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On February 16 2013 22:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 15 2013 00:19 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 18:29 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 15:17 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 14:56 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 14:09 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. because its not 1 unohana (+ a tiny bit) captain its one Captain who can completely outclass Unohana so much that he had to hold back jsut to prolong there fight Unohana was getting owned by Zaraki before Zaraki started unconsciously holding back so assuming that Zaraki is no longer holding back at all, and adding in some growth on account of him being so much older hed easily be on the same level as the 0th division guys But you're assuming he was unlocked 100%. It's more likely that he was only unlocked to the level that allowed him to beat Unohana. He could have possibly gotten much stronger. Of course now we'll never know =P. judging by how he was talking at the end (just waking up from a dream) id say that hes completely reverted to how he was if Unohana thought he was still holding back shed continue the fight, im willing to bet whatever it was that stopped Zaraki from dieing wasnt Unohana ? She said it herself that she kept reviving/healing him during their fight. it doesnt make sense though that she can do it so seamlessly with Zaraki not noticing at all though :< Your logic is so twisted you just posted to someone else in the OP thread about how you shouldn't apply real-world logic to manga in speculation and here you are disputing an explicitly stated plot point...
im not applying real world logic to bleach, it makes no sense that Zaraki can DIE then Unohana can heal him, stand him up, put his sword in his hand and then move back and him not realise at all that anything happened other then he blacked out for a second
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On February 16 2013 22:49 Topin wrote:
so Kenpachi is a saijajin, didnt see that coming. Imagine if Unohana were in DBZ universe, we would have SSJ level 9000+
You realize Goku was pitifully weak at "level" 9000+ compared to his super saiyan forms (which were over a million).
Edit: oops his first super saiyan form is listed at 150,000,000 on wiki, 13,500,000 on another site.
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On February 16 2013 23:28 cozzE wrote:
This manga has been completely warped, it needs to end asap in order to preserve the goodness that was the first ~80 eps or so (or whenever it was before the bounto filler arc started).
I presume your talking about the anime not the manga as you refer to episodes 
I really enjoyed the anime asides from the filler arcs. I thought they did a really good job with the main storyline involving Aizen. I do agree, when I was watching it, I'd skip entire filler seasons because they were just flat out terrible. I hope they bring back the anime for this last arc though because I just find it more enjoyable to watch Bleach than reading it as there is a lot of fighting going on and sometimes you just miss something's or its hard to picture what's really going on in fights.
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I have watched through the main arc (aizen) + Show Spoiler +Ichigo wears him out enough that they contain him and sentence him to thousands of years in prison, but ichigo is losing his soul reaper powers
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On February 17 2013 17:42 Prplppleatr wrote:I have watched through the main arc (aizen) + Show Spoiler +Ichigo wears him out enough that they contain him and sentence him to thousands of years in prison, but ichigo is losing his soul reaper powers ...is it worth going into the next one? Seems like it should of jsut ended there.
save.. yourself...
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On February 17 2013 17:44 arb wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 17:42 Prplppleatr wrote:I have watched through the main arc (aizen) + Show Spoiler +Ichigo wears him out enough that they contain him and sentence him to thousands of years in prison, but ichigo is losing his soul reaper powers ...is it worth going into the next one? Seems like it should of jsut ended there. save.. yourself...
I have watched up to the ending of the Aizen arc as well. Some of the things I read on here seem weird (like the recent thing everything is discussing with Kenpachi and the other captain) Seems crazy as fuck. Maybe it will all make sense if I actually read it :D
Been debating on going through the manga from the Aizen point on (watched some of the anime where he is meeting those guys at the executioners club but don't know if thats cannon or not).
Should I read the manga from the beginning even if I have watched the anime up to Aizen? Is it worth it?
