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Aerisky
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States12129 Posts
April 04 2013 03:54 GMT
#6781
Oh I just realized that the captain is isshin lol, for some reason kept thinking it was shunsui :S
Jim while Johnny had had had had had had had; had had had had the better effect on the teacher.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
April 04 2013 03:59 GMT
#6782
On April 04 2013 11:00 MugenXBanksy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 07:01 Dosey wrote:
New facts that came to light this chapter:

-Isshin is actually a Uchiha and can use fire style jutsu

-If you are cut ONCE by invisible dudes with swords, you can't use bankai

-The real reason why Kenpachi never uses bankai is because he's always cut up and would die under his own pressure

-Ichigo's Mom can kill Hollow Ichigo v1.0 but can't kill a hollow that Ichigo managed to kill without even shikai

-Bulletpoints of the ridiculousness of this chapter further outlines the ridiculousness




Woah woah woah back the fuck up...

I thought the Grand Fischer was still kicking around cause it showed him over in some sewer or some shit afterward being all emo and mad and shit getting fixed up and was never really seen after yelling "I'LL GET YOU BRO I'M MAD BRO"that at the end of chapter 25 or have I just forgotten after like a billion years of plotholes, kuboisms, and the giant mind fucks of the last like 100+ chapters at the slow paces and the whole pace of this arc and the fullbring arc.

IIRC, we saw Grand Fisher back during the Arrancar arc transformed by Aizen, and Isshin killed him. He bragged about having a sword larger than Ichigo's.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 04 2013 04:21 GMT
#6783
On April 04 2013 05:43 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 04:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:06 andrewlt wrote:
Next retcon would be how Ichigo's mother died to that weak hollow near the start of the series.

Maybe she was left with no abilities, cuz of that fight?
Or used that glove at one time, and left w/ no abilities.

Or she no longer carried a Quincy charm/amulet thing with her, having left the whole thing behind.

This does potentially explain why Ichigo's hollowfication happened the way it did, as opposed to the assumption that he was just so powerful that a mask formed first.

even if she didnt have an amulet and couldnt form a bow she's still a powerful enough Quincy to blow Grand Fisher up with a spell or jsut grab Ichigo and run away

also if shes powerfulk enough to kill that Hollow so easily why would grand fisher pick a fight with her? hed have known she was uber dangerous
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
April 04 2013 04:27 GMT
#6784
On April 04 2013 13:21 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 05:43 aksfjh wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:06 andrewlt wrote:
Next retcon would be how Ichigo's mother died to that weak hollow near the start of the series.

Maybe she was left with no abilities, cuz of that fight?
Or used that glove at one time, and left w/ no abilities.

Or she no longer carried a Quincy charm/amulet thing with her, having left the whole thing behind.

This does potentially explain why Ichigo's hollowfication happened the way it did, as opposed to the assumption that he was just so powerful that a mask formed first.

even if she didnt have an amulet and couldnt form a bow she's still a powerful enough Quincy to blow Grand Fisher up with a spell or jsut grab Ichigo and run away

also if shes powerfulk enough to kill that Hollow so easily why would grand fisher pick a fight with her? hed have known she was uber dangerous

Can Quincies cast other spells? I guess they can do the movement thing, but what about attacks?
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 04:29:59
April 04 2013 04:29 GMT
#6785
On April 04 2013 13:27 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 13:21 Forikorder wrote:
On April 04 2013 05:43 aksfjh wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:06 andrewlt wrote:
Next retcon would be how Ichigo's mother died to that weak hollow near the start of the series.

Maybe she was left with no abilities, cuz of that fight?
Or used that glove at one time, and left w/ no abilities.

Or she no longer carried a Quincy charm/amulet thing with her, having left the whole thing behind.

This does potentially explain why Ichigo's hollowfication happened the way it did, as opposed to the assumption that he was just so powerful that a mask formed first.

even if she didnt have an amulet and couldnt form a bow she's still a powerful enough Quincy to blow Grand Fisher up with a spell or jsut grab Ichigo and run away

also if shes powerfulk enough to kill that Hollow so easily why would grand fisher pick a fight with her? hed have known she was uber dangerous

Can Quincies cast other spells? I guess they can do the movement thing, but what about attacks?


both Uryu and fake-bach have used spells other then there bow

like Uryu had that star nuke thing he used on the espada and he had those capsules that had pre-cast spells and i think Bach blasted Yama with one attack spell and he had the special barrier thing
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
April 04 2013 04:30 GMT
#6786
My theory is Azien and crew killed Ichigo's mother and just framed the Grand Fisher, I mean they can be invisible, no way for Ichigo to notice them as they kill his mom.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
April 04 2013 04:34 GMT
#6787
On April 04 2013 13:30 NotSorry wrote:
My theory is Azien and crew killed Ichigo's mother and just framed the Grand Fisher, I mean they can be invisible, no way for Ichigo to notice them as they kill his mom.

