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Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
June 10 2011 05:43 GMT
#4381
Hmm, maybe.
Still, I dont think he knows what they did to Bran. ;x
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
Watershed-
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands27 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 10:09:36
June 10 2011 10:09 GMT
#4382
If Robert lived 2 more days, Eddard would've told him about Cersei and Jaime, and the Lannistes would be history. He died at the worst possible time... Now the Lannisters control the throne by luck. So much for the Game of Thrones...
On June 03 2011 04:19 Delerium wrote: I'm sure if you tell a girl "You don't have free will, and neither do I, and I'm going to use psychology to get you to sleep with me tonight" it will have fine results
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 10 2011 10:12 GMT
#4383
On June 10 2011 19:09 Watershed- wrote:
If Robert lived 2 more days, Eddard would've told him about Cersei and Jaime, and the Lannistes would be history. He died at the worst possible time... Now the Lannisters control the throne by luck. So much for the Game of Thrones...


You think he died by accident? Varys himself said that Ned's mercy in telling Cersei led directly to Robert's poisoning and death.
Watershed-
Profile Joined November 2010
Netherlands27 Posts
June 10 2011 10:14 GMT
#4384
Oh, must've missed it.
On June 03 2011 04:19 Delerium wrote: I'm sure if you tell a girl "You don't have free will, and neither do I, and I'm going to use psychology to get you to sleep with me tonight" it will have fine results
Horst
Profile Joined November 2010
338 Posts
June 10 2011 11:17 GMT
#4385
On June 10 2011 19:12 snotboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 19:09 Watershed- wrote:
If Robert lived 2 more days, Eddard would've told him about Cersei and Jaime, and the Lannistes would be history. He died at the worst possible time... Now the Lannisters control the throne by luck. So much for the Game of Thrones...


You think he died by accident? Varys himself said that Ned's mercy in telling Cersei led directly to Robert's poisoning and death.


Robert wasn't poisoned... he was killed by a boar.

He was drunk, however. Remember his squire, a Lancel, giving him wine at every opportunity? I think there was an element of luck, because its entirely possible the king could have held his drink better and killed the boar.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
June 10 2011 11:28 GMT
#4386
On June 10 2011 20:17 Horst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 19:12 snotboogie wrote:
On June 10 2011 19:09 Watershed- wrote:
If Robert lived 2 more days, Eddard would've told him about Cersei and Jaime, and the Lannistes would be history. He died at the worst possible time... Now the Lannisters control the throne by luck. So much for the Game of Thrones...


You think he died by accident? Varys himself said that Ned's mercy in telling Cersei led directly to Robert's poisoning and death.


Robert wasn't poisoned... he was killed by a boar.

He was drunk, however. Remember his squire, a Lancel, giving him wine at every opportunity? I think there was an element of luck, because its entirely possible the king could have held his drink better and killed the boar.

It is implied later that the wine could have held some sort of drug dissolved in it.
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Switchy
Profile Joined June 2011
343 Posts
June 10 2011 11:28 GMT
#4387
On June 10 2011 20:17 Horst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 19:12 snotboogie wrote:
On June 10 2011 19:09 Watershed- wrote:
If Robert lived 2 more days, Eddard would've told him about Cersei and Jaime, and the Lannistes would be history. He died at the worst possible time... Now the Lannisters control the throne by luck. So much for the Game of Thrones...


You think he died by accident? Varys himself said that Ned's mercy in telling Cersei led directly to Robert's poisoning and death.


Robert wasn't poisoned... he was killed by a boar.

He was drunk, however. Remember his squire, a Lancel, giving him wine at every opportunity? I think there was an element of luck, because its entirely possible the king could have held his drink better and killed the boar.



Indeed however, Cersei would have him dead one way or another. It just happened to be a boar. When Ned showed mercy it set in motion the plots and schemes to have Robert killed one way or the other.
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
June 10 2011 11:34 GMT
#4388
On June 10 2011 20:17 Horst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 19:12 snotboogie wrote:
On June 10 2011 19:09 Watershed- wrote:
If Robert lived 2 more days, Eddard would've told him about Cersei and Jaime, and the Lannistes would be history. He died at the worst possible time... Now the Lannisters control the throne by luck. So much for the Game of Thrones...


You think he died by accident? Varys himself said that Ned's mercy in telling Cersei led directly to Robert's poisoning and death.


Robert wasn't poisoned... he was killed by a boar.

He was drunk, however. Remember his squire, a Lancel, giving him wine at every opportunity? I think there was an element of luck, because its entirely possible the king could have held his drink better and killed the boar.


It's heavily implied that Lancel had poisoned the wine.
GGitsJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
New Zealand426 Posts
June 10 2011 11:37 GMT
#4389
Alright, my mate just gave me the first 5 episodes, time to jump into this shit.
"A reason becomes an excuse if you don't do anything about it."
TheFrankOne
Profile Joined December 2010
United States667 Posts
June 10 2011 11:40 GMT
#4390
On June 10 2011 20:28 Body_Shield wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 20:17 Horst wrote:
On June 10 2011 19:12 snotboogie wrote:
On June 10 2011 19:09 Watershed- wrote:
If Robert lived 2 more days, Eddard would've told him about Cersei and Jaime, and the Lannistes would be history. He died at the worst possible time... Now the Lannisters control the throne by luck. So much for the Game of Thrones...


You think he died by accident? Varys himself said that Ned's mercy in telling Cersei led directly to Robert's poisoning and death.


Robert wasn't poisoned... he was killed by a boar.

He was drunk, however. Remember his squire, a Lancel, giving him wine at every opportunity? I think there was an element of luck, because its entirely possible the king could have held his drink better and killed the boar.

It is implied later that the wine could have held some sort of drug dissolved in it.


