EPTOn September 11 2013 06:00 flamewheel wrote:
i miss yoruichi
i miss yoruichi
oh man, me too. what has she been doing?
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MoonPieMat
United States96 Posts
oh man, me too. what has she been doing? | ||
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Lysteria
France2280 Posts
On September 11 2013 07:32 sumsaR wrote: I seriously ROFL'd and facepalmed during the "vacuum ice" explaination. What the fuck Kubo? How about atleast making it a LITTLE plausible by actually applying physics correctly. Geez. This is chapter 548 and you think Kubo cares one bit about physics? Come on, one chapter ago, we had an entire city hidden in the shadows of another entire city and no one said a thing. | ||
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ProV1
United States980 Posts
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Zane
Romania3916 Posts
On September 11 2013 09:56 ProV1 wrote: I'm pretty sure in this arc, kubo said that he would show Hitsuguya's perfect bankai. I'm still waiting for it. It's gonna be an uber ice dragonx10 4 wings instead of 2? | ||
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Zooper31
United States5711 Posts
On September 11 2013 09:01 MoonPieMat wrote: oh man, me too. what has she been doing? Busy being a cat and shit and sleeping all day. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 11 2013 06:15 chipmonklord17 wrote: I don't think that either of those panels actually counter what was said. It was two shikai of captain and lieutenant class that was as strong as the bankai. Hitsuguya said that the only difference is the volume of ice, which has pretty much always been the case anyways. This is, like MaZza[KIS] said, a fairly well explained power up mini-captain is far stronger then big bood lietanant chick by like a lot if bankai increases your power 5 times (which if anything is an understatement if you compare shikais to bankais) then big boob chick would have to be 5 times stronger thenmini-captain in order for him + her to be comparable to his Bankai its conceivable that the only difference between his Shikai and Bankai is his Bankai can create 5 times as much ice at one time, but then mini-captain has literally the lamest and most useless bankai ever and its amazing he ever bothers to use it considering that he can only use it for such a short time and constantly drains him if he can still attack and defend with the same strength.. why bankai? Come on, one chapter ago, we had an entire city hidden in the shadows of another entire city and no one said a thing. but that was done with Magic, mini-captain is using SCIENCE I'm pretty sure in this arc, kubo said that he would show Hitsuguya's perfect bankai. I'm still waiting for it. It's gonna be an uber ice dragonx10 i wonder which captain is going to ahve to fight it | ||
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sumsaR
Sweden1812 Posts
On September 11 2013 09:44 Lysteria wrote: This is chapter 548 and you think Kubo cares one bit about physics? Come on, one chapter ago, we had an entire city hidden in the shadows of another entire city and no one said a thing. But that was pretty much unexplained "magic" not demanding any particular hard suspension of disbelief to accept. But when you explain how something works in minute detail and it's just not plausible ("magic" doesn't apply in this case) any suspension of disbelief is not possible. Totally different. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On September 11 2013 17:28 sumsaR wrote: But that was pretty much unexplained "magic" not demanding any particular hard suspension of disbelief to accept. But when you explain how something works in minute detail and it's just not plausible ("magic" doesn't apply in this case) any suspension of disbelief is not possible. Totally different. Something like, you can ask people to accept the impossible, but not the improbable. Similar concept at least. | ||
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igotmyown
United States4291 Posts
On September 11 2013 06:15 chipmonklord17 wrote: I don't think that either of those panels actually counter what was said. It was two shikai of captain and lieutenant class that was as strong as the bankai. Hitsuguya said that the only difference is the volume of ice, which has pretty much always been the case anyways. This is, like MaZza[KIS] said, a fairly well explained power up i'm going to do something silly and bring logic into the bleach world, but 2 shikai = bankai doesn't work if you believe the 5 to 10 power scale. lieutenant shikai <<< captain shikai (basically shown in every large scale fight that involves both, ~captain ichigo beats 3 or 4 lieutenants easily) 2 captain shikai < 5 to 10 captain shikai = bankai Now you could argue that achieving bankai makes you 5 to 10 times more powerful than before, and that also scales your non-bankai (see ichigo beating on lieutenants again, barehanded captains beating up people). But less logically, imagine what twice as powerful means. If two ichigos/captains/whatever shot their shikai energy blast together, would it overwhelm a bankai energy blast. The way bleach works, with lesser powers tickling opponents while greater powers blow them away, that doesn't make sense. Otherwise aizen would be running from a bunch of captains if he's dodging the captain commander. | ||