Yeah bro, they can just invisi-slash her once and prevent her from going Quincy-Bankai. Then it's curtains.
Cocoba
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada352 Posts
April 04 2013 04:38 GMT
#6788
On April 04 2013 03:48 lisward wrote:
Why are there so many dead people alive, my brain is hurting so much


You do realize this is all a flashback right? Context is that Isshin is explaining to Ichigo the reasons for why he is capable of the abilities that he possesses. This is all in order for Ichigo to get an Asauchi (Don't really remember the name exactly, but this is coming to the top of my mind. I'm referring to the soul/body a Zanpakto needs in order to exist) and to reclaim Zangetsu.
:D
Mithhaike
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Singapore2759 Posts
April 04 2013 04:40 GMT
#6789
On March 27 2013 23:04 SkelA wrote:
So the hollow that is fighting Ishin gonna rape Ichigo mother and Ishin is in fact Ichigo stepdad !

This is the only logical conclusion i can think off


My exact thoughts.Then i remember something along the lines of the 4 Royal Shinigami family that have huge reiatsu that apparently Ichigo belongs to.

Then i went confused mode and stop trying to think
Mew Mew Pew Pew
MugenXBanksy
Profile Joined April 2011
United States479 Posts
April 04 2013 04:49 GMT
#6790
On April 04 2013 12:59 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 11:00 MugenXBanksy wrote:
On April 04 2013 07:01 Dosey wrote:
New facts that came to light this chapter:

-Isshin is actually a Uchiha and can use fire style jutsu

-If you are cut ONCE by invisible dudes with swords, you can't use bankai

-The real reason why Kenpachi never uses bankai is because he's always cut up and would die under his own pressure

-Ichigo's Mom can kill Hollow Ichigo v1.0 but can't kill a hollow that Ichigo managed to kill without even shikai

-Bulletpoints of the ridiculousness of this chapter further outlines the ridiculousness




Woah woah woah back the fuck up...

I thought the Grand Fischer was still kicking around cause it showed him over in some sewer or some shit afterward being all emo and mad and shit getting fixed up and was never really seen after yelling "I'LL GET YOU BRO I'M MAD BRO"that at the end of chapter 25 or have I just forgotten after like a billion years of plotholes, kuboisms, and the giant mind fucks of the last like 100+ chapters at the slow paces and the whole pace of this arc and the fullbring arc.


IIRC, we saw Grand Fisher back during the Arrancar arc transformed by Aizen, and Isshin killed him. He bragged about having a sword larger than Ichigo's.


Man that was like forever ago how am I supposed to remember that it was like what 4 pages 100+ chapters ago cause I remember that part being very anticlimactic now that you dusted my memory alittle bit.
we all hope to be like whitera one day
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
April 04 2013 05:23 GMT
#6791
On April 04 2013 13:29 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 13:27 aksfjh wrote:
On April 04 2013 13:21 Forikorder wrote:
On April 04 2013 05:43 aksfjh wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:06 andrewlt wrote:
Next retcon would be how Ichigo's mother died to that weak hollow near the start of the series.

Maybe she was left with no abilities, cuz of that fight?
Or used that glove at one time, and left w/ no abilities.

Or she no longer carried a Quincy charm/amulet thing with her, having left the whole thing behind.

This does potentially explain why Ichigo's hollowfication happened the way it did, as opposed to the assumption that he was just so powerful that a mask formed first.

even if she didnt have an amulet and couldnt form a bow she's still a powerful enough Quincy to blow Grand Fisher up with a spell or jsut grab Ichigo and run away

also if shes powerfulk enough to kill that Hollow so easily why would grand fisher pick a fight with her? hed have known she was uber dangerous

Can Quincies cast other spells? I guess they can do the movement thing, but what about attacks?


both Uryu and fake-bach have used spells other then there bow

like Uryu had that star nuke thing he used on the espada and he had those capsules that had pre-cast spells and i think Bach blasted Yama with one attack spell and he had the special barrier thing

I thought the capsules just had stored reiatsu, and it still required Quincy artifacts to channel the power (the sword/arrow things). I don't know about Bach though. Can anybody else confirm that?
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 04 2013 05:37 GMT
#6792
On April 04 2013 14:23 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 13:29 Forikorder wrote:
On April 04 2013 13:27 aksfjh wrote:
On April 04 2013 13:21 Forikorder wrote:
On April 04 2013 05:43 aksfjh wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:06 andrewlt wrote:
Next retcon would be how Ichigo's mother died to that weak hollow near the start of the series.