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On February 17 2013 17:48 Slaughter wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 17:44 arb wrote:On February 17 2013 17:42 Prplppleatr wrote:I have watched through the main arc (aizen) + Show Spoiler +Ichigo wears him out enough that they contain him and sentence him to thousands of years in prison, but ichigo is losing his soul reaper powers ...is it worth going into the next one? Seems like it should of jsut ended there. save.. yourself... I have watched up to the ending of the Aizen arc as well. Some of the things I read on here seem weird (like the recent thing everything is discussing with Kenpachi and the other captain) Seems crazy as fuck. Maybe it will all make sense if I actually read it :D Been debating on going through the manga from the Aizen point on (watched some of the anime where he is meeting those guys at the executioners club but don't know if thats cannon or not). Should I read the manga from the beginning even if I have watched the anime up to Aizen? Is it worth it?
The best part of the manga is skipping the awful bount arc.
things progress faster but uh
+ Show Spoiler +no you shouldnt bother if youve seent he end of aizen, and no it wont make sense.
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Did she just used Bankai and nothing happened ? WTF ? And I'm pretty sure she won't die, Kenpachi will save her (but we won't know until later) in order to fight her again.
Bleach 
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So when kenpachi activates Shikai and then Bankai will he officially be the strongest shinigami? o.o
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On February 17 2013 18:33 Lylat wrote:Did she just used Bankai and nothing happened ? WTF ? And I'm pretty sure she won't die, Kenpachi will save her (but we won't know until later) in order to fight her again. Bleach
seems like the captain whos obsessed with noting but fighting and killing has a shikai that heals and a bankai that causes illusions
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On February 17 2013 19:22 DauBo wrote:
So when kenpachi activates Shikai and then Bankai will he officially be the strongest shinigami? o.o
Kenpachi shikai is always on just like ichigo. That's why his sword is all wavy
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On February 18 2013 02:52 NPF wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 19:22 DauBo wrote:
So when kenpachi activates Shikai and then Bankai will he officially be the strongest shinigami? o.o
Kenpachi shikai is always on just like ichigo. That's why his sword is all wavy
? I thought it was wavy because he had so much power he couldn't even properly form a shikai. It's like a fked up sword blade rather than anything special.
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On February 18 2013 03:11 SamsungStar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 02:52 NPF wrote:On February 17 2013 19:22 DauBo wrote:
So when kenpachi activates Shikai and then Bankai will he officially be the strongest shinigami? o.o
Kenpachi shikai is always on just like ichigo. That's why his sword is all wavy ? I thought it was wavy because he had so much power he couldn't even properly form a shikai. It's like a fked up sword blade rather than anything special.
not all shikais are special jsut look at fatass's or CCs lietanant guy
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On February 17 2013 18:33 Lylat wrote:Did she just used Bankai and nothing happened ? WTF ? And I'm pretty sure she won't die, Kenpachi will save her (but we won't know until later) in order to fight her again. Bleach
Anyone else got a feeling that when Urahara finally revealed his bankai, we will get similar result? Well done Kubo, you have trolled us with the intention that we might see a bankai yet again.
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On February 18 2013 06:14 SheaR619 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 18:33 Lylat wrote:Did she just used Bankai and nothing happened ? WTF ? And I'm pretty sure she won't die, Kenpachi will save her (but we won't know until later) in order to fight her again. Bleach Anyone else got a feeling that when Urahara finally revealed his bankai, we will get similar result? Well done Kubo, you have trolled us with the intention that we might see a bankai yet again.
Urahara willl use Bankai then get killed just like Yamamoto
thats probs the onyl scenario Urahara will bankai
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On February 17 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 22:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On February 15 2013 00:19 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 18:29 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 15:17 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 14:56 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 14:09 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. because its not 1 unohana (+ a tiny bit) captain its one Captain who can completely outclass Unohana so much that he had to hold back jsut to prolong there fight Unohana was getting owned by Zaraki before Zaraki started unconsciously holding back so assuming that Zaraki is no longer holding back at all, and adding in some growth on account of him being so much older hed easily be on the same level as the 0th division guys But you're assuming he was unlocked 100%. It's more likely that he was only unlocked to the level that allowed him to beat Unohana. He could have possibly gotten much stronger. Of course now we'll never know =P. judging by how he was talking at the end (just waking up from a dream) id say that hes completely reverted to how he was if Unohana thought he was still holding back shed continue the fight, im willing to bet whatever it was that stopped Zaraki from dieing wasnt Unohana ? She said it herself that she kept reviving/healing him during their fight. it doesnt make sense though that she can do it so seamlessly with Zaraki not noticing at all though :< Your logic is so twisted you just posted to someone else in the OP thread about how you shouldn't apply real-world logic to manga in speculation and here you are disputing an explicitly stated plot point... im not applying real world logic to bleach, it makes no sense that Zaraki can DIE then Unohana can heal him, stand him up, put his sword in his hand and then move back and him not realise at all that anything happened other then he blacked out for a second
It makes no sense if you're using real-world logic. This is a manga where swords can talk and people can fly and something like "healing power" exists in the first place. Are you really in disbelief that something so simple could happen? Like, really? THAT'S where you pick your fight?
