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All book discussion in this thread is now allowed.
Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
June 10 2014 12:03 GMT
#24941
Can the book readers please get the fuck out of this thread and discuss their love/hate for Stannis in the other one, please?
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16121 Posts
June 10 2014 12:05 GMT
#24942
On June 10 2014 20:55 sc2holar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 20:42 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 10 2014 20:29 sc2holar wrote:
On June 10 2014 20:26 Laurens wrote:
On June 10 2014 20:16 sc2holar wrote:
On June 10 2014 20:10 Vindicare605 wrote:
On June 10 2014 19:59 sc2holar wrote:
On June 10 2014 19:32 Redox wrote:
On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots)

Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels.

Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him.

Everyone in kings landing knew that Stannis burns his enemies alive, as offerings to the red god. Thats right, the RIGHTFULL KING, STANNIS THE MANNIS that book readers for some god knows reason like to circlejerk over despite him being only a small step over the Mad King (another guy who liked to burn people he didnt like)


I would love to argue with you about this, but I will resist.

You mean you were about to lay down the usual Bullshit about being brainwashed by a red priestess somehow justifies burning loyal bannermen and relatives alive? as if a good, MANLY king would ever allow himself to be brainwashed by a foreign preacher who uses cheap tricks to show visions in fire, right?


idk man, if you see what that priestess is capable of doing, would you keep her as a friend or piss her off?

If i was a righteous man/king, like some people like to paint stannis out to be, i would do whatever is right and honorable, no matter what (to quote jon snow)


Stannis is not Ned Stark. Stannis is a man with a very strong sense of justice, Ned was a man who believed in honor over everything else.

Stannis can see the benefits of a "means to an end" approach. Ned couldn't.

Pretty much every character in the series except for Ned Stark can do that. It doesnt justify Stannis horrific deeds.


I wasn't attempting to justify the banner men barbecue. I was just pointing out why your "righteous man" argument doesn't apply.
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Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
June 10 2014 12:13 GMT
#24943
On June 10 2014 21:03 Conti wrote:
Can the book readers please get the fuck out of this thread and discuss their love/hate for Stannis in the other one, please?

Skol
solidbebe
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4921 Posts
June 10 2014 12:50 GMT
#24944
On June 10 2014 21:03 Conti wrote:
Can the book readers please get the fuck out of this thread and discuss their love/hate for Stannis in the other one, please?

That's the 2nd time in a week I've seen someone sig a quote from this GD and I have never witnessed a sig quote happen in my TL history ever before. -Najda
Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 12:59:33
June 10 2014 12:59 GMT
#24945
Lol all the people in the show thread are angry at us for talking about Stannis. I can't wait to see their posts when he dies at the wall next episode due to Gilly being a double agent and assassinating him.

EDIT: Oops, wrong thread!

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I HAVE 5 TOAST POINTS
jtype
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
England2167 Posts
June 10 2014 13:04 GMT
#24946
If that wasn't a joke spoiler, I wouldn't even be mad, I'd just be impressed.
Zealously
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
East Gorteau22261 Posts
June 10 2014 13:05 GMT
#24947
Drop the book vs. show discussion, please.
AdministratorBreak the chains
Grovbolle
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark3813 Posts
June 10 2014 13:06 GMT
#24948
On June 10 2014 17:06 TigerKarl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2014 08:59 Lord Tolkien wrote:


In memory of the giants who died in the production of last night's episode.

at least have the decency to post the good version of that song



You mean this one?
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zatic
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Zurich15365 Posts
June 10 2014 13:22 GMT
#24949
On June 10 2014 22:05 Zealously wrote:
Drop the book vs. show discussion, please.

Seriously. I kicked out a few people who don't seem to get this concept.
ModeratorI know Teamliquid is known as a massive building
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
June 10 2014 13:37 GMT
#24950
On June 09 2014 15:33 Integra wrote:
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On June 09 2014 14:56 ShadeR wrote:
So did Tormund fuck a bear or not?? I gots ta know!

This is what I would like to know as well!

Well they did say they were gonna chain him up and interrogate him.
First question will hopefully be. Have you ever had sexual relations with a bear? Followed by are there more wildlings south of the wall?
Shock710
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia6097 Posts
June 10 2014 13:45 GMT
#24951
hmm so jon was gonna leave without hearing the interrogation from tormund?
dAPhREAk gives Shock a * | [23:55] <Shock710> that was out of context -_- [16:26] <@motbob> Good question, Shock!
[Agony]x90
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States853 Posts
June 10 2014 16:37 GMT
#24952
On June 10 2014 22:45 Shock710 wrote:
hmm so jon was gonna leave without hearing the interrogation from tormund?


I would imagine it's an issue with time. He has less than 24 hours to go out there and do what he needs/wants to. Likely just a few hours, as they could probably launch another assault within half a day.
JF dodger since 2009
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 16:43:22
June 10 2014 16:43 GMT
#24953
If they just seal the tunnel, is there any possible way the wildlings could actually break the wall? I really don't see how. It's not like 100k can scale the wall and be in shape to fight, let alone resistance at the top. Do you even know how tired you'd be after scaling that wall, let alone trying to do it in armor etc. Those that actually made it would be easy pickens for crow soldiers at the top.
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Conti
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany2516 Posts
June 10 2014 16:52 GMT
#24954
Hmm. 100k (most likely dead) people could probably form a mountain high enough to easily climb the wall.

