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On February 18 2013 08:39 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 07:31 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On February 17 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:On February 16 2013 22:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On February 15 2013 00:19 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 18:29 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 15:17 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 14:56 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 14:09 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote: So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. because its not 1 unohana (+ a tiny bit) captain its one Captain who can completely outclass Unohana so much that he had to hold back jsut to prolong there fight Unohana was getting owned by Zaraki before Zaraki started unconsciously holding back so assuming that Zaraki is no longer holding back at all, and adding in some growth on account of him being so much older hed easily be on the same level as the 0th division guys But you're assuming he was unlocked 100%. It's more likely that he was only unlocked to the level that allowed him to beat Unohana. He could have possibly gotten much stronger. Of course now we'll never know =P. judging by how he was talking at the end (just waking up from a dream) id say that hes completely reverted to how he was if Unohana thought he was still holding back shed continue the fight, im willing to bet whatever it was that stopped Zaraki from dieing wasnt Unohana ? She said it herself that she kept reviving/healing him during their fight. it doesnt make sense though that she can do it so seamlessly with Zaraki not noticing at all though :< Your logic is so twisted you just posted to someone else in the OP thread about how you shouldn't apply real-world logic to manga in speculation and here you are disputing an explicitly stated plot point... im not applying real world logic to bleach, it makes no sense that Zaraki can DIE then Unohana can heal him, stand him up, put his sword in his hand and then move back and him not realise at all that anything happened other then he blacked out for a second It makes no sense if you're using real-world logic. This is a manga where swords can talk and people can fly and something like "healing power" exists in the first place. Are you really in disbelief that something so simple could happen? Like, really? THAT'S where you pick your fight? it makes no sense that unohana can heal him in such a way hes not even aware he died and got healed there has to be some temporal something happening or Zaraki would ahve noticed You're nitpicking the stupidest point with no possible evidence for either side like you always do
Seriously, stop making shit up then saying stuff like "there has to be x" when you talk about it, especially when the author already explained it. Just change the way you phrase stuff and nobody will think you are a cocky 14 year old douchebag. I'm not telling you this because I don't like you (PS: I don't) but because even if I don't like someone I still want the best for them in life, and I want you to learn how to be less of a cocksteady douchebag before you grow up and it becomes permanent. I take it very seriously that we have to teach young people not to grow up to be douches because otherwise our whole society is going to look like grown up versions of you.
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On February 18 2013 09:21 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 08:39 Forikorder wrote:On February 18 2013 07:31 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On February 17 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:On February 16 2013 22:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On February 15 2013 00:19 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 18:29 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 15:17 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 14:56 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 14:09 Forikorder wrote: [quote] because its not 1 unohana (+ a tiny bit) captain its one Captain who can completely outclass Unohana so much that he had to hold back jsut to prolong there fight
Unohana was getting owned by Zaraki before Zaraki started unconsciously holding back so assuming that Zaraki is no longer holding back at all, and adding in some growth on account of him being so much older hed easily be on the same level as the 0th division guys But you're assuming he was unlocked 100%. It's more likely that he was only unlocked to the level that allowed him to beat Unohana. He could have possibly gotten much stronger. Of course now we'll never know =P. judging by how he was talking at the end (just waking up from a dream) id say that hes completely reverted to how he was if Unohana thought he was still holding back shed continue the fight, im willing to bet whatever it was that stopped Zaraki from dieing wasnt Unohana ? She said it herself that she kept reviving/healing him during their fight. it doesnt make sense though that she can do it so seamlessly with Zaraki not noticing at all though :< Your logic is so twisted you just posted to someone else in the OP thread about how you shouldn't apply real-world logic to manga in speculation and here you are disputing an explicitly stated plot point... im not applying real world logic to bleach, it makes no sense that Zaraki can DIE then Unohana can heal him, stand him up, put his sword in his hand and then move back and him not realise at all that anything happened other then he blacked out for a second It makes no sense if you're using real-world logic. This is a manga where swords can talk and people can fly and something like "healing power" exists in the first place. Are you really in disbelief that something so simple could happen? Like, really? THAT'S where you pick your fight? it makes no sense that unohana can heal him in such a way hes not even aware he died and got healed there has to be some temporal something happening or Zaraki would ahve noticed You're nitpicking the stupidest point with no possible evidence for either side like you always do Seriously, stop making shit up then saying stuff like "there has to be x" when you talk about it, especially when the author already explained it. Just change the way you phrase stuff and nobody will think you are a cocky 14 year old douchebag. I'm not telling you this because I don't like you (PS: I don't) but because even if I don't like someone I still want the best for them in life, and I want you to learn how to be less of a cocksteady douchebag before you grow up and it becomes permanent. I take it very seriously that we have to teach young people not to grow up to be douches because otherwise our whole society is going to look like grown up versions of you. so basically i should elarn my lesson now before i turn into you
got it
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On February 18 2013 03:15 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 03:11 SamsungStar wrote:On February 18 2013 02:52 NPF wrote:On February 17 2013 19:22 DauBo wrote: So when kenpachi activates Shikai and then Bankai will he officially be the strongest shinigami? o.o
Kenpachi shikai is always on just like ichigo. That's why his sword is all wavy ? I thought it was wavy because he had so much power he couldn't even properly form a shikai. It's like a fked up sword blade rather than anything special. not all shikais are special jsut look at fatass's or CCs lietanant guy I thought his was just a rusty sword to show he has no attachment to his sword or anything. thats why it looks like a regular dull blade
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On February 18 2013 11:23 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 03:15 Forikorder wrote:On February 18 2013 03:11 SamsungStar wrote:On February 18 2013 02:52 NPF wrote:On February 17 2013 19:22 DauBo wrote: So when kenpachi activates Shikai and then Bankai will he officially be the strongest shinigami? o.o
Kenpachi shikai is always on just like ichigo. That's why his sword is all wavy ? I thought it was wavy because he had so much power he couldn't even properly form a shikai. It's like a fked up sword blade rather than anything special. not all shikais are special jsut look at fatass's or CCs lietanant guy I thought his was just a rusty sword to show he has no attachment to his sword or anything. thats why it looks like a regular dull blade i dont think its supposed to be rusty
i think its supposed to be like serrated and shit you know a jagged edge for more rippin adn the tearing
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Zaraki's finally gets a name for his sword, as expected. But Kubo... why the fuck a cliffhanger?! What's your f**** problem?! AND WHO WAS THE SWORD? xD
I love the Renji and Ichigo plot twist. Seems like soon enough we will know who Ichigo really is.