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Mantaza
Germany87 Posts
edit: im dumb and just found it xD | ||
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b3n3tt3
595 Posts
On September 11 2013 21:29 igotmyown wrote: i'm going to do something silly and bring logic into the bleach world, but 2 shikai = bankai doesn't work if you believe the 5 to 10 power scale. lieutenant shikai <<< captain shikai (basically shown in every large scale fight that involves both, ~captain ichigo beats 3 or 4 lieutenants easily) 2 captain shikai < 5 to 10 captain shikai = bankai Now you could argue that achieving bankai makes you 5 to 10 times more powerful than before, and that also scales your non-bankai (see ichigo beating on lieutenants again, barehanded captains beating up people). But less logically, imagine what twice as powerful means. If two ichigos/captains/whatever shot their shikai energy blast together, would it overwhelm a bankai energy blast. The way bleach works, with lesser powers tickling opponents while greater powers blow them away, that doesn't make sense. Otherwise aizen would be running from a bunch of captains if he's dodging the captain commander. what i previously said: obviously this chapter stated that captain shikai plus leituenant shikai works effectively against "above-captain level" sternritter quincys. that of which is already retarded. or maybe not since bassB is still alive, and hitsugaya's about to get rolled big time since the timing for "lol im actually stronger here is my true form" moment is about near. Maybe kubo is just trolling and sternritters are actually shit without their bankai grabbing, as evident with CC losing because he got confident. Either way the alphabet sterritters are gonna be weak as fuck in the future chapters regardless of power level logic since this is bleach | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 11 2013 23:15 b3n3tt3 wrote: what i previously said: obviously this chapter stated that captain shikai plus leituenant shikai works effectively against "above-captain level" sternritter quincys. that of which is already retarded. or maybe not since bassB is still alive, and hitsugaya's about to get rolled big time since the timing for "lol im actually stronger here is my true form" moment is about near. Maybe kubo is just trolling and sternritters are actually shit without their bankai grabbing, as evident with CC losing because he got confident. Either way the alphabet sterritters are gonna be weak as fuck in the future chapters regardless of power level logic since this is bleach steinritters havent even used there holy form yet so ya they actually are stronger | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
I don´t care if his ice-attack didn´t make any sense. | ||
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Confuse
2238 Posts
On September 11 2013 09:56 ProV1 wrote: I'm pretty sure in this arc, kubo said that he would show Hitsuguya's perfect bankai. I'm still waiting for it. It's gonna be an uber ice dragonx10 well if we look at what xmen did comparing ice man to fire man: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyro_(comics)#Powers_and_abilities http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iceman_(comics)#Powers_and_abilities and given that the fire dude in bleach is genryusai... uh, maybe we can assume ice will be insane? thats the hope i guess. | ||
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MaZza[KIS]
Australia2110 Posts
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
Enough said. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
I think there is a plausible explanation for what hyorinmaru and haineko are doing... does anyone know enough about haineko to know if it can convert back to sand without maintaning it's physical properties? i dont know what you mean exactly do you mean does it have to return to the hilt? Multiple empty layers. Enough said. taht shouldnt matter, if anything having layers of vaccuum in the ice would only ahve it melt faster since once you break through one layer air rushs in to fill the vacuum and pulls the fire in with it | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
generalizations are not absolute. 11th captain no shikai or bankai. | ||
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Forikorder
Canada8840 Posts
On September 12 2013 12:15 wei2coolman wrote: generalizations are not absolute. 11th captain no shikai or bankai. he does have Shikai his sword is so badass it was like "F you man imma be Shikai wether you like it or not BEECH" and he now has Bankai which will probably be disgustingly OP | ||
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ZenithM
France15952 Posts
On September 12 2013 12:08 Forikorder wrote: i dont know what you mean exactly do you mean does it have to return to the hilt? taht shouldnt matter, if anything having layers of vaccuum in the ice would only ahve it melt faster since once you break through one layer air rushs in to fill the vacuum and pulls the fire in with it No but they are multiple, dude. | ||
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