:24 ZenithM wrote:
Hitsugaya was never a strong captain to begin with...
This was a "I'm not strong but I make up for it by being a genius blah blah blah super smart science trick stuff but still not as awesome as the big guys" chapter. I don't see a need to "comprehend" the super smart science trick ;D

becuase its not a super smart science trick at all >: (

also pink dude was all like "that dudes gonna be stronger then me someday" and he did take down arrancar water chiki solo

You make it sound as if dense/layers don't work.

Each layer is very dense, created by the vacuum.


the vacuum only gets created AFTER he creates the ice though he cant create a vacuum then create ice

create enough vacuum, each layer becomes thinner/dense.

but he wasnt having a problem melting the ice though just for some reason he couldnt melt more then one layer at a time

also not clear how a vacuum creates super dense ice
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
September 12 2013 04:40 GMT
#7533
Okay...
See:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicPoweredPseudoscience
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSparkOfGenius
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AppliedPhlebotinum
Felchicken
Profile Joined February 2012
Australia106 Posts
September 12 2013 09:21 GMT
#7534
I think the author is trying to appeal to the fact that fire needs oxygen to burn, and by "layering" the ice with vaccuum creates multiple barriers with no oxygen. So effectively the fire is only allowed to burn through the outer most layer of ice before being unable to continue...
sumsaR
Profile Joined January 2013
Sweden1812 Posts
September 12 2013 11:32 GMT
#7535
On September 12 2013 13:06 ZenithM wrote:
People are still trying to make sense out of shounen science?

On September 12 2013 13:40 ZenithM wrote:
Okay...
See:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MagicPoweredPseudoscience
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheSparkOfGenius
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AppliedPhlebotinum

It doesn't accomplish this though, which is the main problem people (me included) has with it.
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-09-12 12:10:33
September 12 2013 12:10 GMT
#7536
Well it certainly works with me. The thing is precisely not to try to figure the trick out. What was important in that scene was that there is a trick that helps Hitsugaya, a genius-with-potential-yet-still-a-weakling, to triumph, and that the visuals look cool :D

I do science for a living, I'm not gonna try to find it in a shounen manga, Kubo's manga especially.
Lysteria
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
France2280 Posts
September 12 2013 12:21 GMT
#7537
On September 12 2013 21:10 ZenithM wrote:
Kubo's manga especially.


This.
I'm sure Kubo is a big fan of the Troll Science comics. Such a big fan he uses this in his own manga since forever.
Captain Mayhem
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Sweden774 Posts
September 12 2013 12:40 GMT
#7538
Ice and vacuum would be a rather good way to summarize this entire manga.
Gravity is just a theory anyway.
Boonbag
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
France3318 Posts
September 12 2013 12:55 GMT
#7539
On September 12 2013 21:40 Captain Mayhem wrote:
Ice and vacuum would be a rather good way to summarize this entire manga.


a song of ice and vaccum
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24422 Posts
September 12 2013 13:01 GMT
#7540
On September 12 2013 21:55 Boonbag wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 12 2013 21:40 Captain Mayhem wrote:
Ice and vacuum would be a rather good way to summarize this entire manga.


a song of ice and vaccum


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