Good chap.
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no shit, isn't it already a fact his mom is a quincy?
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Why is Ichigo back to being wimp again. Seriously what the fuck. It feels like chapter 50 or whatever. Story is not moving forward at all. Zaraki is most boring character in the cast. Why won't Kubo make use of interesting characters like Yoruichi and the hat guy, Urahara AND Ichigo's dad.
I just can't fathom why Kubo is so bad... He could write few dozens of amazing chapters but he refuses to use good characters, instead creating new, awfully bad cast (zero division) and returning to boring old characters like Zaraki.
I just feel robbed. It's like ending of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance... SO BAD.
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It's probably announcement for 58th volume to hit the shelves soon.
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On February 20 2013 20:26 jcvf wrote:Anyone knows how to read Jap? If so, what does the characters on the upper right hand of the cover say? (the one with the CC's face) http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/527/3 will be released 4th march
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On February 20 2013 20:26 jcvf wrote:Anyone knows how to read Jap? If so, what does the characters on the upper right hand of the cover say? (the one with the CC's face) http://www.mangareader.net/bleach/527/3
It's probably just a Bleach manga volume release ad. (new chapters are released every week in Jump magazine then after some chapters they are rereleased in a separete Bleach only volume)
I think that soon it will be explained that Zangetsu is somehow connected with Ichigo's dad (and that's why they both can use Getsuga) Basically Ichigo gotta re-do all the training and the 'proper' steps he skipped in earlier arcs.
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oooooooooooooh sh*******************t !!!!! Zaraki with Bankai!! :D i started to hate Bleach but now it looks like the boring stuff gonna be over soon and we gonna get a Zaraki that rapes everyone ^^ .. hope this stupid "training" thing is over soon and the real battle begins
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On February 20 2013 20:46 imnestle wrote: oooooooooooooh sh*******************t !!!!! Zaraki with Bankai!! :D i started to hate Bleach but now it looks like the boring stuff gonna be over soon and we gonna get a Zaraki that rapes everyone ^^ .. hope this stupid "training" thing is over soon and the real battle begins
I think that you are getting slightly too excited. Zaraki only learned the name of his zanpatkou, it's still only shikai, learning the name only boost the strength of his abilities.
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Shikai for Zaraki. Fucking nice.
I love that Ichigo got kicked out. It's not that he's weak or a wimp (hell, he did more to Juha than Yamamoto, and is the only one other than Yama and Zaraki that at least incapacited or killed some Stern Ritters), it's that he doesn't get the point. The "return to roots" part makes me think Ichigo's gonna talk with his dad, not only because of the Zanpakuto, but also about his mother (remember what Juha said about her?). Thinking hopefully, maybe he's going to train with both Isshin and Ryuuken (the latter because of his Quincy heritage and to develop his powers). I doubt he'd ask Uryuu because of the shitstorm that could ensue (and also because I think he's in cahoots with the Vanderreich, hence why he didn't come to Huece Mundo, not because "Quincy exist to kill hollows, not save them", that's just bullshit).
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Theory: Yachiru Kusajishi (small one) is Zaraki's zanpakutou. Discuss.
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On February 20 2013 21:31 Dragnmn wrote: Theory: Yachiru Kusajishi (small one) is Zaraki's zanpakutou. Discuss.
No. We already had that with Starrk. Also zanpaktou with a zanpaktou? Yachiru has her own sword (every vice-captain has to have shikai as well). And if it was Yachiru Zaraki would easily recognize the voice.
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Every captain tends to have Bankai, Zaraki got in with pure force, and a captain can appoint his own lieutenants. Maybe they can ignore the rules if they feel like it. It has never been stated that she has a zanpaktou, although it's easily assumed she does. I agree with the point about her sword though.
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I like to think that Yachiru is actually quite powerful. She was clearly named after Unohana and I wouldn't be surprised if she lived up to that name.
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"Hello Zaraki, I'm your Sword, my name is..."
Omg omg omg here it comes *nerd chills everywhere*
"TROLOLOLOL ICHIGO U TOO BAD! BEGONE SON!!!"
End Chapter
Fuck you Kubo.
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