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Jukulmolder
Profile Joined April 2011
Spain254 Posts
October 12 2011 18:59 GMT
#3041
On October 13 2011 01:59 Monokeros wrote:
Seriously haters are going to hate, I don't care if he's fated to lose Tsukishima is the only "villain" who has some semblance of intelligence in this whole arc.

You do need some level of intelligence to use that ability, i mean all the other fullbrings are quite easy to understand except for maybe that "time tells no lies" dude, but kenpachi already owned him, so it doesn't matter.
"IT'S THE SCYTHE, ISN'T IT? PEOPLE ALWAYS NOTICE THE SCYTHE"
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
October 12 2011 19:26 GMT
#3042
On October 12 2011 23:49 Greth wrote:
"Cannot breathe? Ha! That is because I inserted my presence into the O2 molecules the moment they were formed, forcing them to become O3 molecules as they entered your lungs!
Ha! you exhaled! Very clever!"

You know what would be awesome? He jabs his sword into a piece of granite formed 4 billion years ago and his head promptly explodes with all the information received.

Just so you guys know, the ability is a living breathing deus ex machina. It is limitless. And it's mechanics are bullshit. As I have stated before, it's like two toddlers playing with action figures.
I looked at the naruto thread, they seem to be having a lot more fun than us. But I can't understand a word they're saying.



That's the same crap with Kyoraku's shikai as well. There's too many people in Bleach with deus ex machina powers if they really wanted to use them to their full extent. It's the problem with Kubo's style of writing. When he's having a writer's block, he just creates more characters and he ends up having to create new powers for all those new characters. He has to create so many that it's hard to create logical ones instead of all these deus ex machina powers.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
October 12 2011 20:07 GMT
#3043
On October 13 2011 04:26 andrewlt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 23:49 Greth wrote:
"Cannot breathe? Ha! That is because I inserted my presence into the O2 molecules the moment they were formed, forcing them to become O3 molecules as they entered your lungs!
Ha! you exhaled! Very clever!"

You know what would be awesome? He jabs his sword into a piece of granite formed 4 billion years ago and his head promptly explodes with all the information received.

Just so you guys know, the ability is a living breathing deus ex machina. It is limitless. And it's mechanics are bullshit. As I have stated before, it's like two toddlers playing with action figures.
I looked at the naruto thread, they seem to be having a lot more fun than us. But I can't understand a word they're saying.



That's the same crap with Kyoraku's shikai as well. There's too many people in Bleach with deus ex machina powers if they really wanted to use them to their full extent. It's the problem with Kubo's style of writing. When he's having a writer's block, he just creates more characters and he ends up having to create new powers for all those new characters. He has to create so many that it's hard to create logical ones instead of all these deus ex machina powers.

Kyoraku's shikai isn't a dues ex machina. Yukio on the other hand, that's a proper dues ex machina power. The bad thing about them is ofcourse that the user must be completly retarded not to win. As in the case of Yukio. You can always fight Kyoraku's shikai, you can't fight Yukios.
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
October 12 2011 21:45 GMT
#3044
WHAT.

Are you serious? Tsukishima is more broken than Aizen. The only defense is to catch him off-guard, which you can't do if he just keeps his sword touching the ground. Launch a long-range attack? Oh, right, he just altered the ground to create a fricken invincible aura around him after stabbing it for a bit.

The only thing Byakuya has left is his raw power. This is ridiculous.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
October 12 2011 22:01 GMT
#3045
On October 13 2011 06:45 Zeke50100 wrote:
WHAT.

Are you serious? Tsukishima is more broken than Aizen. The only defense is to catch him off-guard, which you can't do if he just keeps his sword touching the ground. Launch a long-range attack? Oh, right, he just altered the ground to create a fricken invincible aura around him after stabbing it for a bit.

The only thing Byakuya has left is his raw power. This is ridiculous.
and yet Yukio could beat him with a push of a button.
anch
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States5457 Posts
October 12 2011 22:27 GMT
#3046
On October 13 2011 06:45 Zeke50100 wrote:
WHAT.

