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urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
June 10 2014 20:13 GMT
#24981
Poll: Episode 9 - The Watchers on the Wall

★★★★★ (40)
 
61%

★★★★ (9)
 
14%

★★★ (8)
 
12%

★★ (4)
 
6%

★ (5)
 
8%

66 total votes

Your vote: Episode 9 - The Watchers on the Wall

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★

Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
June 10 2014 20:13 GMT
#24982
All my friends love this show, I gave it a chance watched Season 1 episode 1 and I am hooked !! The only problem is I dont really know much of the people, there are so many characters its hard to keep track and with weird names. Does anyone know of a guide or something to get to know the houses etc
我是冠军
Laurens
Profile Joined September 2010
Belgium4557 Posts
June 10 2014 20:14 GMT
#24983
On June 11 2014 05:05 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 04:58 Laurens wrote:
On June 11 2014 04:53 Mensol wrote:
Jon Snow is such a terrible swordsman/fighter...

One of the worst I'd say.


He is a handsome guy though, he killed Ygritte with his smile.


???

???

He lost against everyone he fought.

He is nowhere close to Barristan, Jorah, Bronn, Mountain etc.


Dude he's like 18, give him some years?
And why is Jorah even in that list? What has he done?

Also if one person dies and the other survives I would call the survivor the winner but maybe that's just me.
KOFgokuon
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States14912 Posts
June 10 2014 20:15 GMT
#24984
Tough to give you any guides that won't have spoilers for the show
CoFran
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada342 Posts
June 10 2014 20:20 GMT
#24985
season 1 family tree http://distractionsoflola.tumblr.com/image/4736562133
Fildun
Profile Joined December 2012
Netherlands4123 Posts
June 10 2014 20:20 GMT
#24986
Guys, why couldn't the giants just have lifted the door of another castle? there are like 15 other castles through which they could enter the North and they have giants and mammoths and all that shit so it wouldn't be that hard I guess.

It's like, there is only one place with enemies! Lets go there! Logic!
Hier
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
2391 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-10 20:23:54
June 10 2014 20:22 GMT
#24987
Don't worry if you're confused after episode 1. Things will be repeated several times throughout the show.

On June 11 2014 05:20 Fildun wrote:
Guys, why couldn't the giants just have lifted the door of another castle? there are like 15 other castles through which they could enter the North and they have giants and mammoths and all that shit so it wouldn't be that hard I guess.

It's like, there is only one place with enemies! Lets go there! Logic!

Maybe the inactive castles actually sealed their entrances.
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Adrian_mx
Profile Joined April 2010
Mexico1880 Posts
June 10 2014 20:22 GMT
#24988
On June 11 2014 05:20 CoFran wrote:
season 1 family tree http://distractionsoflola.tumblr.com/image/4736562133

Thank god! Thats all I needed woo!
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Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
June 10 2014 20:23 GMT
#24989
On June 11 2014 05:20 Fildun wrote:
Guys, why couldn't the giants just have lifted the door of another castle? there are like 15 other castles through which they could enter the North and they have giants and mammoths and all that shit so it wouldn't be that hard I guess.

It's like, there is only one place with enemies! Lets go there! Logic!

I think most other castles dont have doors? But the other points still stand ofc.
Tur
Profile Joined November 2010
Brazil263 Posts
June 10 2014 20:26 GMT
#24990
On June 11 2014 05:20 Fildun wrote:
Guys, why couldn't the giants just have lifted the door of another castle? there are like 15 other castles through which they could enter the North and they have giants and mammoths and all that shit so it wouldn't be that hard I guess.

It's like, there is only one place with enemies! Lets go there! Logic!


The castles that are not in use are supposed to be sealed (the door was covered in ice and became part of the Wall). Jon even asked to do same with Castle Black.
Geo.Rion
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
7377 Posts
June 10 2014 21:00 GMT
#24991
On June 11 2014 05:20 Fildun wrote:
Guys, why couldn't the giants just have lifted the door of another castle? there are like 15 other castles through which they could enter the North and they have giants and mammoths and all that shit so it wouldn't be that hard I guess.

It's like, there is only one place with enemies! Lets go there! Logic!

well 2 things
1. They need a passway, so let' s assume only Castle black has active tunnels through the Wall, as others said, they need to break that.
2. Mance's plan was to hit it from both sides, and it almost worked, the fighters were busy atop of the wall. If Jon's squad doesnt come to help, it looked like the wildlins could actually take it. But then Jon whipped out some pro fighting skills and Sam let loose Ghost
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JonnyBNoHo
Profile Joined July 2011
United States6277 Posts
June 10 2014 21:30 GMT
#24992
On June 11 2014 05:20 Fildun wrote:
Guys, why couldn't the giants just have lifted the door of another castle? there are like 15 other castles through which they could enter the North and they have giants and mammoths and all that shit so it wouldn't be that hard I guess.

It's like, there is only one place with enemies! Lets go there! Logic!

They didn't just want to get to the other side of the wall for shits and giggles. They know the White Walkers are real, and so they'll probably want to capture the wall intact and man it themselves as a defense. That means capturing Castle Black, the Shadow Tower and Eastwatch-by-the-Sea. It also means completely dislodging the Night's Watch from the Wall. In other words, they have to go the the enemy at some point.

