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On February 15 2013 01:02 Zooper31 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 00:19 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 18:29 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 15:17 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 14:56 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 14:09 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. because its not 1 unohana (+ a tiny bit) captain its one Captain who can completely outclass Unohana so much that he had to hold back jsut to prolong there fight Unohana was getting owned by Zaraki before Zaraki started unconsciously holding back so assuming that Zaraki is no longer holding back at all, and adding in some growth on account of him being so much older hed easily be on the same level as the 0th division guys But you're assuming he was unlocked 100%. It's more likely that he was only unlocked to the level that allowed him to beat Unohana. He could have possibly gotten much stronger. Of course now we'll never know =P. judging by how he was talking at the end (just waking up from a dream) id say that hes completely reverted to how he was if Unohana thought he was still holding back shed continue the fight, im willing to bet whatever it was that stopped Zaraki from dieing wasnt Unohana ? She said it herself that she kept reviving/healing him during their fight. it doesnt make sense though that she can do it so seamlessly with Zaraki not noticing at all though :< He did notice though. During the fight he dropped his sword after being stabbed, next scene he's talking about wondering what happened because now he's holding his sword magically and he's not hurt. Then again he says hes blacking out and then he's magically fully aware again and fighting with all he has. And then we don't even know what her bankai did and why the panels turned to skeletons for no reason and then everything was back to normal.
exactly nothing was ever explained at all
if she can continuily kill Zaraki then bring him back to life why was healing Byakuya so outside her ability?
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On February 15 2013 01:13 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 01:02 Zooper31 wrote:On February 15 2013 00:19 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 18:29 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 15:17 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 14:56 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 14:09 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. because its not 1 unohana (+ a tiny bit) captain its one Captain who can completely outclass Unohana so much that he had to hold back jsut to prolong there fight Unohana was getting owned by Zaraki before Zaraki started unconsciously holding back so assuming that Zaraki is no longer holding back at all, and adding in some growth on account of him being so much older hed easily be on the same level as the 0th division guys But you're assuming he was unlocked 100%. It's more likely that he was only unlocked to the level that allowed him to beat Unohana. He could have possibly gotten much stronger. Of course now we'll never know =P. judging by how he was talking at the end (just waking up from a dream) id say that hes completely reverted to how he was if Unohana thought he was still holding back shed continue the fight, im willing to bet whatever it was that stopped Zaraki from dieing wasnt Unohana ? She said it herself that she kept reviving/healing him during their fight. it doesnt make sense though that she can do it so seamlessly with Zaraki not noticing at all though :< He did notice though. During the fight he dropped his sword after being stabbed, next scene he's talking about wondering what happened because now he's holding his sword magically and he's not hurt. Then again he says hes blacking out and then he's magically fully aware again and fighting with all he has. And then we don't even know what her bankai did and why the panels turned to skeletons for no reason and then everything was back to normal. exactly nothing was ever explained at all if she can continuily kill Zaraki then bring him back to life why was healing Byakuya so outside her ability?
No clue majority of their fight was never explained including her bankai.
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all the waiting to see what unohana was capable off was just wasted in these past few chapters. unohana yachiru? cool. then suddenly admitting she's weaker than zaraki. then wasted bankai. now she could be dead. wtf kubo.
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On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power.
Zaraki has only scratched the sufrace of his power. He hasn't even gotten his shikai (not sure on exact spelling) or bankai yet. For Unohana, one of the fiercest warriors that has ever existed in the SS to be killed so easily by Zaraki means that Zaraki is some next level shit, something the SS has probably never come across before.
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On February 15 2013 10:04 Cocoba wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. Zaraki has only scratched the sufrace of his power. He hasn't even gotten his shikai (not sure on exact spelling) or bankai yet. For Unohana, one of the fiercest warriors that has ever existed in the SS to be killed so easily by Zaraki means that Zaraki is some next level shit, something the SS has probably never come across before.
his sword is perma shikai
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On February 15 2013 14:56 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 10:04 Cocoba wrote:On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. Zaraki has only scratched the sufrace of his power. He hasn't even gotten his shikai (not sure on exact spelling) or bankai yet. For Unohana, one of the fiercest warriors that has ever existed in the SS to be killed so easily by Zaraki means that Zaraki is some next level shit, something the SS has probably never come across before. his sword is perma shikai
BUT WHO IS SWORD?!