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On February 18 2013 07:31 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:On February 16 2013 22:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On February 15 2013 00:19 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 18:29 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 15:17 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 14:56 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 14:09 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. because its not 1 unohana (+ a tiny bit) captain its one Captain who can completely outclass Unohana so much that he had to hold back jsut to prolong there fight Unohana was getting owned by Zaraki before Zaraki started unconsciously holding back so assuming that Zaraki is no longer holding back at all, and adding in some growth on account of him being so much older hed easily be on the same level as the 0th division guys But you're assuming he was unlocked 100%. It's more likely that he was only unlocked to the level that allowed him to beat Unohana. He could have possibly gotten much stronger. Of course now we'll never know =P. judging by how he was talking at the end (just waking up from a dream) id say that hes completely reverted to how he was if Unohana thought he was still holding back shed continue the fight, im willing to bet whatever it was that stopped Zaraki from dieing wasnt Unohana ? She said it herself that she kept reviving/healing him during their fight. it doesnt make sense though that she can do it so seamlessly with Zaraki not noticing at all though :< Your logic is so twisted you just posted to someone else in the OP thread about how you shouldn't apply real-world logic to manga in speculation and here you are disputing an explicitly stated plot point... im not applying real world logic to bleach, it makes no sense that Zaraki can DIE then Unohana can heal him, stand him up, put his sword in his hand and then move back and him not realise at all that anything happened other then he blacked out for a second It makes no sense if you're using real-world logic. This is a manga where swords can talk and people can fly and something like "healing power" exists in the first place. Are you really in disbelief that something so simple could happen? Like, really? THAT'S where you pick your fight?
I honestly just want to know why there is a random giant fox guy. I still can't remember if that was ever explained.
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On February 18 2013 07:47 SamsungStar wrote:Show nested quote +On February 18 2013 07:31 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On February 17 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:On February 16 2013 22:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On February 15 2013 00:19 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 18:29 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 15:17 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 14:56 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 14:09 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. because its not 1 unohana (+ a tiny bit) captain its one Captain who can completely outclass Unohana so much that he had to hold back jsut to prolong there fight Unohana was getting owned by Zaraki before Zaraki started unconsciously holding back so assuming that Zaraki is no longer holding back at all, and adding in some growth on account of him being so much older hed easily be on the same level as the 0th division guys But you're assuming he was unlocked 100%. It's more likely that he was only unlocked to the level that allowed him to beat Unohana. He could have possibly gotten much stronger. Of course now we'll never know =P. judging by how he was talking at the end (just waking up from a dream) id say that hes completely reverted to how he was if Unohana thought he was still holding back shed continue the fight, im willing to bet whatever it was that stopped Zaraki from dieing wasnt Unohana ? She said it herself that she kept reviving/healing him during their fight. it doesnt make sense though that she can do it so seamlessly with Zaraki not noticing at all though :< Your logic is so twisted you just posted to someone else in the OP thread about how you shouldn't apply real-world logic to manga in speculation and here you are disputing an explicitly stated plot point... im not applying real world logic to bleach, it makes no sense that Zaraki can DIE then Unohana can heal him, stand him up, put his sword in his hand and then move back and him not realise at all that anything happened other then he blacked out for a second It makes no sense if you're using real-world logic. This is a manga where swords can talk and people can fly and something like "healing power" exists in the first place. Are you really in disbelief that something so simple could happen? Like, really? THAT'S where you pick your fight? I honestly just want to know why there is a random giant fox guy. I still can't remember if that was ever explained.