Are you serious? Tsukishima is more broken than Aizen. The only defense is to catch him off-guard, which you can't do if he just keeps his sword touching the ground. Launch a long-range attack? Oh, right, he just altered the ground to create a fricken invincible aura around him after stabbing it for a bit.

The only thing Byakuya has left is his raw power. This is ridiculous.

he still has high level of demon-arts, and bankai which is like another million swords.

To beat Aizen you would have to be blind.
To beat Tsukishima, a captain probably just needs to bust out bankai, use some indirect attack or some instant kill.
ddrddrddrddr
Profile Joined August 2010
1344 Posts
October 12 2011 22:36 GMT
#3047
On October 13 2011 07:27 anch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 06:45 Zeke50100 wrote:
WHAT.

Are you serious? Tsukishima is more broken than Aizen. The only defense is to catch him off-guard, which you can't do if he just keeps his sword touching the ground. Launch a long-range attack? Oh, right, he just altered the ground to create a fricken invincible aura around him after stabbing it for a bit.

The only thing Byakuya has left is his raw power. This is ridiculous.

he still has high level of demon-arts, and bankai which is like another million swords.

To beat Aizen you would have to be blind.
To beat Tsukishima, a captain probably just needs to bust out bankai, use some indirect attack or some instant kill.

How do you plan to kill someone that can effectively time travel?
Blahbleh
Profile Joined August 2011
United States76 Posts
October 12 2011 22:36 GMT
#3048
On October 13 2011 07:27 anch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 06:45 Zeke50100 wrote:
WHAT.

Are you serious? Tsukishima is more broken than Aizen. The only defense is to catch him off-guard, which you can't do if he just keeps his sword touching the ground. Launch a long-range attack? Oh, right, he just altered the ground to create a fricken invincible aura around him after stabbing it for a bit.

The only thing Byakuya has left is his raw power. This is ridiculous.

he still has high level of demon-arts, and bankai which is like another million swords.

To beat Aizen you would have to be blind.
To beat Tsukishima, a captain probably just needs to bust out bankai, use some indirect attack or some instant kill.



That and shouldnt Byakuya be much faster.. and by much faster i should say that Tsukishima shouldnt even be able to register Byakuyas movements let alone being able to CUT him...
"Immortal/Roach is pretty good against Stalkers" - Idra
FuzzyLord
Profile Joined September 2010
253 Posts
October 12 2011 22:38 GMT
#3049
On October 13 2011 07:27 anch wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 06:45 Zeke50100 wrote:
WHAT.

Are you serious? Tsukishima is more broken than Aizen. The only defense is to catch him off-guard, which you can't do if he just keeps his sword touching the ground. Launch a long-range attack? Oh, right, he just altered the ground to create a fricken invincible aura around him after stabbing it for a bit.

The only thing Byakuya has left is his raw power. This is ridiculous.

he still has high level of demon-arts, and bankai which is like another million swords.

To beat Aizen you would have to be blind.
To beat Tsukishima, a captain probably just needs to bust out bankai, use some indirect attack or some instant kill.


To beat Tsukishima, become retarded.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 22:50:16
October 12 2011 22:48 GMT
#3050
I just had a fucking horrific image in my head. I was thinking a really easy way to kill Tsuki-boy would to just have a sociopath going up to again him since then the whole "Insert yourself in thier past" would not affect them in the slightest. You know the only character in bleach that fits that description? Aizen. Just imagine the this scenario. Tuski-boy beats el capitano. Everyone is horrified who could possibly beat a guy that could easily dispatch a captain?

Insert flashbacks to Aizen killing his own teammates. Someone brings up the bright idea to release Aizen so he can kill Tsuki-boy. Because afterall they have trained for 17 months to bring down Aizen. Insert the next Arc.

Aizen... WITH A VENGEANCE.

I DARE YOU TO DO THIS KUBO, I FUCKING DUBBLE DARE YOU!
Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
October 12 2011 22:50 GMT
#3051
Tsukishima knows everything about Byakuya's Zanpakuto and the techniques used with it. This implies Bankai, as well, unless Kubo is going to do one of those stupid "Actually, I still have Bankai," followed by Tsukishima going "o.0, I'm dead" moments.