Also, as others have already said, the abandoned castle doors have been sealed.

That said, is attacking Castle Black directly the easiest way across? No, but Mance's plan was to first place a team on the other side of the wall so that the gate could be raised from either side. And it almost worked! And only a small fraction of his army was lost in the effort.
Reason
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
June 10 2014 21:54 GMT
#24993
On June 11 2014 05:13 urboss wrote:
Poll: Episode 9 - The Watchers on the Wall

★★★★★ (40)
 
61%

★★★★ (9)
 
14%

★★★ (8)
 
12%

★★ (4)
 
6%

★ (5)
 
8%

66 total votes

Your vote: Episode 9 - The Watchers on the Wall

(Vote): ★★★★★
(Vote): ★★★★
(Vote): ★★★
(Vote): ★★
(Vote): ★


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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 00:10:43
June 11 2014 00:10 GMT
#24994
For those not aware avoid twitch chats.

* Should probably avoid them in general anyway
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
June 11 2014 00:16 GMT
#24995
On June 11 2014 05:20 Fildun wrote:
Guys, why couldn't the giants just have lifted the door of another castle? there are like 15 other castles through which they could enter the North and they have giants and mammoths and all that shit so it wouldn't be that hard I guess.

It's like, there is only one place with enemies! Lets go there! Logic!

Mance horde doesn't just include warriors, don't forget that.
It includes whole tribes, including old, weak, sickly and young people. Not everyone can just scale the wall.

As was mentioned already, it is very likely that the abandoned castles have completely sealed tunnels or no tunnels at all.
Think about it: Why do you need to have 10+ tunnels through the wall if you only occasionally send a handful of rangers north?
At this point I am considering only Castle Black even has a tunnel. Because at least 1 castle needs to have a tunnel.

It's quite ironic that you complain about the logic of the show because the wildlings don't abuse the huge obvious weakspots of open tunnels at abandoned castles that the night's watch must have because you didn't think this one through.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 00:27:27
June 11 2014 00:27 GMT
#24996
On June 11 2014 09:16 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 11 2014 05:20 Fildun wrote:
Guys, why couldn't the giants just have lifted the door of another castle? there are like 15 other castles through which they could enter the North and they have giants and mammoths and all that shit so it wouldn't be that hard I guess.

It's like, there is only one place with enemies! Lets go there! Logic!

Mance horde doesn't just include warriors, don't forget that.
It includes whole tribes, including old, weak, sickly and young people. Not everyone can just scale the wall.

As was mentioned already, it is very likely that the abandoned castles have completely sealed tunnels or no tunnels at all.
Think about it: Why do you need to have 10+ tunnels through the wall if you only occasionally send a handful of rangers north?
At this point I am considering only Castle Black even has a tunnel. Because at least 1 castle needs to have a tunnel.

It's quite ironic that you complain about the logic of the show because the wildlings don't abuse the huge obvious weakspots of open tunnels at abandoned castles that the night's watch must have because you didn't think this one through.


Yeah, pretty sure GRRM / Nights watch would have considered this gaping loophole long before you all. Considering the far higher stakes for both
Useless wet fish.
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
June 11 2014 00:29 GMT
#24997
the only part that was a bit stupid is that 3 giants + a mammoth + random foot soldiers were trying to tear down the wall rather unsuccessful and then 1 giant gets mad and deadlifts the gate by himself. Ok...

Why didn't all the giants just lift the door and let a shit load of people run through? If 1 giant can hold the wall up by himself, imagine how long 3 giants could hold the wall, probably even long enough to setup something to hold the wall up indefinitely.

I don't know, that part was just really stupid to me.
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Steveling
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Greece10806 Posts
June 11 2014 00:29 GMT
#24998
That giant could rly lift though.
My dick has shrunk to the point where it looks like I have 3 balls.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
June 11 2014 00:32 GMT
#24999
On June 11 2014 09:29 crms wrote:
the only part that was a bit stupid is that 3 giants + a mammoth + random foot soldiers were trying to tear down the wall rather unsuccessful and then 1 giant gets mad and deadlifts the gate by himself. Ok...

Why didn't all the giants just lift the door and let a shit load of people run through? If 1 giant can hold the wall up by himself, imagine how long 3 giants could hold the wall, probably even long enough to setup something to hold the wall up indefinitely.

I don't know, that part was just really stupid to me.


I don't think they even knew if they could lift the door. I doubt they were allowed to head up to the gate and try lifting it ahead of time. They had no clue how strong the door was dude. Also all the Nights Watch would need is more explosive barrels and boom, another dead giant while he's trying to lift the door.
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Assault_1
Profile Joined April 2009
Canada1950 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-06-11 01:31:27
June 11 2014 01:30 GMT
#25000
On June 11 2014 09:10 iamperfection wrote:
For those not aware avoid twitch chats.

* Should probably avoid them in general anyway

like when watching a game of thrones stream? or any stream like call of duty?

edit: hey im the 25000'th post :D
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