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I know it has been said before, but I can't help but mentioning that it's so absurd that people are absolutely fine with watching a guy ripping another guys tongue out with the whole family (perhaps even younger siblings?) around than some folks doing the most normal thing on the world.^^
That being said I understand criticism of needless sexscenes just to get some more viewers.
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On June 07 2011 19:01 Crazyeyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 18:03 OptimusYale wrote:On June 07 2011 17:47 MoonfireSpam wrote:On June 07 2011 15:40 lynx.oblige wrote:On June 07 2011 14:25 Drakan wrote:How is that the Dothraki lenguage wiki isn't on the original post. Yesterday I told my gf "Yer jalan atthirari anni" and she thought i was making that up until i told her to look it out on google and she rofled all day. Damn I'm a nerd. http://wiki.dothraki.org/dothraki/Main_PageOh and I was very curious about what part of the book are we (please don't mention the book, just say "around Half of first book"). Chapter 8 was sick, god i love Sirio Forel, maybe cz i'm latin and I have curly hair as him and HES A NINJAHhh! It's Syrio but yeah he's a hero Not today Syrio  Hope to see him reappear I'm pretty sure he's dead, alot of people died that day and I don't think they would have spared the water dancer, though if he is still alive that would definitely be a story...beating people with wooden sticks is epic I dunno, they weren't interested in him at all until he wouldnt' gtfo. And he could have killed everyone in the room, which means noone would know that he was an enemy in the first place and no need to go after him. Or he could have escaped in any other amount of ways -- the guy's a fucking badass. I for one think he survived... I really hope he does. He'll meet Arya one day again, and she'll be a baller with the sword. As soon as Arya escaped, first thing I thought was 'she's going to get into the forest. She'll get into trouble, and her wolf will come save her.' It's going to happen. Or something similar. =P As for the nudity... I remember Day9 talking about the show, and how he saidh e reccomended it to his mom not knowing what it was, only to be horrified at the nudity at every turn. I saw Spartacus like a month ago and was expecting something similar, but its relatively very very tame. Only one penis that I can remember, and the only vagina barley counted. People are such prudes =P
The Kingsguard guy that was left with Syrio was also in the throne room scene at the end, so Syrio didn't kill him. Syrio only had a broken wooden sword, and the guards he had knocked down already started rising. Of course, he could have escaped. Varys said they killed all of the Stark household, but he did not necessarily count Syrio into that.
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Considering the author of the books directed it, and deliberately left it open-ended.......I think he's alive. Maybe.
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On June 07 2011 20:49 Sm3agol wrote:
Considering the author of the books directed it, and deliberately left it open-ended.......I think he's alive. Maybe.
I think you might be right,
after he was unarmored, unarmed, relatively immobile (cause he had to stall while Arya was getting away) vs 1 Kingsguard fully armored and 3 City guards, again fully armored who suffered serious damage by being hit in the helmet with a wooden sword.
That's like saying a zerling could kill one Tank sieged and 3 goliaths with 1 hp each because he has legs and glands researched.
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On June 07 2011 23:00 tertos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 20:49 Sm3agol wrote:
Considering the author of the books directed it, and deliberately left it open-ended.......I think he's alive. Maybe. I think you might be right, after he was unarmored, unarmed, relatively immobile (cause he had to stall while Arya was getting away) vs 1 Kingsguard fully armored and 3 City guards, again fully armored who suffered serious damage by being hit in the helmet with a wooden sword. That's like saying a zerling could kill one Tank sieged and 3 goliaths with 1 hp each because he has legs and glands researched.
Syrio.