Or why Captain Kurotsuchi is seemingly an alien. Or maybe he's just pulling off a Princess Amidala look. Neither was really explained.
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On February 17 2013 17:42 Prplppleatr wrote:I have watched through the main arc (aizen) + Show Spoiler +Ichigo wears him out enough that they contain him and sentence him to thousands of years in prison, but ichigo is losing his soul reaper powers ...is it worth going into the next one? Seems like it should of jsut ended there.
Keep going. Then you can have your weekly dose of fun as you visit this thread after each chapter's release
It takes you probably less than a minute to read a chapter, and you'll end up being like "wtf am I reading?" Then you come here, where we all share our wtfs and bitch about how terrible the last chapter was week after week. It's actually pretty fun
Or you can be one of those optimistic ones and remind us all that "atleast this isn't the Fullbringer arc" (at this point I KNOW you're like "wtf is Fullbringer arc?" Trust me, you have to read it to believe it, and even after reading it, your brain will be in denial and you still won't comprehend what you just did to your brain)
Then there's the rare chapter that people enjoy, and by enjoy I actually mean "hey this chapter wasn't absolutely terrible and I only slightly regret wasting 35 seconds of my life reading this chapter."
Reading all of that, you might wonder "Why the hell would I recommend you to keep reading?" I dunno... the guys that are telling you to save yourself... maybe they have some compassion, but me... I'm kind of an asshole and wish to drag you to hell with me. So please, continue following Bleach. Only then will this thread make sense
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On February 18 2013 07:31 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:Show nested quote +On February 17 2013 00:22 Forikorder wrote:On February 16 2013 22:45 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:On February 15 2013 00:19 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 18:29 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 15:17 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 14:56 beefhamburger wrote:On February 14 2013 14:09 Forikorder wrote:On February 14 2013 13:57 beefhamburger wrote:
So if Unohana "trained" Zaraki until he was stronger than her until he is able to kill her, how the hell does that really help their overall cause in increasing Soul Society's strength? Say Zaraki becomes just a little stronger than Unohana and is able to finally beat her in battle, you trade 1 Unohana level captain + 1 Zaraki level captain and you end up with 1 Unohana+ (a very tiny +) level captain. Seems like a terrible trade off unless Zaraki skyrocketed a ridiculous amount in power. because its not 1 unohana (+ a tiny bit) captain its one Captain who can completely outclass Unohana so much that he had to hold back jsut to prolong there fight Unohana was getting owned by Zaraki before Zaraki started unconsciously holding back so assuming that Zaraki is no longer holding back at all, and adding in some growth on account of him being so much older hed easily be on the same level as the 0th division guys But you're assuming he was unlocked 100%. It's more likely that he was only unlocked to the level that allowed him to beat Unohana. He could have possibly gotten much stronger. Of course now we'll never know =P. judging by how he was talking at the end (just waking up from a dream) id say that hes completely reverted to how he was if Unohana thought he was still holding back shed continue the fight, im willing to bet whatever it was that stopped Zaraki from dieing wasnt Unohana ? She said it herself that she kept reviving/healing him during their fight. it doesnt make sense though that she can do it so seamlessly with Zaraki not noticing at all though :< Your logic is so twisted you just posted to someone else in the OP thread about how you shouldn't apply real-world logic to manga in speculation and here you are disputing an explicitly stated plot point... im not applying real world logic to bleach, it makes no sense that Zaraki can DIE then Unohana can heal him, stand him up, put his sword in his hand and then move back and him not realise at all that anything happened other then he blacked out for a second It makes no sense if you're using real-world logic. This is a manga where swords can talk and people can fly and something like "healing power" exists in the first place. Are you really in disbelief that something so simple could happen? Like, really? THAT'S where you pick your fight?
it makes no sense that unohana can heal him in such a way hes not even aware he died and got healed there has to be some temporal something happening or Zaraki would ahve noticed
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