EPT[TV] HBO Game of Thrones - Page 166
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
On May 22 2011 17:30 Manit0u wrote: Episode 5 was a big letdown for me. Just when I started to get excited and all they started introducing really badly choreographed fights... I was really expecting a bit more from HBO and the actors on this one, seeing what HBO did with Rome for example. + Show Spoiler [ep5] + Jamie vs Ned was complete bullshit... I mean, supposedly the most skilled swordsman in the seven kingdoms and a veteran of no less than 2 wars duking it out and it looks like some kindergarten kids swinging at each other... They could do one of the two things: 1. Hire someone who knows this stuff and make him teach the actors and prepare the choreography (like the most basic thing and the most common mistake in the movies: swing at the man, not at the sword). 2. Direct the show as a play in the theater (it got some potential when Baelish nearly broke the fourth wall once) so no one can complain about bad CG, fight scenes etc. It worked really well for Dune and The Children of Dune miniseries. Of course, there are more blatant errors in this show. Apart from swords being too shiny and fake-looking you have Jon having a 2 week beard in one scene and being clean-shaven in the next scene, which is supposedly taking place the same day, and then having his beard back again... They surely dropped the ball a couple of times. And on a sidenote, I was wondering how the show is received by people who haven't read the books... Except the obvious sex/incest complains (which I believe are valid, you can make your show look real and dirty without cramming tits and sex scenes into 1/3rd of every episode). I mean, the show is nice for me, because I've read 4 books of the series and I know the background and stories of the characters involved (not counting knowing what's going to happen in the future). If I haven't read the books I believe I'd be a bit lost, there's quite a few names, houses, places and pieces of history that are mentioned very scarecely, if at all, in the show and are quite vital to some of the plot lines which might confuse people. Hire someone who knows his stuff? The guy they got to do the action scenes has massive experience in the business. And movies and series will always have swordfights look exciting, mainly because a real sword fight takes about 2 seconds and ends with one of the two, if not both, screaming in pain before being stabbed to death. A real swordfight is neither exciting to look at nor something people would actually like to watch. As for new people watching the show, i think it's the arrogance of us book readers that's the problem. For some reason we consider all of the TV-watchers retarded. I got 4 friends to watch the show and noone of them have ever read any of the books and they are keeping track of it all just perfectly. | ||
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Ikonn
Netherlands1958 Posts
On May 22 2011 17:30 Manit0u wrote: Episode 5 was a big letdown for me. Just when I started to get excited and all they started introducing really badly choreographed fights... I was really expecting a bit more from HBO and the actors on this one, seeing what HBO did with Rome for example. + Show Spoiler [ep5] + Jamie vs Ned was complete bullshit... I mean, supposedly the most skilled swordsman in the seven kingdoms and a veteran of no less than 2 wars duking it out and it looks like some kindergarten kids swinging at each other... They could do one of the two things: 1. Hire someone who knows this stuff and make him teach the actors and prepare the choreography (like the most basic thing and the most common mistake in the movies: swing at the man, not at the sword). 2. Direct the show as a play in the theater (it got some potential when Baelish nearly broke the fourth wall once) so no one can complain about bad CG, fight scenes etc. It worked really well for Dune and The Children of Dune miniseries. I think swordfights as in Game of Thrones are far more realistic than those in, say, Spartacus. These are big swords and people are trying to kill, not to entertain | ||
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RA
Latvia791 Posts
People need to let go and simply enjoy. HBO has done an amazing job. | ||
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nonsequitur
384 Posts
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Bagi
Germany6799 Posts
On May 23 2011 00:40 nonsequitur wrote: Haha, I was rewatching Batman Begins and thought this kid looked familiar... Kid is doing an amazing job as Joffrey, can't wait for more. + Show Spoiler [ Book 1] + The scene where he gets Ned executed should be an eye-opener for many people... | ||
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BrodiaQ
United States892 Posts
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Hot_Bid
Braavos36402 Posts
On May 22 2011 17:44 Ikonn wrote: I think swordfights as in Game of Thrones are far more realistic than those in, say, Spartacus. These are big swords and people are trying to kill, not to entertain yeah exactly, i dont watch GOT for some jet li kung fu crap, realistic swordfighting is not pretty its just people hacking at each other | ||
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zerglingsfolife
United States1694 Posts
I just want to see them fly mommy. | ||
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Manit0u
Poland17856 Posts
On May 23 2011 04:15 Hot_Bid wrote: yeah exactly, i dont watch GOT for some jet li kung fu crap, realistic swordfighting is not pretty its just people hacking at each other Well, that's just my beef with it. It's neither realistic nor properly done, making it just bad. They should opt to either make it realistic (ie: short, simple, brutal) or entertaining (ie: a lot of useless swinging, dodging, slow-mo bullshit) and so far they fail at both. And just so you know what I'm aiming at here: Realistic version. Valhalla Rising Entertaining Version. Troy | ||
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SixGun
United States40 Posts
But now I'm reading the first book and I think it's a pretty good book-to-media conversion, if not the best I've seen (Godfather may still take that crown) | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
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Maginor
Norway505 Posts
On May 23 2011 06:03 1Eris1 wrote: So pumped for tonights episode, if I'm correct we should finally see + Show Spoiler + [Major book 1 spoiler yo] Cersei admitting Jaime is the father of her kids That is episode 7. Which will be available tonight yes, but it is not "tonight's episode". | ||
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Archvil3
Denmark989 Posts
The first thing I noticed was that with no background information, never having read the book and not even briefly been told what the show is about, you really really gotta pay attention to names and how they connect, cause they are being very very brief about introductions. If you prefer easy going action movies you are not only going to have a hard time understanding what the hell is going on, you are also going to be dissapointed by the slow paced action. Luckily I love a well told story and raw realism so to me the series so far is spot on. | ||
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kingJY
United States39 Posts
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Nawyria
Netherlands140 Posts
On May 23 2011 05:53 Manit0u wrote: Well, that's just my beef with it. It's neither realistic nor properly done, making it just bad. They should opt to either make it realistic (ie: short, simple, brutal) or entertaining (ie: a lot of useless swinging, dodging, slow-mo bullshit) and so far they fail at both. I personally think the quality of the fights varies with each scene. In EP 5: + Show Spoiler + The fight between Sandor and Gregor Clegane at the tournament was rather reasonable, as was the fight between Cathelyn's entourage and the Wildlings on the way to the Eyrie (especially the somewhat ruffled-looking man that makes the comment about 'impregnating' the castle). On the other hand, Coster-Waldau's performance in the fight scene outside Littlefinger's brothel really failed to impress. His swings seemed stale to me, as if he were going through a routine rather than being busy actual fighting, and his guards (the stances, not the soldiers) are typical of Western television, 'cool'-looking yet impractical. His acting is great, but his swordsmanship needs some work. but overall, the fights tip somewhat to the realistic side, which is good. | ||
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ATeddyBear
Canada2843 Posts
On May 23 2011 05:53 Manit0u wrote: Entertaining Version. Troy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ygRholyh5g This is probably my favourite 1on1 fight scene in mainstream Hollywood movies ever. | ||
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Poyo
Canada790 Posts
Its simply brilliant... Edit: Oh and yeah the fight scene from Troy is indeed my favourite to date. | ||
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meiyo
Norway81 Posts
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