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On June 07 2011 19:01 Crazyeyes wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 18:03 OptimusYale wrote:On June 07 2011 17:47 MoonfireSpam wrote:On June 07 2011 15:40 lynx.oblige wrote:On June 07 2011 14:25 Drakan wrote:How is that the Dothraki lenguage wiki isn't on the original post. Yesterday I told my gf "Yer jalan atthirari anni" and she thought i was making that up until i told her to look it out on google and she rofled all day. Damn I'm a nerd. http://wiki.dothraki.org/dothraki/Main_PageOh and I was very curious about what part of the book are we (please don't mention the book, just say "around Half of first book"). Chapter 8 was sick, god i love Sirio Forel, maybe cz i'm latin and I have curly hair as him and HES A NINJAHhh! It's Syrio but yeah he's a hero Not today Syrio Hope to see him reappear I'm pretty sure he's dead, alot of people died that day and I don't think they would have spared the water dancer, though if he is still alive that would definitely be a story...beating people with wooden sticks is epic I dunno, they weren't interested in him at all until he wouldnt' gtfo. And he could have killed everyone in the room, which means noone would know that he was an enemy in the first place and no need to go after him. Or he could have escaped in any other amount of ways -- the guy's a fucking badass. I for one think he survived... I really hope he does. He'll meet Arya one day again, and she'll be a baller with the sword. As soon as Arya escaped, first thing I thought was 'she's going to get into the forest. She'll get into trouble, and her wolf will come save her.' It's going to happen. Or something similar. =P As for the nudity... I remember Day9 talking about the show, and how he saidh e reccomended it to his mom not knowing what it was, only to be horrified at the nudity at every turn. I saw Spartacus like a month ago and was expecting something similar, but its relatively very very tame. Only one penis that I can remember, and the only vagina barley counted. People are such prudes =P
I think you're mistaking this show with something like Percy Jackson
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On June 07 2011 23:08 Sm3agol wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 23:00 tertos wrote:On June 07 2011 20:49 Sm3agol wrote:
Considering the author of the books directed it, and deliberately left it open-ended.......I think he's alive. Maybe. I think you might be right, after he was unarmored, unarmed, relatively immobile (cause he had to stall while Arya was getting away) vs 1 Kingsguard fully armored and 3 City guards, again fully armored who suffered serious damage by being hit in the helmet with a wooden sword. That's like saying a zerling could kill one Tank sieged and 3 goliaths with 1 hp each because he has legs and glands researched. Syrio.
I can't check right now but couldn't you hear a metal sword hit the floor when arya left the room?
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Yeah so? Syrio wasn't using any metal sword. Oh I see what you did there!
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On June 08 2011 00:51 Raekhor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 23:08 Sm3agol wrote:On June 07 2011 23:00 tertos wrote:On June 07 2011 20:49 Sm3agol wrote:
Considering the author of the books directed it, and deliberately left it open-ended.......I think he's alive. Maybe. I think you might be right, after he was unarmored, unarmed, relatively immobile (cause he had to stall while Arya was getting away) vs 1 Kingsguard fully armored and 3 City guards, again fully armored who suffered serious damage by being hit in the helmet with a wooden sword. That's like saying a zerling could kill one Tank sieged and 3 goliaths with 1 hp each because he has legs and glands researched. Syrio. I can't check right now but couldn't you hear a metal sword hit the floor when arya left the room?
The same Kings guard is in the later scene where the Queen relieves that Knight of his duty.
(Terrible with names do didnt even bother trying .. :D)
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On June 08 2011 00:51 Raekhor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 23:08 Sm3agol wrote:On June 07 2011 23:00 tertos wrote:On June 07 2011 20:49 Sm3agol wrote:
Considering the author of the books directed it, and deliberately left it open-ended.......I think he's alive. Maybe. I think you might be right, after he was unarmored, unarmed, relatively immobile (cause he had to stall while Arya was getting away) vs 1 Kingsguard fully armored and 3 City guards, again fully armored who suffered serious damage by being hit in the helmet with a wooden sword. That's like saying a zerling could kill one Tank sieged and 3 goliaths with 1 hp each because he has legs and glands researched. Syrio. I can't check right now but couldn't you hear a metal sword hit the floor when arya left the room?
I assumed that he hoodwinked a sword from one of the rising guards and continued fighting.
What do we say to Death?