It's also been hinted that Tsukishima is freaking fast, too. Otherwise, Byakuya would have won by now.

Although, a general question not directly related to Tsukishima: How can the fullbring users even see the Shinigami? Ichigo couldn't until he was given his powers back. Ginjo I would understand, but I doubt he transferred his Shinigami powers (if they remain) to the rest of the gang.
Blahbleh
Profile Joined August 2011
United States76 Posts
October 12 2011 22:53 GMT
#3052
On October 13 2011 07:50 Zeke50100 wrote:
Tsukishima knows everything about Byakuya's Zanpakuto and the techniques used with it. This implies Bankai, as well, unless Kubo is going to do one of those stupid "Actually, I still have Bankai," followed by Tsukishima going "o.0, I'm dead" moments.

It's also been hinted that Tsukishima is freaking fast, too. Otherwise, Byakuya would have won by now.

Although, a general question not directly related to Tsukishima: How can the fullbring users even see the Shinigami? Ichigo couldn't until he was given his powers back. Ginjo I would understand, but I doubt he transferred his Shinigami powers (if they remain) to the rest of the gang.



beats the shit outa me... *shrugs*
"Immortal/Roach is pretty good against Stalkers" - Idra
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 22:58:14
October 12 2011 22:56 GMT
#3053
On October 13 2011 07:50 Zeke50100 wrote:
Tsukishima knows everything about Byakuya's Zanpakuto and the techniques used with it. This implies Bankai, as well, unless Kubo is going to do one of those stupid "Actually, I still have Bankai," followed by Tsukishima going "o.0, I'm dead" moments.

It's also been hinted that Tsukishima is freaking fast, too. Otherwise, Byakuya would have won by now.

Although, a general question not directly related to Tsukishima: How can the fullbring users even see the Shinigami? Ichigo couldn't until he was given his powers back. Ginjo I would understand, but I doubt he transferred his Shinigami powers (if they remain) to the rest of the gang.
Look it's not made to make sense. I'm going to pound this dead horse to the ground. YUKIO WAS FUCKING GOD IN HIS REALM. Why the hell didn't he just create a space that instantly kills anyone that enters. Bai bai iceboy. Why the hell would he summon monsters? it's the worst possible way to kill someone IF YOU ARE A FREAKING GOD.

Why wouldn't he give himself infinite extra lives? Why would he not give him self the invicibility code? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
October 12 2011 22:57 GMT
#3054
Wtf is going on. I stopped for a while after they locked up Aizen... So effing confused.
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Zeke50100
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2220 Posts
October 12 2011 23:31 GMT
#3055
On October 13 2011 07:56 Hynda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 07:50 Zeke50100 wrote:
Tsukishima knows everything about Byakuya's Zanpakuto and the techniques used with it. This implies Bankai, as well, unless Kubo is going to do one of those stupid "Actually, I still have Bankai," followed by Tsukishima going "o.0, I'm dead" moments.

It's also been hinted that Tsukishima is freaking fast, too. Otherwise, Byakuya would have won by now.

Although, a general question not directly related to Tsukishima: How can the fullbring users even see the Shinigami? Ichigo couldn't until he was given his powers back. Ginjo I would understand, but I doubt he transferred his Shinigami powers (if they remain) to the rest of the gang.
Look it's not made to make sense. I'm going to pound this dead horse to the ground. YUKIO WAS FUCKING GOD IN HIS REALM. Why the hell didn't he just create a space that instantly kills anyone that enters. Bai bai iceboy. Why the hell would he summon monsters? it's the worst possible way to kill someone IF YOU ARE A FREAKING GOD.

Why wouldn't he give himself infinite extra lives? Why would he not give him self the invicibility code? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY


You've never heard of somebody toying with their enemies and it backfiring? It was clear from the get-go that that was what he was doing, especially since that behavior was alluded many times before.
Hynda
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Sweden2226 Posts
October 12 2011 23:41 GMT
#3056
On October 13 2011 08:31 Zeke50100 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2011 07:56 Hynda wrote:
On October 13 2011 07:50 Zeke50100 wrote:
Tsukishima knows everything about Byakuya's Zanpakuto and the techniques used with it. This implies Bankai, as well, unless Kubo is going to do one of those stupid "Actually, I still have Bankai," followed by Tsukishima going "o.0, I'm dead" moments.