A Lancel Lannister, I bet he wanted to kill the king, Robert just treated him like shit, but being the king's squire must not be too bad of a position right?

I don't think it was implied that it was poisoned. Quote please?
betaV1.25
Profile Joined April 2010
425 Posts
June 10 2011 11:42 GMT
#4391
I allso dont remember it was implied that he was poisoned.... it was implied that he had access to more wine then he should have going eye to eye with a wild boar.
Body_Shield
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada3373 Posts
June 10 2011 11:43 GMT
#4392
It was suggested by the Spider after Ned finished taking down Robert's final orders and left the room, and talked with him. I'd get the exact wordings but I'm at work. Someone else please?
So, five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit
Zuor
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland377 Posts
June 10 2011 11:48 GMT
#4393
What Varys says in the scene: "Such a dutiful boy to make sure his Grace didn't lack refreshment". So yeah, how I understood it was that he just got Robert really drunk but poisoning him did cross my mind aswell.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 10 2011 12:00 GMT
#4394
On June 10 2011 20:17 Horst wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 19:12 snotboogie wrote:
On June 10 2011 19:09 Watershed- wrote:
If Robert lived 2 more days, Eddard would've told him about Cersei and Jaime, and the Lannistes would be history. He died at the worst possible time... Now the Lannisters control the throne by luck. So much for the Game of Thrones...


You think he died by accident? Varys himself said that Ned's mercy in telling Cersei led directly to Robert's poisoning and death.


Robert wasn't poisoned... he was killed by a boar.

He was drunk, however. Remember his squire, a Lancel, giving him wine at every opportunity? I think there was an element of luck, because its entirely possible the king could have held his drink better and killed the boar.

A small nitpick. Robert did kill the boar, but also got killed himself :D
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
June 10 2011 13:46 GMT
#4395
On June 10 2011 21:00 -Archangel- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 20:17 Horst wrote:
On June 10 2011 19:12 snotboogie wrote:
On June 10 2011 19:09 Watershed- wrote:
If Robert lived 2 more days, Eddard would've told him about Cersei and Jaime, and the Lannistes would be history. He died at the worst possible time... Now the Lannisters control the throne by luck. So much for the Game of Thrones...


You think he died by accident? Varys himself said that Ned's mercy in telling Cersei led directly to Robert's poisoning and death.


Robert wasn't poisoned... he was killed by a boar.

He was drunk, however. Remember his squire, a Lancel, giving him wine at every opportunity? I think there was an element of luck, because its entirely possible the king could have held his drink better and killed the boar.

A small nitpick. Robert did kill the boar, but also got killed himself :D

There was no poison in the wine, the wine was just really strong, and Lancel kept poring in the king's cup every time the king wanted a drink, which in our case is like every 5 seconds.
dyodyo
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Philippines578 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 13:49:44
June 10 2011 13:48 GMT
#4396
On June 10 2011 20:42 betaV1.25 wrote:
I allso dont remember it was implied that he was poisoned.... it was implied that he had access to more wine then he should have going eye to eye with a wild boar.


Indeed. Robert was known as a drunkard. The squire just made sure (as Varys implied) that there was always wine for Robert to drink.
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Gobe
Profile Joined November 2010
210 Posts
June 10 2011 14:01 GMT
#4397
I think what it was is that the wound from the boar wouldn't have killed him, but the Lannisters had even the people directly looking after the king in their service, and so they could tell the king he was going to die from the wound when actually he was just poisoned after the incident.
-Archangel-
Profile Joined May 2010
Croatia7457 Posts
June 10 2011 16:59 GMT
#4398
On June 10 2011 22:46 pred470r wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 21:00 -Archangel- wrote:
On June 10 2011 20:17 Horst wrote:
On June 10 2011 19:12 snotboogie wrote:
On June 10 2011 19:09 Watershed- wrote:
If Robert lived 2 more days, Eddard would've told him about Cersei and Jaime, and the Lannistes would be history. He died at the worst possible time... Now the Lannisters control the throne by luck. So much for the Game of Thrones...


You think he died by accident? Varys himself said that Ned's mercy in telling Cersei led directly to Robert's poisoning and death.


Robert wasn't poisoned... he was killed by a boar.

He was drunk, however. Remember his squire, a Lancel, giving him wine at every opportunity? I think there was an element of luck, because its entirely possible the king could have held his drink better and killed the boar.

A small nitpick. Robert did kill the boar, but also got killed himself :D

There was no poison in the wine, the wine was just really strong, and Lancel kept poring in the king's cup every time the king wanted a drink, which in our case is like every 5 seconds.

I believe the tv show will explain this to us in more detail in future. They did in the books.
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
June 10 2011 19:11 GMT
#4399
No, he wasn't poisoned. That would have been very easy to detect and could be traced directly back to Lancel and subsequently the Lannisters. They just got him so drunk that the boar killed him.

It's not touched upon so much in the show but remember how Robert planned to participate in the Hand's tournament melee? The Lannisters saw that as an opportunity to kill him as well with being able to make it look like a complete accident, which is why Ned tried so hard to convince him not to compete.
wat
Cyba
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania221 Posts
June 10 2011 20:42 GMT
#4400
On June 11 2011 04:11 Curu wrote:
No, he wasn't poisoned. That would have been very easy to detect and could be traced directly back to Lancel and subsequently the Lannisters. They just got him so drunk that the boar killed him.

It's not touched upon so much in the show but remember how Robert planned to participate in the Hand's tournament melee? The Lannisters saw that as an opportunity to kill him as well with being able to make it look like a complete accident, which is why Ned tried so hard to convince him not to compete.


Traced it with CSI or what? Nobody checked him for anything they DID mention his drink was tainted 0o
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