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On June 08 2011 00:51 Raekhor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 23:08 Sm3agol wrote:On June 07 2011 23:00 tertos wrote:On June 07 2011 20:49 Sm3agol wrote:
Considering the author of the books directed it, and deliberately left it open-ended.......I think he's alive. Maybe. I think you might be right, after he was unarmored, unarmed, relatively immobile (cause he had to stall while Arya was getting away) vs 1 Kingsguard fully armored and 3 City guards, again fully armored who suffered serious damage by being hit in the helmet with a wooden sword. That's like saying a zerling could kill one Tank sieged and 3 goliaths with 1 hp each because he has legs and glands researched. Syrio. I can't check right now but couldn't you hear a metal sword hit the floor when arya left the room?
Just checked, it was there indeed, but also with a scream. The guard guy was still alive near the end.
One thing to note is that as Arya was leaving one of the knocked down guards rose on his feet again.
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I loved the episode sansa was hearthbreaking when she got on her knees. Varys was strange, i dont really know.
Robb was the leader i allways imagined him to be, i just wish the episodes would last 3 hours every week, i woudnt have mind more time with the clans, more time at the wall.
cant wait for next monday.
as a side note HODOR he cheats with pushups ;-)
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On June 07 2011 19:55 Maginor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 19:01 Crazyeyes wrote:On June 07 2011 18:03 OptimusYale wrote:On June 07 2011 17:47 MoonfireSpam wrote:On June 07 2011 15:40 lynx.oblige wrote:On June 07 2011 14:25 Drakan wrote:How is that the Dothraki lenguage wiki isn't on the original post. Yesterday I told my gf "Yer jalan atthirari anni" and she thought i was making that up until i told her to look it out on google and she rofled all day. Damn I'm a nerd. http://wiki.dothraki.org/dothraki/Main_PageOh and I was very curious about what part of the book are we (please don't mention the book, just say "around Half of first book"). Chapter 8 was sick, god i love Sirio Forel, maybe cz i'm latin and I have curly hair as him and HES A NINJAHhh! It's Syrio but yeah he's a hero Not today Syrio Hope to see him reappear I'm pretty sure he's dead, alot of people died that day and I don't think they would have spared the water dancer, though if he is still alive that would definitely be a story...beating people with wooden sticks is epic I dunno, they weren't interested in him at all until he wouldnt' gtfo. And he could have killed everyone in the room, which means noone would know that he was an enemy in the first place and no need to go after him. Or he could have escaped in any other amount of ways -- the guy's a fucking badass. I for one think he survived... I really hope he does. He'll meet Arya one day again, and she'll be a baller with the sword. As soon as Arya escaped, first thing I thought was 'she's going to get into the forest. She'll get into trouble, and her wolf will come save her.' It's going to happen. Or something similar. =P As for the nudity... I remember Day9 talking about the show, and how he saidh e reccomended it to his mom not knowing what it was, only to be horrified at the nudity at every turn. I saw Spartacus like a month ago and was expecting something similar, but its relatively very very tame. Only one penis that I can remember, and the only vagina barley counted. People are such prudes =P The Kingsguard guy that was left with Syrio was also in the throne room scene at the end, so Syrio didn't kill him. Syrio only had a broken wooden sword, and the guards he had knocked down already started rising. Of course, he could have escaped. Varys said they killed all of the Stark household, but he did not necessarily count Syrio into that.
He also says: "The first sword of Bravos(sp?) does not run."
We can either assume he reneged on that statement when faced with the full armored Kingsguard and ran when Arya was safe or that he was killed or that he was subdued and held captive. More likely than not he would have been killed if he had been subdued given what he had done to the Lannister guardsmen.
