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White Walker:
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Can sleep for thousands of years. Unaffected by cold weather. Resurrects corpses as wights by touching them(animals, humans, probably giants too). Has magical powers. Supposedly hard or impossible to kill.
Dies instantly when pierced with dragon glass(explodes into dust).
Wight:
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Looks like a corpse. Glowing blue eyes. Doesn't rot(doesn't smell like a rotting corpse). Can't be killed by hacking or slashing(can still lose bodyparts). Must be destroyed by fire.
Extra flammable.
Now that we solved that confusion, I wonder why we didn't see any giant wights yet. I guess the producers just didn't think of doing that.
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On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots)
Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels. 
Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him.
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heh, I saw that a few days ago xD
He'll be back! They always come back!
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On June 10 2014 19:32 Redox wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots) Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels. Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him.
Everyone in kings landing knew that Stannis burns his enemies alive, as offerings to the red god. Thats right, the RIGHTFULL KING, STANNIS THE MANNIS that book readers for some god knows reason like to circlejerk over despite him being only a small step over the Mad King (another guy who liked to burn people he didnt like)
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Kind of a boring episode.
RIP Ygritte though.
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RIP Pyp and Grenn. The Wall is gonna be super boring without the most relatable characters. Sam is OK but Jon Snow is a boring mary sue character.
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On June 10 2014 19:59 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 19:32 Redox wrote:On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots) Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels. Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him. Everyone in kings landing knew that Stannis burns his enemies alive, as offerings to the red god. Thats right, the RIGHTFULL KING, STANNIS THE MANNIS that book readers for some god knows reason like to circlejerk over despite him being only a small step over the Mad King (another guy who liked to burn people he didnt like)
I would love to argue with you about this, but I will resist.
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On June 10 2014 20:10 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 19:59 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 19:32 Redox wrote:On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots) Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels. Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him. Everyone in kings landing knew that Stannis burns his enemies alive, as offerings to the red god. Thats right, the RIGHTFULL KING, STANNIS THE MANNIS that book readers for some god knows reason like to circlejerk over despite him being only a small step over the Mad King (another guy who liked to burn people he didnt like) I would love to argue with you about this, but I will resist.
You mean you were about to lay down the usual Bullshit about being brainwashed by a red priestess somehow justifies burning loyal bannermen and relatives alive? as if a good, MANLY king would ever allow himself to be brainwashed by a foreign preacher who uses cheap tricks to show visions in fire, right?
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On June 10 2014 19:59 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 19:32 Redox wrote:On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots) Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels. Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him. Everyone in kings landing knew that Stannis burns his enemies alive, as offerings to the red god. Thats right, the RIGHTFULL KING, STANNIS THE MANNIS that book readers for some god knows reason like to circlejerk over despite him being only a small step over the Mad King (another guy who liked to burn people he didnt like)
I can tell you the reason: Book Stannis is waaaayyyy cooler than Show Stannis.
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Not the right thread for that discussion. In the show, Stannis is sort of a fanatic.. He even gave a speech to Davos when he was imprisoned, telling him he sees no reason to not believe in Melisandre's god. Plus he burned his cousin or something because he was a heretic. His words.
He may be different in the books, but in this thread it makes no difference.
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On June 10 2014 20:17 Monsen wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 19:59 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 19:32 Redox wrote:On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots) Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels. Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him. Everyone in kings landing knew that Stannis burns his enemies alive, as offerings to the red god. Thats right, the RIGHTFULL KING, STANNIS THE MANNIS that book readers for some god knows reason like to circlejerk over despite him being only a small step over the Mad King (another guy who liked to burn people he didnt like) I can tell you the reason: Book Stannis is waaaayyyy cooler than Show Stannis.
I coudlnt dispute that, but im fed up with book readers defending Show-Stannis, a guy with 0 redeeming qualities so far. He is a bore that drags down the series...
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On June 10 2014 20:16 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 20:10 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 10 2014 19:59 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 19:32 Redox wrote:On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots) Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels. Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him. Everyone in kings landing knew that Stannis burns his enemies alive, as offerings to the red god. Thats right, the RIGHTFULL KING, STANNIS THE MANNIS that book readers for some god knows reason like to circlejerk over despite him being only a small step over the Mad King (another guy who liked to burn people he didnt like) I would love to argue with you about this, but I will resist. You mean you were about to lay down the usual Bullshit about being brainwashed by a red priestess somehow justifies burning loyal bannermen and relatives alive? as if a good, MANLY king would ever allow himself to be brainwashed by a foreign preacher who uses cheap tricks to show visions in fire, right?
Actually I wasn't going to say any of that, but it was nice of you to assume such.
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On June 10 2014 20:16 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 20:10 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 10 2014 19:59 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 19:32 Redox wrote:On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots) Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels. Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him. Everyone in kings landing knew that Stannis burns his enemies alive, as offerings to the red god. Thats right, the RIGHTFULL KING, STANNIS THE MANNIS that book readers for some god knows reason like to circlejerk over despite him being only a small step over the Mad King (another guy who liked to burn people he didnt like) I would love to argue with you about this, but I will resist. You mean you were about to lay down the usual Bullshit about being brainwashed by a red priestess somehow justifies burning loyal bannermen and relatives alive? as if a good, MANLY king would ever allow himself to be brainwashed by a foreign preacher who uses cheap tricks to show visions in fire, right?
idk man, if you see what that priestess is capable of doing, would you keep her as a friend or piss her off?
