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On April 03 2012 03:48 TheFish7 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 03:44 Maginor wrote:On April 03 2012 03:24 r00ty wrote:
Weren't they filming Season 2+3 together? I mean they have to speed up a bit, the child actors aren't getting any younger... No. There is a rumor that they will film season 3+4 together but that has not been confirmed, and I don't think HBO or the producers is the source of ther rumour. That would probably mean a delay in release so that season 3 would start 1 1/2 year from now. It's not like they can just pour in more money to make twice the amount of content in the same space of time. That would mean a drastic cut in quality since it would put too much of a strain on the producers. It would only really make sense for them to film 4+5 together, for reasons that I can't discuss in this thread.
I thought i heard somewhere that were gonna film seasons 3 and 4 together because there gonna make the third book cover 2 seasons. So for the tv show there will prolly be a long break between this season and next but not as long as the one after that
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On April 03 2012 03:55 Maginor wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 03:51 TheFish7 wrote:
...They actually combined two scenes from the book together... Read the warning at the top of the thread?
virtually every post in this awesome "no books discussion"-topic has the word book in it, i find it awesome.
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On April 03 2012 04:00 Strike_ wrote:
Who was the guy who poisoned himself and wtf was he even doing
Disregarding everything I know from the books, from just the perspective of a viewer. He seems to be close enough to Stannis to be part of his council, outraged at the fact they were burning statues of their gods to worship this 'new' god. From what he said to Davos he believes that this woman in red will only lead Stannis to destruction, and that something must be done to stop her, even if it means his own life.
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Also there has been a lot of comments that are infringing upon the rules for this thread regarding book discussion. Nothing blatant but still more than needs be discussed. As the season picks up moderation is going to get more strict regarding this, so remember to take those types of comments to this thread.
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On April 03 2012 04:03 Leth0 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 04:00 Strike_ wrote:
Who was the guy who poisoned himself and wtf was he even doing Disregarding everything I know from the books, from just the perspective of a viewer. He seems to be close enough to Stannis to be part of his council, outraged at the fact they were burning statues of their gods to worship this 'new' god. From what he said to Davos he believes that this woman in red will only lead Stannis to destruction, and that something must be done to stop her, even if it means his own life.
Poisoning yourself is kind of a weird way to make a statement...
It looked like he wanted to poison the woman in red but I guess she's like blessed by the new gods and the poison didn't affect her or something?
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On April 03 2012 04:05 Strike_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 04:03 Leth0 wrote:On April 03 2012 04:00 Strike_ wrote:
Who was the guy who poisoned himself and wtf was he even doing Disregarding everything I know from the books, from just the perspective of a viewer. He seems to be close enough to Stannis to be part of his council, outraged at the fact they were burning statues of their gods to worship this 'new' god. From what he said to Davos he believes that this woman in red will only lead Stannis to destruction, and that something must be done to stop her, even if it means his own life. Poisoning yourself is kind of a weird way to make a statement... It looked like he wanted to poison the woman in red but I guess she's like blessed by the new gods and the poison didn't affect her or something?
Indeed, it seems weird that he would do something so rash. Maybe he believes she is that big of a threat, maybe he's just crazy. The one thing we can take away from that scene though is that He is so fiercely loyal to Stannis that he is willing to end his own life in order to protect his lords from this mysterious woman. Maybe he justifies it to himself in the way that "he's old , he's not long for this world , and if he's going to die , make it worth something'.
Sadly he dies and it is worth nothing.
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Thoroughly enjoyed the first episode. Tyrion is still owning it up, the scene with him walking in on the small council while whistling a tune was classic.
Only thing that was a bit iffy to me was when the poisoning scene with Melisandre. Didnt fully follow what was going on there till I read the comments here, So he poisoned himself in the hope she would go down too? Seemed a bit much but I guess he's pretty old.
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I actually saw some person commenting that "he or she will never watch it again" because of the end to this episode. Such an adorable mind set. As if things like that never happened in real life or in the Bible for that matter.
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On April 03 2012 04:14 Doppelganger wrote:
I actually saw some person commenting that "he or she will never watch it again" because of the end to this episode. Such an adorable mind set. As if things like that never happened in real life or in the Bible for that matter.
To be fair, there are a lot of parents out there that just CANNOT stand to see chidlren being harmed (or alluding to them being harmed) It can just completely turn them off of something.
On one hand I understand a person feeling that way , on the other hand its a fairly strong story element that needs to be shown, and this story certainly isn't one that is trying to appeal to people, it's a story that holds nothing back in order to tell itself.