It's also been hinted that Tsukishima is freaking fast, too. Otherwise, Byakuya would have won by now.

Although, a general question not directly related to Tsukishima: How can the fullbring users even see the Shinigami? Ichigo couldn't until he was given his powers back. Ginjo I would understand, but I doubt he transferred his Shinigami powers (if they remain) to the rest of the gang.
Look it's not made to make sense. I'm going to pound this dead horse to the ground. YUKIO WAS FUCKING GOD IN HIS REALM. Why the hell didn't he just create a space that instantly kills anyone that enters. Bai bai iceboy. Why the hell would he summon monsters? it's the worst possible way to kill someone IF YOU ARE A FREAKING GOD.

Why wouldn't he give himself infinite extra lives? Why would he not give him self the invicibility code? WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY WHY


You've never heard of somebody toying with their enemies and it backfiring? It was clear from the get-go that that was what he was doing, especially since that behavior was alluded many times before.

I've never heard of anyone not giving themselves a single out. He could add ANY KIND of saftey net-
Cirn9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1117 Posts
October 14 2011 16:39 GMT
#3057
Byakuya's still got kido

+ Show Spoiler +
Until its deflected by Book of the End
Unprotected sex is like fast expanding in close positions. Its risky, but feels great when it works out
SupaChicken
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia273 Posts
October 14 2011 18:11 GMT
#3058
On October 13 2011 07:50 Zeke50100 wrote:
Tsukishima knows everything about Byakuya's Zanpakuto and the techniques used with it. This implies Bankai, as well, unless Kubo is going to do one of those stupid "Actually, I still have Bankai," followed by Tsukishima going "o.0, I'm dead" moments.

It's also been hinted that Tsukishima is freaking fast, too. Otherwise, Byakuya would have won by now.

Although, a general question not directly related to Tsukishima: How can the fullbring users even see the Shinigami? Ichigo couldn't until he was given his powers back. Ginjo I would understand, but I doubt he transferred his Shinigami powers (if they remain) to the rest of the gang.


You're forgetting that Inoue and Sado are both fullbring users, which says to me that to use fullbring you need spiritual power. So Ichigo probably could see the Shinigami. He was very confused during the battle so he didn't notice them till they stabbed him.
I need a new quote...
Emporio
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3069 Posts
October 14 2011 18:48 GMT
#3059
On October 13 2011 07:48 Hynda wrote:
I just had a fucking horrific image in my head. I was thinking a really easy way to kill Tsuki-boy would to just have a sociopath going up to again him since then the whole "Insert yourself in thier past" would not affect them in the slightest. You know the only character in bleach that fits that description? Aizen. Just imagine the this scenario. Tuski-boy beats el capitano. Everyone is horrified who could possibly beat a guy that could easily dispatch a captain?

Insert flashbacks to Aizen killing his own teammates. Someone brings up the bright idea to release Aizen so he can kill Tsuki-boy. Because afterall they have trained for 17 months to bring down Aizen. Insert the next Arc.

Aizen... WITH A VENGEANCE.

I DARE YOU TO DO THIS KUBO, I FUCKING DUBBLE DARE YOU!

Let me one up you there. Aizen was actually a good guy that ORIGINALLY was on the Soul Society side and was even fighting against Tsukishima. However, somehow Tsukishima managed to cut Aizen and make him do EVERYTHING that he has done since the beginning to become the villain we all know today. The Bleach manga you have all been reading up to now is not "reality" but the altered history that Tsukishima created by somehow inserting himself into the past to turn Aizen evil.
How does it feel knowing you wasted another 3 seconds of your life reading this again?
-ty[r]ant
Profile Joined January 2010
United States140 Posts
October 14 2011 19:35 GMT
#3060
Anyone else just feel like Yukio is a lamer version of Amanuma from Yu Yu Hakusho? Their powers are basically the same thing at the core.
"Yo guys I got this new technique where I enter a preschool and knee a bunch of kids in the face. Nobody there has managed to stop me yet." - Bibbit
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