Maybe she was left with no abilities, cuz of that fight?
Or used that glove at one time, and left w/ no abilities.

Or she no longer carried a Quincy charm/amulet thing with her, having left the whole thing behind.

This does potentially explain why Ichigo's hollowfication happened the way it did, as opposed to the assumption that he was just so powerful that a mask formed first.

even if she didnt have an amulet and couldnt form a bow she's still a powerful enough Quincy to blow Grand Fisher up with a spell or jsut grab Ichigo and run away

also if shes powerfulk enough to kill that Hollow so easily why would grand fisher pick a fight with her? hed have known she was uber dangerous

Can Quincies cast other spells? I guess they can do the movement thing, but what about attacks?


both Uryu and fake-bach have used spells other then there bow

like Uryu had that star nuke thing he used on the espada and he had those capsules that had pre-cast spells and i think Bach blasted Yama with one attack spell and he had the special barrier thing

I thought the capsules just had stored reiatsu, and it still required Quincy artifacts to channel the power (the sword/arrow things). I don't know about Bach though. Can anybody else confirm that?

does it really matter though? she should ahve been able to tell that a hollow was 10 feet away and avoid it so the only possible answer is that she somehow loses her power
shark.
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
593 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-04 11:53:09
April 04 2013 10:06 GMT
#6793
On April 04 2013 14:37 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2013 14:23 aksfjh wrote:
On April 04 2013 13:29 Forikorder wrote:
On April 04 2013 13:27 aksfjh wrote:
On April 04 2013 13:21 Forikorder wrote:
On April 04 2013 05:43 aksfjh wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:18 wei2coolman wrote:
On April 04 2013 04:06 andrewlt wrote:
Next retcon would be how Ichigo's mother died to that weak hollow near the start of the series.

Maybe she was left with no abilities, cuz of that fight?
Or used that glove at one time, and left w/ no abilities.

Or she no longer carried a Quincy charm/amulet thing with her, having left the whole thing behind.

This does potentially explain why Ichigo's hollowfication happened the way it did, as opposed to the assumption that he was just so powerful that a mask formed first.

even if she didnt have an amulet and couldnt form a bow she's still a powerful enough Quincy to blow Grand Fisher up with a spell or jsut grab Ichigo and run away

also if shes powerfulk enough to kill that Hollow so easily why would grand fisher pick a fight with her? hed have known she was uber dangerous

Can Quincies cast other spells? I guess they can do the movement thing, but what about attacks?


both Uryu and fake-bach have used spells other then there bow

like Uryu had that star nuke thing he used on the espada and he had those capsules that had pre-cast spells and i think Bach blasted Yama with one attack spell and he had the special barrier thing

I thought the capsules just had stored reiatsu, and it still required Quincy artifacts to channel the power (the sword/arrow things). I don't know about Bach though. Can anybody else confirm that?

does it really matter though? she should ahve been able to tell that a hollow was 10 feet away and avoid it so the only possible answer is that she somehow loses her power

Or maybe she had to sacrifice herself to save Ichigo from being killed, much like shanks losing his arm for luffy. Plus given that Isshin lost his powers it is not too much to expect Masaski to have lost hers.
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 05 2013 18:28 GMT
#6794
but Guyyysssssss. Kubo already explained the crazy Ichigo powers. Its because he spent so much time around the hogyukou. Oh wait, that was three retcons ago nevermind.

And I thought Grand Fisher lured people by using people they loved or w/e, so he used the little girl to get Ichigo's mom to drown herself or run over or w/e it was. And she couldn't tell it was a hollow because she was only hu-......
fuck
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 06 2013 03:39 GMT
#6795
On April 06 2013 03:28 FezTheCaliph wrote:
but Guyyysssssss. Kubo already explained the crazy Ichigo powers. Its because he spent so much time around the hogyukou. Oh wait, that was three retcons ago nevermind.