I hope he's alive because he's a badass and an awesome character but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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On June 08 2011 01:04 1OneLovE wrote:Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 00:51 Raekhor wrote:On June 07 2011 23:08 Sm3agol wrote:On June 07 2011 23:00 tertos wrote:On June 07 2011 20:49 Sm3agol wrote:
Considering the author of the books directed it, and deliberately left it open-ended.......I think he's alive. Maybe. I think you might be right, after he was unarmored, unarmed, relatively immobile (cause he had to stall while Arya was getting away) vs 1 Kingsguard fully armored and 3 City guards, again fully armored who suffered serious damage by being hit in the helmet with a wooden sword. That's like saying a zerling could kill one Tank sieged and 3 goliaths with 1 hp each because he has legs and glands researched. Syrio. I can't check right now but couldn't you hear a metal sword hit the floor when arya left the room? The same Kings guard is in the later scene where the Queen relieves that Knight of his duty. (Terrible with names do didnt even bother trying .. :D)
Ser Meryn Trant? ![[image loading]](http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110606235658/gameofthrones/images/thumb/e/ee/Meryn_Trant.jpg/250px-Meryn_Trant.jpg)
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On June 07 2011 18:03 OptimusYale wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 17:47 MoonfireSpam wrote:On June 07 2011 15:40 lynx.oblige wrote:On June 07 2011 14:25 Drakan wrote:How is that the Dothraki lenguage wiki isn't on the original post. Yesterday I told my gf "Yer jalan atthirari anni" and she thought i was making that up until i told her to look it out on google and she rofled all day. Damn I'm a nerd. http://wiki.dothraki.org/dothraki/Main_PageOh and I was very curious about what part of the book are we (please don't mention the book, just say "around Half of first book"). Chapter 8 was sick, god i love Sirio Forel, maybe cz i'm latin and I have curly hair as him and HES A NINJAHhh! It's Syrio but yeah he's a hero Not today Syrio Hope to see him reappear I'm pretty sure he's dead, alot of people died that day and I don't think they would have spared the water dancer, though if he is still alive that would definitely be a story...beating people with wooden sticks is epic
I don't see why he wouldn't be alive. Everyone else who has died they've shown get killed.
On June 08 2011 00:51 Raekhor wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 23:08 Sm3agol wrote:On June 07 2011 23:00 tertos wrote:On June 07 2011 20:49 Sm3agol wrote:
Considering the author of the books directed it, and deliberately left it open-ended.......I think he's alive. Maybe. I think you might be right, after he was unarmored, unarmed, relatively immobile (cause he had to stall while Arya was getting away) vs 1 Kingsguard fully armored and 3 City guards, again fully armored who suffered serious damage by being hit in the helmet with a wooden sword. That's like saying a zerling could kill one Tank sieged and 3 goliaths with 1 hp each because he has legs and glands researched. Syrio. I can't check right now but couldn't you hear a metal sword hit the floor when arya left the room?
I heard that but couldn't tell where it was coming from, since there was fighting in the other direction as well.
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On June 08 2011 02:31 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 18:03 OptimusYale wrote:On June 07 2011 17:47 MoonfireSpam wrote:On June 07 2011 15:40 lynx.oblige wrote:On June 07 2011 14:25 Drakan wrote:How is that the Dothraki lenguage wiki isn't on the original post. Yesterday I told my gf "Yer jalan atthirari anni" and she thought i was making that up until i told her to look it out on google and she rofled all day. Damn I'm a nerd. http://wiki.dothraki.org/dothraki/Main_PageOh and I was very curious about what part of the book are we (please don't mention the book, just say "around Half of first book"). Chapter 8 was sick, god i love Sirio Forel, maybe cz i'm latin and I have curly hair as him and HES A NINJAHhh! It's Syrio but yeah he's a hero Not today Syrio Hope to see him reappear I'm pretty sure he's dead, alot of people died that day and I don't think they would have spared the water dancer, though if he is still alive that would definitely be a story...beating people with wooden sticks is epic I don't see why he wouldn't be alive. Everyone else who has died they've shown get killed. Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 00:51 Raekhor wrote:On June 07 2011 23:08 Sm3agol wrote:On June 07 2011 23:00 tertos wrote:On June 07 2011 20:49 Sm3agol wrote:
Considering the author of the books directed it, and deliberately left it open-ended.......I think he's alive. Maybe. I think you might be right, after he was unarmored, unarmed, relatively immobile (cause he had to stall while Arya was getting away) vs 1 Kingsguard fully armored and 3 City guards, again fully armored who suffered serious damage by being hit in the helmet with a wooden sword. That's like saying a zerling could kill one Tank sieged and 3 goliaths with 1 hp each because he has legs and glands researched. Syrio. I can't check right now but couldn't you hear a metal sword hit the floor when arya left the room? I heard that but couldn't tell where it was coming from, since there was fighting in the other direction as well.