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On June 10 2014 20:25 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 20:16 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 20:10 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 10 2014 19:59 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 19:32 Redox wrote:On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots) Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels. Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him. Everyone in kings landing knew that Stannis burns his enemies alive, as offerings to the red god. Thats right, the RIGHTFULL KING, STANNIS THE MANNIS that book readers for some god knows reason like to circlejerk over despite him being only a small step over the Mad King (another guy who liked to burn people he didnt like) I would love to argue with you about this, but I will resist. You mean you were about to lay down the usual Bullshit about being brainwashed by a red priestess somehow justifies burning loyal bannermen and relatives alive? as if a good, MANLY king would ever allow himself to be brainwashed by a foreign preacher who uses cheap tricks to show visions in fire, right? Actually I wasn't going to say any of that, but it was nice of you to assume such.
Then how do you justify those actions? im very curious... and we are talking about show stannis here.
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On June 10 2014 20:26 Laurens wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 20:16 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 20:10 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 10 2014 19:59 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 19:32 Redox wrote:On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots) Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels. Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him. Everyone in kings landing knew that Stannis burns his enemies alive, as offerings to the red god. Thats right, the RIGHTFULL KING, STANNIS THE MANNIS that book readers for some god knows reason like to circlejerk over despite him being only a small step over the Mad King (another guy who liked to burn people he didnt like) I would love to argue with you about this, but I will resist. You mean you were about to lay down the usual Bullshit about being brainwashed by a red priestess somehow justifies burning loyal bannermen and relatives alive? as if a good, MANLY king would ever allow himself to be brainwashed by a foreign preacher who uses cheap tricks to show visions in fire, right? idk man, if you see what that priestess is capable of doing, would you keep her as a friend or piss her off?
If i was a righteous man/king, like some people like to paint stannis out to be, i would do whatever is right and honorable, no matter what (to quote jon snow)
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Well, that gives rise to some conflicts doesn't it?
What if you believe the 'right and honorable thing to do' can only be achieved by using the red priestess and her magic, yet using said priestess is considered not honorable? How can you resolve this?
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On June 10 2014 20:29 sc2holar wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 20:26 Laurens wrote:On June 10 2014 20:16 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 20:10 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 10 2014 19:59 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 19:32 Redox wrote:On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots) Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels. Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him. Everyone in kings landing knew that Stannis burns his enemies alive, as offerings to the red god. Thats right, the RIGHTFULL KING, STANNIS THE MANNIS that book readers for some god knows reason like to circlejerk over despite him being only a small step over the Mad King (another guy who liked to burn people he didnt like) I would love to argue with you about this, but I will resist. You mean you were about to lay down the usual Bullshit about being brainwashed by a red priestess somehow justifies burning loyal bannermen and relatives alive? as if a good, MANLY king would ever allow himself to be brainwashed by a foreign preacher who uses cheap tricks to show visions in fire, right? idk man, if you see what that priestess is capable of doing, would you keep her as a friend or piss her off? If i was a righteous man/king, like some people like to paint stannis out to be, i would do whatever is right and honorable, no matter what (to quote jon snow)
Stannis is not Ned Stark. Stannis is a man with a very strong sense of justice, Ned was a man who believed in honor over everything else.
Stannis can see the benefits of a "means to an end" approach. Ned couldn't.
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On June 10 2014 20:42 Vindicare605 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2014 20:29 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 20:26 Laurens wrote:On June 10 2014 20:16 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 20:10 Vindicare605 wrote:On June 10 2014 19:59 sc2holar wrote:On June 10 2014 19:32 Redox wrote:On June 10 2014 19:27 sc2holar wrote:
(That rare moment where you actually sympatize with bitch Cersei and realize that she is just human and a scared mother holding her son in her arms awaiting for impending doom, preparing to pour poison down his throat to give him a mercykill to prevent him from being burned alive by mad-king stannis and his crazy religious zealots) Or you realize she is Magda Goebbels. Also it is highly doubtful she believed her son would be killed by Stannis. You can se that from the way she talks about him in the Blackwater episode. She just seems to regret that she cant seduce him. Everyone in kings landing knew that Stannis burns his enemies alive, as offerings to the red god. Thats right, the RIGHTFULL KING, STANNIS THE MANNIS that book readers for some god knows reason like to circlejerk over despite him being only a small step over the Mad King (another guy who liked to burn people he didnt like) I would love to argue with you about this, but I will resist. You mean you were about to lay down the usual Bullshit about being brainwashed by a red priestess somehow justifies burning loyal bannermen and relatives alive? as if a good, MANLY king would ever allow himself to be brainwashed by a foreign preacher who uses cheap tricks to show visions in fire, right? idk man, if you see what that priestess is capable of doing, would you keep her as a friend or piss her off? If i was a righteous man/king, like some people like to paint stannis out to be, i would do whatever is right and honorable, no matter what (to quote jon snow) Stannis is not Ned Stark. Stannis is a man with a very strong sense of justice, Ned was a man who believed in honor over everything else. Stannis can see the benefits of a "means to an end" approach. Ned couldn't.
Pretty much every character in the series except for Ned Stark can do that. It doesnt justify Stannis horrific deeds.
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Can you give a quick overview of his horrific deeds?
Genuine question, it's been a while since I saw season 2.
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