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On February 15 2013 15:35 OskO wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 14:56 Forikorder wrote:On February 15 2013 10:04 Cocoba wrote:On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. Zaraki has only scratched the sufrace of his power. He hasn't even gotten his shikai (not sure on exact spelling) or bankai yet. For Unohana, one of the fiercest warriors that has ever existed in the SS to be killed so easily by Zaraki means that Zaraki is some next level shit, something the SS has probably never come across before. his sword is perma shikai BUT WHO IS SWORD?!
his sword is too cool for name
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i duno why they need zaraki to go through these weird training phases. First he does the double hand sword swing(lulz) and now this shit where he just goes near death and gets revived. where the hell is his bankai or rather some elaborate training for him to actually learn his shikai's name.
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On February 15 2013 15:38 recklessfire wrote:
i duno why they need zaraki to go through these weird training phases. First he does the double hand sword swing(lulz) and now this shit where he just goes near death and gets revived. where the hell is his bankai or rather some elaborate training for him to actually learn his shikai's name.
So later we learn that Ichigo is actually somehow related to Zaraki's bloodline becoming the legendary humanshinigamihollowvizardsoulbringerquincyzaraki able to instafrag the bad guy.
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did we actually ever figure out about the foot?
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On February 16 2013 02:50 flamewheel wrote:
did we actually ever figure out about the foot?
wat fot?
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the foot that 'killed' strawhat dude
we heard his voice and we know he knows Ichigo, also that they're probably not on the best of terms
so it's grimmjaw
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These past few chapters could have been so much better .. such a pity. Bleach is so bad, can't even make chapters about some of its most intriguing characters interesting.
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On February 15 2013 14:56 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 10:04 Cocoba wrote:On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. Zaraki has only scratched the sufrace of his power. He hasn't even gotten his shikai (not sure on exact spelling) or bankai yet. For Unohana, one of the fiercest warriors that has ever existed in the SS to be killed so easily by Zaraki means that Zaraki is some next level shit, something the SS has probably never come across before. his sword is perma shikai
Ahh so like Ichigo's zanpakuto. Had no idea, thanks for enlightening me 
Always wondered why the hilt was so much different from that of a standard one.
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Zarachi OP. watching the anime and just saw the first fight between him and ichigo.
Also - DAFUQ talking cat (cant spell asian names omg Kunoichi?) is a fucking naked chick. (well, a chick, but the naked scene after first transformation made me chuckle a bit) and she was a captain of the stealth squad and seems completely OP - on toe to toe with rukia's brother.
<Insert dis gon b good meme>
Ima enjoy this :D
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let's see for how long he enjoys it -popcorn.gif-
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Yeah, foot and sword were most likely Grimmjaw.
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On February 15 2013 00:19 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 14 2013 18:29 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 15:17 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 14:56 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 14:09 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. because its not 1 unohana (+ a tiny bit) captain its one Captain who can completely outclass Unohana so much that he had to hold back jsut to prolong there fight Unohana was getting owned by Zaraki before Zaraki started unconsciously holding back so assuming that Zaraki is no longer holding back at all, and adding in some growth on account of him being so much older hed easily be on the same level as the 0th division guys But you're assuming he was unlocked 100%. It's more likely that he was only unlocked to the level that allowed him to beat Unohana. He could have possibly gotten much stronger. Of course now we'll never know =P. judging by how he was talking at the end (just waking up from a dream) id say that hes completely reverted to how he was if Unohana thought he was still holding back shed continue the fight, im willing to bet whatever it was that stopped Zaraki from dieing wasnt Unohana ? She said it herself that she kept reviving/healing him during their fight. it doesnt make sense though that she can do it so seamlessly with Zaraki not noticing at all though :<
Your logic is so twisted
you just posted to someone else in the OP thread about how you shouldn't apply real-world logic to manga in speculation and here you are disputing an explicitly stated plot point...
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so Kenpachi is a saijajin, didnt see that coming. Imagine if Unohana were in DBZ universe, we would have SSJ level 9000+
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This manga has been completely warped, it needs to end asap in order to preserve the goodness that was the first ~80 eps or so (or whenever it was before the bounto filler arc started).
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