Probably something left intentionally openended in the books so GRRM could bring him back if it made sense, and that carried over to the show.
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On June 08 2011 02:31 travis wrote:Show nested quote +On June 07 2011 18:03 OptimusYale wrote:On June 07 2011 17:47 MoonfireSpam wrote:On June 07 2011 15:40 lynx.oblige wrote:On June 07 2011 14:25 Drakan wrote:How is that the Dothraki lenguage wiki isn't on the original post. Yesterday I told my gf "Yer jalan atthirari anni" and she thought i was making that up until i told her to look it out on google and she rofled all day. Damn I'm a nerd. http://wiki.dothraki.org/dothraki/Main_PageOh and I was very curious about what part of the book are we (please don't mention the book, just say "around Half of first book"). Chapter 8 was sick, god i love Sirio Forel, maybe cz i'm latin and I have curly hair as him and HES A NINJAHhh! It's Syrio but yeah he's a hero Not today Syrio Hope to see him reappear I'm pretty sure he's dead, alot of people died that day and I don't think they would have spared the water dancer, though if he is still alive that would definitely be a story...beating people with wooden sticks is epic I don't see why he wouldn't be alive. Everyone else who has died they've shown get killed. Show nested quote +On June 08 2011 00:51 Raekhor wrote:On June 07 2011 23:08 Sm3agol wrote:On June 07 2011 23:00 tertos wrote:On June 07 2011 20:49 Sm3agol wrote:
Considering the author of the books directed it, and deliberately left it open-ended.......I think he's alive. Maybe. I think you might be right, after he was unarmored, unarmed, relatively immobile (cause he had to stall while Arya was getting away) vs 1 Kingsguard fully armored and 3 City guards, again fully armored who suffered serious damage by being hit in the helmet with a wooden sword. That's like saying a zerling could kill one Tank sieged and 3 goliaths with 1 hp each because he has legs and glands researched. Syrio. I can't check right now but couldn't you hear a metal sword hit the floor when arya left the room? I heard that but couldn't tell where it was coming from, since there was fighting in the other direction as well.
I think after Arya had gotten away safely Syrio could have possibly tried to escape. I doubt anyone would doubt the honor/courage of someone who decided to run from a fully armored knight armed with a steel sword. Not to mention the Lannister men at arms were coming to and would rejoin the fight and Syrio's wooden sword was cut in half.
On the other hand he may have thought that he should try and delay them for as long as possible to ensure that Arya would get away safely.
Given these facts it's likely that he would have stayed and fought given his "no running" stance and the necessity to ensure Arya's escape. Let's assume he did fight though.
In that case he was either killed or subdued and taken captive or he somehow disabled the Kingsguard knight without killing him and then escaped. If he was subdued I feel like he would have been killed on the spot for the damage he inflicted on the Lannister men at arms but it's possible he could have been thrown in the dungeons for torture/information (unsure if he had any but I suppose it's possible).
Given that Meryn Trant appears later in the episode and doesn't seem hurt it would imply that he killed Syrio or captured him. But it's possible that Syrio knocked him out with the hilt of his wooden sword or something like that and then escaped. This wouldn't leave a visible mark on Meryn if he was wearing his helmet (like he was in the throne room scene).
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half the point of this thread is idle speculation... we don't want to KNOW what happens
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