And I thought Grand Fisher lured people by using people they loved or w/e, so he used the little girl to get Ichigo's mom to drown herself or run over or w/e it was. And she couldn't tell it was a hollow because she was only hu-......
fuck


he uses loved ones as a shield, his lure thing looks like a normal girl but only people with spirit power can see it (which is why Ichis mom couldnt understand why Ichi was running to the sea since shes a normal human)

the idea is that he can find unsuspecting humans who dont understand the power they hold

you know what i dont understand though, if Ichigos dad is an uber powerful captain, and his mom is an uber powerful quincy... were his sisters adobted or why are they so powerless?
FezTheCaliph
Profile Joined February 2010
United States492 Posts
April 07 2013 08:12 GMT
#6796
On April 06 2013 12:39 Forikorder wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 03:28 FezTheCaliph wrote:
but Guyyysssssss. Kubo already explained the crazy Ichigo powers. Its because he spent so much time around the hogyukou. Oh wait, that was three retcons ago nevermind.

And I thought Grand Fisher lured people by using people they loved or w/e, so he used the little girl to get Ichigo's mom to drown herself or run over or w/e it was. And she couldn't tell it was a hollow because she was only hu-......
fuck


he uses loved ones as a shield, his lure thing looks like a normal girl but only people with spirit power can see it (which is why Ichis mom couldnt understand why Ichi was running to the sea since shes a normal human)

the idea is that he can find unsuspecting humans who dont understand the power they hold

you know what i dont understand though, if Ichigos dad is an uber powerful captain, and his mom is an uber powerful quincy... were his sisters adobted or why are they so powerless?


Well there are some brief pages that show the black haired sister working with Urahara , most likely anti Hollow stuff. Which she keeps hidden from Ichigo and Isshin. And I'm not sure if its canon but the little fillers/shorts of a bunch of the kids being the "Karakura Rangers"

So they have powers, they just don't do much with them.
It is better to be on hand with ten men then absent with ten thousand
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 11:44:32
April 07 2013 11:41 GMT
#6797
Karin is capable of killing hollows in the filler episodes... I wouldn't call that powerless.

Yuzu's spiritual power still hasn't awakened... but I'm sure it's only a matter if time.

Also:

Fake Karakura Town arc
When Ichigo confronts Aizen once again, he closes his eyes and remarks that Karin and Yuzu are all right at their house, presumably sensing their Reiatsu.[64]

Reference 64: Bleach manga; Chapter 417, page 5

On April 07 2013 17:12 FezTheCaliph wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 06 2013 12:39 Forikorder wrote:
On April 06 2013 03:28 FezTheCaliph wrote:
but Guyyysssssss. Kubo already explained the crazy Ichigo powers. Its because he spent so much time around the hogyukou. Oh wait, that was three retcons ago nevermind.

And I thought Grand Fisher lured people by using people they loved or w/e, so he used the little girl to get Ichigo's mom to drown herself or run over or w/e it was. And she couldn't tell it was a hollow because she was only hu-......
fuck


he uses loved ones as a shield, his lure thing looks like a normal girl but only people with spirit power can see it (which is why Ichis mom couldnt understand why Ichi was running to the sea since shes a normal human)

the idea is that he can find unsuspecting humans who dont understand the power they hold

you know what i dont understand though, if Ichigos dad is an uber powerful captain, and his mom is an uber powerful quincy... were his sisters adobted or why are they so powerless?


Well there are some brief pages that show the black haired sister working with Urahara , most likely anti Hollow stuff. Which she keeps hidden from Ichigo and Isshin. And I'm not sure if its canon but the little fillers/shorts of a bunch of the kids being the "Karakura Rangers"

So they have powers, they just don't do much with them.



She's not working with Urahara so much as she's buying anti-hollow stuff so her and her sister don't get attacked/are able to fight back when they are alone.
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
MaZza[KIS]
Profile Joined December 2005
Australia2110 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-07 11:44:48
April 07 2013 11:42 GMT
#6798
EDIT: Accidental doublepost
I really wanted a bigger opponent, like Nate Marquardt, or King Neptune, or Zeus, or Zeus and Fedor, or Fedor on Zeus's shoulders, and they can both punch but only Zeus can kick.
Forikorder
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada8840 Posts
April 07 2013 14:19 GMT
#6799
Fake Karakura Town arc
When Ichigo confronts Aizen once again, he closes his eyes and remarks that Karin and Yuzu are all right at their house, presumably sensing their Reiatsu.[64]


he can sense there souls not reiatsu just like how he was able to sense the parakeet kid
Dreamer.T
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3584 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 13:26:31
April 10 2013 13:26 GMT
#6800
Pretty interesting chapter, though not much happened. + Show Spoiler +
Urahara looking shady as ever
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