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On April 03 2012 03:54 TheBrunk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 03 2012 03:28 crms wrote:On April 03 2012 01:22 TigerKarl wrote:
I love the Stannis actor, he looks totally different from what i expected but he knows exactly how to play this role. I loved every of the few sentences he spoke. Man, I'm really surprised to see the amount of book readers who liked the actor they picked for stannis. Everyone I watched with/talked with after who has read the books groaned about him. It was my only real gripe of the episode. Stannis is supposed to be a great soldier, gritty, strong jawed and slightly psychotic. This was just some balding asshole who doesn't look like he's ever picked up a sword. He also reminds of a balding version of the dad on modern family. The scene where Stannis is constantly correcting the message was so awesome in the book but the actor made it seem so weak and meager in the show. I'm really bummed about the way Stannis is being portrayed. Everything else was ace though. Yeah when reading the books, i got the image that stannis was suppose to look like the actor who played leonidas in 300. Davos character looks more like what i imaged stannis to be and stannis looks like what i imagined davos would look like.
I actually pictured him a little larger and with a beard like Roberts. Not disappointed though.
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Yea, what's with the scene when that man poisons himself?
There is something odd though, when that women in red drinks from the cup her ruby amulet starts blinking. Maybe she's a witch.
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Ok I'm going to read the books. Haven't read any books in years. Can anyone recommend other good fantasy books too? I mean apparently A Song of Ice and Fire is really popular but I never heard of it before the tv series.
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They probably are gonna fail are capturing the book in a clear way, as there is so much going on.
Unless they start making more episodes per season, theres gonna be some disapointments.
PS: Yes I imagined stannis as leonidas too
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On April 03 2012 04:24 epoc wrote:
Ok I'm going to read the books. Haven't read any books in years. Can anyone recommend other good fantasy books too? I mean apparently A Song of Ice and Fire is really popular but I never heard of it before the tv series.
Theres some classics like the hobbit, HG wells books, rpg based books like the adventures of drizzt do urden, discworld, conan, more realistic books like bernard cornwell books about king arthur, and I have heard good things about the the name of the king from patrick rothfuss
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Steven Erikksons - Malazan Book of The Fallen are really good. ^_^
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On April 03 2012 04:14 Doppelganger wrote:
I actually saw some person commenting that "he or she will never watch it again" because of the end to this episode. Such an adorable mind set. As if things like that never happened in real life or in the Bible for that matter.
Scenes like this really make the show for me. Not that i like seeing it, I just feel taken serious as a viewer by the makers. They don't show it for the shocking value and it's never exaggerated, they show it because it's part of it and to me really adds to the athmosphere.
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about the poisoning scene: He did it because he did not want to make her suspicious, even sacrificing himself just for that. That was pretty clear imo. Didn't read the books.
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On April 03 2012 04:22 Andr3 wrote:
Yea, what's with the scene when that man poisons himself?
There is something odd though, when that women in red drinks from the cup her ruby amulet starts blinking. Maybe she's a witch.
They did a poor job with this scene (one of the few they rushed too much). The idea is that the Maester feels threatened by the Red Sorceress (Melisandre) and believes she is leading his lord (Stannis) in a disastrous direction. In a desperate move, he poisons two drinks, one for himself and one for Melisandre, in the hopes of taking her down with him. He's horrified when he realizes that the poison is killing him, but not affecting her at all (implying some kind of true sorcery, rather than just smoke and mirrors).
All of this is in the episode, but they go over it so quickly and some of it is so subtle that the casual viewer who hasn't read the books has a hard time knowing what's going on.
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On April 03 2012 04:24 epoc wrote:
Ok I'm going to read the books. Haven't read any books in years. Can anyone recommend other good fantasy books too? I mean apparently A Song of Ice and Fire is really popular but I never heard of it before the tv series.
The discworld series is one of the best things I've read. Very worth the read.
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On April 03 2012 04:28 D10 wrote:
They probably are gonna fail are capturing the book in a clear way, as there is so much going on.
Unless they start making more episodes per season, theres gonna be some disapointments.
PS: Yes I imagined stannis as leonidas too
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When you try so hard to keep from enjoying things it's easy to be dissapointed.
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On April 03 2012 04:38 ZasZ. wrote:
In a desperate move, he poisons two drinks, one for himself and one for Melisandre, in the hopes of taking her down with him. He's horrified when he realizes that the poison is killing him, but not affecting her at all (implying some kind of true sorcery, rather than just smoke and mirrors).
All of this is in the episode, but they go over it so quickly and some of it is so subtle that the casual viewer who hasn't read the books has a hard time knowing what's going on.
It's only one cup, his cup. The only purpose of drinking first from it, is not raising suspicion. He's already clearly showing signs of poisoning (nosebleeding, shivering) and she still drinks it, that's when the viewer knows she's not a normal person. That's how i got it.
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