Someone totally should do the math on that one.
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 17:03:18
June 10 2014 17:00 GMT
#24955
On June 11 2014 01:43 crms wrote:
If they just seal the tunnel, is there any possible way the wildlings could actually break the wall? I really don't see how. It's not like 100k can scale the wall and be in shape to fight, let alone resistance at the top. Do you even know how tired you'd be after scaling that wall, let alone trying to do it in armor etc. Those that actually made it would be easy pickens for crow soldiers at the top.

They could scale the wall at 300 different places along the Wall (it is 300 miles long) with 20 man at each place. Would only cost them 6k of their 100k. Or they could simply do more sneak attacks like the one with Thormund and the Thenns that they just did and that barely failed. Another attack of the same magnitude would probably be the end for the Watch.

Although one should probably not think too hard about this. The wall does not make much sense in the first place. :D
Off-season = best season
nojok
Profile Joined May 2011
France15846 Posts
June 10 2014 17:15 GMT
#24956
This episode was the worst of the whole series. I don't give a shit about people shooting arrows or randomly smashing their big weapons into the others, in the end we can sum it up with two sentences : "X,Y and Z died when savageons attacked the wall Jon Snow is going for rambo mission". I was really expecting something good as it's usually the case with last episodes from a season.
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - Kuroky - Flap Flap Wings!
The_Red_Viper
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
19533 Posts
June 10 2014 17:16 GMT
#24957
On June 11 2014 02:15 nojok wrote:
This episode was the worst of the whole series. I don't give a shit about people shooting arrows or randomly smashing their big weapons into the others, in the end we can sum it up with two sentences : "X,Y and Z died when savageons attacked the wall Jon Snow is going for rambo mission". I was really expecting something good as it's usually the case with last episodes from a season.

There is another episode, this was the 9th, not the 10th
IU | Sohyang || There is no God and we are his prophets | For if ‘Thou mayest’—it is also true that ‘Thou mayest not.” | Ignorance is the parent of fear |
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 17:19:50
June 10 2014 17:17 GMT
#24958
On June 11 2014 02:00 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 01:43 crms wrote:
If they just seal the tunnel, is there any possible way the wildlings could actually break the wall? I really don't see how. It's not like 100k can scale the wall and be in shape to fight, let alone resistance at the top. Do you even know how tired you'd be after scaling that wall, let alone trying to do it in armor etc. Those that actually made it would be easy pickens for crow soldiers at the top.

They could scale the wall at 300 different places along the Wall (it is 300 miles long) with 20 man at each place. Would only cost them 6k of their 100k. Or they could simply do more sneak attacks like the one with Thormund and the Thenns that they just did and that barely failed. Another attack of the same magnitude would probably be the end for the Watch.

Although one should probably not think too hard about this. The wall does not make much sense in the first place. :D

sorry, i only meant if they came at the wall head-on. More sneak attacks/flanks and yes, they'd be done for. I don't think scaling the wall is ever going to work, they have more than enough nights watch to patrol the tops of the wall and chop people down that get near the top, not to mention there is noway you could be ready for h2h combat on the wall after scaling the damn thing, you'd also likely be unarmoured because you couldn't even climb the thing with any meaningful weight attached to you.

I don't know, I guess it's hard to conceptualize 100k people slamming into the wall and trying to climb, bust the tunnel etc. Of course it's going to be grossly inefficient for the wildlings, but I think the Watch needed a 1000:1 kill ratio to wipe out the army and I'm not sure the wall advantage would be 1000:1... hmm!
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23957 Posts
June 10 2014 17:17 GMT
#24959
On June 11 2014 01:52 Conti wrote:
Hmm. 100k (most likely dead) people could probably form a mountain high enough to easily climb the wall.

Someone totally should do the math on that one.


I suppose you'll need an engineer to confirm it's stability, but if they average about 9" thick than that would be more than enough. Of course the ones on the bottom would be significantly smaller though and you would need to make a ramp shape with the bodies of course.

"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
June 10 2014 17:26 GMT
#24960
On June 11 2014 02:15 nojok wrote:
This episode was the worst of the whole series. I don't give a shit about people shooting arrows or randomly smashing their big weapons into the others, in the end we can sum it up with two sentences : "X,Y and Z died when savageons attacked the wall Jon Snow is going for rambo mission". I was really expecting something good as it's usually the case with last episodes from a season.

Because it was not your cup of tea it doesnt mean it was bad though. I think one can objectively say that it was well done, reviewers will probably say the same.

That you have different kind of episodes with different directors etc is one of the strengths of a show like this. It makes for variety. Although this episode still had plenty of dialogue and classic drama. That it happens in the middle of a battle doesnt mean it does not exist.
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